Have a Ducky Weekend

29 09 2007

Friends, Romans, Countrymen…

Wait, that is someone else’s speech!

In the interest of preserving our energies to continue to bring the truth out about Kimkins to the world, we are taking a weekend break.

To relax, unwind and enjoy time with our families.

We suggest those following the story do the same. All Kimmer/Kimkins all the time is simply not good for the soul.

Take a break. Get out into the sunshine, take time with your families, have some fun.

Nothing is going to happen over the weekend. Really.

Be well and we’ll see you again on Monday!

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September 29, 2007 at 3:52 pm

PrincessDucky

Have a great weekend Ducky!

September 29, 2007 at 4:07 pm

Healthy LCer

Great idea, Ducky. We all need a breather. Good day for raking leaves.

September 29, 2007 at 4:51 pm

Sweetie

I for one will miss you this weekend Ducky.

September 29, 2007 at 5:02 pm

NO Kimkins

I’m sure you’ll be back Monday with an explosive BOMBSHELL and I for one am looking forward to it!

September 29, 2007 at 6:14 pm

Lisa J

I agree!
Have a great weekend all!!!!

September 30, 2007 at 12:43 am

La Mesa

Have a great weekend…you deserve a wonderful and relaxing time!

September 30, 2007 at 2:00 am

mac

Time to pay the piper… 14 Minutes ago
Kimmer, Heidi Diaz, Kim Drake and any other aliases you may be using as you scurry under what now must be a very large rock (in light of recently revealed photos) you hide under.

You, my friend are a real piece of work. You must really despise yourself or are one very sick individual to prey upon the weaknesses and vulnerability of the people that were attracted to your advice and website. Do you realize if you had put as much effort and thought into a legitimate and legal business purpose that you had with this plan of deception of yours, that all you are now facing (or will very soon be facing) would not even be an issue? Your condescending tone and belittling of others shows very clearly what you really think of yourself. Since you so obviously couldn’t change your inside or your outside you chose instead to prey upon these so-willing victims and in one fell swoop, strip them of their money and their dignity. Your obvious self-hatred is really very sad. I hope you get the two things you most deserve, the immediate help from a mental health professional and your day in a court of law. Please keep my $14.95 membership fee, as I am sure you will need it for a large attorney retainer, that or a one-way ticket out of the country.

Come out from behind the curtain Mr. Wizard…Emerald City is about to fall….

http://www.3fatchicks.com/Diets/Diet_Articles/Kimkins:_Anatomy_of_a_Diet_Scam

This posted at kimkins tonight!!

October 1, 2007 at 6:26 am

anani

Well I guess we know what Tippy was up to this weekend. Check out the new home page of Kimkins. (Warning: You’ll need a barf bag)

I hope Cartbabe can be notified plus I think the legal department of People Magazine needs to know that their logo has been cut and pasted into Kimkins advertising. Tippy I hope for your sake (well not really) that you actually had enough brains to get their express written permission to do this. You see…in the world of advertising it is illegal to use a copyrighted logo in your own advertising, without permission from that company, which …well, is pretty much impossible to get from as large a corporation as this.

Oh and notice how the “miracle woman” herself has been scrubbed off and any mention of her from the front page. No more red dress pic and no more mention of Kimmer and her amazing 198 lb weight loss.

October 1, 2007 at 12:40 pm

Dottie

“Oh and notice how the “miracle woman” herself has been scrubbed off and any mention of her from the front page. No more red dress pic and no more mention of Kimmer and her amazing 198 lb weight loss.”

Makes you wonder if she’s even there anymore…

October 1, 2007 at 2:26 pm

Kim

I have a subscription to People and I’m almost postive that there was no mention of Kimkins in that magazine. I could be wrong, but that would have stood out to me. I’m going to check and see if I still have that magazine and double check.

Another change to the Kimkins site: If you click on the 10 reasons to join, they aren’t listed anymore, you have to give your name and e-mail and they are sent to you.

Anybody else see this as the website crumbling? Does TT see Heidi taking herself away from this more and more and that means TT is going to be left holding the bag?





You Can’t Hide

29 09 2007

Yesterday, theTRUTH treated us to more inside private communications between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and SingingLass; private messages from a system that only the two currently have access to because the PM system was closed to all others in an attempt to ferret out who is leaking information.

Interestingly, SingingLass seems worried that her information might have been compromised if she’d included it to Kimmer in their communications. In the PM exchange released yesterday,

SingingLass wrote:
They were like three days ago. Heck, I just last night noticed the yellow star and enable admin mode and went “ohhhh”, I had not even initially realized stuff was being read, like by scoble etc…..I am glad I did not give my full work info out, I had almost sent you a direct link.

Here’s the scoop about SingingLass,

Delaney Lynn Deaver
XXXX NW 20th Street
Corvallis, OR 97330
(541) 752-1420

EDITED to remove rhetorical suggestion to avoid any further misunderstanding of intentions; original saved though no longer visible.

Her page at the EBSQ “self represented artists” website.

Her blog as of November 2006.

Her HPANA Harry Potter page.

And her Mormon Dating page.





Is SingingLass a Double Agent?

29 09 2007

We laughed, quite heartily too, as we read the latest installment from theTRUTH of the private communications between SingingLass and Kimmer (Heidi Diaz); a discussion which took place while only two people have access to the Private Message system in Kimkins.

Kimmer wrote:
Nobody has access to the PMs except you & me. Now, if an admin is posting stuff I can’t figure out who that would be? Gary? No, Tarvosk? No. Tippy, Carolyn? No. Who else?

SingingLass wrote:
Then someone has hacked. The pms that are up, are the exchanges between you and i talking about people we were considering banning…..mommas3, honeybee, reesie….and there is bragging that they have more. All of this coming from whoever “thetruth” is….same person who posted our private staff board.

I swear and promise I have not leaked anything. I do think when we switch to the private board, we should use it instead of pms here though, something is going on.

Kimmer wrote:
Yeah, but those are old PMs when admins had access to “admin mode”. No one has that ability now except you & me and I’m not worried about you.
I still like the idea of non-Kimkins for communicating.

SingingLass wrote:
They were like three days ago. Heck, I just last night noticed the yellow star and enable admin mode and went “ohhhh”, I had not even initially realized stuff was being read, like by scoble etc…..I am glad I did not give my full work info out, I had almost sent you a direct link.
There may be some kind of hacking going on too, think we should not rule that out.

Kimmer wrote:
I agree with hacking. Let’s keep our info at the new MB

*****

And with that we learn that SingingLass is the top gun, most trusted, to Kimmer; not Tippytoes; SingingLass has access to the Private Message system, Tippytoes does not.

See the complete post for theTRUTH’s additional commentary!





What’s Up?

28 09 2007

Believe it or not, there isn’t much happening today.

Kimkins is a virtual ghost town.

Tippytoes is keeping her thoughts to herself, mostly.

SingingLass is behaving.

The other admins aren’t catching our attention.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is probably sweating, but not letting on.

Somehow what started as a fun inside joke amongst the blogs has turned into the idea that we have something more to come, with much suspense building throughout the day. Anticipation of something more we didn’t quite realize had reached a fever pitch on some forums.

Smiles.

Winks.

Funny graphics.

We didn’t start it, but did participate by posting a graphic, and if that made someone believe there was more to come, please accept our apologies.

Now back to our regularly scheduled program!





Kimkins Members Stealth Goodbyes Stay Under Admin Radar

28 09 2007

Member 1 wrote:

NAME, Thank you so much for posting this!! I was just going to do this same thing. I can’t let NAME go through this. If you don’t remember me I was the one who left a few weeks ago, because I just didn’t feel right about this diet, but I just wanted to come back to you all and let you know the health risks. Also check out Deni’s site as well at The Open Bench I too was craving peanuts like crazy and vanilla milkshakes. My body was craving fat and calcium. I also was obsessed with the scale like you. All things in moderation and exercise is my new motto. Did you notice that Kimmer took out the forum where people could vent about this diet. It is gone now, what does that tell you about her. She is getting scared and I just wanted to inform all of you. I will probably be kicked out for saying these things, but it is worth it to save you all the health risks associated with this diet. Love always, NAME

Member 2 wrote:

Good Morning,
It is with a heavy heart that I write this. After much prayer and soul searching, I feel that I must leave. There are many reason for my decision, some of which are the unethical things that have been going on, and the recent account that people are having major health problems. While I am grateful for meeting such wonderful people and I have learned a lot about myself and my eating habits, I don’t feel I can stay. I would love to stay in touch with you guys and keep the support and friendships that we have built together.
You can email me at EMAIL

Thanks for all the support and I hope to hear from you.

Member 3 wrote:

NAME – I was asked before in PM’s etc., how I felt about this diet and the ************. I rationalized and said it was best to get the weight off – basically no matter the cost…..Please forgive me! I was wrong. Please watch this video. It says it all! I thoroughly concur. I too, have the same symptons and issues. I have developed anorexic symptons – yes, I’m thinner – but at what cost to my heart and body. Please be wise and listen to your bodies. The Journey.

Wink! Smi





Wink! Smile! Oh My!

28 09 2007





Keep Digging Tippytoes, Keep Digging

28 09 2007

Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) continues to enlighten Kimkins members about her theory on Ducky, theTRUTH and why Low Carb Friends is unAmerican too!

SUBJECT: Re:Question for Tippy

Tippytoes wrote:

Well, Netrition does allow it’s BB to be used to help destroy our home here. They allow members to speak freely and very unkindly, make fun of and threaten people who follow Kimkins. They even allow this hostility towards their own members who follow Kimkins. They are aware their chat admins are Ducky and The Truth and they are aware of the slander being written and promoted. They have made no efforts to discourage this behavior and in fact appear to be in favor of promoting it. They allow their members to make fun of overweight people yet they call themselves a diet support site. They still keep all Kimkins threads available for use. The “we can do what we want and you better not question it” is unreasonable and unAmerican at best. If you want to do business with this company you certainly may and you have every right to do so. But I want the truth known so others can make their own choices too.

*****

It’s clear Tippytoes has now entered into the realm of what can only be considered libel against Low Carb Friends and their admins; in addition she’s now fully within the boundaries of a lawsuit should Low Carb Friends or those admins she’s accusing decide to take the next step.

Oh, and Tippytoes, slander isn’t written, it’s verbal.





Kimkins Members Continue to Flee

28 09 2007

Yesterday theTRUTH posted about a Kimkins member, Hogsfan, who went on a posting spree in an attempt to warn other members about the dangers of Kimkins.

Last night, another member posted a longer, but similar warning to other members, again posted fully at theTRUTH. Go take a look.





Jimmy Moore Follows Up on Christin’s Story

28 09 2007

Please note, the following is a repost from Livin’ La Vida Low Carb. We have edited to remove graphics and embedded video.

Kimkins cover girl: “I was wrong…Kimkins is not the way to lose weight”

It takes a very special person to publicly admit when they were wrong about something even after multiple warnings and concerns shared by those around them. And yet that is exactly what has happened this week when Kimkins Woman’s World cover girl Christin delivered an impassioned video apology at her blog along with a detailed explanation of the health complications she and others have suffered since beginning the risky low-carb imposter diet scheme devised by a morbidly obese woman named Heidi Diaz.

I blogged about my concerns over the Kimkins fiasco that culminated earlier this week when this beautiful young woman had to be rushed to the emergency room because of some pain in her chest and heart complications. When you hear something like this happening that was brought on by such an extreme low-fat/low-calorie diet like Kimkins, it should make you angry. AND I AM ANGRY ABOUT IT!

To anyone who is still on the Kimkins diet, CHRISTIN has a message just for YOU (link to video)

Show your support for and encouragement to Christin by leaving a comment about this video at her “The Journey On” blog. What a brave woman she is and I am honored to know her as a friend. She has demonstrated nothing but grace, elegance, and dignity in the midst of what has become a complete and utter nightmare for so many of us in the low-carb community concerning this Kimkins debacle.

For the sake of those who cannot view the video, the following is a summary of the video, including direct quotes made by Christin regarding her experience following the Kimkins diet. Be prepared to be shocked and stunned as she shares quite openly about the negative impact this weight loss fraud has had and may continue to have on her health. Pray for her even now as she seeks to reverse the damage that has been done.

Christin said she did this video so that others would “know exactly where I stand on this.” She explained why most people choose to lose weight: to improve their health. Period! When you are 100+ pounds overweight, then you are not living healthy, she noted.

She chose the Kimkins program because she “wanted to lose weight quickly and I thought healthfully” because she “wanted more for my life.” She wanted to “be there” for her family in the years to come. I think all of us who have ever gone on a weight loss plan can relate to that.

When she first began, the program was working great for her because “I was following the program exactly as written. I thought I was doing perfectly.” But after losing 100 pounds in five months, Christin then conspicuously noticed there was not one single doctor who approved the Kimkins diet. That’s when she started looking into who Heidi Diaz, aka Kimmer, really was and what she claimed to be.

Diaz had alleged in the marketing of Kimkins that she lost 198 pounds in 11 months on this Kimkins diet and was promoting it that way to anyone who would listen with supposed pictures to prove it. But it was this recent series of articles that included recent photographs of Diaz along with several other sites that made Christin become concerned and realize that those claims by Diaz were simply “not true.”

“Heidi did not lose the weight, she did not follow this program that she claims is safe for anybody, even for diabetics,” Christin said.

Then Christin turned in her video to the “risks” of being on the Kimkins diet that she discovered first-hand while following the program. She said she has real “concerns for everyone else that has attempted this program or will attempt this program.”

That includes first and foremost hair loss. Christin admitted that her hair “started fall out in handfuls” and it “scared” her. She estimates she has lost as much as 60 percent of what used to be “thick, full hair” prior to her Kimkins experience.

“Now it’s very thin,” she exclaimed.

Another side effect was the loss of her menstrual cycle that she believes happened from “eating so few calories and my body was becoming malnourished.” She said the hair loss and lack of periods are both tell-tale signs of anorexia, an eating disorder where victims literally starve themselves to be thin.

“I believe now the Kimkins diet program promotes a form of anorexia that I don’t know if science has even attempted touch on this yet,” Christin stated. “300 calories a day is not safe weight loss.”

Any dietary change this drastic need to be closely monitored by a doctor just like those who undergo gastric bypass surgery do, she added.

When these symptoms began to show up, Christin went on the Kimkins forums to see if anyone else was losing their hair and female cycle like she was. “What’s going on?” she pleaded to anyone who would listen to her concerns. And Christin said she “saw it come up multiple times” regarding these symptoms she was having in other people, too.

The excuse provided in response to this happening was that it was “perfectly normal and you’re going through a shed. Your body is just losing estrogen.” It was just too coincidental that “almost every other person who kept their calories under 1000 calories, probably more under 700 calories, has lost hair.”

“I don’t want to scare you,” Christin said speaking directly to people who are still following Kimkins, “but I want to bring you into the reality that there is a better way to lose weight.”

Christin asks “are you really doing this?” and urges people to take their diet plan to their doctor for him to examine it. “Take him your Fitday, take him exactly what you are eating, let him see your calorie counts,” she said.

“I’m concerned about you,” Christin pleaded.

Christin says she is sorry for supporting the “dangerous” Kimkins diet

When the time came for Christin to step into the spotlight back in June when the Woman’s World magazine cover story opportunity came up, she said she was “put on a pedestal as the ‘cover girl.’ I was the model, I was the way to do it.” But now she realizes how she was used as a pawn and seeks the mercy of those who trusted and looked up to her.

“I need to ask your forgiveness,” she said. “I’m sorry. I was wrong. Kimkins is not the way to lose weight. Kimkins is dangerous…for your health, it’s dangerous for your psyche.”

But as much as Kimkins hurt Christin up until this point, none of it was as grave as what was happening to her without even realizing it. She had the symptoms of an eating disorder that she admits made her realize she “had a problem” when she was fearful of even consuming some salad out of fear that she’d stall in her weight loss.

“I did not get fat on salad and on healthy vegetables,” Christin explained. “I got fat on sugar and white carbs.”

Getting over the fear of eating was a very difficult mental test for Christin as she now obsessed over every little bite of food she was eating and how it would impact her on the scale. She revealed that she hasn’t met anyone who has been on the Kimkins program who wasn’t “literally scared” to add food back into their diet.

“What kind of a program is it that makes you scared? Weight loss is not about fear, weight loss is about excitement, it’s about joy, it’s about recapturing your life,” Christin shared with a glimmer in her eyes. “It should be a fun journey, not a fearful one.”

And yet fear was exactly what gripped Christin and it would not let go of her.

“If I wasn’t losing everyday, then I began wondering what was wrong with me,” Christin admitted. “Nothing was wrong with me. My body was screaming at me. It was putting the brakes on and telling me you’re going about this the wrong way.”

As a devout Christian, she knew that “God created us to eat healthy foods; vegetables and fruits, whole grains, and yes, even fat.” Christin reiterated that she believes there is “validity to low-carb programs” like Atkins, Protein Power, and the like when they are done the correct way and not the Kimkins way.

“You will provide your body with all of the nutrients that it needs” when you follow low-carb by the book, Christin shared. “God did not create you to starve yourself.”

Outlining the “many dangers within the Kimkins program,” she said that it goes much deeper than just an eating disorder. She said that “something is going on within my body” and that it has been manifested in the form of “flutters” in her heart for the past month.

“Twinges, cramps, aches, all within my chest cavity right around the area of my heart,” Christin expressed, sharing that it all came to a head on Monday when the “severe chest pains…stomach aches, and nausea” were so great she was admitted to the emergency room staying there until late at night.

The doctors examined her with many tests, including an EKG, blood work, chest x-rays, and they kept her at the hospital for several hours to monitor her condition. It’s still unknown what caused the tremendous pain to come on Christin like it did on Monday night, but she was prescribed pain medications and was referred to a cardiologist for an immediate follow-up visit.

That visit to the cardiologist took place on Wednesday who shared several concerns for Christin. With a “more and more serious” look on his face after hearing Christin’s story about her starvation-mode weight loss method compliments of the Kimkins diet, he told her flat out that “our bodies can suffer damage from eating that little.”

After conducting more tests on her, including an EKG, an ECG, blood work, and “lots of listening with the stethoscope,” the cardiologist said he was not concerned about what he called a “normal” low pulse rate of 45 (incidentally, mine is in the upper 40’s since I lost nearly 200 pounds and Christin has experienced a heart rate in the low-to-mid 40’s). Even still, she says she “might get a second opinion on” just to be sure about it.

But there were real concerns that the cardiologist had for Christin, including “possible damage to my heart nodes and valves from malnutrition.” Because of that, he wants to have a sonogram of Christin’s heart to confirm whether or not there is this damage since it was inconclusive from the initial examination. He’s also concerned about some “esophageal spasms” that happen whenever there is a “rapid change in your dietary program and you lose a lot of weight.”

“Things can change on your insides,” Christin quoted the cardiologist as saying, “that it takes it a while to catch up.”

She is now medication for this “distress” with the contractions surrounding her esophagus and trying to rest as her body goes through the healing process.

Speaking passionately and directly to those who still think the Kimkins diet is a safe and effective way to lose weight in a healthy manner, Christin had an extremely clear and articulate message for them.

“If I and my story can stop anyone else from having pain and having the fear that I did that I might have caused even further damage and by attempting to be for my family I hindered my longevity with them–I was scared to death. That ride to the hospital was one of the most fearful ones that I have ever had! My husband was scared at having to face the possibility of losing his wife and his helper and his love,” she recalled from her haunting experience earlier this week.

When they got to the hospital, Christin said she and her husband “prayed together” while holding hands hoping for the best in God’s hands. And that’s something she wants to help others avoid if they will simply listen to what she has to say.

“If I can save any of you from having to go through that, then it is worth it,” Christin concluded.

Speaking about her role as the Public Relations head of Kimkins last month and as the cover girl on the Woman’s World magazine in June, Christin said she did it because she “thought [she] was helping” others as is her heart’s desire.

“It has always been my desire to help people,” she said. “And especially those that I feel a connection with, those who have struggled to lose weight their entire lives, those who have issues with obesity–something that I know all too well.”

Christin said taking on those responsibilities felt like she was “doing my part to give hope, to give assurance, to sympathize and to empathize” with people who were facing the same struggles that she had trying to lose weight. She still has those feelings for people who want to beat their obesity which is why she is still blogging and participating in a low-carb forum again.

“My heart goes out to you because I know what it’s like,” Christin stated. “I know the euphoria of losing weight quickly, but I also know the risks and the dangers involved and I am begging with you now to please listen to your body like I’ve said so many times and do the right thing.”

She added: “There is a right way and a wrong way to lose weight. And I am now convinced that starving yourself and utilizing the Kimkins program in that manner is not the right way.”

Realizing there is still a need for a community for people who desire weight loss the healthy way, Christin said we should all “stand together and learn together” the “correct way to use a low-carb program to make each other healthy, to live a longer life for our loved ones and our families.”

Christin said she’ll be back to blogging again soon and appreciates the friendship and love that has been shown to her through this horrific experience.

“I love you and I’m here for you,” she concluded.

Visit Christin and learn more about her continuing low-carb weight loss journey at her “The Journey On” blog as well as the “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Discussion” forum. And if you would like to contact Woman’s World magazine to let them know about your concerns regarding the Kimkins program, their direct e-mail address is DearWW@aol.com. Perhaps if enough of us let them know about Christin and others who have suffered serious health consequences from being on Kimkins, then they may print a retraction.





This Just In…

27 09 2007

Christin has a message for SingingLass and TippyToes.

I have debated about publishing the following, but after reading conversations released today by The Truth In Hiding concerning bonuses, I am going to share publicly the incentives Kimmer offered me as Public Relations Director for Kimkins.

In my previous blog, Ethics vs Economics, I eluded to having to make a financial decision to walk away from Kimkins. Believe me; I struggled with what to do. I risked losing a lot.

The following conversation was in reference to obtaining new magazine articles and contacts:

Aug 20, 2007

Heidi: if you land us a magazine story (even if not the cover)
me: )
Heidi: you’ll get a
company car )
me:
wha?? LOL
9:59 PM Heidi: )
me: you’re pulling my leg…
Heidi: not at all
me: ) great incentive! ;)
10:00 PM Heidi: and a raise )

I submitted my story and articles to multiple magazines; however, I had not received a contact back from any at that point.

This next conversation is in reference to contacts with the reporters who scout stories for Harpo Studios (Oprah Winfrey):

Aug 22, 2007

Heidi: i’m telling you now, that if you get “us” on oprah $100,000 to you. promise.
11:12 AM me: wow… that’s a very generous offer…. I’m working on it!!!

The next conversation concerned Heidi’s offer to me as PR director and head moderator. For reference, the “dead” comment refers to her being without access to the Kimkins forums for a time.

Aug 25, 2007:
Heidi: 1) since i’m “dead” could i ask you to ask the others about being admins?
me: sure

5:56 PM Heidi: what would you think of being head admin? new salary $1500/mo
me: oh wow…

There are more conversations, but my goal here is to reach the remaining admins.

Tippy and Singling Lass, you are being used.





Becky Continues

27 09 2007

Just moments ago, Becky posted a continuation of Kimkins: The Perfect Storm.

Now, a look at the professional practices of Kimkins.

Kimmer first gave out her brand of diet advice (as well as hair care and skin care tips) for years on Low Carb Friends, which garnered both followers and foes. I am not sure when the idea of her own site first began in her mind, whether it was all a carefully-laid plan, or just an opportunity too good to pass up when it arose. Judging from her track record of not sticking very long with any one thing (whether it be school or work or a relationship), I would guess that it was the latter. My conjecture is that she joined the diet site in all sincerity, hoping to lose weight like anyone else. She probably learned some things and had some initial success, but then, being Kimmer, she just couldn’t help embellishing things a bit, highlighting her successes and ignoring her failings, amplifying it more and more, becoming more extreme over time, as it began to attract some attention. Gradually, the gap between her words and her actions widened, as she could not follow through with her knowledge and intentions, but could not allow herself to back down and admit it, either.

She may have done what many of us have done —- promised herself to get back on track tomorrow, next week, next month, try to be extra strict to make up for it, only to give in to her old ways again. Her real life wasn’t working for her at all — but online she could be the best possible version of herself, everything she every dreamed of, until perhaps she came to believe it herself. The attention and approbation were too addicting.

At some point, it seems, delusion reigned supreme, and there was no backing down. As her claims became more grandiose and her polarizing presence began to dominate and draw heat more and more at the LCF forum, another member, Catherine, approached her with the idea of an ebook and a website to sell it. (Read more here.) I think it was the brass ring, the golden goose, and Kimmer/Heidi grabbed at the opportunity for . Once that thought was there, I do believe Kimmer purposely aggravated her enemies and gathered her fans even more, setting the stage for her big exit. Soon, ‘Kimmer’ flounced off in a huff, and Kimkins.com was launched as a partnership between Heidi Diaz, supposed diet guru and Catherine McDonald, tech expert.

In the early days of the Kimkins website, Kimmer seemed to have it all — a successful diet plan, satisfied customers who were easy to please, low overhead, and a competent business partner who made her ideas work. Her departure from LCF calmed down hostilities quite a bit all around, and Kimmer was left to operate her own site in her own little corner of the internet with little interference. If she had made the right moves then, Heidi/Kimmer might possibly have been able to continue on course to a legitimate business success for quite some time to come. However, because Kimmer at her core is a fraud, it was inevitable that any enterprise built on that basis would soon begin to crumble.

Kimmer was not only a fraud in her own personal claims of large, rapid weight loss, but she soon began building the business of Kimkins around fraud at virtually every level — member service, marketing, and management.

~ Fraudulent Member Service: She lied to her members about the safety and efficacy of her diet plans, leading them to believe her plans were safely based on the recognized plans of doctors such as Dr. Atkins and Dr. Stillman, while continuing to push them ever farther away from the cautions and sensible limits of those plans. She assured members it was safe, because, after all, it had worked so well for her, or so she said. She also began to be less and less available to members, despite her promised member benefit of ‘personal coaching‘. She ignored or gave inadequate and misleading answers to valid member concerns. This was because she apparently preferred to spend her energies on marketing, to keep new paying customers coming in the front door while leaving the members mostly on their own to look out for one another.

~ Fraudulent Marketing: In her marketing campaign, she lied to prospective members by spamming Craigslist with fake listings to plug Kimkins, by posting phony ‘articles’ and answers and numerous blogs for Kimkins all over the internet under various names, by promoting Kimkins with false implied celebrity endorsements specifically to target teens, and primarily by posting numerous fraudulent ’success’ stories with ‘lifted’ and photoshopped ‘before’ and ‘after’ pictures. She also made numerous claims she had no proof of or right to make, in violation of FTC regulations.

~ Fraudulent Management: Heidi/Kimmer entered into partnership with Catherine originally under false pretenses, and continued to lie to her about many things, including the source of the ‘success stories‘. It also appears that Heidi skimmed a certain part of the gross proceeds from the partnership before profits were split, by funneling income to supposed affiliate accounts which actually led back to her. It is unclear whether proper legal or tax filings were ever made, though it does not appear they were.

In matters big and small, every bit of the Kimkins enterprise was fraught with deception. It was bound to catch up to her sooner or later.

Before too long, Catherine began to have concerns about Heidi’s integrity, and backed out of the partnership. At this point, Kimmer claims to have brought in 4 other partners to finance Catherine’s buyout, but this is highly doubtful. For one thing, one of the partners she claims to have brought in at that time is Heidi Diaz, but photographic and written evidence clearly shows that Kimmer herself is Heidi Diaz. (For example, Kimmer has always acknowledged that Catherine was her partner in the beginning, and Catherine signed the original partnership agreement with Heidi Diaz.) Other names mentioned as possible ‘partners’ include Dennis Sharp (her son), Vanessa Sharp and/or Romero (Vanessa Romero is her niece), Nicki or Nikki Sharp, and Tish Diaz. It is extremely unlikely that these relatives are actually working, decision-making partners as Kimmer leads people to believe. It is possible they put up some money so Heidi could buy out Catherine; it is possible she got money from them under some other pretext; it is very possible they know little or nothing, and she is just using their names to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise. Nicki and later Vanessa disappeared from the “Meet Your Team’ roster some time ago, so it is possible they were based on actual people who became aware of the use of their identities, and protested it.

I have seen various things supposedly ‘written’ by some of those names and now Brad Johnson. To me. they all have the same unmistakable writing style, and are all almost surely written by Heidi herself, who freely admits to writing frequently under various male and female names. No one has ever spoken or communicated with any of them, except through Kimmer, and she trotted out the same excuses over and over as to why they were not available. (Usually they were ‘called out of town to deal with a sick father’.) Kimmer herself often spoke to me of doing all affiliate payouts and answering affiliate questions, even though she supposedly had an affiliate manager. These ‘partners’ were probably a construct that Kimmer used to pass blame, as when criticizing someone (’the partners don’t think they are getting their money’s worth’) or floating unpopular ideas (’the partners are pressing to make the fees monthly vs. lifetime membership’, which she brought up to me several times), as well as to provide other ‘identities’ under which to hide income.

In fact, there is no good reason to assume that the entity of Kimkins is anything other than Heidi Diaz sitting at her computer pumping out fraudulent marketing and picking up funds from Paypal and the mailbox, with a tech guy or two working remotely and unaware of the real situation, and paid and unpaid admins and members doing the heavy lifting on the site.

The best of businesses, with a solid business plan and an experienced team of managers would have been hard pressed to absorb the massive explosion of growth that occurred with the Woman’s World magazine feature. Kimmer only had forum helpers with very little knowledge of the true nature of the business; after all, she could not afford to bring anyone into her confidence, because she had too many secrets to hide. So, Heidi was suddenly way out of her league. She was gleeful at the funds rolling in, and foolishly thought she could continue to get away with the same type of scamming indefinitely. She was even in contact with Star magazine for another feature. Who knows? Maybe she even thought she could lose the weight, go legit, and make it work. However, her newfound success soon began to cave in on her.

Once thousands of new members hit the site and began trying to understand and apply the diet, the pressure was too heavy and all the cracks in the foundation soon began to appear. Without the personal mentoring and reinterpretation of the diets that new members had received before, the flaws and gaps in Heidi’s business soon became very evident. Many of those coming in with fresh eyes clearly saw the disparity between what was promised and what was delivered. Many clearly saw the dangers of the diet plans, all of them. Of the 40,000 or more who joined, most never even tried the diet once they actually saw it, and many who did try it did not stick with it long. Meanwhile, all the massive attention the diet was receiving reignited the souldering controversy that she thought she had left behind at LCF. However, Heidi did have two things working in her favor: the misplaced support of people like me who encouraged new members to stick with it, and the absolute sheer desperation of overweight people who had almost given up hope. For my own blindness and supporting role in it, I am sick-to-my-stomach sorry, and beg forgiveness.

At this time, Heidi seemed manic with delight over the income rolling in, and eager to spin off new ventures – more magazine and media features, merchandise, and related enterprises like the nutrition business she offered me. She could hardly be bothered with member support or complaints, and brushed off all concerns as something irrelevant, hardly worthy of her attention, even as worrisome side effects and evidences of her dishonesty mounted. Thus, the round of emails I pressed on her, with the results that we admins began to leave and express our concerns and experiences.

Our exits and warnings further precipitated a rash of blockings and bannings, as other members took up the banner and began speaking out. The business of Kimkins is now woefully in breech of the terms of their agreement with their members, who paid for lifetime membership in a healthy and safe diet followed by a woman who lost 198 lbs in 11 months and maintained it, only to be booted without warning when they complained that the diet was unsafe and the owner’s story was a lie. Members have had ‘privileges’ like private messaging and blog links in their signatures revoked, have been flamed and harangued mercilessly for any hint of breaking ranks,and have been banned without warning, redress, or refund on the vaguest pretext of ‘violation of Terms of Service’, which, like the diet plans and disclaimers, are an ever-moving target, conveniently changed after the fact.

Kimmer had it all — a million dollar website, a great staff, great member loyalty, and great future prospects. And due to great greed, arrogance, and dishonesty she threw it away.

Kimmer is now behaving like a rat backed into a corner, biting and snarling, while looking for a way of to escape unscathed. She is starting to meltdown, trying to cover her tracks and salvage what she can, leaving more of the running of things in the hands of unqualified admins. Perhaps she still thinks she can pull it off, or perhaps she is making her exit plans. As she continues to overestimate herself and underestimate her opponents, she will find, once again, that she has made a grave mistake in waiting too long.

Kimmer is a dangerous fraud, and the business of Kimkins is a dangerous fraud.

Both need to be stopped, and the sooner, the better.

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September 27, 2007 at 7:50 pm

Mimi

A note about the timeline … correct me if I’m wrong, but from all the digging that’s been done, Kimkins.com was set up BEFORE Heidi left LCF.

She had found LCF fertile ground for cultivating a crop of victims, but couldn’t harvest them until (according to the CreditBoard) her bankruptcy and other liens had “timed off.”

In the meantime, she was getting the website ready. When the time-off date had passed, that’s when she left LCF and started charging money for memberships.

This is, to the best of my knowledge, the REAL timeline.

September 27, 2007 at 8:01 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 8:10 pm

Becky/Littlebit

I believe that Kimkins.com as a domain name was registered in April. 2006, the big flail-up happened in late May or early June, with site launch very shortly after.

Catherine or Martin would know more.

September 27, 2007 at 8:21 pm

Mimi

Yes I’m confusing registration of the domain, with opening the board. What I mean is, basically, she was laying the groundwork for the board, preparing, and building up to her dramatic exit from LCF.

As one of the other commenters has stated elsewhere, Heidi isn’t mentally ill — she’s simply evil, and she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s fully aware of her intentions and her actions, fully capable of outcome-based behaviors.

September 27, 2007 at 9:54 pm

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Becky (assuming you come back to this blog), after the WW article, was it ever *confirmed* that over 35,000 new members actually paid the life-time membership fee? Confirmed by anyone other than Kimmer, I should say. Did you have access to those types of figures, names and numbers?

I was a member there at the time and, yes, it was mind-boggling with the flood of new members, but close to 40,000? I’ve always had trouble believing that figure. If that’s really the case, the vast majority of them obviously didn’t stick around to post in the forums.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t doubt YOU, Becky. But I can see how Kimmer would exaggerate the numbers just, as you said, “to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise.”

If the 40,000 figure is anywhere close to accurate … where are all these people? Those of us protesting here, at ALC, LCF, etc. are just the tip of the iceberg.

September 27, 2007 at 10:19 pm

Princess Dieter

It would be interesting to know when Kimmer-Heidi’s son turned legal age. Maybe THAT is what she was waiting for, since she put the site under his name. If the son turned 18 Spring of 2006, that would definitely put the motivation there…

(Can a 17 yeard old have a site registered under their name? I have no idea.)

And I totally believe she’d be going to LCF to gather her following before heading off.

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 10:45 pm

antikimkins

Kimmer certainly doesn’t appear to be a millionaire, in fact, she still seems to have money problems. I wonder out of the thousands who joined after the WW article, how many requested refunds within that 24 hour block?

September 27, 2007 at 11:20 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Kimmer canceled the 24- hour refund policy prior to the magazine feature. She did give out some refunds from those who joined and cited kidney problems or other medical concerns, once they saw the diet, but very few.

I cannot prove those figures are accurate, but i would not be at all surprised if the membership numbers are not actually higher now.

I know how busy i was. I saw the posts rolling through there. At one time, I had access to member service emails, and she was getting literally thousands of emails a day. I was getting scores of PMs, as were many others. We had thousands online at a time, and hundreds posting intros and joining new challenges every day.

She also became suddenly very elated, and became much more willing to pay for help.

I imagine many signed up, looked at the diets, and left quickly, chalking it up to an expensive lesson learned. Most were not a typical online crowd. Quite a few lurked, but did not post. Many posted, but have dropped out now. Many have gotten banned, or cowed into silence. Still, they paid, and she kept the money.

She only took the membership and online numbers down when she began drawing too much fire from LCF, Slamboard, etc. I believe she wanted to reduce speculation into her gross profits once people started doing the math.

I have heard people say that they would look online and not see many people there back then. Perhaps they were not looking in the right places, because that was not at all the case then. The way the site was set up, the number reflected on a forum index page did not reflect the number actually viewing threads within that particular forum, but only the number of people looking at that index page at the time. You would have to open each thread to get a full count.

Only she knows for sure what her full intake was, but I have reason to believe it was quite high.

She told me she had only put back into the business what was absolutely necessary, and had the rest invested at a 10% rate of return. Who knows if that is true?

I do not believe she planned this out years in advance. I think she posted at LCF first for ego and power, and only later for money. I just don’t see her as someone who can sustain hard work for long without some kind of a payoff, but rather as an opportunist. I could be wrong. Time will tell.

September 28, 2007 at 2:04 am

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Thank you, Becky, for that insight. I guess I’ve been hoping for lower numbers because that would mean fewer people were scammed, but it looks like she really was/is raking in the big bucks. Thanks again.

September 28, 2007 at 2:47 am

Dottie

Becky that’s very insightful. I also do not think that this giant “venture” was on her mind when she started out on LCF. Looking back on when she left, I really think she was planning on just getting $$ out of maybe a couple of dozen of her “fans” off LCF, then shutting the site down due to lack of funds (or hitting the members up for more $$ to “run” it).
I don’t really think she had any idea that it would take off in the big way that it did.

September 28, 2007 at 7:15 am

Princess Dieter

I totally believe there was a windfall from WW. That kind of coverage is sure to do that.

And I’m sure H/K knew to keep the money inflow quiet and the lifestyle discreet so as to keep all sorts off her back. Spending oodles would have drawn attention, I think. There is also the miser phenomenon where accumulating the money is the kick, not spending it. In fact, spending it reduces the pleasure of actually having a hoard.

Even if it’s half the reported 40K, that’s a lot of mookah going mostly to ONE woman who is hardly accountable. She got the Paypal and the checks. Why should she be truthful about how much when she’s not truthful about the rest?

And if she can offer Christian a car, then 100K for an Oprah brass ring, trust me, that means she had to have a nice, tidy reserve.

It would only have taken 10K members after WW to get 600K. And if that’s not reported or paid taxes on, that’s a nice chunk for any “disabled” person on government dole.

Didn’t someone say that the son bragged mom had a million in Paypal? (Can’t verify where that came from. Just remember reading it.)

The Princess

September 28, 2007 at 8:31 am

Sherrie

I think you’re right Becky.

September 30, 2007 at 8:12 pm

Peaches12

Why did all the admin. wait until the same time to quit. If you knew the diet was dangerous why did you continue to state otherwise, was it just the money that kept you going. I’m so confused, I continue to do Kimkins but with a higher fat intake since my body stalled and the increase intake helped it to lose quicker. How could so many been individual’s lifes have been put in jeopardy for merely a paycheck. Can you answer that, Becky?





Kimkins Member Doesn’t Hold Back

27 09 2007

Subject: It’s going to be okay
So, probably none of you remember me, but I started KK at the very end of March. I had a marvelous time, met numerous true friends with whom I am still in (near-constant) contact (Hi guys!!) and managed to lose 30 pounds. At this point, I must note that I never cut fat and took every weekend off-plan. So it wasn’t exactly KK that I was doing. But I was very happy and, having never experienced or utilised ketosis before, felt grateful to have found “the plan”.

Once we switched over to the new site, it got a little big for me, so I pretty much gave up posting and just read a little here and there. As I said, I was never militant about the diet (don’t fence me in, baby!), but appreciated being able to return to the forums to keep up with friends.

Once this whole drama started to unfold, I researched enough to form my opinion and decided that I can’t give even tacit support to this plan or it’s founder. I started deleting my posts and saying my goodbyes. And since so many people are carrying on the dialogue so effectively, I might have been persuaded to fade quietly away with no parting message.

Except that one thing is still bothering me.

Months ago, several of us tried to help a woman who was doing her best to follow Kimmer’s plan. She had struggled with eating-disorder-type behavior before, and was having a hard time believing that she could just eat as much as she wanted while getting into ketosis. She would try to see how long she could go without eating and we would remind her that that wasn’t how “the plan” worked.

Apparently she had posted or PM’d to Kimmer, because one day she posted an furious rant in her journal about how we had misled her and Kimmer had set her straight about why she wasn’t losing weight. The whole thing was a little distressing, and there was some confusion about whether she was in ketosis or not, but that was not the part that troubled me the most.

Here is the post in its entirety- the capitals are from the member; she quotes Kimmer’s message in the middle:
—————————————

DO NOT COME HERE AND TELL ME I’M STARVING MYSELF

PER KIMMER:

[Name], sorry to say but you have to pay the piper. Your weight increase is due to going off plan and overeating. I’ve posted many times that a cheat will set you back 4-7 days — that is, to get back to where you were before the cheat.

No way around it. A good reminder if the idea ever crosses your mind again! Ketosis is a chemical state. Mess with it and all weight loss hell breaks loose!

If someone tells you you’re starving, just do the calculation in your head of how much “food” you have hanging on your body. Multiply fat pounds by 3500. You won’t “starve” until all of those are gone.

THAT EQUALS 866,520 I WILL NOT STARVE UNTIL ALL OF THAT IS GONE…I WISH I HAD LISTENED TO MYSELF AND CONTINUED DOING THIS MY WAY…I WOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION NOW.

I’M SO MIFFED.

—————————————

This has been bothering me for months.

So here is what I’ve wanted to say about it:

What the heck kind of advice is that, Kimmer?

You won’t starve until all your fat pounds are gone?

That’s nonsense. And we all know it.

This was the Exact Moment that I started to realize that you are not what you say you are.

It’s not just that this woman took you too seriously, or just that she was already predisposed to misinterpret what you were saying.

You actually said: you won’t starve until your fat pounds are gone.

What’s a fat pound, anyway? And which ones?

I don’t want anyone to miss this: you essentially told her that she would be okay to starve her way to goal.

It’s clear from reading the rest of her journal that this poor woman took your punishing advice and was doing her best to Never Eat Again.

I can only think of a few possible reasons why you would instruct a person in this way.

1) You actually haven’t a clue how the body works.
2) You hate or don’t care about the person.
3)You want their money or the authority/recognition/applause more than you actually want to help.
4) All of the above.

Which is it, Kimmer?





Amy Clears Up Any Confusion

27 09 2007

Amy Flanagan, aka Curlygirl at Kimkins, has a message for admins in Kimkins,

So people have confirmed that my journal (all 91 pages), my bikini before/after picture, and all my posts are still there. And to top it all off – I am now showing as “online” over there. Not sure how that can be considering – I AM BANNED FROM THE FORUM!

Awhile back, I had asked admin TippyToes to remove my journal since I no longer post on Kimkins. She said she would pass the request on to Kimmer. Yet nothing happened. I’m not stupid! I was an admin way back when so I know that to delete a post, all you need to do is click the little button that says Delete. If you do that to the first post in a thread, the whole thread will easily be deleted, so let’s not pretend this is a complicated procedure.

Just for the record – I am banned there. I cannot access the forums over there. They are using my pictures and my words against my will.





The Psychic Predicts…

27 09 2007

It’s starting off a banner day in the speculation department as to whom Ducky is.

First Tippytoes is sure we’re admins and members from Low Carb Friends. Now, theTRUTH posted private messages between SingingLass and Kimmer, with SingingLass offering her insights about who we are.

Oh, it doesn’t get any better than this!

SingingLass wrote:

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/

Thats the fun stuff. I keep the kimkins site open in my IE browser, and when I go to any of those sites or LCF, I do so seperately through aol, fav places etc…so that they cannot see a browsing trail. I use a statistical traffic counter thingy on my listings myself. Someone must have linked some peeps from the chat room yesterday though, or at least so ducky claimed. I had actually wondered if you had peeked at it last night because someone announomously posted ” all of a dozen of you” on that. I have posted a couple times on the boards under different names just wanting to try to point out holes, its pretty pointless though, they don’t want to hear anything that bursts their obsession bubble. Ducky is definately grasping for straws though…most likely Catherine’s husband, prolly wanted to set up a couple different slam sites to try to broaden the appearance of the scope and people against you.

I also am not surprised no one has contacted you, its why I have laughed at them calling everyone, their silly petitions. Firstly, those kind of investigations tend to start with an undercover preliminary peeksie. Meaning they would have some underling at first poke their head in here to see if there is any kind of story or truth, no one wants to make a foll of themselves by running with something that is not solid…..and what they will find is not what is being spread around. People get what they pay for, no advice being given for people to eat nothing but grass…..and no where in the purchasing agreement does it say that people are entitled to know your bra size or choice of toilet paper. In order to have a real case, there would have to be huge lackings in what was promised, people paying and getting nothing and the like….and also there would have to be multiple medically documented cases of people being hurt or worse, and even then only if they followed the diet correctly and it happened. Also, any self-thinking investigator who goes and looks at that LCF thread and the ducky board will be able to see it is a foaming irrational mob behind this.

I had someone saying she was eating 10-15 g of fat a day in the chat room and not losing weight. I of course told her to up that, and she was like “oooh”……there also was someone who had been silently sitting in the chat room for a long time last night…bracken666 i think it was, who thought they have had an account since june, had no posts listed in their profile. I decided to address them and say hello, and bam, they signed out. Others said he/she had been in there for hours without saying anything, so just seemed odd they ran when addressed…obviously was watching. Just little things and people like that to keep an eye out, sad we have to, but needed right now I guess.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) replied:

Thanks, Del, you’re better than the FBI.

Everything you outlined for an investigation is exactly right — but I wasn’t going to bore you with the details, LOL! I’m glad you understand and you see yourself that there’s nothing hokey going on: diet, food list, support groups and nobody being told to drink Drano or gulp laxatives.

I did get an email from the Woman’s World editor. Wanted to know if we were sending mailings to members encouraging laxative abuse. Had to set her straight on what’s happening. Ducky is running out of resources — and every morning we’re still here darn it!

BTW, this probably sounds like a bribe (hey, you can blog about it!) but I appreciate you looking out for Kimkins. I’ll remember that. I believe a gift between friends is non-taxable, yes? You’ll have something to look forward to at Christmas. (theTRUTH emphasis added)

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September 27, 2007 at 6:18 pm

Kim

How paranoid are they? Someone is “lurking” and then leaves when addressed? How does the psychic not know the “lurker” wasn’t someone watching to gather info for their investigation?

September 27, 2007 at 6:25 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 6:28 pm

Dottie

“Firstly, those kind of investigations tend to start with an undercover preliminary peeksie.”

You know, there really IS a reson why it’s called “undercover”. lol…

Conspiracy occurs when there is the specific intent that a crime be performed; and there is an agreement with another person to engage in or cause that crime to be performed, and one of the conspirators commits an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy. At state and local levels, there are various degrees of conspiracy, ranging from misdemeanors to felonies, depending upon the crime that is committed. Under U.S. federal law, conspiracy is a felony.

September 27, 2007 at 6:34 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Or a person who is too shy to join or talk about their weight problem but wants to get info. What the hell?

September 27, 2007 at 6:45 pm

losingjusme

oohhhh … what’s Hidy going to send SL? A matching set of her ’striped’ PJ’s from jail?

September 27, 2007 at 6:51 pm

Princess Dieter

She’s a psychic. Why doesn’t she already know who Ducky is and who the lurker was and what Heidi’s bra size is. (50FF?) Ahem.

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 7:05 pm

trudy

They’re wrong.

Ducky = RightNow = PJ

September 27, 2007 at 7:10 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Because much like a her claim of being a diet expert, she is NOT a psychic. Remember when Ms. Cleo got arrested for being a fraud, uh…a psychic would have seen that comin’. Plus, seeing her pics, she is also not at her goal, at all. So, um…yeah Heidi, please let the blind lead the blind. I know I’ve always wanted to go to Michael Jackson for Parenting tips. Shit!

September 27, 2007 at 7:46 pm

sheridan

“Firstly, those kind of investigations tend to start with an undercover preliminary peeksie. Meaning they would have some underling at first poke their head in here to see if there is any kind of story”

What makes you think one or more of your new members *aren’t* working undercover for an agency? :-)

September 27, 2007 at 7:47 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 10:16 pm

Princess Dieter

Excuse me, but how is a psychic worth $600 bucks an hour ($10 dollars A MINUTE). Teachers, nurses, plumbers, nutritionists, construction workers, dentists, etc –ie, real jobs—do not make this. Heck, my roofer didn’t make that and roofers are in big demand post hurricanes down here in Florida. Not even doctors make that, and maybe not lawyers (I haven’t hired any, so dunno).

But Singing”I’m just here to help people”Lass thinks it is right and just and fair to charge SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR for readings. Yeah, she’s in it for the empathic love…

http://www.kasamba.com/psychicmagicsong/

No wonder she and Heidi get along so well. Online money-grubbers banding together….

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 10:35 pm

CR

I think they are all chuggin off the same jug LMAO.

September 27, 2007 at 10:56 pm

antikimkins

Interesting that SingingLass claims to have two degrees but her ass can’t spell!!!! Where did she get those degrees????? AsSeenOnTV.com????

Since we know that WW editor has contacted Kimmer with her concern — I say we all contact that editor AGAIN.

September 28, 2007 at 12:15 am

scoble

Hmmmm…opera singer, psychis, lawyer and NOW FBI/CIA/Police investigator!!! Is there no end to the list of qualifications this girl has???? Amazing!!! And she has never heard of spell check??? Hmmmm?

September 28, 2007 at 12:16 am

scoble

I meant psychic…..I HAVE heard of spell check! LOL

September 28, 2007 at 5:00 am

Mimi

Actually, we don’t “know” that the WW editor has contacted Kimmer. All we know is, Kimmer says the WW editor contacted Kimmer.

September 28, 2007 at 7:08 am

Princess Dieter

I did write the editor of WW with links to here and Christin and TRUTH and etc. I was a mite ticked, too, and forgot to proofread. Left in a couple of typos. I hope they don’t think I’m Tippy or SingingLass. Heh.

So, I guess this won’t be over until the Psychic…stops singing?

The Princess





What Will She Think of Next?

27 09 2007

Today Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) decided to share, in the Kimkins forums, her reason for sending a threatening email to Low Carb Friends member Melly and her begging others, in her signature on posts in Kimkins forums, to boycott Netrition.

Subject: Question for Tippy

Tippytoes wrote:

Yes I sure did. I have been given admin warning after warning. One was cause I said someone on the fasination thread irritated the beegeevies outta me (naming no single person). The warning said at no time can one member speak badly of another… Yet just look at what they allow to be posted about me. The last warning was because I went into one of my Kimkins friendly threads and found two hateful posts waiting for me. I publically annouced Tom had said this was not to happen and told the others there they did not have to put up with such. I publically asked the admins to move it to the F thread where it belongs. I then hit the triangles on the bottom of each to alert the admins. To my amazement I got another warning for that! It said basically not to tell the admins what to do and to be quiet and let them handle it.

There is more. I have learned who Ducky is and Ducky is in fact two of their chat admins. Comments on The Truth (what a lie, lol) made a reference to my DH needing dental work and that is why I took this job. My DH did need dental work previously and the only ones who would know was people from the last two gatherings. Most of them can be eliminated since he sat at the back table both times and spoke to no one. We did, however, have lunch out twice with the admins and did all talk then. This is how I know who Ducky is. The admins are all trying to cover for one another over Ducky and some things I refuse to mention though I should…

Yesterday I tried to log in and I am banned although I have not posted. I am banned for sending a private email to one of the Ducky teammates. You have all probably seen it by now as posted in The Suppossed truth. I told her she needed to pull the Ducky blog or the next blog would be (her name) Exposed. I assume this is why I am banned.

LCF is not what you think, people. It is not a weight loss website at all. It is a gossip pit. The admins for the most part (not all) gave up trying to lose a long time ago. I have photos as proof but have decided not to display them. Another wrong will not make this right.

All the talk of us being ban button happy and look at what just happened to me. But, I will say one thing. It is LIBERATING! I feel like a baby bird who has been kicked from the nest. Kind of frightened at first but soon to realize all I have to do is spread my wings and I can fly…

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September 27, 2007 at 5:32 pm

Kimkins Dangers

“Yesterday I tried to log in and I am banned although I have not posted. I am banned for sending a private email to one of the Ducky teammates. You have all probably seen it by now as posted in The Suppossed truth. I told her she needed to pull the Ducky blog or the next blog would be (her name) Exposed. I assume this is why I am banned.”

So, Tippy admits that she knowingly engaged in blackmail? Great stuff. Saves some legwork tracing the email.

She ain’t too bright, is she? lol

September 27, 2007 at 5:35 pm

Healthy LCer

Melly wrote this and offered to take you to dinner, Ducky..

While I would love to take credit fo Mimi and I being Ducky we both have real jobs that require way too much of our time to dedicate the time it must take to do what Ducky is doing…..but hey Ducky if you are ever in my neighborhood I will buy ya a big ole rib eye for dinner
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September 27, 2007 at 5:37 pm

Mimi

I truly believe we all need to boycott Netrition — but not for the reasons Tippy is using.

We need to demand that Netrition/LCF:
1. cease and desist the sheltering of pro-Kimkins threads and forums
2. permanently ban Heidi and her a.k.a.’s
3. appoint new Admins and Mods who are mature, polite, and fair

September 27, 2007 at 5:37 pm

The Psychic Predicts… « Kimkins Exposed

[...] Tippytoes is sure we’re admins and members from Low Carb Friends. Now, theTRUTH posted private messages [...]

September 27, 2007 at 6:17 pm

2medusa

“September 27th, 2007 at 5:37 pm

Mimi
I truly believe we all need to boycott Netrition — but not for the reasons Tippy is using.

We need to demand that Netrition/LCF:
1. cease and desist the sheltering of pro-Kimkins threads and forums
2. permanently ban Heidi and her a.k.a.’s
3. appoint new Admins and Mods who are mature, polite, and fair”

Quoted for truth.

September 27, 2007 at 6:31 pm

Mimi

Kimkins Dangers wrote:
“’Yesterday I tried to log in and I am banned although I have not posted. I am banned for sending a private email to one of the Ducky teammates. You have all probably seen it by now as posted in The Suppossed truth. I told her she needed to pull the Ducky blog or the next blog would be (her name) Exposed. I assume this is why I am banned.’
So, Tippy admits that she knowingly engaged in blackmail? Great stuff. Saves some legwork tracing the email.”

*sigh* She is making this way too easy.

September 27, 2007 at 7:50 pm

thatlittlevoiceinyourhead

I am “mimi” the lowcarb chat admin. I am not Ducky, nor am I involved in the maitenance or contents of this blog. I do not post under “mimi” here, so even if align with her opinions, please realize we are not the same mimis.

I have barely spoken to Tippy in real life. First, I met her in a restaurant, where I sat quite a ways away from her and did not converse with her during our meal. The next day I was at a picnic with her. I never recall talking to or meeting her husband. The following year, I did not attend the LCF Gathering. It is a bit of a strain for me to remember Tippy, we met so briefly. She seems to have done an amazing job with her weightloss, she looks very good to me (however she did it).

Approximately 2+ years later, out of the blue, I’m confronted with stories and accusations that I am involved in some ridiculous scheme to badmouth Tippy. From the moment I arrived on Melly’s thread she seemed very defensive of my warnings about calorie restrictive diets. And that’s okay, I know some people have to make their own mistakes. You wan’t proof? Go back and search through the Support Unlimited thread under my name. The text is right there. Tippy seemed very paranoid that what I was saying was always directed towards her. It was NOT. You can read and decide.

I am busy in my real life. I run my own business and have a second job at the moment. I have found it important to make time to help those who suffer from weight issues through LCF. I post at 1:30 am. most days, because that’s when I get home. If you bother to get to know me, you will know I am more interested in how you tick, than your dental status.

Tippy wants me to be Ducky because she no longer has a premise. When the real Ducky exposes him or herself, will Tippy extend me an apology? Well, Tippy is spreading her wings and flying at the moment…we’ll see when she lands.

September 27, 2007 at 8:07 pm

sheridan

“The admins for the most part (not all) gave up trying to lose a long time ago.”

This tickles me to no end. ROTFLMAO

“I am banned for sending a private email to one of the Ducky teammates. You have all probably seen it by now as posted in The Suppossed truth. I told her she needed to pull the Ducky blog or the next blog would be (her name) Exposed.”

Maybe you’ll get some leniency from the judge since you’ve owned up to your blackmail.

September 27, 2007 at 9:56 pm

theTRUTH

Sounds like theTRUTH is getting to that girl.

“Supposed”? Look, this is why we mostly quote things instead of posting opinion pieces. We don’t twist things or take things out of context, we EXPOSE your own stupid words and comments to the world for scrutiny. Hard to argue with your own words, you corrupt lying b!@#$. But come leave a comment on any part of our site that you deem to be a lie, and we will post those comments. Until then, shut the hell up.

September 27, 2007 at 9:57 pm

theTRUTH

Oh, and Ducky isn’t an (Admin at LCF, or even two Admins). I am Ducky.

September 27, 2007 at 10:15 pm

kkatastrophediet

“spread my wings and I can fly…” to jail!

“Comments on The Truth (what a lie, lol) ” so you’re saying the PMs didn’t ever happen?? that s/he didn’t copy and paste exact words?

Hope you’re getting paid enough “Tippy” to make up for all the fraudulence you are helping perpetuate. What are your morals worth, anyway?

September 27, 2007 at 10:28 pm

lovinlowcarb

How stupid is she?

Even if she thinks she can prove that LCF admins knew about her hubby’s teeth…that just may mean they told someone about it and that person told someone and so on…until someone told Ducky.

It doesn’t prove that the LCF admins in question “must” be Ducky, LOL.

She really is as stupid as people have said.

September 27, 2007 at 10:29 pm

CR

Dont be dissing LCF’s just because we don’t take kindly to a pack of lairs LMAO.

In my experience LCF’s is filled with wonderful loving and caring people and fair admins. I hope all the “good” ex Kimkinites come on over :)

September 27, 2007 at 11:25 pm

Gweebles

Hey Tippy. I see you on LCF with your sugary sweet advice and “support” I go out of ketosis reading it, it is so syrupy. Hate to tell you cupcake, birds get kicked from the nest, but they don’t all learn to fly. Many hit the ground with a sickening “thud”.

September 28, 2007 at 5:09 am

Mimi

Mimi, hello. I’m glad to meet you, and can confirm that indeed, you’re not me and I’m not you, LOL

However — if you’re the Admin from LCF who kept putting me on and off moderation every time I so much as uttered a peep in the Fascination thread, and sent me all those unbelievably snotty PM’s, then I really would like to take this opportunity to once again ask you (1) why you seemed to hate my guts even though I was a total newbie and (2) why you treated me with such utter rudeness even though I was doing my best to abide by the TOS — and yes, I re-read that TOS time and time again trying to figure out a reason, any reason, for your snarky behavior.

Of course, if that wasn’t you, but some other Admin there, please excuse my little rant and try to understand why I’m calling for a boycott.

September 28, 2007 at 5:10 am

Mimi

CR said: “Dont be dissing LCF’s just because we don’t take kindly to a pack of lairs.”

So Heidi and Jeannie aren’t a pack of liars? LCF has sheltered those lies for, what, going on three, four years now?