“Ask Kimmer” Locked Down

As theTRUTH just posted, the ‘Ask Kimmer’ thread was just locked, no additional questions will be allowed on the thread.

Kimmer wrote:

Everybody, I am going to lock the “Ask Kimmer” thread. Part of the idea for the management group is “less Kimmer more Kimkins” and then I can focus on the behind-the-scenes stuff that we do.

Questions? Ask in Kimkins Cafe or Newbie Support. The admins are busy bees zooming around to answer as quick as they can.

Well, there goes another membership benefit, ‘direct access to Kimmer’ (Heidi Diaz).

This comes in the wake of eliminating the ‘Fasting & Detox’ forum, the pathetic attempt at an eBook (ePage anyone?) and other changes to promised ‘benefits’ of membership, such as access to a certified personal trainer.

Going somewhere Heidi?

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If you have not yet watched the KTLA broadcast, you can watch the video here.  Tonight KTLA will broadcast part 2 at 10:00 PM PDT

Kimkins Graphic Changes?

Might this be the new graphics under development for Kimkins?

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If you have not yet watched the KTLA broadcast, you can watch the video here. Tonight KTLA will broadcast part 2 at 10:00 PM PDT.

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October 3, 2007 at 4:48 pm

ddhuff

Too funny!

October 3, 2007 at 4:54 pm

Kim

PERFECT!!!!

October 3, 2007 at 4:59 pm

theTRUTH

Next video I want to see: “Perp Walk”

October 3, 2007 at 5:17 pm

theTRUTH

Ask Kimmer Locked down: See
http://thetruthinhiding.blogspot.com/

October 3, 2007 at 5:39 pm

Mimi

perfect graphic!

Tippytoes Blames Members for Health Problems

This morning, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) is digging in and trying to explain the changes made to the homepage of the Kimkins website. In it, she lays blame for health problems on those following the Kimkins plans.

Tippytoes wrote:

What happened to Kimmer’s Red Dress Picture?

We are making many new and positive changes to this site every single day. We have chosen to remove the red dress photo and in place use People magazine. Too much contravery surrounds that pic and rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it. The success stories are still there although someone else did ask me where they went. I checked and they are there. Not sure if this is a tech glitch or not. But I can look further into it. Does anyone else not see them?

I think it was well said previously that Kimkins diet has been abused by some members at their own doings who now point the finger in blame towards us. We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own. We do not promote starvation, laxitive abuse or any of the like and we are making this clear. There will always be room for improvements and we are always willing to make them. We have even introduced a cycle option as part of the positive change and to help transition towards maintenance later.

We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff. However, rest assured we have some new gathering ideas in the works for next year. What we have in mind will be better and will geer more in tuned with Kimkins diets than an all you can eat fest cruise. I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.

The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here. We have a walk for breast cancer coming up and I will be posting more soon. In addition we are considering a fundraiser challenge to benefit Toys For Tots. Members participating would make and pay their own pledges directly to Toys For Tots. There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.

So hang tight, my fellow Kimkinettes! Change is GOOD!

I want you all to not be afraid to see positive changes being made. This only means we are here to stay and getting better all the time.

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October 2, 2007 at 2:32 pm

Dottie

“rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it.”

But of course… much easier just to pretend it never existed.

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

Melt’s contribution to the renovations?

October 2, 2007 at 2:37 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 2:46 pm

Kimmerexia

Tippytoes sez: “We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own.”

No need to “abuse” Kimkins. At 500 to 1,000 calories, it’s already starvation!!!

Tippytoes spins: “We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard [SIC] for Kimkins members as well as staff.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wouldn’t have anything to do with Regandy, the cruise organizer, jumping ship from the sinking good ship Kimtanic, would it? Noooooooooo, of course not!!!

Tippytoes defines: “Kimkinettes!”

Ah, so THAT’S what the remaining smattering of duped sugar-free kool-aid drinking minions are officially called.

Tippytoes pathetically optimistically quips: “The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here.”

Yes indeed. The lawsuits, governmental investigations and transitioning former KimkinETTES from starvation to healthful ways of eating is gonna be a friggin’ laugh a minute.

October 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm

Kim

“I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.”

Don’t trust the members to make their own decisions on what they eat? Why not tell the real reason….Heidi still wouldn’t show her face and too many questions were asked about it, so it was decided to just remove all info and hope they’ve banned everyone who knew about Heidi’s refusal.

October 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Members abusing the plan and eating low calories against Kimmer” will?
This is typical “blame the victim” abusive thinking.

Anyone who has been around Kimkins for long knows that ultra-low calories was always Kimmer’s intention. It is precisely what makes it Kimkins, not Atkins.

When I was on Boot Camp, exercising, eating an average of 465 calories a day, and stalled, and had the nerve to complain about it and decide to increase my fats, Kimmer’s emailed response was (and i quote):

“Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in
calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.

Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is
“high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the
Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight
loss will be different. Don’t forget people who
dabble in days of fasting, too.

If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else,
maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was
their weight loss accomplished by methods we would
want to follow? Many people on this site have a
problem with very low calories and refuse. “

October 2, 2007 at 3:20 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 3:36 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 3:40 pm

Kimmerexia

Funny that Tippytoes doesn’t refer to the pic as “Kimmer’s AFTER picture.”

No, it’s referred to as “the red dress picture” because even Jeannie Baitinger, Director of Public Relations for Kimkins doesn’t believe that it could possibly Kimmer’s AFTER picture.

October 2, 2007 at 4:31 pm

regandy

The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.

OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.

Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.

If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.

October 2, 2007 at 4:42 pm

anani

I am sick beyond words that Tippy would put the blame on the members for taking the diet to extremes. The extreme nature of this diet was carefully coached and taught by Kimmer herself. The following is a direct copy of Kimmer’s words to a newbie. I have the screen shot to back this up if it is ever needed.

Member asks Kimmer:
I’m new here – just started yesterday.

Which plan is designed for the fastest weight loss results?

I’m on KE and don’t have a problem with it. I was looking at Boot Camp and wondering is it’s designed for quicker weight loss results?

Thanks!!

Kimmer’s response:
The very fastest would be the Meal Replacement Shake option because there’s no chance of messing up. 450 calories a day, that’s it.

Second is Boot Camp because the protein and salads are limited, but someone could still pick a higher calorie protein by accident.

K/E was originally the fastest, but it’s not always anymore because some people tend to be creative about what a “lean” protein is plus overeating with too big portions or small snacks all day .

Kimkins is the slowest and still way faster than any other non-Kimkins plan except water fasting.

Another Member asks:
Hi Kimmer

You just posted a relpy that the Replacement Shake option is 450 caloris a day but when I look at the plan under KIMKINS Diet Plans it says 800 calories a day. Which is correct?

Kimmer’s response:
It would be 800 if you choose 200 calorie shakes and 4 per day. Personally, as long as I’m doing shakes (which are not incredibly exciting anyway), I’d find a 150 calorie version and limit to 3 (skipping a snack shake).

But I’m impatient.

October 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm

ixtapacheryl

“A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory”

OMG more fund raisers? No cruise scheduled because of safety issues?

October 2, 2007 at 5:05 pm

Stiff

So, this morning Yahoo greeted me with these articles:

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19365/6-diets-to-avoid

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19885/the-skinny-on-4-fad-diets;_ylt=AtuWsn6WiXWM8xqU5xWQeuka788F

Mmmmmmmm I smell Kimkins in those guidelines…

October 2, 2007 at 5:17 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 5:26 pm

Stiff

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

This really makes me laugh after Melt/Kimmer PM about animals.

October 2, 2007 at 6:16 pm

cando

I can’t believe this. Back in June when I posted on that site I was having “potty problems” I was told to try Exlax by several memebers and Kimmer. Becky Lil Bit came through with the suggestion of Smooth Move tea, which is herbal. I went with Becky’s suggestion and another one of two stalks of celery a day…that worked. ’cause I know that Exlax used on a regular basis can really mess you up big time.
But until people started complaining, they were promoting laxatives as a way of life. It seem to me that when I first joined, all people were eating on that site were eggwhites and Exlax. Back in my 20’s, I went on an Exlax, Dr. Pepper, M&M’s and cigerette diet for about a month, Lost tons of weight.
Man, I need to get me a web site and start sellin’ that. It was way more fun than egg whites and Exlax.

So, Tippy, your plan use to promote laxative use. Which attorney told you to stop?
And fundraisers? Man, that’s great. I guess getting $59.95 one time out of members isn’t good enough. “fund raisers” for the Pad My Pocket foundation. I’ll pass thank you.

October 2, 2007 at 6:36 pm

Antikimmerite

To top it all off SingingAss needs to learn to spell. Or edit. That was painful to read.

October 2, 2007 at 6:39 pm

finleysmom

This post made me so angry!! This was my reply on the site with my goodbye.

Too much controversy surrounding the red dress???? Are you kidding me??? Why not fix this then????? There should be NO controversy!!! FIX THIS by proving what is real! I don’t understand what the problem is. If the picture is Kimmer then PROVE IT! Why all the secrets, changes, drama, and lies??? WHY??? I have been around since the beginning on LCF. I was one of the first 20 members of Kimkins when all was hailed…”isn’t it nice to be on a site where you can speak freely and not have PM’s read and posts changed/deleted” WTF? This place is worse than LCF EVER was. What is wrong with you crazy people?? This is a nut house now. I can’t believe what has happened to this place. I feel so sad for the members who don’t understand that all of this change is a horrible sign. I am so sad it has come to this.

Goodbye all and good luck to finding what works for you!

October 2, 2007 at 6:43 pm

finleysmom

Oh, and yes I was banned for this post LOL!

October 2, 2007 at 9:06 pm

Princess Dieter

There is no limit to Tippy Toes’ reprehensible twisting of actual experiences and reality. Dang, that’s some shiny 30 pieces of silver there, Tips.

Controversy and the red dress? hahaha There would be no controversy if it was Kimmer, now would there be? The controversy is that it’s NOT.

And all that site scrubbing. Did you get all those Kimmer posts urging people to eat less, less, less and take laxatives? Did you?

And the members to blame? Boy. For someone who doesn’t follow the plan, you have some nerve judging those who DID in good faith.

You know, some people really do need to go down hard with the ship and captain…

So glad Christin and others are out there to put the lie to Tipper’s propaganda.

The Princess

October 2, 2007 at 9:52 pm

CR

“the red dress picture”

Why not say the “picture of Kimmer” LMAO…..

What a freakin JOKE!!!!

No cruise because there is food on it ROFLMAO…..

it just gets better everytime….the lies, the twists, the stupidity LOL

October 2, 2007 at 10:55 pm

moo

“We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff”

WTF lol. Oh and would someone PLEASE buy TT a friggen dictionary (and teach her how to use it).

October 2, 2007 at 11:56 pm

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October 3, 2007 at 7:36 am

Sue

Tippy – you’re a bitch!
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Tippytoes Claims Anyone Exposing Kimkins is a Terrorist

Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) posted in Kimkins moments ago:

Re:Heads Up

I just have to say it is very bad out there. This has turned out to be a very active hate group. I see no difference in this hate as any other hate, be it for blacks, hispanics, against abortion or whatever. This hate group is snowballing into a larger group all of the time. Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.

If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.

If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.

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October 1, 2007 at 3:00 pm

Kimkins Dangers

The best thing Tippy could ever have done.. get Homeland Security involved in this and watch how fast Kimkins disappears.. lol That Tippy doesn’t think, does she. lol

October 1, 2007 at 3:11 pm

Kim

Isn’t TT the one who sent threats, REAL threats, to Dottie that included mention of her kids?

Pot? Kettle? I haven’t seen any of us making threats…stating actions we are taking, but threats? I don’t think so.

October 1, 2007 at 3:14 pm

MicheleP

“Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.

If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.

If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.”

First of all… its THEIR not thier, use spellcheck!

October 1, 2007 at 3:17 pm

MicheleP

“Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.

If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.

If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.”

First of all… its THEIR not thier, use spellcheck!

Next… Your perception on what I legal and illegal is as questionable as your motives. You think it illegal to comment on a morbidly obese woman who passes herself off as a successful diet guru, using pictures that don’t even look like her or each other that that matter, lol, and that this woman FRAUDLENTLY collected what is esimated to be millions of dollars from unsuspecting people. You think it is illegal to expose this Kimmer? Give me a break. Get some serious help, professionally.

October 1, 2007 at 3:34 pm

kkatastrophediet

Hey Tippy! Consider this notification!

http://kkatastrophediet.wordpress.com/

Long live JUSTICE!!!

October 1, 2007 at 3:44 pm

Kimmerexia

Tippy’s right. I’m a terrorist.

October 1, 2007 at 3:47 pm

bobbin

Umm… it’s snowballing into a bigger and bigger group all of the time because more and more people are waking up to the fact that Kimmer and her admins (TT) are thieves, and liars. Everyone wakes up eventually.

October 1, 2007 at 3:50 pm

Violet Skye

WTF??? Tippykins, maybe it’s time to take a walk outside or a power-nap. I think you’ve been logging a bit too much time as an admin and it’s taking its toll on your sense of proportion.

October 1, 2007 at 4:23 pm

angie

Its snowballing into a bigger goup is because Kimkins is getting exposed as the scam that it is. More people are being educated about Heidi Diaz, Tippy Toes a.k.a. Jeannie Baitinger for the scam artists, liars and thieves that they are. Sweet victory will be when they are behind bars.

October 1, 2007 at 4:30 pm

ixtapacheryl

I think TT needs to get some legal advice ….. what we are doing is not considered illegal. TT, extortion/threats on your part towards the LCF administrators is very questionable.. and I would be frightened if I were you.

We have all been defrauded and scammed. If you feel the heat is escalating, my suggestion is to run (not walk) away from KK’s site before it’s too late (and that is not a threat), just a caring suggestion. Please please distance yourself from her. No amount of money that she is possibly paying you is worth being her employee. You don’t want to end up being the “fall” guy in all of this.

October 1, 2007 at 4:33 pm

Princess Dieter

Excuse me? Blowing up people with a car bomb is terrorism. Passing anthrax around in the mail is terrorism. Setting fire to churches and temples to intimidate and kill is terrorism.

Exposing dangerous diets and possible commercial fraud is not terrorism.

If Tippy is so concerned about illegalities, maybe she should investigate her boss and make sure that’s all clean and nice and on the up and up.

Oh, right. Her boss is PAYING her for this “public relations.”

I hope the mass of Kimkinites still over there see Tippy’s statement for the offense it is to victims of real terrorism.

Tippy, one phrase: 9-11

Look it up if you have forgotten.

The Princess

October 1, 2007 at 4:39 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Yes, Tippy, glad to see you are getting an “edumifcation” Stupid ass. Why don’t you research internet fraud. Why don’t you see what you are responsible for, in raising money for a fake charity? Bet you a dollar me calling Heidi fat will be far less important than you screwing people out of money.

Tippy=hillbilly douchebag!

October 1, 2007 at 4:43 pm

honeybeesblog

This was just posted up at KK as an example of the threatening emails that they have received there.
The poster then put comments after the threatening email that they were sharing. I think it is safe to say that the same person who wrote the comments also wrote the email. No screen names were used to protect the Identity of the poster…umm..but none needed.

Quote:
“We kzuw wko u r axd tke eivl u r diong. Us dcuks woll sotp at ntohnig utikl Kimkins hws foleln! We arre innakttnig a waar of teriror!!
Qacuk Qacuk.”

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!. At lseat Mssis awlyas is syanig how ipmorantt it is to msot.

Ok…yes I am kidding… but you know the PR department could have written this!!

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Edited to bold that this is a joke.

October 1, 2007 at 4:52 pm

PrincessDucky

She’s lost it.

October 1, 2007 at 4:53 pm

Sheridan

“Isn’t TT the one who sent threats, REAL threats, to Dottie that included mention of her kids?”

Yes, and she also sent a similar threat to Melly, one of the chat admins.

Ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, rebuke and expose them.

October 1, 2007 at 5:22 pm

Healthy LCer

From JWC:

HOMELAND SECURITY DUCK ADVISORY

Current Threat Level VERY YELLOW

WARNING

We have received credible information that there is an errant flock of yellow ducks roaming the streets of Corona, California in search of a skinny woman in a red dress. Following close behind the loudly quacking flock, are packs of small kittens and puppies hissing and snarling in unison, although some were observed smiling and winking as well. No one has been able to locate said skinny woman in red dress, so it is possible she has become duck food.

It has been reported that a somewhat larger woman in white stretch pants was seen running towards the airport followed by a rather tipsy female meandering recklessly as she tries to find new words in the dictionary. A third woman was observed staring intently into a crystal ball and screaming, “The ducks are coming, the ducks are coming!” Another follower was observed melting into the pavement reminiscent of the Wicked Witch of the West fame. The female in white stretch pants was then observed trying to obliterate the footprints behind her, but this did not seem to deter the flock of duck bills snapping at her heals.

It is critical that all who have reason to fear ducks, kittens, and puppies, should be on the lookout for these grave terroristic threats. In mass, quacking duckbills can be very effective weapons. Given enough quacks the world is sure to listen.

October 1, 2007 at 5:34 pm

Dottie

Clearing that up: My email was from Kimmer, not TT. I haven’t had any contact with Tippy except a PM before her cruise asking about how to search for something at LCF.

October 1, 2007 at 5:42 pm

anonymous

Posted by a KK member in response to TT’s post and deleted in rapid time:

I’m sorry, but I consider this to be highly offensive content. I live in Oklahoma, and was the news director for an all-news radio station at the time of the Murrah bombing in Oklahoma City. I know what terrorism looks like (smells like, feels like, sounds like) — and what’s going on the other sites ain’t it! Furthermore, to equate people who happen to be critical of Kimkins at other sites with neo-Nazi groups, the KKK or other extremists is ludicrous and insulting, and demonstrates a complete disregard for how truly dangerous an honest-to-goodness terrorist or hate group truly is. That comparison is completely inappropriate and ignorant.

Apparently, though, there’s no shred of free speech left here — if your thoughts don’t comply with what is considered to be “in line” with the “approved thinking”, you’re gone. . .

So ban away, Tippy Toes. Even though I haven’t said anything _object_ionable, I haven’t posted anything offensive, I haven’t included _link_s to “inappropriate” blogs, you’ll ban me because my opinion differs from yours.

And for anyone who reads this before it gets deleted and I get tossed, be aware that your health is your business — but you should be highly suspicious of anyplace that dictates to you what you can and can’t read or write.

And for the record, I have not copied any posts or PMs to other sites — my choice to leave Kimkins was mine, and I don’t believe that it is acceptable to “out” other people because they don’t agree with me. . . unlike some. I might choose to post this post someplace else, but it’s mine — and as the author, I have the right to use my words as I please.

I will continue to participate in other forums at other sites, where discussion can be freely held and honest but respectful communication is more important than the specific dogma of whatever WOE you choose. I’m not recruiting; you’re all grown-ups and can make your own choices — and I choose to go elsewhere.

C-ya!

October 1, 2007 at 5:54 pm

Mayberryfan

Two words for Tippy: Desparate. Pathetic.

October 1, 2007 at 6:00 pm

Exkimkinite

Yo Hidey!!!!

Are you embarrassed yet by Tippy making a complete moron of herself? Honestly woman, I gave you credit for more smarts than to have an idiot like this onboard at KK. Good grief. Terrorists. Someone quick – ALERT THE MEDIA.

October 1, 2007 at 6:15 pm

angie

I have 2 words for Tippy too: Fruit loop.

October 1, 2007 at 6:26 pm

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October 1, 2007 at 6:28 pm

2big4mysize

This is a pathetic tactic to scare those involved. You’d think being from the south she’d remeber that tactic of claiming federal law violations didn’t work against the civil rights boycotters in Alabama as the US supreme court ruled in their favor.

October 1, 2007 at 6:51 pm

theTRUTH

She sure scared me. I guess they are going to apply the patriot act now that we have been branded as terrorists. LMAO.

October 1, 2007 at 6:51 pm

TerryC

Kimmer has fled the asylum and left the “patients” in charge.

October 1, 2007 at 6:53 pm

theTRUTH

Now that we are branded as terrorists, maybe melt will like us better…

October 1, 2007 at 7:29 pm

Concerned about kimkins

2big, everything you just said I assure you went RIGHT OVER that hillbilly’s head. Are you kidding me? You think Tippy would know anything about civil rights, she’s still trying to figure out how to type/spell properly. Tippy is a moron, and the fact that she is the “Spokesperson/spokeshillbilly” for Kimkins, is AWESOME, it just helps those of us trying to out the company. When this hits that national media, they are gonna have a day with Tippy’s moronic ramblings. Ahhhh victory will be sweet.

October 1, 2007 at 7:33 pm

Dottie

October 1st, 2007 at 6:51 pm
TerryC
Kimmer has fled the asylum and left the “patients” in charge.

That’s what I’m wondering, too. When was the last time Kimmer shows online or posted?

October 1, 2007 at 8:23 pm

Stiff

“I just have to say it is very bad out there. This has turned out to be a very active hate group. I see no difference in this hate as any other hate, be it for blacks, hispanics, against abortion or whatever. This hate group is snowballing into a larger group all of the time. Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.”

That was the most professional statement I have ever heard…
…coming from a hillbilly.

“If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.”

In other words…Please, let me copy exactly what the haters are telling everyone to do by contacting your authorities because I have no brain to think on my own.
And let me call it terrorism in hopes I will stir some poor sensitive soul’s heart.
Bush is sending some troops to that hater website to take care of them KK-haters, ye hear?

Ahhhhhhhhahahah I can hear her in my head.

“If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.”

….so I can run to Heidi and be a good admin and get a good raise.

October 1, 2007 at 8:23 pm

Princess Dieter

Where, oh where, could Kimmer have funneled those accumulated membership fees in the hundreds of thousands….?

Someplace sunny where diet soda, wigs, white stretch pants, and #2 specials are bountiful, I suppose.

and theTruth–Melt doesnt’ like anybody but Melt and her boytoys, and maybe not even them. So, deal with it. Sniff.

The Princess

October 1, 2007 at 8:26 pm

mac

From Tippy at KK’s

Re:Heads Up 11 Minutes ago
They say they do not understand how the tactics could be considered terrorism. So for them here it is, straight from Webster’s dictonary: “Terrorism. the use of force or threats to intimidate”. This would include the attack launched by Ducky towards KimATC, threatening to post info about her children if she didn’t quit within a time limit set by them. This would also include SingingLass’s real name, address and phone number being posted with reference seeking those who live near her to “get her”. She has recieved major threats by telephone including death threats. They have suggested that if she has children they are in danger. This IS terrorism and this MUST be stopped.

Report terrorism to your local authorities. Print the threats and date. And contact us.
Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable

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Anyone with half a brain cell working can look back and see clearly that we never threatened to post about KimATC’s children. Her profile on Kimkins included her children’s names and when that was removed from KimATC’s profile on Kimkins Meet Your Team page, their names were promptly removed here too (and stated as such). All information posted about SingingLass is from public records and her own posts online. No threats, real or imagined, were made to “get her” in our post. Tippytoes keep digging that hole you’ve got going there!

October 1, 2007 at 8:29 pm

mac

Dottie,

It show Kimmer was on today!

October 1, 2007 at 8:41 pm

Kimkins Dangers

Making false accusations that someone is a terrorist is illegal, ftw.

October 1, 2007 at 9:12 pm

Concerned about kimkins

So ducky does this mean Tippy is walking straight into a defamation case from ya’ll now. I’m saying you should sue her too. She’s fully moronic! God Tippy keep typing please, I’m loving how ignorant you continue to be!!!!

October 1, 2007 at 9:19 pm

Kan

I think TT has made it clear that she should be the next target. And before I get called a TERRORIST, I mean she should be held liable for knowingly getting involved in a fraud and then bending over backwards to cover it up.

And you just know TT is loving this btw. She just wants to be in the spotlight. She is obviously an attention-who…..I mean attention-hound.

October 1, 2007 at 9:51 pm

CR

The paranoia must REALLY be setting in…they are imagining terrorists now LMAO!

Maybe Tippy hasnt heard of public record? As I said before, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

in Heidi’s words….”Tippy, get a diet buddy, and no stress eating!” LOL.

October 1, 2007 at 10:29 pm

antikimkins

Quote:
“We kzuw wko u r axd tke eivl u r diong. Us dcuks woll sotp at ntohnig utikl Kimkins hws foleln! We arre innakttnig a waar of teriror!!
Qacuk Qacuk.”<<<<<<<<<<<<

I read this at work today and just started giggling SO hard!!!

What a hoot it would be if we came up with our own little duck language that Heidi and her crew couldn’t understand, then we could post in all the blogs using it!!! ROFLMAO!!!

October 2, 2007 at 6:46 am

ghoov

In the interest of public service I shal post a translation for the rednecks out there:

“Re:Heads Up ah jest hafta say it is mighty bad out thar. This hyar has turned out t’be a mighty ackive hate group. ah see no difference in this hyar hate as enny other hate, be it fo’ blacks, hispanics, aginst abo’shun o’ whutevah. This hyar hate group is snowballin’ into a larger group all of th’ time. Thier intimidashun an’ scare tackis is not only unreasonable but quite illegal, ah reckon. Eff’n yo’ haf been thrett uped o’ intimidated by this hyar group please notify yer local autho’ities an’ us. These is acks of terro’ism, dawgone it. Eff’n yo’ see posts bein’ copied an’ passed t’other sites, please notify me.”

October 2, 2007 at 8:31 am

Mimi

antikimkins said, “…language that Heidi and her crew couldn’t understand…”

That language already exists, and is in widespread use across the blogs of Duckdom. That language is Truth. Heidi and her crew cannot understand this language. They’ll never crack the code.

Scrubbing Away Don’t Rid the Stink

As evidenced by various previous attempts to distance Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) from the scandal and controversy, once again the Kimkins website underwent an update; this time scrubbing remnants of the claim that Kimmer is the founder of the diet and lost 198 pounds in 11 months, fraudulent marketing claims.

UPDATE: Also removed is the direct link to Success Stories. Now access to success stories is limited to those appearing on the home page via direct link to the specific story one is interested in reading.

Not to worry though, screen shots abound, along with cached catalogs of the entire site and all of its updates throught this controversy.

Becky Continues

Just moments ago, Becky posted a continuation of Kimkins: The Perfect Storm.

Now, a look at the professional practices of Kimkins.

Kimmer first gave out her brand of diet advice (as well as hair care and skin care tips) for years on Low Carb Friends, which garnered both followers and foes. I am not sure when the idea of her own site first began in her mind, whether it was all a carefully-laid plan, or just an opportunity too good to pass up when it arose. Judging from her track record of not sticking very long with any one thing (whether it be school or work or a relationship), I would guess that it was the latter. My conjecture is that she joined the diet site in all sincerity, hoping to lose weight like anyone else. She probably learned some things and had some initial success, but then, being Kimmer, she just couldn’t help embellishing things a bit, highlighting her successes and ignoring her failings, amplifying it more and more, becoming more extreme over time, as it began to attract some attention. Gradually, the gap between her words and her actions widened, as she could not follow through with her knowledge and intentions, but could not allow herself to back down and admit it, either.

She may have done what many of us have done —- promised herself to get back on track tomorrow, next week, next month, try to be extra strict to make up for it, only to give in to her old ways again. Her real life wasn’t working for her at all — but online she could be the best possible version of herself, everything she every dreamed of, until perhaps she came to believe it herself. The attention and approbation were too addicting.

At some point, it seems, delusion reigned supreme, and there was no backing down. As her claims became more grandiose and her polarizing presence began to dominate and draw heat more and more at the LCF forum, another member, Catherine, approached her with the idea of an ebook and a website to sell it. (Read more here.) I think it was the brass ring, the golden goose, and Kimmer/Heidi grabbed at the opportunity for . Once that thought was there, I do believe Kimmer purposely aggravated her enemies and gathered her fans even more, setting the stage for her big exit. Soon, ‘Kimmer’ flounced off in a huff, and Kimkins.com was launched as a partnership between Heidi Diaz, supposed diet guru and Catherine McDonald, tech expert.

In the early days of the Kimkins website, Kimmer seemed to have it all — a successful diet plan, satisfied customers who were easy to please, low overhead, and a competent business partner who made her ideas work. Her departure from LCF calmed down hostilities quite a bit all around, and Kimmer was left to operate her own site in her own little corner of the internet with little interference. If she had made the right moves then, Heidi/Kimmer might possibly have been able to continue on course to a legitimate business success for quite some time to come. However, because Kimmer at her core is a fraud, it was inevitable that any enterprise built on that basis would soon begin to crumble.

Kimmer was not only a fraud in her own personal claims of large, rapid weight loss, but she soon began building the business of Kimkins around fraud at virtually every level — member service, marketing, and management.

~ Fraudulent Member Service: She lied to her members about the safety and efficacy of her diet plans, leading them to believe her plans were safely based on the recognized plans of doctors such as Dr. Atkins and Dr. Stillman, while continuing to push them ever farther away from the cautions and sensible limits of those plans. She assured members it was safe, because, after all, it had worked so well for her, or so she said. She also began to be less and less available to members, despite her promised member benefit of ‘personal coaching‘. She ignored or gave inadequate and misleading answers to valid member concerns. This was because she apparently preferred to spend her energies on marketing, to keep new paying customers coming in the front door while leaving the members mostly on their own to look out for one another.

~ Fraudulent Marketing: In her marketing campaign, she lied to prospective members by spamming Craigslist with fake listings to plug Kimkins, by posting phony ‘articles’ and answers and numerous blogs for Kimkins all over the internet under various names, by promoting Kimkins with false implied celebrity endorsements specifically to target teens, and primarily by posting numerous fraudulent ’success’ stories with ‘lifted’ and photoshopped ‘before’ and ‘after’ pictures. She also made numerous claims she had no proof of or right to make, in violation of FTC regulations.

~ Fraudulent Management: Heidi/Kimmer entered into partnership with Catherine originally under false pretenses, and continued to lie to her about many things, including the source of the ‘success stories‘. It also appears that Heidi skimmed a certain part of the gross proceeds from the partnership before profits were split, by funneling income to supposed affiliate accounts which actually led back to her. It is unclear whether proper legal or tax filings were ever made, though it does not appear they were.

In matters big and small, every bit of the Kimkins enterprise was fraught with deception. It was bound to catch up to her sooner or later.

Before too long, Catherine began to have concerns about Heidi’s integrity, and backed out of the partnership. At this point, Kimmer claims to have brought in 4 other partners to finance Catherine’s buyout, but this is highly doubtful. For one thing, one of the partners she claims to have brought in at that time is Heidi Diaz, but photographic and written evidence clearly shows that Kimmer herself is Heidi Diaz. (For example, Kimmer has always acknowledged that Catherine was her partner in the beginning, and Catherine signed the original partnership agreement with Heidi Diaz.) Other names mentioned as possible ‘partners’ include Dennis Sharp (her son), Vanessa Sharp and/or Romero (Vanessa Romero is her niece), Nicki or Nikki Sharp, and Tish Diaz. It is extremely unlikely that these relatives are actually working, decision-making partners as Kimmer leads people to believe. It is possible they put up some money so Heidi could buy out Catherine; it is possible she got money from them under some other pretext; it is very possible they know little or nothing, and she is just using their names to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise. Nicki and later Vanessa disappeared from the “Meet Your Team’ roster some time ago, so it is possible they were based on actual people who became aware of the use of their identities, and protested it.

I have seen various things supposedly ‘written’ by some of those names and now Brad Johnson. To me. they all have the same unmistakable writing style, and are all almost surely written by Heidi herself, who freely admits to writing frequently under various male and female names. No one has ever spoken or communicated with any of them, except through Kimmer, and she trotted out the same excuses over and over as to why they were not available. (Usually they were ‘called out of town to deal with a sick father’.) Kimmer herself often spoke to me of doing all affiliate payouts and answering affiliate questions, even though she supposedly had an affiliate manager. These ‘partners’ were probably a construct that Kimmer used to pass blame, as when criticizing someone (’the partners don’t think they are getting their money’s worth’) or floating unpopular ideas (’the partners are pressing to make the fees monthly vs. lifetime membership’, which she brought up to me several times), as well as to provide other ‘identities’ under which to hide income.

In fact, there is no good reason to assume that the entity of Kimkins is anything other than Heidi Diaz sitting at her computer pumping out fraudulent marketing and picking up funds from Paypal and the mailbox, with a tech guy or two working remotely and unaware of the real situation, and paid and unpaid admins and members doing the heavy lifting on the site.

The best of businesses, with a solid business plan and an experienced team of managers would have been hard pressed to absorb the massive explosion of growth that occurred with the Woman’s World magazine feature. Kimmer only had forum helpers with very little knowledge of the true nature of the business; after all, she could not afford to bring anyone into her confidence, because she had too many secrets to hide. So, Heidi was suddenly way out of her league. She was gleeful at the funds rolling in, and foolishly thought she could continue to get away with the same type of scamming indefinitely. She was even in contact with Star magazine for another feature. Who knows? Maybe she even thought she could lose the weight, go legit, and make it work. However, her newfound success soon began to cave in on her.

Once thousands of new members hit the site and began trying to understand and apply the diet, the pressure was too heavy and all the cracks in the foundation soon began to appear. Without the personal mentoring and reinterpretation of the diets that new members had received before, the flaws and gaps in Heidi’s business soon became very evident. Many of those coming in with fresh eyes clearly saw the disparity between what was promised and what was delivered. Many clearly saw the dangers of the diet plans, all of them. Of the 40,000 or more who joined, most never even tried the diet once they actually saw it, and many who did try it did not stick with it long. Meanwhile, all the massive attention the diet was receiving reignited the souldering controversy that she thought she had left behind at LCF. However, Heidi did have two things working in her favor: the misplaced support of people like me who encouraged new members to stick with it, and the absolute sheer desperation of overweight people who had almost given up hope. For my own blindness and supporting role in it, I am sick-to-my-stomach sorry, and beg forgiveness.

At this time, Heidi seemed manic with delight over the income rolling in, and eager to spin off new ventures – more magazine and media features, merchandise, and related enterprises like the nutrition business she offered me. She could hardly be bothered with member support or complaints, and brushed off all concerns as something irrelevant, hardly worthy of her attention, even as worrisome side effects and evidences of her dishonesty mounted. Thus, the round of emails I pressed on her, with the results that we admins began to leave and express our concerns and experiences.

Our exits and warnings further precipitated a rash of blockings and bannings, as other members took up the banner and began speaking out. The business of Kimkins is now woefully in breech of the terms of their agreement with their members, who paid for lifetime membership in a healthy and safe diet followed by a woman who lost 198 lbs in 11 months and maintained it, only to be booted without warning when they complained that the diet was unsafe and the owner’s story was a lie. Members have had ‘privileges’ like private messaging and blog links in their signatures revoked, have been flamed and harangued mercilessly for any hint of breaking ranks,and have been banned without warning, redress, or refund on the vaguest pretext of ‘violation of Terms of Service’, which, like the diet plans and disclaimers, are an ever-moving target, conveniently changed after the fact.

Kimmer had it all — a million dollar website, a great staff, great member loyalty, and great future prospects. And due to great greed, arrogance, and dishonesty she threw it away.

Kimmer is now behaving like a rat backed into a corner, biting and snarling, while looking for a way of to escape unscathed. She is starting to meltdown, trying to cover her tracks and salvage what she can, leaving more of the running of things in the hands of unqualified admins. Perhaps she still thinks she can pull it off, or perhaps she is making her exit plans. As she continues to overestimate herself and underestimate her opponents, she will find, once again, that she has made a grave mistake in waiting too long.

Kimmer is a dangerous fraud, and the business of Kimkins is a dangerous fraud.

Both need to be stopped, and the sooner, the better.

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September 27, 2007 at 7:47 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 7:50 pm

Mimi

A note about the timeline … correct me if I’m wrong, but from all the digging that’s been done, Kimkins.com was set up BEFORE Heidi left LCF.

She had found LCF fertile ground for cultivating a crop of victims, but couldn’t harvest them until (according to the CreditBoard) her bankruptcy and other liens had “timed off.”

In the meantime, she was getting the website ready. When the time-off date had passed, that’s when she left LCF and started charging money for memberships.

This is, to the best of my knowledge, the REAL timeline.

September 27, 2007 at 8:01 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 8:10 pm

Becky/Littlebit

I believe that Kimkins.com as a domain name was registered in April. 2006, the big flail-up happened in late May or early June, with site launch very shortly after.

Catherine or Martin would know more.

September 27, 2007 at 8:21 pm

Mimi

Yes I’m confusing registration of the domain, with opening the board. What I mean is, basically, she was laying the groundwork for the board, preparing, and building up to her dramatic exit from LCF.

As one of the other commenters has stated elsewhere, Heidi isn’t mentally ill — she’s simply evil, and she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s fully aware of her intentions and her actions, fully capable of outcome-based behaviors.

September 27, 2007 at 9:54 pm

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Becky (assuming you come back to this blog), after the WW article, was it ever *confirmed* that over 35,000 new members actually paid the life-time membership fee? Confirmed by anyone other than Kimmer, I should say. Did you have access to those types of figures, names and numbers?

I was a member there at the time and, yes, it was mind-boggling with the flood of new members, but close to 40,000? I’ve always had trouble believing that figure. If that’s really the case, the vast majority of them obviously didn’t stick around to post in the forums.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t doubt YOU, Becky. But I can see how Kimmer would exaggerate the numbers just, as you said, “to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise.”

If the 40,000 figure is anywhere close to accurate … where are all these people? Those of us protesting here, at ALC, LCF, etc. are just the tip of the iceberg.

September 27, 2007 at 10:19 pm

Princess Dieter

It would be interesting to know when Kimmer-Heidi’s son turned legal age. Maybe THAT is what she was waiting for, since she put the site under his name. If the son turned 18 Spring of 2006, that would definitely put the motivation there…

(Can a 17 yeard old have a site registered under their name? I have no idea.)

And I totally believe she’d be going to LCF to gather her following before heading off.

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 10:45 pm

antikimkins

Kimmer certainly doesn’t appear to be a millionaire, in fact, she still seems to have money problems. I wonder out of the thousands who joined after the WW article, how many requested refunds within that 24 hour block?

September 27, 2007 at 11:20 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Kimmer canceled the 24- hour refund policy prior to the magazine feature. She did give out some refunds from those who joined and cited kidney problems or other medical concerns, once they saw the diet, but very few.

I cannot prove those figures are accurate, but i would not be at all surprised if the membership numbers are not actually higher now.

I know how busy i was. I saw the posts rolling through there. At one time, I had access to member service emails, and she was getting literally thousands of emails a day. I was getting scores of PMs, as were many others. We had thousands online at a time, and hundreds posting intros and joining new challenges every day.

She also became suddenly very elated, and became much more willing to pay for help.

I imagine many signed up, looked at the diets, and left quickly, chalking it up to an expensive lesson learned. Most were not a typical online crowd. Quite a few lurked, but did not post. Many posted, but have dropped out now. Many have gotten banned, or cowed into silence. Still, they paid, and she kept the money.

She only took the membership and online numbers down when she began drawing too much fire from LCF, Slamboard, etc. I believe she wanted to reduce speculation into her gross profits once people started doing the math.

I have heard people say that they would look online and not see many people there back then. Perhaps they were not looking in the right places, because that was not at all the case then. The way the site was set up, the number reflected on a forum index page did not reflect the number actually viewing threads within that particular forum, but only the number of people looking at that index page at the time. You would have to open each thread to get a full count.

Only she knows for sure what her full intake was, but I have reason to believe it was quite high.

She told me she had only put back into the business what was absolutely necessary, and had the rest invested at a 10% rate of return. Who knows if that is true?

I do not believe she planned this out years in advance. I think she posted at LCF first for ego and power, and only later for money. I just don’t see her as someone who can sustain hard work for long without some kind of a payoff, but rather as an opportunist. I could be wrong. Time will tell.

September 28, 2007 at 2:04 am

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Thank you, Becky, for that insight. I guess I’ve been hoping for lower numbers because that would mean fewer people were scammed, but it looks like she really was/is raking in the big bucks. Thanks again.

September 28, 2007 at 2:47 am

Dottie

Becky that’s very insightful. I also do not think that this giant “venture” was on her mind when she started out on LCF. Looking back on when she left, I really think she was planning on just getting $$ out of maybe a couple of dozen of her “fans” off LCF, then shutting the site down due to lack of funds (or hitting the members up for more $$ to “run” it).
I don’t really think she had any idea that it would take off in the big way that it did.

September 28, 2007 at 7:15 am

Princess Dieter

I totally believe there was a windfall from WW. That kind of coverage is sure to do that.

And I’m sure H/K knew to keep the money inflow quiet and the lifestyle discreet so as to keep all sorts off her back. Spending oodles would have drawn attention, I think. There is also the miser phenomenon where accumulating the money is the kick, not spending it. In fact, spending it reduces the pleasure of actually having a hoard.

Even if it’s half the reported 40K, that’s a lot of mookah going mostly to ONE woman who is hardly accountable. She got the Paypal and the checks. Why should she be truthful about how much when she’s not truthful about the rest?

And if she can offer Christian a car, then 100K for an Oprah brass ring, trust me, that means she had to have a nice, tidy reserve.

It would only have taken 10K members after WW to get 600K. And if that’s not reported or paid taxes on, that’s a nice chunk for any “disabled” person on government dole.

Didn’t someone say that the son bragged mom had a million in Paypal? (Can’t verify where that came from. Just remember reading it.)

The Princess

September 28, 2007 at 8:31 am

Sherrie

I think you’re right Becky.

September 30, 2007 at 8:12 pm

Peaches12

Why did all the admin. wait until the same time to quit. If you knew the diet was dangerous why did you continue to state otherwise, was it just the money that kept you going. I’m so confused, I continue to do Kimkins but with a higher fat intake since my body stalled and the increase intake helped it to lose quicker. How could so many been individual’s lifes have been put in jeopardy for merely a paycheck. Can you answer that, Becky?

The Psychic Predicts…

It’s starting off a banner day in the speculation department as to whom Ducky is.

First Tippytoes is sure we’re admins and members from Low Carb Friends. Now, theTRUTH posted private messages between SingingLass and Kimmer, with SingingLass offering her insights about who we are.

Oh, it doesn’t get any better than this!

SingingLass wrote:

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/

Thats the fun stuff. I keep the kimkins site open in my IE browser, and when I go to any of those sites or LCF, I do so seperately through aol, fav places etc…so that they cannot see a browsing trail. I use a statistical traffic counter thingy on my listings myself. Someone must have linked some peeps from the chat room yesterday though, or at least so ducky claimed. I had actually wondered if you had peeked at it last night because someone announomously posted ” all of a dozen of you” on that. I have posted a couple times on the boards under different names just wanting to try to point out holes, its pretty pointless though, they don’t want to hear anything that bursts their obsession bubble. Ducky is definately grasping for straws though…most likely Catherine’s husband, prolly wanted to set up a couple different slam sites to try to broaden the appearance of the scope and people against you.

I also am not surprised no one has contacted you, its why I have laughed at them calling everyone, their silly petitions. Firstly, those kind of investigations tend to start with an undercover preliminary peeksie. Meaning they would have some underling at first poke their head in here to see if there is any kind of story or truth, no one wants to make a foll of themselves by running with something that is not solid…..and what they will find is not what is being spread around. People get what they pay for, no advice being given for people to eat nothing but grass…..and no where in the purchasing agreement does it say that people are entitled to know your bra size or choice of toilet paper. In order to have a real case, there would have to be huge lackings in what was promised, people paying and getting nothing and the like….and also there would have to be multiple medically documented cases of people being hurt or worse, and even then only if they followed the diet correctly and it happened. Also, any self-thinking investigator who goes and looks at that LCF thread and the ducky board will be able to see it is a foaming irrational mob behind this.

I had someone saying she was eating 10-15 g of fat a day in the chat room and not losing weight. I of course told her to up that, and she was like “oooh”……there also was someone who had been silently sitting in the chat room for a long time last night…bracken666 i think it was, who thought they have had an account since june, had no posts listed in their profile. I decided to address them and say hello, and bam, they signed out. Others said he/she had been in there for hours without saying anything, so just seemed odd they ran when addressed…obviously was watching. Just little things and people like that to keep an eye out, sad we have to, but needed right now I guess.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) replied:

Thanks, Del, you’re better than the FBI.

Everything you outlined for an investigation is exactly right — but I wasn’t going to bore you with the details, LOL! I’m glad you understand and you see yourself that there’s nothing hokey going on: diet, food list, support groups and nobody being told to drink Drano or gulp laxatives.

I did get an email from the Woman’s World editor. Wanted to know if we were sending mailings to members encouraging laxative abuse. Had to set her straight on what’s happening. Ducky is running out of resources — and every morning we’re still here darn it!

BTW, this probably sounds like a bribe (hey, you can blog about it!) but I appreciate you looking out for Kimkins. I’ll remember that. I believe a gift between friends is non-taxable, yes? You’ll have something to look forward to at Christmas. (theTRUTH emphasis added)

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September 27, 2007 at 6:18 pm

Kim

How paranoid are they? Someone is “lurking” and then leaves when addressed? How does the psychic not know the “lurker” wasn’t someone watching to gather info for their investigation?

September 27, 2007 at 6:25 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 6:28 pm

Dottie

“Firstly, those kind of investigations tend to start with an undercover preliminary peeksie.”

You know, there really IS a reson why it’s called “undercover”. lol…

Conspiracy occurs when there is the specific intent that a crime be performed; and there is an agreement with another person to engage in or cause that crime to be performed, and one of the conspirators commits an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy. At state and local levels, there are various degrees of conspiracy, ranging from misdemeanors to felonies, depending upon the crime that is committed. Under U.S. federal law, conspiracy is a felony.

September 27, 2007 at 6:34 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Or a person who is too shy to join or talk about their weight problem but wants to get info. What the hell?

September 27, 2007 at 6:45 pm

losingjusme

oohhhh … what’s Hidy going to send SL? A matching set of her ’striped’ PJ’s from jail?

September 27, 2007 at 6:51 pm

Princess Dieter

She’s a psychic. Why doesn’t she already know who Ducky is and who the lurker was and what Heidi’s bra size is. (50FF?) Ahem.

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 7:05 pm

trudy

They’re wrong.

Ducky = RightNow = PJ

September 27, 2007 at 7:10 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Because much like a her claim of being a diet expert, she is NOT a psychic. Remember when Ms. Cleo got arrested for being a fraud, uh…a psychic would have seen that comin’. Plus, seeing her pics, she is also not at her goal, at all. So, um…yeah Heidi, please let the blind lead the blind. I know I’ve always wanted to go to Michael Jackson for Parenting tips. Shit!

September 27, 2007 at 7:46 pm

sheridan

“Firstly, those kind of investigations tend to start with an undercover preliminary peeksie. Meaning they would have some underling at first poke their head in here to see if there is any kind of story”

What makes you think one or more of your new members *aren’t* working undercover for an agency?

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September 27, 2007 at 10:16 pm

Princess Dieter

Excuse me, but how is a psychic worth $600 bucks an hour ($10 dollars A MINUTE). Teachers, nurses, plumbers, nutritionists, construction workers, dentists, etc –ie, real jobs—do not make this. Heck, my roofer didn’t make that and roofers are in big demand post hurricanes down here in Florida. Not even doctors make that, and maybe not lawyers (I haven’t hired any, so dunno).

But Singing”I’m just here to help people”Lass thinks it is right and just and fair to charge SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR for readings. Yeah, she’s in it for the empathic love…

http://www.kasamba.com/psychicmagicsong/

No wonder she and Heidi get along so well. Online money-grubbers banding together….

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 10:35 pm

CR

I think they are all chuggin off the same jug LMAO.

September 27, 2007 at 10:56 pm

antikimkins

Interesting that SingingLass claims to have two degrees but her ass can’t spell!!!! Where did she get those degrees????? AsSeenOnTV.com????

Since we know that WW editor has contacted Kimmer with her concern — I say we all contact that editor AGAIN.

September 28, 2007 at 12:15 am

scoble

Hmmmm…opera singer, psychis, lawyer and NOW FBI/CIA/Police investigator!!! Is there no end to the list of qualifications this girl has???? Amazing!!! And she has never heard of spell check??? Hmmmm?

September 28, 2007 at 12:16 am

scoble

I meant psychic…..I HAVE heard of spell check! LOL

September 28, 2007 at 5:00 am

Mimi

Actually, we don’t “know” that the WW editor has contacted Kimmer. All we know is, Kimmer says the WW editor contacted Kimmer.

September 28, 2007 at 7:08 am

Princess Dieter

I did write the editor of WW with links to here and Christin and TRUTH and etc. I was a mite ticked, too, and forgot to proofread. Left in a couple of typos. I hope they don’t think I’m Tippy or SingingLass. Heh.

So, I guess this won’t be over until the Psychic…stops singing?

The Princess

Oh Jeanessa, Kimmer’s Mad at You, You Naughty Girl!

A member posted on the Kimkins Chatter & PM thread,

I don’t really care about all the craziness on the net but what I would like to know is how our email addresses were given out to someone names Jeanessa. I like my privacy.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) replied,

My former business partner, Catherine MacDonald, took backup copies of all data before she left a year ago, which sounds like theft to me. [Ducky wonders about all this theft talk lately?]

It’s my understanding she has posted in her blog (or her husband’s) that she would make the names/Paypal email addresses of members during her partnership available to anyone, any attorney. She is mad she was not a partner when the magazine cover came out. She was a partner from April-September 2006.

Sweet, huh? Again I ask — raise your hand if you want to be business partners with Catherine. And she wonders why I didn’t trust her?

Her website is Simply Brilliant Solutions Ltd. – Web Design and Development for Your Small Business. – Home (not really LOL) and her email is xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx his e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it if anyone would like to share their opinion of her broadcasting their Paypal email address to the public. [Ducky wonders, how does Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) know Martin has an email protection enabled on his account?]

Jeanessa is a banned Kimkins member who is very busy wreaking her revenge

Ducky Frustrated? Never!

Just a few minutes ago, theTRUTH gave us more of the private message exchange between psychic SingingLass and Kimmer.

SingingLass sure is loquacious and writes too many run-on sentences. That and it appears she has a thing for questionable online sources of income, working as an online psychic at Kasamba; a company with a history of complaints with the BBB.

We’ve edited only for readability.

SingingLass wrote:

When I worked independently through my own site (I gave that up since I do so much better and get great exposure through kasamba)….I used paypal for billing as well, so know full well the tricks some people try to play with it. Boy did I learn “no service until e-check has cleared first”, otherwise they could just go in and cancel it while it was still in pending.

When I saw that post detailing how to file claims…..I had an “errrr” moment. I didn’t think he would get many to do it though since the core group is not that big, and even smaller still those who were actual members. if I were you though, I would contact Paypal and link to what Ducky is doing, because he is trying to encourage people even 90 days out, or who have not even made payments to CALL them and make fraud complaints and the like….and I do know Paypal can be a bit touchy.

One time though, I had a client who had made several payments to me in a short period of time. Months later, he reported to his credit card company that they were accidental duplicate charges…which would not have even been possible, and the payments were spaced out as well.
They none the less yanked the funds to cover the charge-back ( it was of course my rent money at that time)…..and the person made the mistake of contacting me asking for a reading again shortly there after, and even admitted to what he had done. So I sent in both the log of him admitting to manipulating AND screen captures of the conversation actively up on my computer so they could know I did not just make it up. Paypal stepped to the plate and restored the funds even though they themselves were still battling it with the credit card company.

Thus why you may want to contact them with that info of a site directly leading people to do it before things can get much farther. Just a thought.

I think a little quiet on the boards is good for that reason as well, people had their says…of support, and let their anger out, now need to get back to something of normalacy as best as can be done. I did have someone contact me a few days ago with a support comment, but that it was upsetting for them to see all the threads on the issues, so I had to advise her to just avoid the cafe for a little while since that at the time was where those discussions were taking place.

Good call at putting them in a completely seperate folder, I am sure others felt the same. Even if new memberships slow down at all from all of this, given some time, and with people still loosing, the word will get out and build again.

I do go over and keep tabs on the ducky and slam board stuff, but its just more to be prepared to deal with whatever they are trying to pull or send over here.

The LCF, I skim, most of it is talking in circles over the same garbage, but I have to say they have reached a complete all time low with their attempts to dig up any information on your sons and anyone who could possibly be affiliated with you or them….talk about pointing towards obsession, stalking, craziness, and invasion of privacy.

Yeash, they really are giving law suit fodder, especially with LCF allowing for it to continue.

Read Kimmer’s reply here.

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And now, for your pleasure (and action!) we’d like to repeat the post about contacting PayPal.

The money is sitting in PayPal.

File a complaint and dispute now.

Only when the account is flagged because of unusual level of dissatisfied customers will the account be frozen.

Heidi will not be able to take the money if the PayPal account is frozen for investigation.

PayPal doesn’t play games.

They shut you down.

They shut off your funds.

You sit.

You wait.

But you can’t have any of your money until the investigation is over.

Go now!

Log into your PayPal account and click on “Resolution Center”. From there, click on “Report a Problem” and enter in all of the information from your transaction.

PayPal

If you paid more than 45 days ago, call 1-402-935-2050 or email by going to the bottom of the page, click About Us, click Contact Us, click Customer Support Inquires, click through online form to complete!

Go.

Do it.

Now!

More Threating Messages Come to Light

Over at theTRUTH, we find more abusive, threatening messages sent to Deni, Christin and theTRUTH too!

Read them here.

SingingLass Kissing Ass Again!

Yes, there is still more to report today. Hard to believe, isn’t it?

Over at theTRUTH, we learn of more admin private messages that discuss the bannings, paypal refund requests and more.

SingingLass wrote:

Hi, looks like scoble banned her ownself in her departure….her public reason for leaving was a bit snarky, so I changed it to ” Voluntary” to simplify it….thought I would let you know on the chance you would like it to read tos violation instead.

I keep checking in, things have been pretty quiet on the boards the last 24 hours it seems….but that could be a good thing too.

Oh, you most likely already know, but just in case you do not …heads up. Ducky is sending people instructions now on attacking through Paypal.

Kimmer wrote:

You are really on your toes! Paypal automatically denies any claim more than 12 weeks old. We saw 12 auto-declines and couldnt’ figure out why. Now I know!

Hopefully things will quiet down at least for the members. Some get really upset by the hoopla.
Thanks for being here!

Read the full post, including theTRUTHS commentary here.

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It clear the person scrambling around online isn’t Kimmer (Heidi Diaz), it’s SingingLass.

We know Kimmer lacks any moral compass from all we’ve read, seen and heard.

But

We wonder, how morally bankrupt one must be to not only be one of Kimmer’s minions, up day and night running around online trying to find something to report back with, but never question what you’re out here reading day in day out?

And, by the way, how can SingingLass not understand her weight loss isn’t going anywhere lately because she’s sitting on her ass all day long doing nothing but kissing Kimmer’s ass?

Ban Button Happy SingingLass

Over at theTRUTH we are provided more insights on the banning of paid members at the Kimkins forums,
SingingLass wrote:

Reesie has not posted anything negative directly on this site….BUT, she is over at LCF, and today she was giving people the stats of when Kimmer was last on, posted, and all that….so, is doing “mole” activities.

I have not banned her as of yet, thought I would run it by the two of you first.

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That particular private message speaks of the continued surveillance of paid members of Kimkins when they post on forums outside the Kimkins forums. Yes, they’re watching you if you’re a member of Kimkins and if they’ve figured out who you are elsewhere!

Also, theTRUTH’s post includes an exchange between the admin Lasttime4me and Kimmer. You can read that here

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September 24, 2007 at 4:56 pm

ban kimmer

I just love the fact that this guy is one of the authorities on the site but he doesn’t know what’s on the diet? That’s flipping hilarious! Wat to go. Also do they not realize that “computer problems/will be fixed in a week” is Heidi speak for, I can’t long on cuz I am packing so STOP pming me. Wow.

September 24, 2007 at 5:14 pm

Me

No, she wants emails instead of PM’s so that they don’t keep getting posted.

Paranoid some Hidey?

September 24, 2007 at 8:19 pm

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September 24, 2007 at 10:24 pm

WOW

who ithe hell would want to pay for a site where they go around the internet and try to find you on other sites to spy on you???….Paranoid much..Geeezus!

Getting to Know tarvosK

While most of the admins at Kimkins find working for or with a charlatan not only offensive, but carries potential legal liabilities, some dig their heels in and are staying for the ride.Today we’ll get to know one such admin, tarvosk. In real life he’s Vincent (Vince), born March 8th, 1961, so he’s not someone who is young and naive here. He resides in Traverse City, Michigan with his fiance Darlene (Kimkins user name Kaiala).

He’s unemployed and has been for years, despite receiving employment offers to make him a gainfully employed member of society. Instead he spends much of his time idling away in classes at Northwestern, taking an occassional gig to make some money rather than work full-time.He’s quite a character too. Weighing 408 pounds in recent posts, he’s actually abandon eating the low calorie Kimkins diet, much preferring the quick and convenient food that’s available for grab and go as he visits his fiance in the hospital.

Not only that, he likens himself to a dominant in a submissive-dominant relationship and considers his fiance his property, unworthy and inferior to him.Yes, his fiance, who weighs 367 pounds, is in the hospital with kidney complications from an infection. Of course he insists it cannot be related to the diet they’ve been following all this time, K/E, which is very low calorie, very low in nutrients and thus lower immunity to infections. That he refuses to see the connection between her diet and her health problems speaks volumes about his belief he is superior and knows better than she. Still, let’s not forget, it’s worth noting again, he abandon the diet himself. Kimmer is truly culling the bottom these days if she is resorting to using admins with such penchant for domination over others. Though, it seems such thinking must be a pre-requisite these days at Kimkins since members continue to ask questions and keep waking up to the fact that Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is a liar.

This tarvosK admin should know he may be implicated in criminal and/or civil charges should he remain a loyal servant of Kimmer. And that of course is the real irony here, he is her servant, doing her dirty work, blindly obeying her commands. Ain’t life grand?

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September 24, 2007 at 5:27 pm

La Mesa

Funny he is supposed to be the ‘dominate one’ in his relationship….and yet…somehow…..he ends up being Heidi’s bitch!

September 24, 2007 at 5:47 pm

ban kimmer

Son of a bitch La Mesa! I was drinking when I read that. You are an ass! In the best possible way that is Holy crap that was some funny shit right there!

September 24, 2007 at 5:48 pm

doggygirl

Good one La Mesa!

Whew. If T’s partner has TRULY and WILLINGLY chosen a particular lifestyle, then ……enjoy…..I guess. If K is NOT willingly choosing this…then….. Wow. It’s so hard to tell (IMO) with the whole dominant / submissive lifestyle thing because from many miles away, who knows whether the submissive is choosing this or not – REALLY. But there is little doubt that T is submitting to Kimmer…..

Mean time, if K wants out of this thing with T, I hope she somehow asks for help from her hospital bed. There are just no words for this stuff….

At [url=http://doggygirl.wordpress.com]Doggygirl’s Dog House[/url] I am taking nominations for NEXT person to go into the dog house. Feel free to stop by and nominate T or somebody else. By the way…the actual DOGS in the dog house eat really, really well. Visit my blog to see what the people in the dog house get to eat!

DG

September 24, 2007 at 5:53 pm

Me

LOL @ LaMesa! Being Heidi’s bitch is good practice for later when he will be Bubba’s bitch in jail!

September 24, 2007 at 6:06 pm

Kim

LaMesa that is a classic!

How can something not click when you’re lying in a hospital bed with kidney complications? I’m pretty sure the hospital isn’t letting her follow the Kimkins plan while she’s in there….which should tell her something.

September 24, 2007 at 6:12 pm

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

It doesn’t surprise me that one of Kimmer’s top administrators doesn’t follow her diet …. look at Kimmer. She doesn’t either! And for that matter, neither does Tippy! Or that Othlia person.

In fact, does ANYBODY in administration over there follow the Kimkins WOE?

September 24, 2007 at 6:37 pm

The Princess Dieter

Tam, I am guffawing. It’s so true. None of the toppers are doing Kimkins! How funny is that? They’re fighting so hard to protect the plan, and they’re not even on the plan.

SNARF!!!

The Princess

September 24, 2007 at 7:09 pm

Reingold

Does Kimmer have anyone on staff that isn’t a societal deviant at this point?

SingingLass doesn’t pay her student loans and like Kimmer, laughs about it. She thinks she’s a psychic too?

tarvosK is some prevert.

Tippytoes is complete scum.

Kimmer is a fat obese blubber-butt peddling diet advice she herself can’t follow?

Did I miss anyone?

September 24, 2007 at 7:14 pm

wifezilla

Hey! Some of my best friends are social deviants….but they are not lairs or thieves or other form of scumbag like Kimmer and TT. Stop insulting the mentally interesting by comparing them to Heidi and her henchmen!

September 24, 2007 at 8:16 pm

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September 24, 2007 at 8:17 pm

too bad kimmer

How do we know SingingLass doesn’t pay her student loans?

September 24, 2007 at 8:40 pm

The Princess Dieter

As someone who loved her college years and who values education for all sorts of reasons, and who wants the colleges and universities of this fine nation to thrive and be the best they can be, I surely can say that loan scoffers piss me off big time.

It’s abusive. Someone always has to pay. Student loan skippers leave ALL THE REST OF US to pay.

May they get really bad hemorrhoids…the lot of them…and never be able to sit in peace.

So there.
The Princess has spoken…make it so!

September 24, 2007 at 8:52 pm

Kim

I am right there with you on that one Princess! I work w/ attorneys who have skipped out on their loans, or defer, defer, defer. It makes me sick! We pay extra every month just to try to get them paid off!!! And together, we’re not making what these attorneys are.

September 24, 2007 at 9:17 pm

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September 24, 2007 at 10:09 pm

Singinglass

I do pay my student loans, and my taxes. Please try not to make assumptions. I also am following the kimkins plan…with the approval of two different doctors. So yes, there are admins following the plan.

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Where is the pound a day promise with your weight loss Lassie?

September 25, 2007 at 1:18 pm

JenX

That guy sounds DISGUSTING. Gross.
Then again they all do–birds of a feather. Of course in this case the birds are vultures.

September 26, 2007 at 4:33 pm

LDub

OK, it just gets better about Tarvosk…. he just posted on KK that he and his fiance are practicing Wiccan’s… which to mere mortals means…. they both think they are witches! Oh, it just keeps ketting weirder and weirder over there!

SingingLass the Sycophant

If wanna_be_thin wonders why she was banned so quickly at Kimkins, here you go:

SingingLass wrote:

Just a wierd post by this one in the cafe titles ” First Ammendment” and a one-liner statement I will post below. Maybe didn’t say much, but the intent is pretty obvious.

first ammendment 2 Minutes ago

Allegations that diet is unsafe and there is a class action lawsuit.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) wrote:

Ban her and I’ll kick her off.

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Read more at theTRUTH.

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For your learning pleasure,

Sycophant
In modern English, the term has come to mean one who seeks to please people in positions of authority or influence in order to gain power themselves, usually at the cost of pride, principles, and peer respect.

Quick, Look! It’s a Bird, It’s a Plane, It’s Slander! Not!

We must say we appreciate the humor of theTRUTH. On the site today, theTRUTH continues with an amusing exchange between a member and Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) regarding the slamboard posting of the PI surveillance photos.

RE: Did you see this slander?

Serena wrote:

Kimmer,
I was cruising the web and saw this posted in another low card site http://www.slamboard.com/2007/09/05/heidi-diaz-kimmer-of-kimkins-surveillance-picture/

You need to sue girl!!!

Kimmer wrote:

Serena, are you too sweet or what! We’ve been going round and round, aren’t those people too much? Don’t you worry OK? And no stress eating, LOL!

Hugs,
Kimmer

Serena wrote:

I saw you removed my post, I am sorry, I didn’t mean to cause issues. I just was so mad that they did that I wanted you go get it asap.

Kimmer wrote:

Serena, I didn’t remove it. Probably an admin. They might have moved it to Kimmer Chatter forum? GET A DIET BUDDY!!!

K.

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