What Happened to Ducky??

Ducky just decided to fade away into the unknown. The blog was pulled, the photos were pulled. The account wiped clean. Even the email no longer works.

Why??

Did ducky feel like all the work was done in bringing Heidi down??

Did Ducky get cold feet??

We will probably never know why they decided to pack it in. Our many questions will most likely go unanswered.

I may ruffle a few feathers but I’ve got to say my piece here. Many of us have busted our rear ends doing things to further tighten the noose on ol’ Heidi, adding one more nail in the coffin. Does Ducky not realize how much valuable information was lost when they decided to pull the blog. Or do they just not care any more.

I fully understand possible activist burnout. I’ve hit the wall many times over the years in the fight for various causes. But I never just gave up. Deleting the blog was childish in my opinion. If they weren’t interested in the fight anymore it would have been very easy just to leave the blog dormant or pass it on to someone who would use it.

Were they afraid someone may find out their identity??

I say so what.

The fight is long from being over with. The truth STILL needs to be told. Oh yeah….one more thing to say…..

WE AIN’T DONE YET

Becky Continues in Part 3 (Repost)

Keep Digging Tippytoes, Keep Digging

Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) continues to enlighten Kimkins members about her theory on Ducky, theTRUTH and why Low Carb Friends is unAmerican too!

SUBJECT: Re:Question for Tippy

Tippytoes wrote:

Well, Netrition does allow it’s BB to be used to help destroy our home here. They allow members to speak freely and very unkindly, make fun of and threaten people who follow Kimkins. They even allow this hostility towards their own members who follow Kimkins. They are aware their chat admins are Ducky and The Truth and they are aware of the slander being written and promoted. They have made no efforts to discourage this behavior and in fact appear to be in favor of promoting it. They allow their members to make fun of overweight people yet they call themselves a diet support site. They still keep all Kimkins threads available for use. The “we can do what we want and you better not question it” is unreasonable and unAmerican at best. If you want to do business with this company you certainly may and you have every right to do so. But I want the truth known so others can make their own choices too.

*****

It’s clear Tippytoes has now entered into the realm of what can only be considered libel against Low Carb Friends and their admins; in addition she’s now fully within the boundaries of a lawsuit should Low Carb Friends or those admins she’s accusing decide to take the next step.

Oh, and Tippytoes, slander isn’t written, it’s verbal.

Becky Continues

Just moments ago, Becky posted a continuation of Kimkins: The Perfect Storm.

Now, a look at the professional practices of Kimkins.

Kimmer first gave out her brand of diet advice (as well as hair care and skin care tips) for years on Low Carb Friends, which garnered both followers and foes. I am not sure when the idea of her own site first began in her mind, whether it was all a carefully-laid plan, or just an opportunity too good to pass up when it arose. Judging from her track record of not sticking very long with any one thing (whether it be school or work or a relationship), I would guess that it was the latter. My conjecture is that she joined the diet site in all sincerity, hoping to lose weight like anyone else. She probably learned some things and had some initial success, but then, being Kimmer, she just couldn’t help embellishing things a bit, highlighting her successes and ignoring her failings, amplifying it more and more, becoming more extreme over time, as it began to attract some attention. Gradually, the gap between her words and her actions widened, as she could not follow through with her knowledge and intentions, but could not allow herself to back down and admit it, either.

She may have done what many of us have done —- promised herself to get back on track tomorrow, next week, next month, try to be extra strict to make up for it, only to give in to her old ways again. Her real life wasn’t working for her at all — but online she could be the best possible version of herself, everything she every dreamed of, until perhaps she came to believe it herself. The attention and approbation were too addicting.

At some point, it seems, delusion reigned supreme, and there was no backing down. As her claims became more grandiose and her polarizing presence began to dominate and draw heat more and more at the LCF forum, another member, Catherine, approached her with the idea of an ebook and a website to sell it. (Read more here.) I think it was the brass ring, the golden goose, and Kimmer/Heidi grabbed at the opportunity for . Once that thought was there, I do believe Kimmer purposely aggravated her enemies and gathered her fans even more, setting the stage for her big exit. Soon, ‘Kimmer’ flounced off in a huff, and Kimkins.com was launched as a partnership between Heidi Diaz, supposed diet guru and Catherine McDonald, tech expert.

In the early days of the Kimkins website, Kimmer seemed to have it all — a successful diet plan, satisfied customers who were easy to please, low overhead, and a competent business partner who made her ideas work. Her departure from LCF calmed down hostilities quite a bit all around, and Kimmer was left to operate her own site in her own little corner of the internet with little interference. If she had made the right moves then, Heidi/Kimmer might possibly have been able to continue on course to a legitimate business success for quite some time to come. However, because Kimmer at her core is a fraud, it was inevitable that any enterprise built on that basis would soon begin to crumble.

Kimmer was not only a fraud in her own personal claims of large, rapid weight loss, but she soon began building the business of Kimkins around fraud at virtually every level — member service, marketing, and management.

~ Fraudulent Member Service: She lied to her members about the safety and efficacy of her diet plans, leading them to believe her plans were safely based on the recognized plans of doctors such as Dr. Atkins and Dr. Stillman, while continuing to push them ever farther away from the cautions and sensible limits of those plans. She assured members it was safe, because, after all, it had worked so well for her, or so she said. She also began to be less and less available to members, despite her promised member benefit of ‘personal coaching‘. She ignored or gave inadequate and misleading answers to valid member concerns. This was because she apparently preferred to spend her energies on marketing, to keep new paying customers coming in the front door while leaving the members mostly on their own to look out for one another.

~ Fraudulent Marketing: In her marketing campaign, she lied to prospective members by spamming Craigslist with fake listings to plug Kimkins, by posting phony ‘articles’ and answers and numerous blogs for Kimkins all over the internet under various names, by promoting Kimkins with false implied celebrity endorsements specifically to target teens, and primarily by posting numerous fraudulent ’success’ stories with ‘lifted’ and photoshopped ‘before’ and ‘after’ pictures. She also made numerous claims she had no proof of or right to make, in violation of FTC regulations.

~ Fraudulent Management: Heidi/Kimmer entered into partnership with Catherine originally under false pretenses, and continued to lie to her about many things, including the source of the ‘success stories‘. It also appears that Heidi skimmed a certain part of the gross proceeds from the partnership before profits were split, by funneling income to supposed affiliate accounts which actually led back to her. It is unclear whether proper legal or tax filings were ever made, though it does not appear they were.

In matters big and small, every bit of the Kimkins enterprise was fraught with deception. It was bound to catch up to her sooner or later.

Before too long, Catherine began to have concerns about Heidi’s integrity, and backed out of the partnership. At this point, Kimmer claims to have brought in 4 other partners to finance Catherine’s buyout, but this is highly doubtful. For one thing, one of the partners she claims to have brought in at that time is Heidi Diaz, but photographic and written evidence clearly shows that Kimmer herself is Heidi Diaz. (For example, Kimmer has always acknowledged that Catherine was her partner in the beginning, and Catherine signed the original partnership agreement with Heidi Diaz.) Other names mentioned as possible ‘partners’ include Dennis Sharp (her son), Vanessa Sharp and/or Romero (Vanessa Romero is her niece), Nicki or Nikki Sharp, and Tish Diaz. It is extremely unlikely that these relatives are actually working, decision-making partners as Kimmer leads people to believe. It is possible they put up some money so Heidi could buy out Catherine; it is possible she got money from them under some other pretext; it is very possible they know little or nothing, and she is just using their names to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise. Nicki and later Vanessa disappeared from the “Meet Your Team’ roster some time ago, so it is possible they were based on actual people who became aware of the use of their identities, and protested it.

I have seen various things supposedly ‘written’ by some of those names and now Brad Johnson. To me. they all have the same unmistakable writing style, and are all almost surely written by Heidi herself, who freely admits to writing frequently under various male and female names. No one has ever spoken or communicated with any of them, except through Kimmer, and she trotted out the same excuses over and over as to why they were not available. (Usually they were ‘called out of town to deal with a sick father’.) Kimmer herself often spoke to me of doing all affiliate payouts and answering affiliate questions, even though she supposedly had an affiliate manager. These ‘partners’ were probably a construct that Kimmer used to pass blame, as when criticizing someone (’the partners don’t think they are getting their money’s worth’) or floating unpopular ideas (’the partners are pressing to make the fees monthly vs. lifetime membership’, which she brought up to me several times), as well as to provide other ‘identities’ under which to hide income.

In fact, there is no good reason to assume that the entity of Kimkins is anything other than Heidi Diaz sitting at her computer pumping out fraudulent marketing and picking up funds from Paypal and the mailbox, with a tech guy or two working remotely and unaware of the real situation, and paid and unpaid admins and members doing the heavy lifting on the site.

The best of businesses, with a solid business plan and an experienced team of managers would have been hard pressed to absorb the massive explosion of growth that occurred with the Woman’s World magazine feature. Kimmer only had forum helpers with very little knowledge of the true nature of the business; after all, she could not afford to bring anyone into her confidence, because she had too many secrets to hide. So, Heidi was suddenly way out of her league. She was gleeful at the funds rolling in, and foolishly thought she could continue to get away with the same type of scamming indefinitely. She was even in contact with Star magazine for another feature. Who knows? Maybe she even thought she could lose the weight, go legit, and make it work. However, her newfound success soon began to cave in on her.

Once thousands of new members hit the site and began trying to understand and apply the diet, the pressure was too heavy and all the cracks in the foundation soon began to appear. Without the personal mentoring and reinterpretation of the diets that new members had received before, the flaws and gaps in Heidi’s business soon became very evident. Many of those coming in with fresh eyes clearly saw the disparity between what was promised and what was delivered. Many clearly saw the dangers of the diet plans, all of them. Of the 40,000 or more who joined, most never even tried the diet once they actually saw it, and many who did try it did not stick with it long. Meanwhile, all the massive attention the diet was receiving reignited the souldering controversy that she thought she had left behind at LCF. However, Heidi did have two things working in her favor: the misplaced support of people like me who encouraged new members to stick with it, and the absolute sheer desperation of overweight people who had almost given up hope. For my own blindness and supporting role in it, I am sick-to-my-stomach sorry, and beg forgiveness.

At this time, Heidi seemed manic with delight over the income rolling in, and eager to spin off new ventures – more magazine and media features, merchandise, and related enterprises like the nutrition business she offered me. She could hardly be bothered with member support or complaints, and brushed off all concerns as something irrelevant, hardly worthy of her attention, even as worrisome side effects and evidences of her dishonesty mounted. Thus, the round of emails I pressed on her, with the results that we admins began to leave and express our concerns and experiences.

Our exits and warnings further precipitated a rash of blockings and bannings, as other members took up the banner and began speaking out. The business of Kimkins is now woefully in breech of the terms of their agreement with their members, who paid for lifetime membership in a healthy and safe diet followed by a woman who lost 198 lbs in 11 months and maintained it, only to be booted without warning when they complained that the diet was unsafe and the owner’s story was a lie. Members have had ‘privileges’ like private messaging and blog links in their signatures revoked, have been flamed and harangued mercilessly for any hint of breaking ranks,and have been banned without warning, redress, or refund on the vaguest pretext of ‘violation of Terms of Service’, which, like the diet plans and disclaimers, are an ever-moving target, conveniently changed after the fact.

Kimmer had it all — a million dollar website, a great staff, great member loyalty, and great future prospects. And due to great greed, arrogance, and dishonesty she threw it away.

Kimmer is now behaving like a rat backed into a corner, biting and snarling, while looking for a way of to escape unscathed. She is starting to meltdown, trying to cover her tracks and salvage what she can, leaving more of the running of things in the hands of unqualified admins. Perhaps she still thinks she can pull it off, or perhaps she is making her exit plans. As she continues to overestimate herself and underestimate her opponents, she will find, once again, that she has made a grave mistake in waiting too long.

Kimmer is a dangerous fraud, and the business of Kimkins is a dangerous fraud.

Both need to be stopped, and the sooner, the better.

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September 27, 2007 at 7:47 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 7:50 pm

Mimi

A note about the timeline … correct me if I’m wrong, but from all the digging that’s been done, Kimkins.com was set up BEFORE Heidi left LCF.

She had found LCF fertile ground for cultivating a crop of victims, but couldn’t harvest them until (according to the CreditBoard) her bankruptcy and other liens had “timed off.”

In the meantime, she was getting the website ready. When the time-off date had passed, that’s when she left LCF and started charging money for memberships.

This is, to the best of my knowledge, the REAL timeline.

September 27, 2007 at 8:01 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 8:10 pm

Becky/Littlebit

I believe that Kimkins.com as a domain name was registered in April. 2006, the big flail-up happened in late May or early June, with site launch very shortly after.

Catherine or Martin would know more.

September 27, 2007 at 8:21 pm

Mimi

Yes I’m confusing registration of the domain, with opening the board. What I mean is, basically, she was laying the groundwork for the board, preparing, and building up to her dramatic exit from LCF.

As one of the other commenters has stated elsewhere, Heidi isn’t mentally ill — she’s simply evil, and she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s fully aware of her intentions and her actions, fully capable of outcome-based behaviors.

September 27, 2007 at 9:54 pm

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Becky (assuming you come back to this blog), after the WW article, was it ever *confirmed* that over 35,000 new members actually paid the life-time membership fee? Confirmed by anyone other than Kimmer, I should say. Did you have access to those types of figures, names and numbers?

I was a member there at the time and, yes, it was mind-boggling with the flood of new members, but close to 40,000? I’ve always had trouble believing that figure. If that’s really the case, the vast majority of them obviously didn’t stick around to post in the forums.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t doubt YOU, Becky. But I can see how Kimmer would exaggerate the numbers just, as you said, “to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise.”

If the 40,000 figure is anywhere close to accurate … where are all these people? Those of us protesting here, at ALC, LCF, etc. are just the tip of the iceberg.

September 27, 2007 at 10:19 pm

Princess Dieter

It would be interesting to know when Kimmer-Heidi’s son turned legal age. Maybe THAT is what she was waiting for, since she put the site under his name. If the son turned 18 Spring of 2006, that would definitely put the motivation there…

(Can a 17 yeard old have a site registered under their name? I have no idea.)

And I totally believe she’d be going to LCF to gather her following before heading off.

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 10:45 pm

antikimkins

Kimmer certainly doesn’t appear to be a millionaire, in fact, she still seems to have money problems. I wonder out of the thousands who joined after the WW article, how many requested refunds within that 24 hour block?

September 27, 2007 at 11:20 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Kimmer canceled the 24- hour refund policy prior to the magazine feature. She did give out some refunds from those who joined and cited kidney problems or other medical concerns, once they saw the diet, but very few.

I cannot prove those figures are accurate, but i would not be at all surprised if the membership numbers are not actually higher now.

I know how busy i was. I saw the posts rolling through there. At one time, I had access to member service emails, and she was getting literally thousands of emails a day. I was getting scores of PMs, as were many others. We had thousands online at a time, and hundreds posting intros and joining new challenges every day.

She also became suddenly very elated, and became much more willing to pay for help.

I imagine many signed up, looked at the diets, and left quickly, chalking it up to an expensive lesson learned. Most were not a typical online crowd. Quite a few lurked, but did not post. Many posted, but have dropped out now. Many have gotten banned, or cowed into silence. Still, they paid, and she kept the money.

She only took the membership and online numbers down when she began drawing too much fire from LCF, Slamboard, etc. I believe she wanted to reduce speculation into her gross profits once people started doing the math.

I have heard people say that they would look online and not see many people there back then. Perhaps they were not looking in the right places, because that was not at all the case then. The way the site was set up, the number reflected on a forum index page did not reflect the number actually viewing threads within that particular forum, but only the number of people looking at that index page at the time. You would have to open each thread to get a full count.

Only she knows for sure what her full intake was, but I have reason to believe it was quite high.

She told me she had only put back into the business what was absolutely necessary, and had the rest invested at a 10% rate of return. Who knows if that is true?

I do not believe she planned this out years in advance. I think she posted at LCF first for ego and power, and only later for money. I just don’t see her as someone who can sustain hard work for long without some kind of a payoff, but rather as an opportunist. I could be wrong. Time will tell.

September 28, 2007 at 2:04 am

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Thank you, Becky, for that insight. I guess I’ve been hoping for lower numbers because that would mean fewer people were scammed, but it looks like she really was/is raking in the big bucks. Thanks again.

September 28, 2007 at 2:47 am

Dottie

Becky that’s very insightful. I also do not think that this giant “venture” was on her mind when she started out on LCF. Looking back on when she left, I really think she was planning on just getting $$ out of maybe a couple of dozen of her “fans” off LCF, then shutting the site down due to lack of funds (or hitting the members up for more $$ to “run” it).
I don’t really think she had any idea that it would take off in the big way that it did.

September 28, 2007 at 7:15 am

Princess Dieter

I totally believe there was a windfall from WW. That kind of coverage is sure to do that.

And I’m sure H/K knew to keep the money inflow quiet and the lifestyle discreet so as to keep all sorts off her back. Spending oodles would have drawn attention, I think. There is also the miser phenomenon where accumulating the money is the kick, not spending it. In fact, spending it reduces the pleasure of actually having a hoard.

Even if it’s half the reported 40K, that’s a lot of mookah going mostly to ONE woman who is hardly accountable. She got the Paypal and the checks. Why should she be truthful about how much when she’s not truthful about the rest?

And if she can offer Christian a car, then 100K for an Oprah brass ring, trust me, that means she had to have a nice, tidy reserve.

It would only have taken 10K members after WW to get 600K. And if that’s not reported or paid taxes on, that’s a nice chunk for any “disabled” person on government dole.

Didn’t someone say that the son bragged mom had a million in Paypal? (Can’t verify where that came from. Just remember reading it.)

The Princess

September 28, 2007 at 8:31 am

Sherrie

I think you’re right Becky.

September 30, 2007 at 8:12 pm

Peaches12

Why did all the admin. wait until the same time to quit. If you knew the diet was dangerous why did you continue to state otherwise, was it just the money that kept you going. I’m so confused, I continue to do Kimkins but with a higher fat intake since my body stalled and the increase intake helped it to lose quicker. How could so many been individual’s lifes have been put in jeopardy for merely a paycheck. Can you answer that, Becky?

SingingLass Kissing Ass Again!

Yes, there is still more to report today. Hard to believe, isn’t it?

Over at theTRUTH, we learn of more admin private messages that discuss the bannings, paypal refund requests and more.

SingingLass wrote:

Hi, looks like scoble banned her ownself in her departure….her public reason for leaving was a bit snarky, so I changed it to ” Voluntary” to simplify it….thought I would let you know on the chance you would like it to read tos violation instead.

I keep checking in, things have been pretty quiet on the boards the last 24 hours it seems….but that could be a good thing too.

Oh, you most likely already know, but just in case you do not …heads up. Ducky is sending people instructions now on attacking through Paypal.

Kimmer wrote:

You are really on your toes! Paypal automatically denies any claim more than 12 weeks old. We saw 12 auto-declines and couldnt’ figure out why. Now I know!

Hopefully things will quiet down at least for the members. Some get really upset by the hoopla.
Thanks for being here!

Read the full post, including theTRUTHS commentary here.

*****

It clear the person scrambling around online isn’t Kimmer (Heidi Diaz), it’s SingingLass.

We know Kimmer lacks any moral compass from all we’ve read, seen and heard.

But

We wonder, how morally bankrupt one must be to not only be one of Kimmer’s minions, up day and night running around online trying to find something to report back with, but never question what you’re out here reading day in day out?

And, by the way, how can SingingLass not understand her weight loss isn’t going anywhere lately because she’s sitting on her ass all day long doing nothing but kissing Kimmer’s ass?

Getting to Know tarvosK

While most of the admins at Kimkins find working for or with a charlatan not only offensive, but carries potential legal liabilities, some dig their heels in and are staying for the ride.Today we’ll get to know one such admin, tarvosk. In real life he’s Vincent (Vince), born March 8th, 1961, so he’s not someone who is young and naive here. He resides in Traverse City, Michigan with his fiance Darlene (Kimkins user name Kaiala).

He’s unemployed and has been for years, despite receiving employment offers to make him a gainfully employed member of society. Instead he spends much of his time idling away in classes at Northwestern, taking an occassional gig to make some money rather than work full-time.He’s quite a character too. Weighing 408 pounds in recent posts, he’s actually abandon eating the low calorie Kimkins diet, much preferring the quick and convenient food that’s available for grab and go as he visits his fiance in the hospital.

Not only that, he likens himself to a dominant in a submissive-dominant relationship and considers his fiance his property, unworthy and inferior to him.Yes, his fiance, who weighs 367 pounds, is in the hospital with kidney complications from an infection. Of course he insists it cannot be related to the diet they’ve been following all this time, K/E, which is very low calorie, very low in nutrients and thus lower immunity to infections. That he refuses to see the connection between her diet and her health problems speaks volumes about his belief he is superior and knows better than she. Still, let’s not forget, it’s worth noting again, he abandon the diet himself. Kimmer is truly culling the bottom these days if she is resorting to using admins with such penchant for domination over others. Though, it seems such thinking must be a pre-requisite these days at Kimkins since members continue to ask questions and keep waking up to the fact that Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is a liar.

This tarvosK admin should know he may be implicated in criminal and/or civil charges should he remain a loyal servant of Kimmer. And that of course is the real irony here, he is her servant, doing her dirty work, blindly obeying her commands. Ain’t life grand?

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September 24, 2007 at 5:27 pm

La Mesa

Funny he is supposed to be the ‘dominate one’ in his relationship….and yet…somehow…..he ends up being Heidi’s bitch!

September 24, 2007 at 5:47 pm

ban kimmer

Son of a bitch La Mesa! I was drinking when I read that. You are an ass! In the best possible way that is Holy crap that was some funny shit right there!

September 24, 2007 at 5:48 pm

doggygirl

Good one La Mesa!

Whew. If T’s partner has TRULY and WILLINGLY chosen a particular lifestyle, then ……enjoy…..I guess. If K is NOT willingly choosing this…then….. Wow. It’s so hard to tell (IMO) with the whole dominant / submissive lifestyle thing because from many miles away, who knows whether the submissive is choosing this or not – REALLY. But there is little doubt that T is submitting to Kimmer…..

Mean time, if K wants out of this thing with T, I hope she somehow asks for help from her hospital bed. There are just no words for this stuff….

At [url=http://doggygirl.wordpress.com]Doggygirl’s Dog House[/url] I am taking nominations for NEXT person to go into the dog house. Feel free to stop by and nominate T or somebody else. By the way…the actual DOGS in the dog house eat really, really well. Visit my blog to see what the people in the dog house get to eat!

DG

September 24, 2007 at 5:53 pm

Me

LOL @ LaMesa! Being Heidi’s bitch is good practice for later when he will be Bubba’s bitch in jail!

September 24, 2007 at 6:06 pm

Kim

LaMesa that is a classic!

How can something not click when you’re lying in a hospital bed with kidney complications? I’m pretty sure the hospital isn’t letting her follow the Kimkins plan while she’s in there….which should tell her something.

September 24, 2007 at 6:12 pm

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

It doesn’t surprise me that one of Kimmer’s top administrators doesn’t follow her diet …. look at Kimmer. She doesn’t either! And for that matter, neither does Tippy! Or that Othlia person.

In fact, does ANYBODY in administration over there follow the Kimkins WOE?

September 24, 2007 at 6:37 pm

The Princess Dieter

Tam, I am guffawing. It’s so true. None of the toppers are doing Kimkins! How funny is that? They’re fighting so hard to protect the plan, and they’re not even on the plan.

SNARF!!!

The Princess

September 24, 2007 at 7:09 pm

Reingold

Does Kimmer have anyone on staff that isn’t a societal deviant at this point?

SingingLass doesn’t pay her student loans and like Kimmer, laughs about it. She thinks she’s a psychic too?

tarvosK is some prevert.

Tippytoes is complete scum.

Kimmer is a fat obese blubber-butt peddling diet advice she herself can’t follow?

Did I miss anyone?

September 24, 2007 at 7:14 pm

wifezilla

Hey! Some of my best friends are social deviants….but they are not lairs or thieves or other form of scumbag like Kimmer and TT. Stop insulting the mentally interesting by comparing them to Heidi and her henchmen!

September 24, 2007 at 8:16 pm

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September 24, 2007 at 8:17 pm

too bad kimmer

How do we know SingingLass doesn’t pay her student loans?

September 24, 2007 at 8:40 pm

The Princess Dieter

As someone who loved her college years and who values education for all sorts of reasons, and who wants the colleges and universities of this fine nation to thrive and be the best they can be, I surely can say that loan scoffers piss me off big time.

It’s abusive. Someone always has to pay. Student loan skippers leave ALL THE REST OF US to pay.

May they get really bad hemorrhoids…the lot of them…and never be able to sit in peace.

So there.
The Princess has spoken…make it so!

September 24, 2007 at 8:52 pm

Kim

I am right there with you on that one Princess! I work w/ attorneys who have skipped out on their loans, or defer, defer, defer. It makes me sick! We pay extra every month just to try to get them paid off!!! And together, we’re not making what these attorneys are.

September 24, 2007 at 9:17 pm

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September 24, 2007 at 10:09 pm

Singinglass

I do pay my student loans, and my taxes. Please try not to make assumptions. I also am following the kimkins plan…with the approval of two different doctors. So yes, there are admins following the plan.

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Where is the pound a day promise with your weight loss Lassie?

September 25, 2007 at 1:18 pm

JenX

That guy sounds DISGUSTING. Gross.
Then again they all do–birds of a feather. Of course in this case the birds are vultures.

September 26, 2007 at 4:33 pm

LDub

OK, it just gets better about Tarvosk…. he just posted on KK that he and his fiance are practicing Wiccan’s… which to mere mortals means…. they both think they are witches! Oh, it just keeps ketting weirder and weirder over there!

Investigate for Yourself

For those being lulled to sleep within the Kimkins website to believe nothing is really happening because of sites like this, wake up!

If you want to continue to believe Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) so be it, but if you want to confirm the veracity of things reported here and elsewhere, here is your chance to do your own fact checking to see for yourself that we’re not simply blowing hot air.

Don’t simply believe us, really, check these things out for yourself.

FACT CHECK OPTION 1: Call or email CASA

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) claims she “serves” as a CASA. Barbara Hofman is the director of the Riverside CASA Satallite. She is available via email at bhofman@casariversidecounty.org or by phone at (951) 358-4305 and can verify that Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is not a CASA and has not been for years!

FACT CHECK OPTION 2: Call the Office of the Foster Care Ombudsman

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) claims she has foster children in her care. For more information on placements and licensing, call the Office of the Foster Care Ombudsman at 1-877-846-1602. They can tell you that at one time Heidi Diaz did serve as a foster parent, but has not in years!

FACT CHECK OPTION 3: Call the FTC

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) claims nothing has come about from the online petition. We beg to differ and suggest you contact the FTC to verify receipt of the complaint and ask about the status of the ongoing investigation.

FACT CHECK OPTION 4: Call the Postmaster General Fraud Hotline

Mail fraud is serious.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is under investigation for mail fraud.

Don’t believe us, pick up the phone and verify the ongoing investigation!

Hotline telephone number is 1-800-452-8210. You can also e-mail to hotline@cncsoig.gov

FACT CHECK OPTION 5: Call Social Security

It has been learned that Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) collects Social Security Disability and since she’s made millions on her website this year, continuing to collect places her in the category of fraudulent recipt of benefits. The Social Security Administration is investigating. You can verify the open and ongoing investigation by calling Telephone: 1-800-269-0271 from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time

FACT CHECK OPTION 6: Call the California Attorney Gereral’s Office

Ask if they’ve received the complaint and petition and if they have opened an investigation. They can be reached at Voice: (916) 322-3360 or 1-(800) 952-5225.

FACT CHECK OPTION 7: Call the attorney leading the class action lawsuit

His name is John Tiedt and you can reach him at 951-343-3320.

Now ask yourself, why would we put all this information up for you to verify if we and other bloggers were lying?

UPDATE

FACT CHECK OPTION 8: Contact the Braille Institute

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) has a success story up where the supposed woman is blind and met Heidi at the Braille Institute where Heidi volunteered.

Call the Braille Institute at Phone: (323) 663-1111 or email them at la@brailleinstitute.org and ask if Heidi Diaz has indeed volunteered with them or not. Hint, they’ll tell you no!

And for the record, you may wish to ask about her known aliases:

Heidi Diaz
Heidi K. Diaz
Heidi Kimberly Diaz
Heidi K Miller
Heidi Kimberly Miller
Heidi Drake (mother’s maiden name)

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September 18, 2007 at 5:53 pm

LCer

I contacted CASA a while back and was told that Diaz used to be a CASA but hasn’t been a part of their volunteer program in YEARS! I also called the foster care program when it was first posted that she doesn’t have foster kids and again was told she used to, but there is no record of her being a foster parent in the last three years.

September 18, 2007 at 5:59 pm

OddManOut

Has anyone contacted the woman Kimmer claims to have met at the braille institute to find out if she even exists?
There’s a profile on the kimkins.com site about her.

September 18, 2007 at 6:03 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Yeah, well guess what, she hasn’t been with the braille institute under any of those names, and um…they are pissed off. So I guess this is just another lie!

September 18, 2007 at 6:21 pm

ally

Can I post this to Kimkins?

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Absolutely! Just realize doing so will most likely lead to your being banned immediately!

September 18, 2007 at 6:21 pm

Fatkins4Me

Well, I can confirm that the postmaster general is investigating since I reported mail fraud from the check I sent to her for the foster kids challenge!

September 18, 2007 at 6:44 pm

Do Good Today

I sent the FTC a very long and detailed letter, complete with screen captures and text that is illegal. I don’t know if that opened the investigation, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who alerted them to the Kimkins frauds!

September 18, 2007 at 6:47 pm

Kimmer Sucks!

Called FTC? yes, ongoing investigation confirmed

Called CASA? yes, Heidi Diaz not a CASA

Called Foster Care? yes, Heidi Diaz used to be a foster parent, isn’t now

Called Braille Institute? yes, they’re pissed at the claims made on Kimkins and no Heidi Diaz (or other alias) has ever volunteered with them

Called postmaster? yes, no comment about open investigations

Called SS? yes, no comment about ongoing investigations

Called attorney? no need to, I’m already part of the class action and know he’s real and the suit is in progress!

September 18, 2007 at 7:54 pm

OddManOut

Yahoo the kimins ebook is out! Finally I have something to read while I go to the bathroom. #1 because it’s only a 2000 word “book”.

Congratulations! You have just received the Kimkins.com e-book! Here you will read and learn all about the original Kimkins Diet, how and why it works — and best of all, what it can do for you!

What Is the Kimkins Diet and What Makes It Superior to Other Weight Loss Plans?

Kimkins is the fastest major weight loss plan ever. Sure, we know you’ve heard claims like this before. That’s one reason we have decided to put the original Kimkins Diet in this e-book. Try it and see for yourself.

Always ask your doctor before starting this or any diet plan.

Do I Have To Take Pills Such As Appetite Suppressants or Diet Pills?

Absolutely NOT! However, do speak with your doctor about quality nutritional vitamins and mineral supplements. In this day and age of depleting soil nutrients and processing of foods, free radicals and environmental pollution, we strongly recommend supplements for everyone — dieting or not.

Will I Be Hungry?

No. The Kimkins Diet causes an effect termed “ketosis”. Ketosis is a natural body process and in simple terms means burning stored body fat for fuel.

When a person is in ketosis they often experience a sense of well being and experience little or no hunger. Ketosis is a natural appetite suppressant. Doing Kimkins a person can expect to be in ketosis in just a few short days. Symptoms normally include a copper taste in the mouth. Your breath will change as well.

Kimkins is certainly not the first low carb plan to introduce ketosis, but Kimkins offers a special advantage the other plans don’t. Motivation even before ketosis sets in by giving you what you really want in a weight loss plan. Fast results! That’s right — fast! You can expect to see a drop of up to 1 pound a day or more per day (varies from each individual) on average and sometimes even more!

Losing 5% (or more!) of your total body weight within 10 days is commonly reported by members.

Of course sometimes people who are accustomed to eating large portions may still feel hungry despite ketosis. We can help you adjust your menu and portions to suit your individual needs. Your comfort is important to us as well as to your own success.

No One Understands

Most importantly, here at Kimkins.com we know how you feel. We know the despair, humiliation and embarrassment that tend to go hand in hand with being overweight.

Maybe you have a high school reunion coming up and you want to look your best? Or perhaps the same clothes you wore last summer won’t button up today? Or maybe you saw a glimpse of yourself in a storefront window reflection and you no longer recognize that person!

Worse, recent photographs and videos often shock us. Often we don’t realize how our weight has spiraled out of control until we see the images on film.

Here at Kimkins we are made up of people who understand your situation because we’ve been there. Each and every single one of us knows what it’s like to be over weight. We are succeeding and you will too.

How Can We Make Such Claims?

Just ask our members at Kimkins.com! Our chat room is just one source of happy people who will tell you that Kimkins is highly effective and does deliver the promise of fast weight loss.

With nearly 40,000 members and rapidly growing, Kimkins.com has the support you need. Studies have shown that losing weight with a support group is far more effective than going it alone. So, come on in to Kimkins.com and start off by introducing yourself and head off to the Newbie Support forum to get started.

On the website you will find support, positive re-enforcement and helpful guidance from members and staff. These people started out just like you and they are succeeding! There’s always something interesting and fun goings on at Kimkins.com on the challenge forums, too! What could be more motivational than a group of people who are all losing with you?

And there’s more! We also offer weight loss challenges that benefit others in need — just by your success!

At certain times you will find fundraisers (optional for you to join) which help fund non profit organizations. For example, we are currently planning a challenge to benefit diabetes awareness. Plus, we have a breast cancer walk coming up in 2008.

We will be posting more about these fundraisers on our bulletin boards very soon.

Proof It Works

Want more proof that Kimkins works as promised?

How about People magazine, January 3, 2007 entitled Half Their Size? Yes, we have a weight loss success story, Mary Smith, on the cover who credits the Kimkins plan as part of her success!

And on the June 5, 2007 issue of Woman’s World magazine, we proudly feature another success story on the cover! Christin is a mom of 2 and lost 100 lbs on Kimkins in just 5 short months!

At Kimkins.com you will find many, many success stories. We hope the next one will be you!

Your Health

Even more important than your appearance is your health. Excess weight is a well known contributor to health problems and can cause a myriad of conditions including high blood pressure, high cholesterol and type 2 diabetes.

Excess weight can also be hard on the joints, can cause feet to swell and contributes to lower back problems. And let’s not forget fatigue and depression. Kimkins can help with the cure.

Understanding Why

On almost any corner there is a fast food restaurant, doughnut shops or convenient stores stocked with candy, junk food, sugary drinks, etc. Turn on the television and you’ll see plenty of promotions for unhealthy junk foods but rarely featuring an overweight host. It’s misleading, for sure.

But at Kimkins.com we can show you exactly which foods are making you over weight and unhealthy. We can also help you choose foods that will benefit your health as well as your weight.

Do I have To Buy Pre-packaged Foods?

No. Kimkins is simple. You will find everything you need at your local grocery store. Meal preparations are easy.

In fact, so easy and delicious that we have included a few sample recipes in the back of this book. Try them and see for yourself!

OK, What About Exercise? Do I have To Do It?

No. Exercise is a matter of personal choice. It is not necessary for weight loss while doing Kimkins. However, if you would like the benefits from exercising we do have an excellent exercise forum with like-minded members to encourage you.

But How Does Kimkins Work?

Kimkins is not just another low calorie plan. Nor is it just another low carb plan. Kimkins is unique. Again, we are proud to make the claim that there is no faster major weight loss plan — NONE! Come see for yourself at Kimkins.com.

Overheard on Our Boards

“I tried Atkins but it quit working for me. I tried South Beach and it didn’t work either. I even tried another low calorie diet called The Rotation diet and failed to lose anything. Then I found Kimkins and am proud to say today I have lost 112 lbs!”

Will I Gain The Weight Back Once I Hit Goal?

No. We will teach you what foods to eat to maintain your goal weight. Gradually you will be able to add more foods back into your diet until you find your own individual tolerances.

Will I Ever Be Able To Eat My Favorite Foods Again?

Yes. But, not every day or in the same quantity. Once you have reached your goal weight you will occasionally be able to treat yourself to a special food that was previously off limits during the weight loss phase.

Our maintenance plan offers a huge advantage over most plans. We allow a 5 lb span from your goal weight number. It’s a good idea to drop to the lower end of your weight loss span first, before you indulge. Then, if a certain food indulgence causes your weight to go over your comfort zone, simply return to a short round of Kimkins until the weight is back to the lower end. Normally this only takes a few days.

We recommend you keep a sharp eye on the scales and pay attention to how your clothes fit. Be vigilant and you can stay slim forever.

What Is My Goal Weight?

At Kimkins.com you will find a tool called My Virtual Model. The model is a replica of you according to your height and body structure. You can enter different weights and get an idea of what you will look like. This will help you determine your ideal weight.

Or, you may recall an earlier weight when you were most comfortable. Many already have that magic number in mind before they start Kimkins. Either way we can help you determine your goal weight.

A healthy BMI is just the beginning of the new you.

What If I Get Bored With Kimkins?

At Kimkins.com we have alternative weight loss plans that are all just as effective as the original Kimkins plan. The choice is yours! Feel free to try them all and find your own personal favorite. We even offer vegetarian choices.

My Doctor Says Lose Slower

Introducing the slower but steady plan! Kimkins can be cycled with a higher fat and higher calorie plan. Some people find they are more comfortable using this plan and can stay on target this way.

You may not get the fastest results, but you will still succeed. Just ask us how at Kimkins.com. We are here for you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Original Kimkins Diet
As much lean protein as desired from the Kimkins Food List
0-20 total carbs per day(no fiber or sugar alcohol subtraction)
0-3 cups List 1 veggies per day OR
0-2 cups List 1 veggies + 0-1 cup List 2 veggies per day
Use minimal fat to make your menu work (careful, calories count!)
No alcohol or low carb products (sugar free candy, energy bars, frozen meals)
Your appetite will reduce naturally after 3-5 days
Take a complete multivitamin each day plus other desired supplements

Favorite Simple Recipes

Ham & Egg Skillet

2 eggs, well beaten
2 oz lean ham, minced
2 mushrooms, sliced
1 green onion, minced
1 oz cheddar cheese, shredded

Spray nonstick skillet with nonstick spray. Add ham, mushrooms and onion, sauté on low until tender. Add eggs and cook until set, stirring constantly. Transfer to a warm plate, sprinkle with cheese and serve!

Beef & Broccoli Stir Fry

3 oz flank steak, well trimmed
½ cup broccoli florets, blanched or frozen thawed
2 tbsp beef broth
1 tsp lite soy sauce
¼ tsp sesame oil
½ tsp garlic minced
Salt and pepper to taste

Slice beef against the grain into 1/8 inch ribbons. Sprinkle with salt & pepper, set aside. In nonstick skillet add beef broth, soy sauce, sesame oil and garlic. Cook over low for 1 minute and then add beef. Cook quickly until no longer pink (about 2-3 minutes). Add broccoli, mix well and serve on warm plate.

And don’t forget the pancakes for breakfast either!

Cinnamon Egg White Pancakes

3 egg whites
¼ tsp cinnamon
Nonstick cooking spray, butter flavor
Davinci or Torani sugar free syrup

Beat 3 egg whites and cinnamon until stiff. Spray small saucepan with nonstick spray. Spread egg whites evenly into pan and cook on low. Once the underside is golden brown, spray top of egg with nonstick spray, flip and repeat for other side.

We use sugar free syrups on these tasty pancakes. Davinci or Torani syrups are delicious on these and in coffee or meal replacement shakes, too. These syrups are available at Walmart stores in the coffee isle. We also recommend I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter, Fat Free for these pancakes.

We hope you have enjoyed reading your e-book brought to you as a courtesy of Kimkins.com.

September 19, 2007 at 1:41 pm

Down with Kimkins!

This e-book clearly is not written by Heidi! I am aghast at all the grammatical and spelling errors. HD is too narcissistic to ever produce this travesty of “literature”.

From being at LCF for more than five years now, I can safely say that Tippy wrote this. Just look at some of her past posts and it becomes apparent that this is her writing style.

Also, I believe that if Kimmer wrote this she would have mentioned her favourite term, “The Domino Effect”.

Seriously ladies, and I use the term looslely, pack it in already. You have lost!!!

The TRUTH Outs Admins at Kimkins

Just moments ago ‘the TRUTH’, who comments across many blogs and recently launched their own blog, released confidential admin forum communications on their blog. Hat tip to theTRUTH!

We wonder if Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) recognizes the inside source leaking this information out? These communications are, after all, in a hidden forum area only accessible to admins!

Sept. 5

From Kimmer:
Handling Forum Posts/Questions
First, I want to thank everyone for their time and your kindness to help out on Kimkins forums. I don’t have to tell you that our strongest asset is our members — including all of you!

I might bear mentioning that our main goal at Kimkins is to help people lose weight. This isn’t always by offering food choice advice, but encouraging and suggesting choices — which all of you do.

Any questions of a medical nature can have a general reply or your own personal experience, but they should be encouraged to ask their doctor. I don’t think any of us are doctors, no doctor would diagnose over the internet anyway. I understand they are hesitant to go to the doctor or may have financial problems, but we’re not medical experts.

As you’ve probably read in forums I don’t like negativity threads. Not that there’s anything wrong with venting, but their tone spreads quickly and distracts from the work we’re doing here. Negativity & weight loss don’t mix and can affect your whole day (think of the last time you had an argument with a spouse or coworker).

There’s a ton of places they can go to complain about me, I’d rather it not be here.

Again, thanks everyone, I really appreciate your help. I’m a bit behind with no computer for a week, but I’m working hard to get caught up. If anyone has more questions or wants to add anything, feel free!

K.

Sept., 6
From TippyToes

Re:Handling Forum Posts/Questions
I agree. The time we are spending hunting out the nay sayers is time we could have spent helping people. If any of you admins see negative posting, by all means delete it even if you have to delete the entire thread. And report the person who posted the offense to Kimmer right away, please. We are going to start banning with no refund. Because we are a paid site, I doubt too many will pay $ to come back just to cause trouble. Thanks again, everyone. This too shall pass…

From AdminXXX (Name removed because Admin has since resigned. Had too much sense I guess…)
Re:Handling Forum Posts/Questions
Wow, that’s a big step. I hope there was something in the terms of service that reserves the right to do that (or to change the terms of service). If not, that could create some kind of legal issue (or at least very hard feelings), since people are paying for lifetime memberships.

May I suggest:
- setting some very, very specific guidelines on what is and isn’t appropriate.
- setting a specific banning procedure, including a set of warnings
- making absolutely certain that everybody is informed about the guidelines and the banning procedure

Sept. 11
From SingingLass:
Something I felt i should make a note on…..is we should pay attention to questions in certain areas right now. Primarily questions in the fields the other sites are trying to claim as a negative of this plan right now…..such as calories, laxitives, children and the like. I do read the other stuff occassionally, I am not affected by it, but like to just keep tabs a bit on what is going on…..and one of the things I have seen is people wanting to try to manifest dirt—-so a harmless seeming question about how low they can go with calories or laxatives could potentially be a setup to try to get a response they can use somehow. I may sound paranoid, but I think it is a very real issue right now that should be considered in our responses….I personally am trying to be “safe” in my responses, refer to the reading, eating when hungry, and of course to check with doctor.

For instance, there is a thread in newbie forum right now “fat grams”…..of someone wanting to do the diet with nothing but shakes, and it just struck me a little odd on how they keep asking the same questions over and over about how low calories can go ignoring the responses……and got really aggressive towards me in my response. They seem to be looking for an exact number or an answer that says there is no limit to how low they can go. Again, this could be me being paranoid….but is an example of being alert to odd questions or behaviors.

From Kimmer:
Delaney, good point. Yes, they’re out … looking for anything that can be twisted or taken out of context. Hard to believe this is how some people actually spend their day.

90 pounds! Wow!

Sept. 14
From TippyToes:
Singing lass, you are one smart cookie! They won’t be tricking you. I too am keeping tabs on things over there. I feel we can use them for improvements to the site here. In a very odd way, we can use the negatives in a positive way.

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September 18, 2007 at 8:38 pm

La Mesa

I can’t believe what a scum bag tippy toes is….’ths too shall pass’ what a pathetic excuse for a human being to partner up with heidi the devil!

September 18, 2007 at 8:40 pm

La Mesa

Again..Tippy toes…just as evil as heidi!

September 18, 2007 at 8:42 pm

LastLCer

ROFLMAO, Tippy sure thinks she’s smarter than the average bear…NOT!

September 18, 2007 at 8:43 pm

Swinging Higher

Are you planning to do an expose on the remaining admins any time soon?

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The other admins profiles are in progress at the moment. We encourage those reading here to share any pertinent information in the comments and include “DO NOT POST” at the start if they wish the information to be confidential and anonymous.

September 18, 2007 at 8:43 pm

Barb

I love how they think they don’t have to refund money to people who get banned for NO REASON! You’ll find out you do! TT obviously is of the same calibur as that BIG FAT LIAR Heidi Diaz!

September 18, 2007 at 8:43 pm

ROFL

I had no clue there was a private admin forum over there. That they’re actually discussing how to ban members without refunds is sick.

September 18, 2007 at 8:45 pm

Josh

Just when you think nothing will surprise you, you’re surprised. I’m sure the admin who left — the only one with any common sense obviously — wishes they’d never been involved with this whole thing. This all is so disgusting to see. People can be really cruel to each other, can’t they?

September 18, 2007 at 8:55 pm

Terri

Disgusting!

September 18, 2007 at 9:00 pm

Kim

IMO they sound paranoid. Just trying to get the bad stuff off asap so they can continue to rope in newbies.

September 18, 2007 at 9:01 pm

Mir

I hope someone has the original TOS from when the mass of people signed up. I suspect that lots of fiddling will go on. If lifetime membership was not limited by the membership agreement–ie, if it didn’t say you could be banned sans refund for being “negative”–then I don’t see how they have the justification. You can’t run a site on the whims of teh dictator. There have to be standards and rules and people have to be able to know that the rules are stable, not changing according to She-Stalin’s whims.

She would have been much smarter allowing ONE “vent and ask” thread and let her henchwomen handle it on an ongoing basis. Heck, hire someone, use some of that 2 millions bucks, and let them be the vent-hostess.

When you let people talk and vent, you at least seem like a civilized, democratic person.

When you summarily delete and banish, well, you show your true colors.

Did the original agreement demand members never say anything critical of Heidi-Liedy? Did it say no negative comments on the forums? If not, then how can they use that as justificaton for banishment and censorship?

M.

September 18, 2007 at 9:11 pm

OddManOut

[i]Sept., 6
From TippyToes[/i]

Sooo. Tippy Toes was an admin days before she was officially announced? Interesting.

September 18, 2007 at 9:13 pm

Joey

They’ve got some balls, that’s for sure!

September 18, 2007 at 9:17 pm

too bad kimmer

Does this mean that “Pants on Fire” violated the TOS of the BBB by posting as an employee of Kimkins?

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It does indeed appear that Tippy Toes did violate the rules of the BBB for reviewing a company when she did so while an employee/admin.

September 18, 2007 at 9:30 pm

ixtapacheryl

Doesn’t surprise me in the least! I’m just shocked that they are all so cavalier towards their paying members. Don’t kid yourself – they could care less about any of their members losing weight or keeping it off. All they’re worried about is the negativity that is circling inside the KK site and eradicating it as soon as they can spot it. None of them want to deal with reality – it’s easier to ban and ignore.

Different day – same story!

September 18, 2007 at 9:51 pm

theTRUTH

Gee. If it is only accessible to Admins, how did I get at it?

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Ducky’ll never tell!

September 18, 2007 at 10:04 pm

Stiff

As for terms of service, this looks new to me:

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The Kimkins Program is provided in electronic media and as such cannot be returned for refund once purchased and accessed. Members may not harass, annoy, badger, bully or act in an offensive manner to other members or administration. Violators will have their accounts canceled and no refund given.

This website comprises various websites and pages operated by Kimkins.com and the information contained therein (together, the “website”). Certain sections of the website may contain separate terms and conditions, which are in addition to this agreement. You should read those additional terms and conditions carefully. By accessing such sections or pages, you agree to be bound by those additional terms and conditions. In the event of a conflict, those additional terms and conditions will govern your use of those sections or pages.
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Since when did it say accounts will be cancelled and no refunds given?

And where is this justified? What are her guidelines for being offensive? Some specifics would be nice.
The Anonymous Admin definitely said it well.

September 18, 2007 at 10:14 pm

WOW

Tippy…you really got alot on the ball don’t you.

Your’e gonna need all the “positives” you can get to get you out of this mess LOL.

September 18, 2007 at 10:18 pm

Leslie

Kimmer has a big problem.

She has an admin within her trusted circle betraying her.

What will she do next?

Will she fire them all?

How will she really know which one it is?

They’ll all deny it was them, but one will be lying!

I know who the TRUTH is, but I’m not telling!

September 18, 2007 at 10:19 pm

WOW

It’s quite the racket over there eh???

Take their money and ban them….and none of the new sign ups will know a thing about it until they themselves question whats going on….then they in turn will suffer the same fate…..

It’s a renewing resource…a money generating scam.

September 18, 2007 at 10:28 pm

RayOfFriknSunshine

Curious as I am to know who the Truth is, I hope s/he isn’t outed. Keep it up, whoever you are!

September 18, 2007 at 10:37 pm

MariaM

TRUTH should use his contact to do a global email to everyone in the kimkins database, complete with a history of everything going on and links to all these blogs so members who don’t wander around much get to see what’s going on!

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Kimmer may be the only one with privleges to do such a mass emailing, but with the mass emailing today of the email-ebook-advertisement, it’s obvious such a mailing is possible.

We really like your idea and hope theTRUTH sees it and takes action on it if possible, it’s simply duckilicious!

September 18, 2007 at 10:40 pm

Mimi

uhm… don’t you mean “withIN” her trusted circle? At any rate, the paranoia is delicious ain’t it … who is it, Heidi? who is the mongoose scampering around there in the snakepit?

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Good catch, we edited it for them!

September 19, 2007 at 12:24 am

ixtapacheryl

Mimi: Don’t you mean Meerkat ….. On it’s hind legs always on the look-out …..

September 19, 2007 at 1:01 am

Selenabj

Well isn’t Tippy Toes just a vile piece of vermin. Who does that little idiot think she is?? Her psychological profile would probably be that of a poor homely little fat girl who had self esteem issues. Now, the Great and Powerful OZ comes to use her and she is basking in the glory of her greatness. Get real Miss Tippy. You are not powerful. You are a nothing among a group of nothings. I love this mentality- “hey SL, you are one smart cookie . THEY won’t be tricking you… ” oh yeah Miss Tippy?
When you come crawling back to your old forum, begging people to understand what a fool you were, I hope they turn their backs on you.

And then Big Kimmer makes her profound statement-
“Hard to believe this is how some people actually spend their day.”
Funny, that is exactly what I was thinking about you!!
Can anyone say POND SCUM??

September 19, 2007 at 1:51 am

Mimi

PS to Duckie and Leslie — I wasn’t criticizing or laughing at the typo … just wanted to add my two cents to the amusement re Heidi being unable — truly unable — to trust even those in her inner circle.

The thing is, she seems either unable or unwilling to “get” that the reason she can’t trust “friends” or enemies is her own fault.

September 19, 2007 at 3:28 am

Mimi

Mongoose. Snake’s worst enemy. Besides Ducks of course

September 19, 2007 at 4:58 am

count padunkadunk

Tippy how sad that you do not see what you have become. Maybe you have always been this way and I am just now seeing.

September 19, 2007 at 1:36 pm

Kim

Well, I was banned w/o a refund and didn’t post anything negative. I got banned for the BBB complaint so she still has some revising to do to get it right. Oh wait! If you sign up, the TOS is what it is when you sign up, not what she changes it to daily to cover her @$$. That’s like business law 101…and the lesson that we were all taught when we were 2 by our parents…you can’t change the rules after the game starts. Maybe Heidi was raised by wolves and never learned those lessons…it would explain a lot don’t you think?

September 20, 2007 at 3:05 am

Got my hip boots on

If you wanna see some real vileness you all should maybe look in the mirror and see the snarly wild-eyed hounds you have become. This isn’t about saving people, it’s about getting your rocks off hunting someone down. Pretty obvious to those of us who are still sane.

Kimkins Members Being Watched

We’ve previously reported on the spyware installed on member computers when they log in to the Kimkins website. While its existence has been downplayed and chalked up to other sites utilizing similar tracking technologies, we learned this weekend that Kimkins members are also admittedly followed around online, to other forums to see what they’re saying outside the Kimkins website!

As much was admitted by a newer admin, SingingLass, this weekend when a Kimkins member had her personal journal suddenly deleted without warning. The furor caused by that incident is already detailed on the blog The TRUTH Starts Here.

Here, we’d like to point to one paragraph, penned by SingingLass, that should send chills down the spine of any Kimkins members remaining,

The journal in question, various posts made across the boards, and that individual’s signature were being utilized to bring in/ link to the negativity elsewhere. They knew full well what they were doing and why things had to be removed….as was seen in their boasts elsewhere. The policy regarding such behavior has been made pretty clear, both by Kimmer, and the requests of the members here wanting to be able to focus on their weight loss without the interuption of those who participate only to cause problems or report to other sites.

Not only does SingingLass appear to believe she can know another’s intent, but she clearly admits that the member whose entire personal journal was deleted was being watched elsewhere online, outside the Kimkins website!

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September 17, 2007 at 7:49 pm

Ban ME Kimmer!

WTF!

Who the hell are they to watch what any paying member of their site does OUTSIDE the kk website?

September 17, 2007 at 7:49 pm

Josh

That’s whacked!

September 17, 2007 at 7:54 pm

Maggie

WOWSERS!

An admin there actually admits they’re spying on their paying members when they’re at other forums online!

That is just disgusting!!!!!

September 17, 2007 at 7:57 pm

theTRUTH

Don’t forget these parts:

“What many of you apparently did not see was that individual running through all the boards, making post after post that was direct problem causing. Following that, they went to another site where they were congratulated by many for their actions, and bragging and admitance to what they did…. and why…. was presented.”

and

“By all means feel free to participate on other message boards, websites, communities…there is no reason at all to not be able to do so. I myself am involved on many—spanning different kinds of subject matters. The problem is only with a small group of people bouncing site to site, publically gloating and bragging about activities being done specifically to cause harm and distruption on this site and for the members here. I imagine you can understand why we would want to discourage that.”

Also, a former admin asked openly in her lowcarbdiscussion journal if someone could check to see if her signature still had a link the her blog. I checked, and it did. The next morning, said link was gone, (after being there for weeks after her banning). So, yes, her flying monkeys are reading all the blog posts, comments, and discussion boards.

September 17, 2007 at 8:43 pm

Scoble

Let’s not forget now, (as I learned from reading “Kimmer’s” PMs to her pet admin SingingLass) SingingLass is a psychic of sorts and she might just be able to intuit where everyone is going on the internet! ;^)

September 17, 2007 at 8:59 pm

LCer

That’s downright disturbing that they think it’s OK to follow members around to see what they’re doing on other forums.

SingingLass should be ashamed of herself!

September 17, 2007 at 9:15 pm

Concerned about kimkins

I still think Singing lass is Heidi’s other persona. She clearly has multiples. If not singing lass needs a good wake up smack. Sheesh!

September 17, 2007 at 10:04 pm

Julie

No Singinglass is not Heidi. More’s the pity.

For the record, I was not “boasting” all over creation about putting links in my signature and blog. I was not out to cause trouble. However, when I posted those links in response to a question about what happened to Deni, Christin, and Becky, my post was deleted. Heidi created the “Kimmer Chatter” forum ostensibly so people could talk about the controversy in that one place. I realized when my post was deleted that the admins and Heidi had no intention of allowing any meaningful discussion of the issues. Only at that point did I provide links in my signature and journal.

September 17, 2007 at 10:11 pm

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September 17, 2007 at 10:49 pm

ghoov

Julie, most likely she wanted everything discussed in one place is so she could more easily find anything she deemed offensive. A Forum can become a large place and it’s hard to read every single post.

In other words, she wanted to make her censorship more convenient.

September 18, 2007 at 1:41 pm

theTRUTH

Yeah, Singing(L)ass is not Heidi. Just her “mini-me”. I hear she and Tippy are going to have a pay-per-view catfight for Kimmer’s love, to benefit Kimmer’s foster kids…

The first member quoted in my blog post has also now been banned.

September 18, 2007 at 2:04 pm

anonymous

Newest Admin speaks up in the chatter.. with foul language and all!!!

“Perhaps you two can explain something to me, did you pay the subscription price for this site? I believe you did. Did you receive what you paid for? Again I believe you did ( you paid for a diet plan and got 5 of them along with a wealth of other material). If your not satisfied with the plan, then your free to leave at any time you wish. However understand that if you continue to post negative comments about the plan on these forums you run the risk of being banned from them.

Now of course there is a difference between posting an occasional concern or vent over some aspect of the plan your having trouble with or don’t like and posting blatantly negative comments about either the plan or kimmer. Personally I don’t give a damn what you think about the plan, and if you can’t be supportive I would happily ban you but that’s not my job here. I am here to ensure that negativity is kept to a minimum.”

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Can you tell us which admin wrote those words?

Wait, as the Church Lady on Saturady Night Live would say, “Nevermind”

September 18, 2007 at 3:19 pm

Kim

Negativity kept to a minimum? Um – isn’t that post kind of negative in itself?

Geez – reading it kind of took me back to grade school with the nuns waving their finger in my face telling me that good little catholic girls didn’t say anything bad about other people.

September 18, 2007 at 3:50 pm

theTRUTH

I have blogged the posts referenced by anonymous above, if you want to read the whole thing.

September 18, 2007 at 4:39 pm

theTRUTH

http://thetruthinhiding.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-admin-competes-for-kimmers.html

Kimkins Dangers Reachs Out…

On Saturday, Kimkins Dangers reached out in a post to current staff, admins and members. It is an open letter worth repeating!

Dear Kimkins Staff, Forum Admins, Affiliates and Members,

Much has happened to Kimkins over the course of the last month, none of it good. Many loved and well respected members have fled the scene, Becky, Christin and Deni among them. All of them had their reasons and many of their reasons were the same. Please click on each name to read their own accounts of their time at Kimkins. Really. Read them. These are the stories of three women who had cheered for Kimmer and Kimkins for a long time. They had promoted the diet to their friends and others. They worked very closely with Kimmer to forge the foundations of the plan that you are now following and promoting to others. You need to understand why they left. They are not “haters”. They are not “jealous”. They are not Kimmer’s ex-business partner (and neither are we, fyi.). They truly believed in Kimkins and in Kimmer and you owe it to yourself to find out why they changed their minds.

In case you haven’t noticed, there has been a mass exodus of Kimkins members recently. Some of them voluntary, but many were banned for airing their opinions or asking questions that were uncomfortable for Kimmer. They are also not haters, nor are they jealous. They were paid, lifetime members that had concerns that Kimmer would not answer. They wanted to know, from Kimmer’s own words, if the bloggers and forum posts about Kimkins were true. They wanted to know if those pictures posted on slamboard really are of Kimmer now. They just wanted to know. Instead of answers, they were banned from accessing the site that they paid for. Why is that?

One of the new admins is now posting stories that this entire mess was begun by Catherine, Kimmer’s ex-business partner. We assure you that is not the case. We do not know Catherine, have never exchanged a single email with her or have had any contact with her at all. We know of her story, but that is it. We here at Kimkins Dangers are not jealous and we are not haters.

We are very worried about everyone that is on the Kimkins diet plans. We are worried about your health first and foremost, for even though you may not believe that the diet can be dangerous, there is ample information that says otherwise. Information that comes not from personal experience, though that is also available, but from medical studies, peer reviewed case histories and the like. Real, factual, honest evidence, not supposition and opinion.

We are also concerned for those Kimkins members, staff, admins and affiliates for the possible legal liability that they may soon face. The lawyer that is spearheading the class action lawsuit has now confirmed his involvement and has been sent reams of information and evidence pertaining to the Kimkins website, it’s owner and it’s staff.

We know that the California Office of the Foster Care Ombudsman is actively investigating the situation, specifically as it pertains to Heidi’s claims of foster children in her care and the subsequent fundraiser that ensued. The same member that began that fundraiser is now asking other members to partake in yet another fundraiser, though this time for diabetes, allegedly.

Other agencies, local, state and federal are likely to become involved in the near future. This again is not simply opinion, we state this as fact. We will not say anything more on this at this particular time to protect the parties involved and the work that is being done. But be assured, the work IS being done.

If you have been contemplating leaving the sinking ship that is Kimkins, now would be the time. We have read all of the excuses, the ones that say that it does not matter if Kimmer weighs 300 pounds or more, the ones that say it doesn’t matter if she’s lied about this, that or any other thing, the ones that insist the diet is safe and healthy, even the ones that say they aren’t doing the diet, but want to remain for the friendship and camaraderie of the forums. Whatever the reason, understand that the window of opportunity is closing and the time to leave is now.

It matters greatly that Kimmer weighs 300 pounds or more. She sold her plan based on her own claims of having lost 198 pounds in 11 months. This was not true. False claims have crippled companies much larger than Kimkins and they will bring Kimkins to it’s knees as well.

It matters greatly that Kimmer has lied about this, that and the other thing. The list of her lies is very long and growing every day. Integrity is something you should place a very high value on, not eschew in favor of a “quick fix” to your weight issue.

For those who are simply staying for the friendship and the forums, there are many other places you can go where you will be welcomed and supported, yes, even LCF. Active-LowCarber forums, Jimmy Moore’s forums, Amy/Curlygirl’s website, etc., etc. Please consider joining one of these communities as you will find many other ex-kimkins members there as well.

When Kimmer states that there is nothing more dangerous than being overweight, understand that this is not true. Read the stories of those who have suffered health problems as a result of following Kimmer’s diet plans here. Read the medical evidence that shows clearly why diets such as Kimkins are truly dangerous, not only in the short term, but also in the long term. You may not have any symptoms right now, but continue along that dangerous path, and you will very likely end up far worse off than you are now. Please do your research. Your health is not worth wasting simply to lose weight faster.

Many people say “but the diet works for me!” Well, of course it does, for awhile. Anyone that doesn’t eat more than 500-800 calories a day will lose weight, for awhile. They will see the scale dropping quickly, for awhile. They will slowly begin to see other problems cropping up. Hair loss, amenorrhea, dizziness, fainting, heart palpitations and other symptoms of malnutrition and dangerously rapid weight loss. Crack cocaine makes people lose weight quickly too, but you wouldn’t use that, would you?

Please, consider the information that is presented all over the web. Read the blogs. Read the forums. Do the research and discovered for yourself the truth that you so desperately need to know. Open your eyes and you will see.

Please do it now before it’s too late.

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September 17, 2007 at 6:30 pm

theTRUTH

Crack makes you lose weight quickly? Kimmer! What a great Idea! You can add a 6th option to Kimkins and make another boatload!

September 17, 2007 at 9:55 pm

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September 18, 2007 at 6:03 pm

OddManOut

Have there been any responses from the current staff? I don’t expect them to speak out since they’re taking the lead from the boss herself, but there’s always a chance that one of them will break radio silence (and probably get banned haha).

Another One Bites the Dust

Another member within the Kimkins website bid farewell,

‘My Goodbye! I am really upset to have to write this, but I feel it is time! I have been dragging this out, I guess in hopes that Kimmer would come forward and tell all of us the truth once and for all! My fellow recommitters, I am sorry to do this! I wish you all the very best!!!

In the beginning when all this started, I was very much on Kimmer’s/Heidi’s side. I would mentally make the same excuses that others are now making! It doesn’t matter who she is, if she’s fictional, if she’s fat, thin, whatever! But I think the sadness is coming from people who worked with her for awhile and then were hurt by her! Such as the previous admins . . . do you really think one morning they just woke up and decided they were anti-kimkins? I don’t think so! They were the heart and soul of this place!! There is a long story and circumstances involved that we don’t really know about that has led up to this point!

I personally think it matters very much who Kimmer is! Regardless of what most you say, I think you care too! If she is not who she says she is then how can we trust her to have OUR best interests at heart? If all the people who had been doing the Dr, Atkin’s diet for years and years suddenly found out that he was not nor had he ever been a doctor, they would have been hurt! Even though 99.9% percent of the people who ever did his diet never ‘knew’ him, nor did they have a right to, they would have still been hurt! When you are dealing with people’s weight loss problem, there are a lot of emotional issues involved and trust is one of them!

Yes, I am hurt that Kimmer won’t stand up for all of us who trusted her! It hurts that she doesn’t care enough about us to make a stand and prove that she is who she says she is! Not because we have the right to know, but because we are/were loyal to her and her diet! Shy personality or not, it would only take her 5 minutes to come on this website and tell us the truth! So why doesn’t she, out of loyalty to us?? If it were me, I would feel obligated to the people that had my back!!

All that being said, I think this was a great place for awhile! Now, after all I’ve learned or not learned, I don’t think I can be here anymore! I have been really dreading this moment when I have to say goodbye, because I know after I post this I will be banned just like other previous, loyal members! I will dreadfully miss all the new friends I have made here! It’s hard to lose weight on your own and the support here is the best that can be found!! As far as the diet goes, I think it’s a good plan. I never dropped my calories under 800, most of the time they were around 1000 per day. There IS such a thing as starvation mode! Ask any doctor!!

I hope all of you find what you are truly looking for and that you become healthy, thin and happy people!!”

At some point today, this will be deleted, as other such threads have disappeared too. We will continue to post goodbyes as we learn of them because their content is telling. People within Kimkins are coming out of the slumber and speaking out, albeit as long as their post remains.

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September 12, 2007 at 4:44 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Good for her! Way to go standing up for yourself. And it’s ok if she bans you she will soon have to refund your money. And if you used paypal, just go dispute it

September 12, 2007 at 9:50 pm

Watcher

Heidi doesn’t have to refund to “Leavers.” It’s only to the “Banned.”

September 13, 2007 at 1:36 am

EAT People, EAT!

What happened to admin Lisa? I never saw her leave!

Another One Bites the Dust

Another member within the Kimkins website bid farewell,

‘My Goodbye! I am really upset to have to write this, but I feel it is time! I have been dragging this out, I guess in hopes that Kimmer would come forward and tell all of us the truth once and for all! My fellow recommitters, I am sorry to do this! I wish you all the very best!!!

In the beginning when all this started, I was very much on Kimmer’s/Heidi’s side. I would mentally make the same excuses that others are now making! It doesn’t matter who she is, if she’s fictional, if she’s fat, thin, whatever! But I think the sadness is coming from people who worked with her for awhile and then were hurt by her! Such as the previous admins . . . do you really think one morning they just woke up and decided they were anti-kimkins? I don’t think so! They were the heart and soul of this place!! There is a long story and circumstances involved that we don’t really know about that has led up to this point!

I personally think it matters very much who Kimmer is! Regardless of what most you say, I think you care too! If she is not who she says she is then how can we trust her to have OUR best interests at heart? If all the people who had been doing the Dr, Atkin’s diet for years and years suddenly found out that he was not nor had he ever been a doctor, they would have been hurt! Even though 99.9% percent of the people who ever did his diet never ‘knew’ him, nor did they have a right to, they would have still been hurt! When you are dealing with people’s weight loss problem, there are a lot of emotional issues involved and trust is one of them!

Yes, I am hurt that Kimmer won’t stand up for all of us who trusted her! It hurts that she doesn’t care enough about us to make a stand and prove that she is who she says she is! Not because we have the right to know, but because we are/were loyal to her and her diet! Shy personality or not, it would only take her 5 minutes to come on this website and tell us the truth! So why doesn’t she, out of loyalty to us?? If it were me, I would feel obligated to the people that had my back!!

All that being said, I think this was a great place for awhile! Now, after all I’ve learned or not learned, I don’t think I can be here anymore! I have been really dreading this moment when I have to say goodbye, because I know after I post this I will be banned just like other previous, loyal members! I will dreadfully miss all the new friends I have made here! It’s hard to lose weight on your own and the support here is the best that can be found!! As far as the diet goes, I think it’s a good plan. I never dropped my calories under 800, most of the time they were around 1000 per day. There IS such a thing as starvation mode! Ask any doctor!!

I hope all of you find what you are truly looking for and that you become healthy, thin and happy people!!”

At some point today, this will be deleted, as other such threads have disappeared too. We will continue to post goodbyes as we learn of them because their content is telling. People within Kimkins are coming out of the slumber and speaking out, albeit as long as their post remains.

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September 12, 2007 at 4:44 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Good for her! Way to go standing up for yourself. And it’s ok if she bans you she will soon have to refund your money. And if you used paypal, just go dispute it

September 12, 2007 at 9:50 pm

Watcher

Heidi doesn’t have to refund to “Leavers.” It’s only to the “Banned.”

September 13, 2007 at 1:36 am

EAT People, EAT!

What happened to admin Lisa? I never saw her leave!

Getting to Know Tippy Toes

One of the newest admins at Kimkins is Jeannie Baitinger, aka ‘Tippy Toes’ in the Kimkins forums and Low Carb Friends forums. For the purpose of keeping things simple here, we’ll refer to her as ‘Tippy’ throughout.

Tippy joined Low Carb Friends back in April 2004 when she started a low carbohydrate diet (Atkins) and weighed 263 pounds. Since that time she’s admittedly struggled to lose the weight desired and declared herself at goal on September 8, 2006 after losing 100 pounds. In the last year she’s maintained her weight between 150 and 155 pounds, alternating between Atkins and Kimkins. Why we make this an issue is that she recently wrote a positive 5 star review at the BBB for Kimkins, on September 7, 2007,

This is the BEST weight loss website I have been to yet! Thanks to Kimkins.com I have lost 112 lbs, have never been sick, got off blood pressure and cholesterol meds and I feel terrific! I have NEVER experienced anything but positive help from the site and I was NEVER told to use laxitives OR lower calories–ever.I cannot say enough good things about the website. I tried other weight loss plans and they did not work but that Kimkins sure did! And I have medical records and pictures to prove it. Just ask me for them.

Within the Low Carb Friends postings she’s made, it’s clear she did not follow Kimkins exclusively.
In fact, through her own posts at Low Carb Friends, we learn she lost 47 pounds following Atkins, stalled for six months, moved to South Beach, then Eat Fat Get Thin, then a Fruit Rotation regiment, then Kimkins, and then finally a rotation of Atkins and Kimkins.

Yet, in the above review she attributes her entire weight loss to Kimkins. This may well be because she was the featured weight loss success recently in the Kimkins newsletter (issue 20). In that feature she states she started with Atkins and then found Kimkins when her weight loss stalled, she was frustrated and “starving and felt terrible…I was desperate.” In that feature she also willingly states she alternates between Kimkins and Atkins. This fact is curious given Kimmer’s (Heidi Diaz) disdain for Atkins and its allowance for higher fat meats and dairy. When we review the situation, it is clearer why Kimmer is open to Tippy saying many of the things she does in her success story. Kimmer is losing staff left and right and needs to replace staffers fleeing her company and site. She knows one thing about Tippy, and that’s her long standing desire to be an Admin at Low Carb Friends, a position she is now more than willing to extend to Tippy now that she, Kimmer, is desperate.We recently learned that over the years Tippy has long desired a position of Admin at Low Carb Friends and has made this desire known to many close to her, including Kimmer prior to her departure from that forum.

Last year Tippy stirred up things on a weight loss challenge thread on Low Carb Friends by being very critical of the Low Carb Friends admins at the time. She made it known she believed she was qualified to be an Admin and when a position as one was not offered, she started passing along private information about the Low Carb Friends admins behind the scenes in emails and Private Messages in an attempt to turn them on each other. In those communications we are told she alluded to questionable behavior by the Low Carb Friends Admins at a pig roast in Tennessee she attended, allegations we will not detail here, but suffice to say included implications of inpropriety between Admins whom were not married to each other.

An attention junkie like Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) she spent months attempting to garner a position of Admin within Low Carb Friends to no avail, but her desire to be one continued.

As soon as Kimmer offered an Admin position to Tippy, she jumped at it and quickly told her friends, expressing her delight at the opportunity. We’re told she said she was thrilled by the “authority” Kimmer entrusted her with and also expressed a grand plan to completely revamp the Kimkins diet plans into something she believed would be healthier and much less objectionable to those concerned over the safety of the plans as currently written.

May we remind her she need only look as far as Becky to see such changes will not be tolerated by Kimmer. Read Becky’s Reasonable Appeal to make changes and Kimmer’s reply point by point.

What is more disturbing than her less than accurate BBB review however, is that she’s taken to doing Kimmer’s biding on Low Carb Friends. In a very recent post there, she laid the groundwork to instill doubts in the minds of those concerned about Kimkins and Kimmer by questioning not only the motivation of those engaging on the Facination thread, but also attempted to lay blame for the entire situation on one individual, former business partner Catherine (whose husband is releasing details of that partnership at Slamboard).

Her post, titled Are We Being Used, includes the following,

Just a thought. Notice the person who started this thread is a junior member (meaning newly registered) and does not continue to post? Notice so many junior members coming in now? It is easy to assume they are from Kimkins site BUT I wonder about the truth in that assumption for many reasons. One, I recall Catherine telling X LCF members how easily identity can change so they could come back without admins knowing it was them… Cutie–remember that? Two, I notice the junior members seem computer savvy enough to post info and pics I would not have a clue about myself… Now I am not saying every single junior member here is ficticious. But I think many may be. Tom, can you check out this possibility?Is it possible this whole thing has been created by the ex biz partner, who is clearly mad as heck? Also, keep in mind it is the same creator of slamboards and…perhaps Ducky? Oddly enough, Catherine admits it was her idea to start a website for Kimkins–not Kimmers. So I don’t think Kimmer spent countless hours here plotting but I think Catherine did. Also, Catherine just thought Kimkins was a wonderful plan and fully endorsed and followed it, according to her. Until the partnership disolved, that is. Now it can kill you…WTH?

And the Kimkins survivors blogs… Are they real? How do we know? And the 14 year old–was that real?
The threats to anyone who is a moderator for her site–threats of fraud and lawsuits… A bully tactic for sure to intimidate them into walking out. The claims of KimATC being 50 lbs over weight…How rude was that, asking her how that Kimkins diet was working out? In fact, that statement points that Kimkins doesn’t work and we have established it does. We all have weight problems which is why we diet. The pressure is on–but by whom? The reasons seem pretty obvious.

Don’t get me wrong. I KNOW there are some of those people here in a genuine manner. I know a couple of you from her site and I know you had concerns (even if you are ALL at goal now thanks to her diet). I do not agree with cutting calories further in the event of a stall either. But perhaps Kimmer was in the learning process herself and it was a bad decision, or mistake. And maybe Kimmer did gain weight back and won’t tell. Take a good look around this site. How many people have gained their weight back and refuse to remove the skinny avitor pics and change stats accordingly? I think many of us are guilty for that.

Are we all puppets on a string being manipulated by a raging X partner?

We know in the past Kimmer has taken to manipulating situations to motivate individuals to do things they might not do on their own. An example of such behaviour in the past is the January 2007 blog by Jimmy Moore, where he attacked Low Carb Friends and did so in a scathing and vicious manner. He’s since retracted that post, but our memory is long here and we’ve been told that Kimmer’s input was indeed the impetus for that post.

It’s interesting that many of the points Tippy brought to her post at Low Carb Friends are now the same points Kimmer is trying deperately to convince her members of within the Kimkins forums. It appears much of Tippy’s post contents were scripted by Kimmer. Tippy seems unaware of the manipulative instincts of Kimmer and may not realize how she too is now being used by her as a means to an end.We ask this, Tippy how could you associate yourself with Kimmer given all the facts now in the public view?

EDITED TO ADD
We’d like to remind readers that this is the same Tippy Toes who organized the fundraiser for Kimmer’s (Heidi Diaz) phantom foster children last summer. Tippy accepted the position of Admin after revelation of the fact Heidi Diaz has no foster children and has not had foster children in her care since at least 2000.

Bye-Bye KimATC

After we provided some background details on one Kimkins staffer, KimATC, she quickly fled into the confines of the Kimkins website, leaving her friends at Low Carb Friends.

Guess what Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will wake up to learn?

Today, in a move calculated to ensure some readers saw it before it is deleted, she posted her goodbye to members.

Bye-Bye KimATC!

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September 10, 2007 at 1:44 pm

kimatc

Okay enough is enough. I did NOT stop posting at LCF because of Kimmer – it never had ANYTHING to do with her. I stopped posting at LCF because someone I thought was a good friend posted personal and private information that was only shared in an email. An unknown blogger (I think you are “RightNow” at LCF right?) doesn’t have that kind of power.

September 10, 2007 at 1:45 pm

kimatc

and you will delete my name out of your search word list

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You were a legitimate employee of Kimkins, therefore a valid search term here as we profiled your position and relationship to the Kimkins website. Sorry, no can do!

September 10, 2007 at 3:29 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Kim I would assume since you are a “certified trainer” you would not condone a program that boasts the ability to lose mass amounts of weight with no exercise. That’s just my thought on it though. AND her name is HEIDI! But good job for leaving non the less.

September 10, 2007 at 3:55 pm

Chimp

KimATC is a victim!

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 3:59 pm

Kimkins Dangers

We are hearing that KimATC is in fact banned from the Kimkins website. Is this true?

September 10, 2007 at 4:12 pm

Chimp

I think so. It’s posted here.

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 4:36 pm

flowerpower

According to the thread Chimp posted, KimATC is blaming me for information posted about her. If anyone knows why, I’d love to hear it. What did the author of this blog ever get from me? I don’t even know who this author is? I would have guessed Tooter, but it doesn’t matter.

My concern for KimATC all along was the fact that I believed Kimmer was taking advantage of her. I posted about that quite a few times on the fascination thread and elsewhere on LCF.

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We will clarify what we can. While we will not divulge our source, we can assure you our original information on the issue did not originate from Flowerpower or someone named Tooter.

September 10, 2007 at 4:46 pm

OddManOut

Ducky you said you’d remove it.

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/getting-to-know-you-kimatc/

August 24th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

Maggie
Ducky, if KimATC disassociated with Kimkins and quit her staff position, would you remove this post about her?

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While she remains on staff and promoted as such, she remains part of the Kimkins team, thus this post shall remain. If she leaves Kimkins and is no longer on staff and is removed from the Kimkins team page, and no longer is providing advice within the Kimkins forums, then yes, this post shall be removed since she is no longer associated with Kimkins.

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That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.

September 10, 2007 at 5:17 pm

OddManOut

There was no time limit in your promise.

September 11, 2007 at 3:13 am

concerned

[i]That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.[/i]

Wow… I totally support your effort to stop Heidi/Kimmer/Kimkins, but it seems a bit vindictive to continue to publicly scrutinize KimATC by continuing to post her profile after she has resigned.

How does continuing to embarrass KimATC help the effort to stop Kimmer?

September 11, 2007 at 5:42 pm

WOW

Ducky, I was a staunch supporter of yours, but now I realize that you are a liar, you never gave Kim a time line, ever. You are a liar and no better then Kimmer. Learn to keep your word and do the right thing.

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How we feel about this situation: Her departure carried no remorse for association with Kimmer/Heidi and made no attempt to disassociate from Kimkins and Kimmer. She may regret her association with the site and the woman, but she has no clearly stated such in any of her posts on various forums since she left. As we said before, a day late and a dollar short.

That said, we also must point out something we were not aware of at the time when we made our statement. Due to KimATC being a paid staffer, we cannot expunge material which may be relevant in an investigation given what is now known. We would like to be able to keep our word, even though we do feel her actions do not warrant such, but cannot at this time due to legal implications. Destruction of evidence does carry penalty and we are not willing to destroy materials potentially relevant to an investigation. As we noted, we DID remove her children’s names from the original article posted.

Thank you for your understanding.

September 11, 2007 at 6:20 pm

KimATC

Hey cut Ducky some slack. I have shared a lot of private emails with Becky and Christin and others. A small amount on a public board. But the biggest thing I learned from Ducky is NOT to post anything personal on the web. You just never know who is reading it, copying it, and posting it elsewhere.

Just think of the irony of this, changing the “terms” afterwards sounds kind of like changing a TOS after one has already agreed to it.

I appreciate the above comments, I really do. But this is Ducky’s blog and he/she can do as he/she sees fit. So, let’s just move on please I believe he has more current and relevant things to deal with.

September 11, 2007 at 6:23 pm

WOW

Ok, lets move on, cut some slack, your right! Ducky is simply a liar. Heidi is simply a liar. I think Kimmer feels she has more important things to do as well

September 11, 2007 at 8:07 pm

Disappointed

Ducky, since I have been searching for and have yet to find anything to contradict this as of today:

“Her departure carried no
remorse for association
with Kimmer/Heidi and
made no attempt to
disassociate from Kimkins
and Kimmer.
She may regret her association
with the site and the woman,
but she has no clearly stated
such in any of her posts on
various forums since she left.”

I agree that that is very disconcerting.

Perhaps it would be wise to avoid making any further promises that an entry will be removed if they leave, unless you are satisfied with them appearing to leave for that reason instead of conviction.

Developing Story: Former Admin Becky Speaks out

Earlier today, the much beloved ex-Admin from Kimkins, Becky, posted a lengthy email she had sent to Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) in her attempt to help Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) manage the problems being reported on various sites online.

After a number of supportive replies, some asking she post about the response from Kimmer, she posted that today

Therefore, before this day is over, I intend to publish 3 things:

~ Quoted replies in her own words to the issues raised by the various former admins, which others who participated in that email exchange at the time can verify or refute

~ A short version of the whys and wherefores of my personal journey in and out, including financial disclosure and an honest admission of the compromises I feel I made

~ To set the record straight, my personal layman’s opinion of the physical and mental health risks of the diets, for what it is worth

As this story develops and more information is made available, we’ll update. Stay tuned!

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September 8, 2007 at 12:09 am

Kristine

I got a refund from Kimmer!