With all that happened yesterday and last night, you may have missed that theTRUTH posted private messages between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) that detailed the salary negotiation that occured prior to Tippy accepting a paid position on Kimkins.
We know for a fact that the salary Tippytoes accepted was less than previous paid staff, but Kimmer played it that she was paying Tippy well.
In a post yesterday, Kimmer Continues to Lie, “I am not Heidi”, Kimmer wrote:
The news clip me of the “diet review” done by About.com which also only parrots the anti-Kimmer blogs. No medical review. No impartiality. Hundreds of pro-Kimkins members wrote to Laura Dolson (who was impressed with their intelligence she told me), but didn’t change her review at all.
Laura Dolson, the guide for the Low Carb Diets section at About.com replied within the Kimkins forums today, her reply was removed and she was banned.
Laura Dolson wrote:
I don’t know how long this post will be up (I suspect not for long), but I wanted to take this opportunity to set the record straight regarding Kimmer’s comments about my report.
First of all, all content on About.com’s health sites goes through review.
Secondly, prior to about mid-July, I had not paid the slightest bit of attention to the “Kimkins Controversy”, but I started getting emails about whether it was a good plan, so I decided I should find out for myself. I had no investment in it one way or the other. I have given my opinion of the pros and cons of many low carb plans on my Web site. I investigated and gave an honest reporting of the diet, and my opinion about it.
After that, I had long emails with the Kimkins Public Relations Director at that time (Christin) about what were perceived to be inaccuracies in my initial report. They were issues such as whether or not Kimkins is a low fiber diet. Christin said it is not a low fiber diet because it allows foods which have fiber. I countered that since the total carb level (including fiber) is no more than 20 grams, and usually less, the fiber level must be low. That is an example of the type of discussion we had.
I was also given an invitation to visit the Kimkins site, so I was able to look for myself (which is why I am able to post this). During the conversation with Christin and my review of the site, I was only able to find two things that were inaccurate my the initial report. The first is that on some of the Kimkins plans small amounts of dairy products (yogurt and cheese) are allowed. The second is that I stated that a multi-vitamin and mineral supplement is recommended, and on the site I could only find evidence that a multivitamin is recommended. (Somewhat ironic because the Kimkins plan is even lower in minerals than in vitamins.) Since Christin assured me that somewhere on the site Kimmer did recommend a supplement that included minerals, I let that stand without comment in my update, which I wrote about 6 weeks after the initial review.
Since then I have had one email exchange with Kimmer, wherein I once again issued an invitation to correct any inaccuracies in my report. I also extend that invitation to Kimkins members reading this. However, I must say that as time goes on, I have only had further confirmation of my initial review, including a physician on the Kimkins TV news report who described it as a starvation diet.
After my first review, Kimmer asked her members to send me “proof that the diet works” (she said I wanted the emails, which was inaccurate). I did receive over 100 emails from people saying that they had lost weight, but this, of course, is not surprising. When people stop eating (or severely cut calories), they will lose weight, no doubt about it. That is not the point. During my emails with Christin, I told her of my genuine concern for her health. She assured me that she was fine – however, two months later that statement is in serious question, by her own admission. I extend my concern to all of you on the Kimkins program, especially the more severe forms. I ask you whether rapid weight loss is worth endangering your health. Is it worth muscle loss, especially heart muscle? Is it worth bone loss? You may think your health is fine, but so did Christin. How would you know? I urge you to at least take the details of what you are eating to your doctor.
I know the lure of quick weight loss is great, but your health is worth asking a lot of questions.
My very best wishes to all who read this -
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October 4, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Laura Dolson from About.com Banned at Kimkins by diet.MEDtrials.info
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October 4, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Laura Dolson
Wow, that news traveled fast!!
October 5, 2007 at 12:22 am
itscloudyinhere
October 4th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
Laura Dolson:
Wow, that news traveled fast!!
I bet you didn’t know that ducks could fly that fast! 
Just wanted to say thank you Laura for doing the investigation on that part and
thanks Ducky for posting it so quick!
October 11, 2007 at 10:39 pm
One Fab Fit Mom » Kimkins – fake diet success pictures (think Mail Order Brides)
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October 15, 2007 at 2:30 am
Weight Loss Diet » Blog Archive » Laura Dolson from About.com Banned at Kimkins
[...] Just Ducky wrote an interesting post today on Laura Dolson from About.com Banned at KimkinsHere’s a quick excerptI ask you whether rapid weight loss is worth endangering your health. Is it worth muscle loss, especially heart muscle? Is it worth bone loss? You may think your health is fine, but so did Christin. How would you know? … [...]
In an exclusive release of a detailed information from Kimkins, theTRUTH posts a message in which Kimmer continues to insist she is not Heidi Diaz, even though we all know better.
It is both shocking to see and incredibly telling about how far Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will go to continue perpetuating the lies and frauds.
Kimmer wrote:
We are surprised that the extent of their investigation was to post information from the anti-Kimmer websites. We cannot make this any more plain that I am not Heidi. She and I have been friends since high school and when I began posting on the internet nearly 10 years ago I used Heidi. As I’ve mentioned, I also use other names when writing, particularly for men’s magazines. Heidi is an owner of Kimkins.com and nothing more. How do I say this nicely? She doesn’t “care” about Kimkins. Her interests are in other areas entirely. I did not trust Catherine (former partner) and Heidi stepped in as me. She has not seen the news clip but I will be seeing her this weekend.
The news clip me of the “diet review” done by About.com which also only parrots the anti-Kimmer blogs. No medical review. No impartiality. Hundreds of pro-Kimkins members wrote to Laura Dolson (who was impressed with their intelligence she told me), but didn’t change her review at all.
Oh well, can’t win them all.
The focus of Kimkins.com has always been about weight loss. We want to keep that focus. We’ve had 3 new success stories submitted this week and CONGRATS to those members! We’ll have them up soon and thanks for your generosity in sharing to motivate others!
The Kimkins partners have formed a management group headed by Tippy Toes. All of the admins, partners, staff and I are hard at work behind the scenes making Kimkins a bigger and better site for our members. Tippy Toes has graciously accepted responsibility for coordinating everyone (when does that girl sleep) and she’s doing a stellar job!
If anyone has questions, ask an admin! Danielle & Wannabefit2 are Kimkins staffers. We appreciate the enormous amount of time all admins donate to Kimkins members. They are extremely generous people.
We’ve got some exciting features to announce very soon — all designed to help with life_style_ changes for permanent weight loss. Stay tuned!
Read the full post at theTRUTH Starts Here
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If you have not yet watched the KTLA broadcast, you can watch the video here. Tonight KTLA will broadcast part 2 at 10:00 PM PDT.
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October 3, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Cryssi
She comments in the first paragraph about it being Heidi. Then she turns around and says “In the news clip of ME…”
Which is it you big, fat, liar?????
October 3, 2007 at 4:34 pm
On the Sidelines
Ok let me get this straight. She says she is not Hedi but a size 4 girl in a red dress. Well then way did she says this:
taken from above: “The news clip ME”
Ok how can she be a size 4 girl and big the woman in the news clip.
Wake up people this woman can not keep her lies straight anymore. Please wake up before you do serious damage to yourself.
October 3, 2007 at 4:35 pm
2big4mysize
if Heidi isn’t kimmer two questions
why didi kimmers podcast with Jimmy Moore voice come out of her mouth when she said no comment?
Why didn’t she just say no I am not that woman in that pic as I am not kimmer just a chilkdhood friend and employee?
October 3, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Dottie
I am going to need a roll-eye-ectomy after this….
October 3, 2007 at 4:49 pm
mac
Kimmer with friends like who needs enemies?
October 3, 2007 at 4:49 pm
mac
oops you
October 3, 2007 at 4:53 pm
JenX
lmfao. hidey you’re finished!
October 3, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Kim
So, let’s take her at her word (yes, I’m choking as I say that)…then why doesn’t she just prove she’s not Heidi? It’s as simple as a podcast, a news story (which I’m sure the reporter doing the story right now would give her the opportunity to do just that). PROVE it instead of sitting behind your keyboard and tripping yourself up on your lies.
Heidi – You have lied SO much, nobody believes ANYTHING you say…you can’t even keep your own lies straight anymore. Your own postings prove yourself wrong – there isn’t even a need for a P.I. anymore, you prove the lies for us. All that the Ducky’s and theTRUTH’s in the world have to do is copy and paste your own posts, you prove yourself wrong everytime. Your day in court is coming and if you were EVER a foster parent or CASA, your fingerprints are on record sweety, so sitting in front of a judge and saying you aren’t Heidi Diaz won’t work, just set you up for more charges – perjury. We know the truth, you know the truth, you are just grasping at straws.
Sorry for the rant, but on top of being duped out of my hard earned money, this woman is now insulting my intelligence. It it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s certainly not a dog, it’s a duck…yes, that pun is intended! It is Heidi, we all know it – and she continues to think she is going to get away with this.
October 3, 2007 at 5:20 pm
MicheleP
Hidey:
You are a lying sack of SNATT!
October 3, 2007 at 5:41 pm
Just Ducky
We accidentally deleted a comment and aren’t sure even which post it was made to. It included links to archives of the Kimkins website prior to the changes now underway. If that person can repost, it would be greatly appreciated.
October 3, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Kim
Tippy toes and management used together in the same sentence is just plain hilarious!!!
Does anybody know if anyone has posted or tried to post the link to the newscast on Kimkins today?
October 3, 2007 at 5:50 pm
itscloudyinhere
What will happen when Heidi is ordered by the court to produce kimmer and she can’t/won’t?
October 3, 2007 at 5:53 pm
itscloudyinhere
Remember that psychopaths don’t break even when they’re caught.
They typically try to befriend the police and detectives as someone who’s “not-guilty-just-trying-to-be-a-helpful-citizen” would.
October 3, 2007 at 6:59 pm
jwc
I just hope they don’t try to put Kimmer and Heidi in separate jail cells. Could get messy.
October 3, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Stiff
Heidi was her cousin, then her friend, then some random business partner, etc…pleaaaaaaaaaase.
Why would you be partner in something you care nothing about? It happens when big bucks are made and complicated projects arise, but it’s a diet site that apparently all you have to do is sit at your keyboard all day to control. I don’t think that comment is CLOSE to making sense about Heidi not caring.
ALL before pictures match with Heidi. The fun part is that Kimmers old avatar on LCF is the same person in the before pictures/dating site pictures of Heidi…which is the same person in Kimmer’s before picture…
….yeaaaaah.
How can someone be so dumb? She doesn’t follow the diet so obviously doesn’t have light-headedness, nausea, or brain damage…except maybe from staring at the screen all day…
“I did not trust Catherine (former partner) and Heidi stepped in as me”
Does that just not add up to anyone else?
October 3, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Dottie
Catherine never met kimmer/heidi, so that’s just an off-the-wall claim anyway.
October 3, 2007 at 10:11 pm
antikimkins
Right, Stiff, yet she has also claimed that Heidi knows nothign about Kimkins and doesn’t care, she just collects the money. So how would Heidi “step in for her” without any Kimkins knowledge?
And IF IF IF IF Heidi and Kimmer were two different peeps (and pigs really do fly) why doesn’t Heidi just whip out Kimmer’s pic and say, “look, HERE”s the woman in the red dress who lost all the weight, this is Kimmer!” She doesn’t even try to defend herself. If that was MY friend and she was the one who lost the weight but I was bankrolling the business, I’d sure put her face on everything and make it clear that she was the success story. I wouldn’t run and hide and say No Comment.
Sheesh, people, wake up!!!
October 3, 2007 at 10:12 pm
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October 4, 2007 at 1:07 am
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October 4, 2007 at 2:28 am
Jazzy
Kimmer’s ‘before’ picture is without a doubt the same woman that Kimmer claims is Heidi.
So…she used a picture of Heidi as her before picture and then her own picture as her after picture??? Does she even know what she’s saying anymore.
How can anyone read that explanation and still believe her?
October 4, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Not Heidi Either
Kimmer isn’t Heidi?
Who cares? We’ll take Heidi. We can prove Heidi started Kimkins, we can prove she’s taking money for it, hiring the admins, paying for the server. She is Kimkins. If she’s not Kimmer, who cares, she’s as culpable and guilty as Kimmer then. If Kimmer has done such a good job pretending to be Heidi, then Heidi will not be able to prove she’s *not* Kimmer.
Let Heidi take the fall for you, Kimmer, we don’t care. We’ll take her and let her pay for your mistakes. She won’t be able to avoid paying for them because she won’t be able to prove she’s not Kimmer unless you come forward and then we have you.
WIN-WIN. For us. Either we, we got ya (or Heidi). 
October 4, 2007 at 7:09 pm
Laura Dolson from About.com Banned at Kimkins « Kimkins Exposed
[...] dangers, kimkins dieting, kimkins exposed, kimkins fraud, laura dolson In a post yesterday, Kimmer Continues to Lie, “I am not Heidi”, Kimmer wrote: The news clip me of the “diet review” done by About.com which also only [...]
This morning, after KTLA’s segment last night, featuring Kimkins as an ‘internet scam’, Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is downplaying the significance of the broadcast and remains calm and cool to members.
With no remorse or explanation about the broadcast, Kimmer is posting away in an attempt to quiet any questioning, and banning members who dare speak up.
On the thread ‘Ask Kimmer’ a member wrote:
Just want to publicly throw in my two cents about all the controversy swirling around us. I know you would get a lot of flack if you did this, Kimmer, but–I wouldn’t care a bit if you took out all the negative stuff. I think the time for reaction to and self-_expression_ regarding all the people leaving, the lawsuit, etc. needs to have run its course. Those of us who are trying to focus on the program keep running into all that “stuff” on just about every thread we turn to. Enough is enough!
Kimmer replied:
I know. We’re doing our best to keep it off the site. People who enjoy reading it can find it at 1,001 other places. Meanwhile, stay focused, do your work, let your body show you what it can do!
On another thread, Kimmer wrote:
Maybe I can shed some light?
The point of this website — the entire reason it exists — is to help people lose weight. When there’s interference with that intent, we take action. Whether that is banning troublemakers or removing elements that distract from our purpose, we do it.
Personally I don’t like negativity on this site. I’ve said it a thousand times and I still mean it. If anyone is unhappy or disillusioned, there are a ton of other websites to vent your feelings. Or, start an anti-Kimmer blog like the “popular kids”. Sorry, bad humor. Everyone is 100% to their opinion. Absolutely. Just take the negative opinions elsewhere.
Or, you could just lose weight?
Those of you who have been members since the website started have seen regular changes to the front page. I think we are on #5 “facelift”? Our graphic guys get bored and every few months they get an urge to make changes. Unfortunately, this change was stopped midway. The brother of our lead graphic person is having open heart surgery and the balance of the design changes have been postponed a few days.
They’ve got ideas for another front page change a few months from now. It’s the nature of the beast.
And on yet another thread, inquiring about the removal of success stories from the site, Kimmer wrote:
I’m right here!
We are renovating the front page. We needed more space on the top menu bar so some elements were removed. Success stories are still there in photo form on the right side and expanded to show 5 at a time. We’ll be adding 3 new success stories this week!
The naysayers would love for me to chat on … so I won’t. We’ve got some new support resources for members coming up, too! Keep an eye out!
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If you have not yet watched the KTLA broadcast, you can watch the video here. Tonight KTLA will broadcast part 2 at 10:00 PM PDT.
This evening KTLA News in Los Angeles featured a segment exposing the Kimkins fraud.
Go WATCH THE VIDEO.
Stay tuned tomorrow for part 2, with more information about the lawsuit.
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TRANSCRIPT (hat tip to Low Carb Friends member)
Leila And now a KTLA exclusive for you. The founder of a popular internet diet is facing tough questions. Is she actually who she says she is?
Emmet Chip Yost has been investigating this intriguing case joins us now with more, Chip.
Chip: Leila and Emmet, the kimkins diet has taken off on the internet. It’s based on a mixture of a couple of diets, most notably the Atkins diet. Its success can largely be traced to the amazing claims of the diet’s founder. A woman known as “the Kimmer”. But what we and others found, is that “the Kimmer’s” claims may not be all they’re cracked up to be.
Chip:“Ma’am can you look at this picture I’m showing you.” [kimmer in the car]
Why is this woman in such a hurry to get away from us? The answer starts at this website, kimkins.com. It’s a website that says if you buy a lifetime membership for $59.95 and follow the kimkins diet, you can lose more than 2 pounds a week, with no exercise. The diet is named after the website’s founder. A woman known as “the Kimmer”. This was supposedly “the Kimmer” before the diet. This is what she says she looked like 11 months later. After dramatically losing 198lbs on her diet. [images of the website and her blue flowery before shot, and red dress shot ]
Heidi (HBGal) And I was really happy for her, cause I felt like I kinda knew her. Umm, So I went over and I joined. [Heidi (HBGirl) interviewed ]
Chip: Heidi [HBGirl] who lives in southern California was sold. She signed up, and thousands of others did too. [Heidi(HBGirl) walking outside] Especially after many of them saw the diet featured in a woman’s world magazine cover story. Inside the magazine, Kimmer’s story was told again. Alongside the story of another woman who lost weight on the kimkins diet. But unlike the other dieter, who posed for pictures, Kimmer wasn’t interviewed in person. In fact, it seemed no one in the dieting world had ever really seen her in person. [shots of the ww article] Even heidi [HB girl] tried to meet up with her when she found out they lived only a few miles apart.
Heidi (HBGal) “She always had an excuse, something with her kids, or she was doing something or another.” [Heidi (HB Girl) at computer]
Chip: Suspicions began floating. Is kimmer really that lady in the red dress? [red dress] A former business partner of Kimmer who also had never met her in person, decided to hire private investigator Bob Charlton of Alliance Investigative Services to find out who Kimmer really was. [images from surveillance of green van] Charlton knew Kimmer’s real name was Heidi Diaz and that she lived in Corona. But when he finally found her, he was in for a shock. He realised she wasn’t that thin woman in the red dress. Charlton’s investigation found that Heidi “Kimmer” Diaz was really this woman. [images from surveillance of Kimmer at petrol pump, and at store] Chip: “And is Heidi Diaz as far as you know the Kimmer?”
Charlton: “Yes, from kimkins.com” [charlton being interviewed]
Chip: Charlton’s pictures were posted on the internet. [images of slamboard] Kimkins members were in a huff, they thought they had been taken. The Better Business Bureau offered to meet with kimmer to settle the dispute. But they too were turned down
BBB “Because she claims that she’s ahh you know, a bit shy” [BBB guy being interviewed]
Chip: Finally we decided to go to Heidi Diaz or Kimmer’s apartment ourselves to see if she would clear things up [garage underneath kimmer's apartment trying to interview Heidi] Chip: “are you actually the person that’s been claiming to be kimmer on the kimkins.com website.”
Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) “No comment”
Chip: “Ma’am have you been lying to people about who you are. Ma’am, we just want to clear some things up. Are you actually Kimmer? Have you been telling people this picture is you? Can you look through the window Ma’am. Ma’am can you look at this picture I’m showing you? [Heidi gets back in car and drive's off to avoid reporter]She didn’t answer our questions, but Heidi Diaz may soon have to answer questions before a court.
Chip: Tomorrow night we’ll tell you why a class action lawsuit is about to be filed against her, and why some members claim her diet is causing them all kinds of health problems. And one other note I should mention Emmet and Leila the picture of the lady in the red dress was taken off the website over the weekend.
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October 3, 2007 at 6:59 am
2big4mysize
woo hoo and a big thank you to LCFs HBGAL for getting the story on camera. doesn’t she look great!!!!
October 3, 2007 at 7:05 am
Kimmerexia
October 3, 2007 at 7:25 am
emeraldskye
HBGAL, you looked absolutely gorgeous! Vindication feels soooo good.
“No comment”, hah! That said it all. How perfect that Jimmy has HER voice on the podcast.
October 3, 2007 at 7:29 am
Sue
This has put a smile on face!!
October 3, 2007 at 8:26 am
honeybeesblog
HB you looked great! Thank you for being on camera and representing those of us who were taken in by Kimmer’s Fraud.
Jeanessa I know you are getting your money back but thank you for organizing the lawsuit for all of us that wanted to participate.
Martin and Catherine thank you for starting the ball rolling and getting the PI hired.
Ducky and all the other bloggers who played such an important roll thank you for keeping us informed and doing it all above board.
I know there were many more who have done so much. I realize this isn’t over with yet, but it certainly feels good to know the information is circulating beyond our internet world here.
Happy Dance time!!!!
October 3, 2007 at 8:33 am
Princess Dieter
I watched it five times. No, seriously, it’s beeeeyoooootiful. Can’t wait for the next installment.
Very cool to actually SEE the surveillance shots in the store and gas station. And how great was seeing Heidi’s frozen smile when Chip approached with camera and microphone.
Was that a BMW she was driving?
The Princess<–who hears a chorus of ducks quacking with delight
October 3, 2007 at 9:38 am
On the Sidelines
I am so glad they finally put something on tv about this scammer. TT and other admins better renounce Kimkins/Kimmer and jump ship while they might still have a chance. Kimmer is going down big time. I hope this station keeps us update with any future developments.
October 3, 2007 at 9:52 am
MicheleP
This was the best birthday present I have ever received!!! Thank you!
October 3, 2007 at 10:29 am
angie
HBGAL, you rawk. What a great thing to wake up to. Tears of joy here!!! Also, HBGAL you are beautiful.
October 3, 2007 at 10:30 am
NicoleW
Just had to delurk and say that that’s brilliant. It can be so hard to get media to sit up and take notice of online scams … congratulations to everyone who made this happen.
October 3, 2007 at 10:37 am
jenx
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 3, 2007 at 11:17 am
The Unblog » Kimmer makes the news
[...] It was only a matter of time. A local California TV station, KTLA, reported on the Kimkins Diet Fraud yesterday. Part two airs tonight. [...]
October 3, 2007 at 11:21 am
Dottie
That looked like the same place the PI got the pics at, I thought she’d moved? Or did she move after this reporter found her?
October 3, 2007 at 12:01 pm
MrsA
This is awesome!
October 3, 2007 at 12:58 pm
On the Sidelines
I am emailing all my local stations about this story to help get it exposure. I am on the east coast. Everyone needs to email thier local stations so the word gets out about this woman.
October 3, 2007 at 1:04 pm
Princess Dieter
In her capacity as P.R. person for Kimkins, Tippy Toes really needs to address this new development. It simply cannot go unanswered by the Minister of Making Things Up To Make Kimkins Look Good.
Come on, Tips. We’re listening… 
The Princess
October 3, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Just one more dupe
A post was sent to the KK site with the link….but it seems to have gone poof!! But that’s okay, I have it in my inbox…
October 3, 2007 at 1:44 pm
theTRUTH
Now you all know what the winking and evil grins were all about…
October 3, 2007 at 1:52 pm
TerryC
This is absolutely fabulous!!! I know things have been going on behind the scenes that the average kk fraud victims don’t know about, so it is really nice to start seeing a payoff.
October 3, 2007 at 1:53 pm
Kasey aka Harlow aka SinKitty
Well, I am glad word is getting out. This may save lives.
October 3, 2007 at 1:55 pm
Violet Skye
I KNEW that those winks weren’t just to have some fun on a Friday! The Kimmer must be all a-twitter now that the SNATT has hit the fan. BTW, in case anyone is thinking that KTLA is just a local station, they aren’t – I have this station as part of my cable package, in Canada. So word is getting around verrrrry quickly!
Thanks galore to everyone who has participated in this worthwhile exercise.
October 3, 2007 at 2:02 pm
Kim
This was SOOOO well worth the wait!!!!
October 3, 2007 at 2:07 pm
flowerpower
Does anyone know the date the tv film was made?
Kimmer has certainly lost a bunch of weight since the PI photos in mid-August.
Do you think Kimmer’s doctor approves of her diet?
October 3, 2007 at 2:09 pm
Kim
Hey! Was that WHOLE milk in her shopping cart too? She’s not even TRYING to lose weight even in a non-LC way.
October 3, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Stiff
I can TOTALLY see this going HUGE!!! I’m so excited!!!! I woke up my friend and was freaking out happy!!!!
October 3, 2007 at 2:24 pm
Stiff
I LOVE the fact that she’s got whole milk in her cart!!!
October 3, 2007 at 2:26 pm
La Mesa
OMG YES YES YES YES
October 3, 2007 at 2:29 pm
Lisa J
She did lose alot of weight. I amd sad this all happened this way…
Kimmer
I cannot believe I too was banned for questioning this story…
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Good luck Kimmer…..nice beemer
October 3, 2007 at 2:29 pm
La Mesa
OMG Did I mention…. YES YES YES!!!!!!!!
October 3, 2007 at 3:19 pm
itscloudyinhere
Good job everyone!
Kudos to those who showed their mugs on TV. HbGal, you look great!
October 3, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Just one more dupe
“Does anyone know the date the tv film was made?
Kimmer has certainly lost a bunch of weight since the PI photos in mid-August.
Do you think Kimmer’s doctor approves of her diet?”
I wonder if she has been “laying low” trying to do her diet…so she came come out and say “wha–laa everyone was wrong”….hmm, just wasn’t working as fast for her as she hoped??
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We are told she was approached for comment by Chip Yost this past weekend.
October 3, 2007 at 3:22 pm
Kristine
As we say in Canada, f***in’ EH!
October 3, 2007 at 3:24 pm
Julie
What a great day!
October 3, 2007 at 3:41 pm
anonymouse
Now THAT is freakin’ AWESOME.
October 3, 2007 at 4:19 pm
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October 3, 2007 at 4:32 pm
ghoov
OMG
Yup, it does appear that the “SNATT has hit the fan”
October 3, 2007 at 4:54 pm
finleysmom
WOOOO HOOOO! You all rock!
October 3, 2007 at 5:02 pm
HBGal
Thank you, everyone! Your comments are very sweet and have made my entire year!
October 3, 2007 at 7:28 pm
limegreen260
Just thought I’d point out that Kimmer was driving a new Nissan Altima not a BMW. Bought with “blood money.”
October 3, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Concerned about kimkins
Ducky the bbb has downgraded her to a d now. Did we already know this?
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Old news, reported it last week. Thanks for the info though, if it wasn’t known it would be a good lead to post about.
October 3, 2007 at 8:54 pm
Concerned about kimkins
Man my head is just spinning today so I went to see what they had to say about it and I thought the last we knew she was a cc. Damn. Sorry. Thanks for all you do!
October 3, 2007 at 11:51 pm
antikimkins
Is there anything lower than a D? Can she get an E or an F?
October 4, 2007 at 9:14 pm
VP Health & Fitness | Exclusive!!! Kimkins exposed on TV!!!
[...] Transcript of Video on “Kimkins Exposed” Blog [...]
In an attempt to set the record straight, after this mornings accusation that members with health problems can only blame themself, Christin speaks out in her newest post on the matter of calories recommended by Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) when she was following the Kimkins diet. [We have edited out the screenshots from Christin's site]
Written by Christin:
It has recently been suggested that people such as myself abused the Kimkins plan by cutting our calories to unhealthy levels on our own in opposition of the true intent of the plan. I am sorry to say that this is not true.
Tippy said: “I think it was well said previously that Kimkins diet has been abused by some members at their own doings who now point the finger in blame towards us.” This statement is incorrect. This is the way we were instructed to follow the plan “correctly.”
It saddens and sickens me to admit this about myself, but I feel that I must share in order to bring to light proof of the eating disordered behavior that I not only engaged in, but was encouraged in.
February 14, 2007 – I wrote:
“TOPIC: Kimmer, Becky, anyone!! Check my Fitday please – I need help!!!!”
I have been pretty much stalled all month. I’m under a lot of stress here at home w/ my daycare, but I don’t know if that would contribute or not. I’ve been K/E pretty much for the most part w/ a few Kimkins days here and there. Is my body just confused by my mixing it up?? I try to drink 40-80oz of water a day on top of what is here and every now and then I do drink a diet soda, but I get the sodium free splenda sweetened ones. Please help!!!! I have got to get to goal!!!!
EDITED OUT FITDAY SCREENSHOT
Average Calories: 377 Fat: 11g Carbs: 8g Protein: 58g
By all indications medically and scientifically, I was in actuality, starving. I was showing very clear signs of grossly anorexic behavior. However, in my zeal to lose and blind faith in a program that I believed I was utilizing “perfectly” I failed to see the warning signs my own body was giving me.
Kimmer replied:
Your calories are low, protein good, but I have questions about whether quantities are accurate if you’re not using a food scale and some days are missing.
Be sure of measurements. How do you figure .1 cup of salsa? .1 cup of olives? .1 cup of shredded cheese?
Skip all sausage, even turkey, if you’re not losing
Skip bacon
Skip pork roast
Skip pastramiWhat are you using to weigh protein like 2 oz, 3 oz? Use specific ounces, not “1 serving”
Measure coffee mug, very few are 8 oz, most are 12-16 oz
Keep veggie limits to 3 cups raw or 2 + .5 cup cooked. How did you measure .75 cup of cooked cabbage?
Egg beaters, 1 cup? That’s quite a bit. Better to have fewer eggs & an extra salad serving or lettuce roll-up.
I have to ask — what’s with all the egg whites? And what do you do with the yolks?
Christin:
Kimmer thank you so much for checking this out for me. In answer to your questions. As far as the .1 cup thing – I couldn’t find an option for a tsp measurement on those and I wanted to have it in there… so that’s my best guess for the amt.
I have a food scale that I use to measure ounces and that’s what I’ve used.
The 1 serving thing… those are individual servings _base_d on the packaging when they don’t give me the ounces. Do I need to measure them anyways? I’m just going by the serving size (ie 1 piece).
I had a feeling about the pork roast thing… my SIL wanted German for her bday and that was the ONLY thing I could find on their menu that was remotely close to plan – that’s where the cabbage was too… (sauerkraut, but fitday doesn’t have that, so I know the sodium was WAY up there that day) The serving they put on the plate was aprox 1 cup. I didn’t eat the whole thing, but I’m pretty sure I ate more that
1/2 cup so that’s why I did the .75. It was an estimate since we were out and I couldn’t measure exactly.I’ve decided to cut coffee all together for a while to see if that helps pick it up… Pray for me, it’s going to be VERY difficult.
I was doing the EW challenge that’s what all the EW is for… higher protein less fat… forgive me but I throw the yolk out. I’m looking for boxed EW so that it will be a bit easier… But i’m out of pretty much everything so I’m having to make do with what I can till I get to the grocery store.
Thanks for your suggestions, anything else?
Kimmer:
Christin, you did really good at a German restaurant! My family is German and, yikes! Yeah, that meal will mess with your progress because restaurants do things to enhance their food — but it didn’t trigger a binge and you enjoyed family time!
No need to weigh prepackaged stuff, but is anything you could substitute the sausages with? Even diced chicken chunks? I still cook up 2 breasts (various spices), dice into “dice” size squares and keep them in a Gladware bowl in the fridge. I grab a couple whenever I want a quick snack.
If you’re a fish fan, there’s a whole ’sea’ world. Sea World, get it — I’m so funny (not!)
Christin, you’re doing good and you’ve lost soooo much! Keep it up, it will come. Maybe try limiting protein to 3 oz portions, you can always get more if you need/want it.
Or, my sister’s favorite “snack” during her weight loss. The romaine lettuce roll ups. Layout a big leaf, lay 1 slice of Oscar Meyer sliced sandwich ham, either a squirt of mustard or a drizzle of salsa, roll up & eat — 10 calories. (emphasis mine)
Not only were my low calories praised and encouraged, but I was encouraged to cut even more than what I already was consuming on a diet of primarily egg whites which had received full blessing as well. I did not “abuse” the plan.
True that no one forced me to eat this way, or told me that I must follow everything that Kimmer said. But, when you feel as though you’ve been handed the keys to true permanent weight loss, and you are so close to achieving that goal, it is difficult not to be blinded by your own aspirations, especially when receiving such encouragement. I was affirmed that I was doing exactly what I was supposed to be doing.
I used the plan. Plain and simple.
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October 2, 2007 at 7:25 pm
2big4mysize
wow dang Kimmershe was telling her to eat even less???
BTW a tsp is 1/3th of a tablespoon which is 1/16th of a cup so it would be 1/48th of a cup or .02083 even less then Christen posted she had eatten.
October 2, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Christin Speaks Out About Advice She Received From Kimmer by diet.MEDtrials.info
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October 2, 2007 at 8:09 pm
Kim
TT is pointing the finger about how not following the plan and related health problems are the persons fault…funny words coming from someone who promotes the diet, but yet admits openly she follows Atkins more than Kimkins.
October 2, 2007 at 11:17 pm
Concerned about kimkins
Well that’s further proof Tippy is a douce bag. This is a sad event. And I still believe SL is a big fat liar!
October 2, 2007 at 11:19 pm
Concerned about kimkins
awe man fix the spelling error I meant DOUCHE bag
October 3, 2007 at 1:09 am
Princess Dieter
Tippy is the DO AS I SAY not DO AS I DO promoter of Kimkins. She doesn’t do Kimkins. She tweaks Kimmer’s Grand Starving Scheme so otehrs don’t do Kimkins. But man, she wants the name and site intact so she can get those Kimkins CHECKS.
How much does a soul go for over at Kimkins dot come these days?
The Princess
October 3, 2007 at 3:29 am
ghoov
OMG, I don’t know how Cristin could have eaten so few calories and fat. I would have gone stark raving mad.
It’s amazing that Kimmer would suggest that she go lower than that…actually, it’s just sad and I really feel bad that Cristin is experiencing so may problems after following the Kimkins plan.
October 3, 2007 at 4:02 am
KN
Thanks Christin for that example of Kimmer exalting “Very Low Calories”. Also, I wanted to let people know that its worth clicking on the link to Christin’s blog to read Becky’s comments…..very powerful. Shame, shame on Heidi Diaz and Tippy!!!!
November 12, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Sara
If you want to loose weight then do it the real way! Go to a dietician, go to your doctor, why would you all be so stupid to even trust some stupid diet. Of course you are all the ones who have tried other fad diets. None of you should be able to blame anyone other than yourself. You are all uneducated idiot consumers. All diet fads are like this, learn to check your sources, and make an appointment with your doctor or a nutritionist. That is how you really loose weight. Go join a gym.
In our comments, Becky (former admin Littlebit) commented about Kimmer’s private emails to her regarding very low calorie intake.
Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) wrote:
Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.
Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is “high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight loss will be different. Don’t forget people who dabble in days of fasting, too.
If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else, maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was their weight loss accomplished by methods we would want to follow? Many people on this site have a problem with very low calories and refuse.
In a ridiculous explanation about monitoring of private messages sent between members, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) had this to say about the matter.
Tippytoes wrote:
The reason for the PM’s being monitored is to find the sources who are hacking in by simply reading…
We are making this known to you so that there is no misunderstanding later.
As far as who is reading them, I will not say for protection of that admin. That admin has a job to do for the good of this site and the good of its members. Nothing more, nothing less. The same admin has been very busy uncovering a lot elsewhere and bit by bit we are winning this war.
I am hoping we will not need to do this forever. But we have to face facts here. The hackers came on to this site with harm’s intent. They did PM to each other and we know this now. So this is why we are monitoring and what we hope to stop.
Again, we apologize but feel we must take this action.
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October 2, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Kim
But yet didn’t all the previous posts say that nobody had access to PM’s? So now, they are being monitored and they’re tryint to justify why.
October 2, 2007 at 3:07 pm
TerryC
So the hackers are getting into KK and sending each other pm’s? Now why would they do such a stupid thing? Why didn’t they just call each other? So many questions.
October 2, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Anonymous
Um… weren’t the PMs accessible to admins *before* they started showing up on the internet?
October 2, 2007 at 4:29 pm
sandsandles
The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.
OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.
Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.
If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.
October 2, 2007 at 4:30 pm
sandsandles
… sorry, posted the cruise comment under wrong topic… but still applies!
October 2, 2007 at 5:06 pm
ixtapacheryl
OMG! I can’t believe those remaining members are buying that excuse! Those poor people can’t even share with one another their outside e-mail addresses. Why won’t Heidi/TT allow that?
October 2, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Julie
Okay, so the hackers are supposed to be smart enough to hack into the system and read the PMs but too stupid to realize that someone else might be reading their PMs.
And this is what people are supposed to believe? Seriously? What kind of logic is that?
October 2, 2007 at 8:23 pm
theTRUTH
If she wants war, I have plenty of “ammo” saved up…
October 2, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Princess Dieter
Well, there was no WAR before and all the admins and Heidi/Kimmer had free access to read PMs. Why doesn’t that scare members?
And then it came down to only Heidi and one admin having access, cause, well, “Kimmer” stopped trusting the others?
And now it’s being monitored cause of hackers?
My advice to Kimkinettes: Flee. How can you trust anything the rulership at Kimkins says? Even when they go back and say, “All is well. PMs are private,” well, you know they WON’T BE, cause they NEVER WERE. Heidi/Kimmer wouldn’t tolerate not being able to see everything going on in her kingdom. FLEE.
The Princess
October 3, 2007 at 3:34 am
ghoov
An admin of a Forum should never have reason to read PM’s, it’s none of their business. Yes, it is their site but still it’s wrong… unless they put it in writing in the TOS. Anyone know if it’s in the TOS?
Ah well perhaps after they read this, it will magically appear – get some screenshots people.
October 3, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Sarah van
What an idiot. It’s not “hacking” if you have a paid membership and access to the forum. That is, after all, what you pay MONEY for. If you don’t want to post and instead just use the IM function, that’s your right.
October 5, 2007 at 10:16 pm
claudia
What a shame all this has happened. Shame for the members, shame for the dieters, shame for the implicated admins and mods and, yes, shame for kimmer.
Just to state my position: I’m not a kimmer supporter. I am, however, a kimkins supporter. There is no doubt that that regime has helped many people lose weight both at kimmers and at lowcarbfriends.
I won’t sport with anyone’s intelligence by supporting the insupportable however as anyone considered that kimmer herself probably got caught in her own celebrity?
She went from doyen of diet on LCF to Empress Protein on kimkins. A heady ride for anyone, let alone someone who may not be intellectually, emotionally or psychiatrically equipped. Seems to me, she got strapped into the ride as much as anyone.
The fact that she’s now overweight (I do believe that she lost all that weight originally but gained it back, probably through eating to ameliorate the feelings she has about being a criminal) doesn’t take away from the fact that many people have lost, and continue to lose, weight on kimkins.
And people forgotten the years and years she spent on lowcarbfriends tirelessly and pleasantly helping people. It seems incongrous and quite barely believable that she intentionally, five years out, decided to become “kimmer”, the wonder dieter, with the long-term view of $40 per subscriber.
I think she started her own site and voila! it became something extraordinary. From there, she made some really dreadful decisions which culminated in her being America’s No.1 Most Wanted – Internet Division.
Can you imagine the pressure? Even if she has, as has been speculated, a sociopathic personalithy disorder, she must be close to break down or worse.
Her most foolish mistake was to continue to stuff down doughnuts whilst she espoused contrary principals. I can’t even imagine what kind of aridity that produces in a person, although I guess all those subscription fees will should cheer her up!
Had she fessed up and told everyone she’d fallen off the wagon then she wouldn’t be potentially going to gaol.
This morning, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) is digging in and trying to explain the changes made to the homepage of the Kimkins website. In it, she lays blame for health problems on those following the Kimkins plans.
Tippytoes wrote:
What happened to Kimmer’s Red Dress Picture?
We are making many new and positive changes to this site every single day. We have chosen to remove the red dress photo and in place use People magazine. Too much contravery surrounds that pic and rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it. The success stories are still there although someone else did ask me where they went. I checked and they are there. Not sure if this is a tech glitch or not. But I can look further into it. Does anyone else not see them?
I think it was well said previously that Kimkins diet has been abused by some members at their own doings who now point the finger in blame towards us. We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own. We do not promote starvation, laxitive abuse or any of the like and we are making this clear. There will always be room for improvements and we are always willing to make them. We have even introduced a cycle option as part of the positive change and to help transition towards maintenance later.
We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff. However, rest assured we have some new gathering ideas in the works for next year. What we have in mind will be better and will geer more in tuned with Kimkins diets than an all you can eat fest cruise. I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.
The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here. We have a walk for breast cancer coming up and I will be posting more soon. In addition we are considering a fundraiser challenge to benefit Toys For Tots. Members participating would make and pay their own pledges directly to Toys For Tots. There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.
So hang tight, my fellow Kimkinettes! Change is GOOD!
I want you all to not be afraid to see positive changes being made. This only means we are here to stay and getting better all the time.
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October 2, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Dottie
“rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it.”
But of course… much easier just to pretend it never existed.
“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”
Melt’s contribution to the renovations?
October 2, 2007 at 2:37 pm
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October 2, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Kimmerexia
Tippytoes sez: “We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own.”
No need to “abuse” Kimkins. At 500 to 1,000 calories, it’s already starvation!!!
Tippytoes spins: “We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard [SIC] for Kimkins members as well as staff.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wouldn’t have anything to do with Regandy, the cruise organizer, jumping ship from the sinking good ship Kimtanic, would it? Noooooooooo, of course not!!!
Tippytoes defines: “Kimkinettes!”
Ah, so THAT’S what the remaining smattering of duped sugar-free kool-aid drinking minions are officially called.
Tippytoes pathetically optimistically quips: “The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here.”
Yes indeed. The lawsuits, governmental investigations and transitioning former KimkinETTES from starvation to healthful ways of eating is gonna be a friggin’ laugh a minute.
October 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Kim
“I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.”
Don’t trust the members to make their own decisions on what they eat? Why not tell the real reason….Heidi still wouldn’t show her face and too many questions were asked about it, so it was decided to just remove all info and hope they’ve banned everyone who knew about Heidi’s refusal.
October 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Becky/Littlebit
Members abusing the plan and eating low calories against Kimmer” will?
This is typical “blame the victim” abusive thinking.
Anyone who has been around Kimkins for long knows that ultra-low calories was always Kimmer’s intention. It is precisely what makes it Kimkins, not Atkins.
When I was on Boot Camp, exercising, eating an average of 465 calories a day, and stalled, and had the nerve to complain about it and decide to increase my fats, Kimmer’s emailed response was (and i quote):
“Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in
calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.
Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is
“high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the
Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight
loss will be different. Don’t forget people who
dabble in days of fasting, too.
If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else,
maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was
their weight loss accomplished by methods we would
want to follow? Many people on this site have a
problem with very low calories and refuse. “
October 2, 2007 at 3:20 pm
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October 2, 2007 at 3:36 pm
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October 2, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Kimmerexia
Funny that Tippytoes doesn’t refer to the pic as “Kimmer’s AFTER picture.”
No, it’s referred to as “the red dress picture” because even Jeannie Baitinger, Director of Public Relations for Kimkins doesn’t believe that it could possibly Kimmer’s AFTER picture.
October 2, 2007 at 4:31 pm
regandy
The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.
OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.
Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.
If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.
October 2, 2007 at 4:42 pm
anani
I am sick beyond words that Tippy would put the blame on the members for taking the diet to extremes. The extreme nature of this diet was carefully coached and taught by Kimmer herself. The following is a direct copy of Kimmer’s words to a newbie. I have the screen shot to back this up if it is ever needed.
Member asks Kimmer:
I’m new here – just started yesterday.
Which plan is designed for the fastest weight loss results?
I’m on KE and don’t have a problem with it. I was looking at Boot Camp and wondering is it’s designed for quicker weight loss results?
Thanks!!
Kimmer’s response:
The very fastest would be the Meal Replacement Shake option because there’s no chance of messing up. 450 calories a day, that’s it.
Second is Boot Camp because the protein and salads are limited, but someone could still pick a higher calorie protein by accident.
K/E was originally the fastest, but it’s not always anymore because some people tend to be creative about what a “lean” protein is plus overeating with too big portions or small snacks all day .
Kimkins is the slowest and still way faster than any other non-Kimkins plan except water fasting.
Another Member asks:
Hi Kimmer
You just posted a relpy that the Replacement Shake option is 450 caloris a day but when I look at the plan under KIMKINS Diet Plans it says 800 calories a day. Which is correct?
Kimmer’s response:
It would be 800 if you choose 200 calorie shakes and 4 per day. Personally, as long as I’m doing shakes (which are not incredibly exciting anyway), I’d find a 150 calorie version and limit to 3 (skipping a snack shake).
But I’m impatient.
October 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm
ixtapacheryl
“A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory”
OMG more fund raisers? No cruise scheduled because of safety issues?
October 2, 2007 at 5:05 pm
Stiff
So, this morning Yahoo greeted me with these articles:
http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19365/6-diets-to-avoid
http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19885/the-skinny-on-4-fad-diets;_ylt=AtuWsn6WiXWM8xqU5xWQeuka788F
Mmmmmmmm I smell Kimkins in those guidelines…
October 2, 2007 at 5:17 pm
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October 2, 2007 at 5:26 pm
Stiff
“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”
This really makes me laugh after Melt/Kimmer PM about animals.
October 2, 2007 at 6:16 pm
cando
I can’t believe this. Back in June when I posted on that site I was having “potty problems” I was told to try Exlax by several memebers and Kimmer. Becky Lil Bit came through with the suggestion of Smooth Move tea, which is herbal. I went with Becky’s suggestion and another one of two stalks of celery a day…that worked. ’cause I know that Exlax used on a regular basis can really mess you up big time.
But until people started complaining, they were promoting laxatives as a way of life. It seem to me that when I first joined, all people were eating on that site were eggwhites and Exlax. Back in my 20’s, I went on an Exlax, Dr. Pepper, M&M’s and cigerette diet for about a month, Lost tons of weight.
Man, I need to get me a web site and start sellin’ that. It was way more fun than egg whites and Exlax.
So, Tippy, your plan use to promote laxative use. Which attorney told you to stop?
And fundraisers? Man, that’s great. I guess getting $59.95 one time out of members isn’t good enough. “fund raisers” for the Pad My Pocket foundation. I’ll pass thank you.
October 2, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Antikimmerite
To top it all off SingingAss needs to learn to spell. Or edit. That was painful to read.
October 2, 2007 at 6:39 pm
finleysmom
This post made me so angry!! This was my reply on the site with my goodbye.
Too much controversy surrounding the red dress???? Are you kidding me??? Why not fix this then????? There should be NO controversy!!! FIX THIS by proving what is real! I don’t understand what the problem is. If the picture is Kimmer then PROVE IT! Why all the secrets, changes, drama, and lies??? WHY??? I have been around since the beginning on LCF. I was one of the first 20 members of Kimkins when all was hailed…”isn’t it nice to be on a site where you can speak freely and not have PM’s read and posts changed/deleted” WTF? This place is worse than LCF EVER was. What is wrong with you crazy people?? This is a nut house now. I can’t believe what has happened to this place. I feel so sad for the members who don’t understand that all of this change is a horrible sign. I am so sad it has come to this.
Goodbye all and good luck to finding what works for you!
October 2, 2007 at 6:43 pm
finleysmom
Oh, and yes I was banned for this post LOL!
October 2, 2007 at 9:06 pm
Princess Dieter
There is no limit to Tippy Toes’ reprehensible twisting of actual experiences and reality. Dang, that’s some shiny 30 pieces of silver there, Tips.
Controversy and the red dress? hahaha There would be no controversy if it was Kimmer, now would there be? The controversy is that it’s NOT.
And all that site scrubbing. Did you get all those Kimmer posts urging people to eat less, less, less and take laxatives? Did you?
And the members to blame? Boy. For someone who doesn’t follow the plan, you have some nerve judging those who DID in good faith.
You know, some people really do need to go down hard with the ship and captain…
So glad Christin and others are out there to put the lie to Tipper’s propaganda.
The Princess
October 2, 2007 at 9:52 pm
CR
“the red dress picture”
Why not say the “picture of Kimmer” LMAO…..
What a freakin JOKE!!!!
No cruise because there is food on it ROFLMAO…..
it just gets better everytime….the lies, the twists, the stupidity LOL
October 2, 2007 at 10:55 pm
moo
“We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff”
WTF lol. Oh and would someone PLEASE buy TT a friggen dictionary (and teach her how to use it).
October 2, 2007 at 11:56 pm
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October 3, 2007 at 7:36 am
Sue
Tippy – you’re a bitch!
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Well, as all can see, the call to contact WordPress by those within Kimkins to shut Ducky up was for naught. We’re still here and will remain since we are not, as we said yesterday, in violation of the TOS, nor do we plan to violate the TOS anytime soon. We carefully consider our words before publication and always remain within the boundaries of the law and the terms of service we agreed to when we registered this blog.
After careful consideration, we have edited out our ‘in jest remark’ in a post regarding SingingLass and have retained the original so as to ensure its integrity should it be needed later.
For those reading, be aware that threatening others by phone, in person, or in email is a criminal offense. It is something we abhor and we will cooperate fully with authorities if we are approached about our records here. Enough said on that matter.
This morning we’re given a treat from theTRUTH, another private message exchange between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and melt (a member) to highlight they are indeed two different people.
SingingLass is a bit miffed. She obviously has no clue about public records and reporting their contents online.
SingingLass wrote:
Re:Heads Up
If your privacy has been violated in the form of your posts, or even your private messages being posted over on ” the other site”…..you can email REMOVED. This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it and complain. They actually have in their terms of service that the privacy of third parties cannot be violated…..and yet they are posting things without permission from a private site. They also are instigating hate, and some other tactics that happened against myself this last weekend that I will post more on later. I am sure they are going to have more fun posting this post, tippy’s and others, because they do not have anything else to feed their mob….and actually are getting twisted enjoyment and entertainment value at intimidating, and terrorizing others. A line has been crossed in this situation.
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We reply, information from public records posted is not a violation of privacy.
Those concerned about privacy should not be listed in the phone book, posting online looking for dates, or disclosing their personal information themself in online posts.
ALL information posted here is obtained completely in open records and posts available online and/or from public records.
Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) posted in Kimkins moments ago:
Re:Heads Up
I just have to say it is very bad out there. This has turned out to be a very active hate group. I see no difference in this hate as any other hate, be it for blacks, hispanics, against abortion or whatever. This hate group is snowballing into a larger group all of the time. Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.
If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.
If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.
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October 1, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Kimkins Dangers
The best thing Tippy could ever have done.. get Homeland Security involved in this and watch how fast Kimkins disappears.. lol That Tippy doesn’t think, does she. lol
October 1, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Kim
Isn’t TT the one who sent threats, REAL threats, to Dottie that included mention of her kids?
Pot? Kettle? I haven’t seen any of us making threats…stating actions we are taking, but threats? I don’t think so.
October 1, 2007 at 3:14 pm
MicheleP
“Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.
If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.
If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.”
First of all… its THEIR not thier, use spellcheck!
October 1, 2007 at 3:17 pm
MicheleP
“Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.
If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.
If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.”
First of all… its THEIR not thier, use spellcheck!
Next… Your perception on what I legal and illegal is as questionable as your motives. You think it illegal to comment on a morbidly obese woman who passes herself off as a successful diet guru, using pictures that don’t even look like her or each other that that matter, lol, and that this woman FRAUDLENTLY collected what is esimated to be millions of dollars from unsuspecting people. You think it is illegal to expose this Kimmer? Give me a break. Get some serious help, professionally.
October 1, 2007 at 3:34 pm
kkatastrophediet
Hey Tippy! Consider this notification!
http://kkatastrophediet.wordpress.com/
Long live JUSTICE!!!
October 1, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Kimmerexia
Tippy’s right. I’m a terrorist.
October 1, 2007 at 3:47 pm
bobbin
Umm… it’s snowballing into a bigger and bigger group all of the time because more and more people are waking up to the fact that Kimmer and her admins (TT) are thieves, and liars. Everyone wakes up eventually.
October 1, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Violet Skye
WTF??? Tippykins, maybe it’s time to take a walk outside or a power-nap. I think you’ve been logging a bit too much time as an admin and it’s taking its toll on your sense of proportion.
October 1, 2007 at 4:23 pm
angie
Its snowballing into a bigger goup is because Kimkins is getting exposed as the scam that it is. More people are being educated about Heidi Diaz, Tippy Toes a.k.a. Jeannie Baitinger for the scam artists, liars and thieves that they are. Sweet victory will be when they are behind bars.
October 1, 2007 at 4:30 pm
ixtapacheryl
I think TT needs to get some legal advice ….. what we are doing is not considered illegal. TT, extortion/threats on your part towards the LCF administrators is very questionable.. and I would be frightened if I were you.
We have all been defrauded and scammed. If you feel the heat is escalating, my suggestion is to run (not walk) away from KK’s site before it’s too late (and that is not a threat), just a caring suggestion. Please please distance yourself from her. No amount of money that she is possibly paying you is worth being her employee. You don’t want to end up being the “fall” guy in all of this.
October 1, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Princess Dieter
Excuse me? Blowing up people with a car bomb is terrorism. Passing anthrax around in the mail is terrorism. Setting fire to churches and temples to intimidate and kill is terrorism.
Exposing dangerous diets and possible commercial fraud is not terrorism.
If Tippy is so concerned about illegalities, maybe she should investigate her boss and make sure that’s all clean and nice and on the up and up.
Oh, right. Her boss is PAYING her for this “public relations.”
I hope the mass of Kimkinites still over there see Tippy’s statement for the offense it is to victims of real terrorism.
Tippy, one phrase: 9-11
Look it up if you have forgotten.
The Princess
October 1, 2007 at 4:39 pm
Concerned about kimkins
Yes, Tippy, glad to see you are getting an “edumifcation” Stupid ass. Why don’t you research internet fraud. Why don’t you see what you are responsible for, in raising money for a fake charity? Bet you a dollar me calling Heidi fat will be far less important than you screwing people out of money.
Tippy=hillbilly douchebag!
October 1, 2007 at 4:43 pm
honeybeesblog
This was just posted up at KK as an example of the threatening emails that they have received there.
The poster then put comments after the threatening email that they were sharing. I think it is safe to say that the same person who wrote the comments also wrote the email. No screen names were used to protect the Identity of the poster…umm..but none needed.
Quote:
“We kzuw wko u r axd tke eivl u r diong. Us dcuks woll sotp at ntohnig utikl Kimkins hws foleln! We arre innakttnig a waar of teriror!!
Qacuk Qacuk.”
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!. At lseat Mssis awlyas is syanig how ipmorantt it is to msot.
Ok…yes I am kidding… but you know the PR department could have written this!!
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Edited to bold that this is a joke.
October 1, 2007 at 4:52 pm
PrincessDucky
She’s lost it.
October 1, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Sheridan
“Isn’t TT the one who sent threats, REAL threats, to Dottie that included mention of her kids?”
Yes, and she also sent a similar threat to Melly, one of the chat admins.
Ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, rebuke and expose them.
October 1, 2007 at 5:22 pm
Healthy LCer
From JWC:
HOMELAND SECURITY DUCK ADVISORY
Current Threat Level VERY YELLOW
WARNING
We have received credible information that there is an errant flock of yellow ducks roaming the streets of Corona, California in search of a skinny woman in a red dress. Following close behind the loudly quacking flock, are packs of small kittens and puppies hissing and snarling in unison, although some were observed smiling and winking as well. No one has been able to locate said skinny woman in red dress, so it is possible she has become duck food.
It has been reported that a somewhat larger woman in white stretch pants was seen running towards the airport followed by a rather tipsy female meandering recklessly as she tries to find new words in the dictionary. A third woman was observed staring intently into a crystal ball and screaming, “The ducks are coming, the ducks are coming!” Another follower was observed melting into the pavement reminiscent of the Wicked Witch of the West fame. The female in white stretch pants was then observed trying to obliterate the footprints behind her, but this did not seem to deter the flock of duck bills snapping at her heals.
It is critical that all who have reason to fear ducks, kittens, and puppies, should be on the lookout for these grave terroristic threats. In mass, quacking duckbills can be very effective weapons. Given enough quacks the world is sure to listen.
October 1, 2007 at 5:34 pm
Dottie
Clearing that up: My email was from Kimmer, not TT. I haven’t had any contact with Tippy except a PM before her cruise asking about how to search for something at LCF.
October 1, 2007 at 5:42 pm
anonymous
Posted by a KK member in response to TT’s post and deleted in rapid time:
I’m sorry, but I consider this to be highly offensive content. I live in Oklahoma, and was the news director for an all-news radio station at the time of the Murrah bombing in Oklahoma City. I know what terrorism looks like (smells like, feels like, sounds like) — and what’s going on the other sites ain’t it! Furthermore, to equate people who happen to be critical of Kimkins at other sites with neo-Nazi groups, the KKK or other extremists is ludicrous and insulting, and demonstrates a complete disregard for how truly dangerous an honest-to-goodness terrorist or hate group truly is. That comparison is completely inappropriate and ignorant.
Apparently, though, there’s no shred of free speech left here — if your thoughts don’t comply with what is considered to be “in line” with the “approved thinking”, you’re gone. . .
So ban away, Tippy Toes. Even though I haven’t said anything _object_ionable, I haven’t posted anything offensive, I haven’t included _link_s to “inappropriate” blogs, you’ll ban me because my opinion differs from yours.
And for anyone who reads this before it gets deleted and I get tossed, be aware that your health is your business — but you should be highly suspicious of anyplace that dictates to you what you can and can’t read or write.
And for the record, I have not copied any posts or PMs to other sites — my choice to leave Kimkins was mine, and I don’t believe that it is acceptable to “out” other people because they don’t agree with me. . . unlike some. I might choose to post this post someplace else, but it’s mine — and as the author, I have the right to use my words as I please.
I will continue to participate in other forums at other sites, where discussion can be freely held and honest but respectful communication is more important than the specific dogma of whatever WOE you choose. I’m not recruiting; you’re all grown-ups and can make your own choices — and I choose to go elsewhere.
C-ya!
October 1, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Mayberryfan
Two words for Tippy: Desparate. Pathetic.
October 1, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Exkimkinite
Yo Hidey!!!!
Are you embarrassed yet by Tippy making a complete moron of herself? Honestly woman, I gave you credit for more smarts than to have an idiot like this onboard at KK. Good grief. Terrorists. Someone quick – ALERT THE MEDIA.
October 1, 2007 at 6:15 pm
angie
I have 2 words for Tippy too: Fruit loop.
October 1, 2007 at 6:26 pm
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October 1, 2007 at 6:28 pm
2big4mysize
This is a pathetic tactic to scare those involved. You’d think being from the south she’d remeber that tactic of claiming federal law violations didn’t work against the civil rights boycotters in Alabama as the US supreme court ruled in their favor.
October 1, 2007 at 6:51 pm
theTRUTH
She sure scared me. I guess they are going to apply the patriot act now that we have been branded as terrorists. LMAO.
October 1, 2007 at 6:51 pm
TerryC
Kimmer has fled the asylum and left the “patients” in charge.
October 1, 2007 at 6:53 pm
theTRUTH
Now that we are branded as terrorists, maybe melt will like us better…
October 1, 2007 at 7:29 pm
Concerned about kimkins
2big, everything you just said I assure you went RIGHT OVER that hillbilly’s head. Are you kidding me? You think Tippy would know anything about civil rights, she’s still trying to figure out how to type/spell properly. Tippy is a moron, and the fact that she is the “Spokesperson/spokeshillbilly” for Kimkins, is AWESOME, it just helps those of us trying to out the company. When this hits that national media, they are gonna have a day with Tippy’s moronic ramblings. Ahhhh victory will be sweet.
October 1, 2007 at 7:33 pm
Dottie
October 1st, 2007 at 6:51 pm
TerryC
Kimmer has fled the asylum and left the “patients” in charge.
That’s what I’m wondering, too. When was the last time Kimmer shows online or posted?
October 1, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Stiff
“I just have to say it is very bad out there. This has turned out to be a very active hate group. I see no difference in this hate as any other hate, be it for blacks, hispanics, against abortion or whatever. This hate group is snowballing into a larger group all of the time. Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.”
That was the most professional statement I have ever heard…
…coming from a hillbilly.
“If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.”
In other words…Please, let me copy exactly what the haters are telling everyone to do by contacting your authorities because I have no brain to think on my own.
And let me call it terrorism in hopes I will stir some poor sensitive soul’s heart.
Bush is sending some troops to that hater website to take care of them KK-haters, ye hear?
Ahhhhhhhhahahah I can hear her in my head.
“If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.”
….so I can run to Heidi and be a good admin and get a good raise.
October 1, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Princess Dieter
Where, oh where, could Kimmer have funneled those accumulated membership fees in the hundreds of thousands….?
Someplace sunny where diet soda, wigs, white stretch pants, and #2 specials are bountiful, I suppose.
and theTruth–Melt doesnt’ like anybody but Melt and her boytoys, and maybe not even them. So, deal with it. Sniff.
The Princess
October 1, 2007 at 8:26 pm
mac
From Tippy at KK’s
Re:Heads Up 11 Minutes ago
They say they do not understand how the tactics could be considered terrorism. So for them here it is, straight from Webster’s dictonary: “Terrorism. the use of force or threats to intimidate”. This would include the attack launched by Ducky towards KimATC, threatening to post info about her children if she didn’t quit within a time limit set by them. This would also include SingingLass’s real name, address and phone number being posted with reference seeking those who live near her to “get her”. She has recieved major threats by telephone including death threats. They have suggested that if she has children they are in danger. This IS terrorism and this MUST be stopped.
Report terrorism to your local authorities. Print the threats and date. And contact us.
Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable
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Anyone with half a brain cell working can look back and see clearly that we never threatened to post about KimATC’s children. Her profile on Kimkins included her children’s names and when that was removed from KimATC’s profile on Kimkins Meet Your Team page, their names were promptly removed here too (and stated as such). All information posted about SingingLass is from public records and her own posts online. No threats, real or imagined, were made to “get her” in our post. Tippytoes keep digging that hole you’ve got going there!
October 1, 2007 at 8:29 pm
mac
Dottie,
It show Kimmer was on today!
October 1, 2007 at 8:41 pm
Kimkins Dangers
Making false accusations that someone is a terrorist is illegal, ftw.
October 1, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Concerned about kimkins
So ducky does this mean Tippy is walking straight into a defamation case from ya’ll now. I’m saying you should sue her too. She’s fully moronic! God Tippy keep typing please, I’m loving how ignorant you continue to be!!!!
October 1, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Kan
I think TT has made it clear that she should be the next target. And before I get called a TERRORIST, I mean she should be held liable for knowingly getting involved in a fraud and then bending over backwards to cover it up.
And you just know TT is loving this btw. She just wants to be in the spotlight. She is obviously an attention-who…..I mean attention-hound.
October 1, 2007 at 9:51 pm
CR
The paranoia must REALLY be setting in…they are imagining terrorists now LMAO!
Maybe Tippy hasnt heard of public record? As I said before, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
in Heidi’s words….”Tippy, get a diet buddy, and no stress eating!” LOL.
October 1, 2007 at 10:29 pm
antikimkins
Quote:
“We kzuw wko u r axd tke eivl u r diong. Us dcuks woll sotp at ntohnig utikl Kimkins hws foleln! We arre innakttnig a waar of teriror!!
Qacuk Qacuk.”<<<<<<<<<<<<
I read this at work today and just started giggling SO hard!!!
What a hoot it would be if we came up with our own little duck language that Heidi and her crew couldn’t understand, then we could post in all the blogs using it!!! ROFLMAO!!!
October 2, 2007 at 6:46 am
ghoov
In the interest of public service I shal post a translation for the rednecks out there:
“Re:Heads Up ah jest hafta say it is mighty bad out thar. This hyar has turned out t’be a mighty ackive hate group. ah see no difference in this hyar hate as enny other hate, be it fo’ blacks, hispanics, aginst abo’shun o’ whutevah. This hyar hate group is snowballin’ into a larger group all of th’ time. Thier intimidashun an’ scare tackis is not only unreasonable but quite illegal, ah reckon. Eff’n yo’ haf been thrett uped o’ intimidated by this hyar group please notify yer local autho’ities an’ us. These is acks of terro’ism, dawgone it. Eff’n yo’ see posts bein’ copied an’ passed t’other sites, please notify me.”
October 2, 2007 at 8:31 am
Mimi
antikimkins said, “…language that Heidi and her crew couldn’t understand…”
That language already exists, and is in widespread use across the blogs of Duckdom. That language is Truth. Heidi and her crew cannot understand this language. They’ll never crack the code.
Friends, Romans, Countrymen…
Wait, that is someone else’s speech!
In the interest of preserving our energies to continue to bring the truth out about Kimkins to the world, we are taking a weekend break.
To relax, unwind and enjoy time with our families.
We suggest those following the story do the same. All Kimmer/Kimkins all the time is simply not good for the soul.
Take a break. Get out into the sunshine, take time with your families, have some fun.
Nothing is going to happen over the weekend. Really.
Be well and we’ll see you again on Monday!
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September 29, 2007 at 3:52 pm
PrincessDucky
Have a great weekend Ducky!
September 29, 2007 at 4:07 pm
Healthy LCer
Great idea, Ducky. We all need a breather. Good day for raking leaves.
September 29, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Sweetie
I for one will miss you this weekend Ducky.
September 29, 2007 at 5:02 pm
NO Kimkins
I’m sure you’ll be back Monday with an explosive BOMBSHELL and I for one am looking forward to it!
September 29, 2007 at 6:14 pm
Lisa J
I agree!
Have a great weekend all!!!!
September 30, 2007 at 12:43 am
La Mesa
Have a great weekend…you deserve a wonderful and relaxing time!
September 30, 2007 at 2:00 am
mac
Time to pay the piper… 14 Minutes ago
Kimmer, Heidi Diaz, Kim Drake and any other aliases you may be using as you scurry under what now must be a very large rock (in light of recently revealed photos) you hide under.
You, my friend are a real piece of work. You must really despise yourself or are one very sick individual to prey upon the weaknesses and vulnerability of the people that were attracted to your advice and website. Do you realize if you had put as much effort and thought into a legitimate and legal business purpose that you had with this plan of deception of yours, that all you are now facing (or will very soon be facing) would not even be an issue? Your condescending tone and belittling of others shows very clearly what you really think of yourself. Since you so obviously couldn’t change your inside or your outside you chose instead to prey upon these so-willing victims and in one fell swoop, strip them of their money and their dignity. Your obvious self-hatred is really very sad. I hope you get the two things you most deserve, the immediate help from a mental health professional and your day in a court of law. Please keep my $14.95 membership fee, as I am sure you will need it for a large attorney retainer, that or a one-way ticket out of the country.
Come out from behind the curtain Mr. Wizard…Emerald City is about to fall….
http://www.3fatchicks.com/Diets/Diet_Articles/Kimkins:_Anatomy_of_a_Diet_Scam
This posted at kimkins tonight!!
October 1, 2007 at 6:26 am
anani
Well I guess we know what Tippy was up to this weekend. Check out the new home page of Kimkins. (Warning: You’ll need a barf bag)
I hope Cartbabe can be notified plus I think the legal department of People Magazine needs to know that their logo has been cut and pasted into Kimkins advertising. Tippy I hope for your sake (well not really) that you actually had enough brains to get their express written permission to do this. You see…in the world of advertising it is illegal to use a copyrighted logo in your own advertising, without permission from that company, which …well, is pretty much impossible to get from as large a corporation as this.
Oh and notice how the “miracle woman” herself has been scrubbed off and any mention of her from the front page. No more red dress pic and no more mention of Kimmer and her amazing 198 lb weight loss.
October 1, 2007 at 12:40 pm
Dottie
“Oh and notice how the “miracle woman” herself has been scrubbed off and any mention of her from the front page. No more red dress pic and no more mention of Kimmer and her amazing 198 lb weight loss.”
Makes you wonder if she’s even there anymore…
October 1, 2007 at 2:26 pm
Kim
I have a subscription to People and I’m almost postive that there was no mention of Kimkins in that magazine. I could be wrong, but that would have stood out to me. I’m going to check and see if I still have that magazine and double check.
Another change to the Kimkins site: If you click on the 10 reasons to join, they aren’t listed anymore, you have to give your name and e-mail and they are sent to you.
Anybody else see this as the website crumbling? Does TT see Heidi taking herself away from this more and more and that means TT is going to be left holding the bag?
Yesterday, theTRUTH treated us to more inside private communications between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and SingingLass; private messages from a system that only the two currently have access to because the PM system was closed to all others in an attempt to ferret out who is leaking information.
Interestingly, SingingLass seems worried that her information might have been compromised if she’d included it to Kimmer in their communications. In the PM exchange released yesterday,
SingingLass wrote:
They were like three days ago. Heck, I just last night noticed the yellow star and enable admin mode and went “ohhhh”, I had not even initially realized stuff was being read, like by scoble etc…..I am glad I did not give my full work info out, I had almost sent you a direct link.
Here’s the scoop about SingingLass,
Delaney Lynn Deaver
XXXX NW 20th Street
Corvallis, OR 97330
(541) 752-1420
EDITED to remove rhetorical suggestion to avoid any further misunderstanding of intentions; original saved though no longer visible.
Her page at the EBSQ “self represented artists” website.
And her Mormon Dating page.
