With all that happened yesterday and last night, you may have missed that theTRUTH posted private messages between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) that detailed the salary negotiation that occured prior to Tippy accepting a paid position on Kimkins.
We know for a fact that the salary Tippytoes accepted was less than previous paid staff, but Kimmer played it that she was paying Tippy well.
Success Story “Annette” is a fake!
The ‘after’ picture above is a Russian “model” named Svetlana; her portfolio is available through Elena Model’s, a site which appears to be a service for men to meet Russian women. Note the identical picture as above is on the left sidebar of photos to view.
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October 4, 2007 at 1:19 am
omgwtf
Bet you almost anything the infamous “red dress photo” came from this or a similar site. Because who would reasonably expect an American *woman* to ever cruise these sites and recognize a ripped “success story” photo? Heidi probably thought she was quite safe in lifting those photos.
October 4, 2007 at 1:20 am
Michalle
OMG!! That is (almost) unbelievable!! I’m ‘pretty sure’ that would be considered fraud! Good God, what hasn’t Heidikin thought of???
October 4, 2007 at 1:26 am
regandy
I bet you that woman in the RED dress is here also … somewhere! Her facial features and makeup have a european look… possibly Russian, you think?
Worth looking into… I would REALLY like to know who that woman is!!
October 4, 2007 at 1:27 am
ally
I have been waiting for the source of these “success” photos to come to light. There seems to be no end to this story. “Kimmer/Heidi” better get her legal “ducks” in a row.
October 4, 2007 at 1:39 am
Tooter
She also stole the kimkins logo from that site.
Take a look
:http://www.elenasmodels.com/services/membership.htm
October 4, 2007 at 1:46 am
Deni
And Svetlana is listed at 110 pounds! I bet she wouldn’t be to happy to see her “after” story listed at 142!!! 
October 4, 2007 at 1:50 am
Ginger
I never joined Kimkins, so I’m not familiar with the members there. However, I’m convinced many of the success stories are fabricated. Their before/after face shots don’t look similar enough. Or they look too young and firm to have lost a huge amount of weight that fast. Some of the stories sound gimmicky, like they were written by PR instead of average people.
Has anyone compiled a list of which of those success stories are traceable to specific members, and which are mysterious?
October 4, 2007 at 1:58 am
anonymouse
The look, quality, and background of this shot resemble the red dress shot very much in my mind — low-budget studio shot.
October 4, 2007 at 2:02 am
jenx
OMG. You can’t make this stuff up. Hahahaha.
October 4, 2007 at 2:39 am
Gordi
Who found the pic?
October 4, 2007 at 2:42 am
Chimp
Maybe this Russian bombshell was only able to achieve her dream of becoming a model after hot enough to date an American man until she did Kimkins and used Kimmer’s Retin A program.
I don’t think any of us realized that Kimmer is such an international globe trotting philanthropic success. It must be hell when one is such a private person. Serving orphans, obese Russians, helping the blind . . . No wonder she hides behind her good fat friend Heidi Diaz.
October 4, 2007 at 2:42 am
TerryC
I KNEW this was a fake…I tried to post the pictures on LCF before to ask if anyone else thought they were fake, but I didn’t know how and then I messed it up and then I gave up…But I was right.
October 4, 2007 at 3:05 am
Michalle
Tooter is correct . . . she did steal the logo from that same website. How much do you want to bet the red dress photo came from there too!?!? The poses of some of the girls and quality of the pictures are identical to the red dress photo.
October 4, 2007 at 3:07 am
itscloudyinhere
What about Annette? Is she known to others beside Heidi?
Have any of the “before’s” spoken up or do they not know that they’re being featured on that site?
October 4, 2007 at 4:05 am
Tam (Kimkins refugee)
The “Dina” after pic at Kimkins has been proven to be a fake also. A poster named stardust at LCF found that pic at one of the Russian bride sites too. See page 47 of the Fascination Thread #5 at LFC.
http://www.kimkins.com/component/option,com_cxportfolio/task,showdetails/id,4/Itemid,/
October 4, 2007 at 5:27 am
Mimi
Good catch, Tooter!
October 4, 2007 at 5:48 am
2big4mysize
lowcarb4me found 2 more http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/kimkins/519036-why-fascination-kimmer-5-a-55.html#post9301305
so does that leave any real ones?
October 4, 2007 at 5:59 am
freedomtochoose
Interesting stuff. However, if I recall correctly, Slamboard posted that Catherine McDonald did the website programming, marketing, and technical stuff and assembled content so it may be wise to hear from her before accusing anybody of “stealing” logos. Maybe she could also say whether Kimmer was solely responsible for success stories at the beginning of the partnership.
Also, way back on this blog at the time of the “Selling an Image” post, there was a group of success story photos and commentary as to why they might be fake, but those later disappeared from the blog. Why were they removed, Ducky?
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Perhaps you’re mistaking our blog for another? We did not tackle the issue of faked success stories previously, nor remove a post about such.
October 4, 2007 at 11:06 am
Princess Dieter
Well, as of this minute, the LCF ladies have found a bunch of false success story pics from the Russian bride/model sites. I believe it’s 10 totally confirmed fakes (with links to the Kimkins success story and to the Russian dating/model sites).
Ten.
Oh, yeah. That red dress pic will be showing up. It’s a matter of time.
The Princess….really needs to go sleep…
October 4, 2007 at 6:01 pm
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October 4, 2007 at 6:57 pm
Stiff
I TOTALLY guessed Russian!!!!
I figured a good percentage would be Russian!
In an exclusive release of a detailed information from Kimkins, theTRUTH posts a message in which Kimmer continues to insist she is not Heidi Diaz, even though we all know better.
It is both shocking to see and incredibly telling about how far Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will go to continue perpetuating the lies and frauds.
Kimmer wrote:
We are surprised that the extent of their investigation was to post information from the anti-Kimmer websites. We cannot make this any more plain that I am not Heidi. She and I have been friends since high school and when I began posting on the internet nearly 10 years ago I used Heidi. As I’ve mentioned, I also use other names when writing, particularly for men’s magazines. Heidi is an owner of Kimkins.com and nothing more. How do I say this nicely? She doesn’t “care” about Kimkins. Her interests are in other areas entirely. I did not trust Catherine (former partner) and Heidi stepped in as me. She has not seen the news clip but I will be seeing her this weekend.
The news clip me of the “diet review” done by About.com which also only parrots the anti-Kimmer blogs. No medical review. No impartiality. Hundreds of pro-Kimkins members wrote to Laura Dolson (who was impressed with their intelligence she told me), but didn’t change her review at all.
Oh well, can’t win them all.
The focus of Kimkins.com has always been about weight loss. We want to keep that focus. We’ve had 3 new success stories submitted this week and CONGRATS to those members! We’ll have them up soon and thanks for your generosity in sharing to motivate others!
The Kimkins partners have formed a management group headed by Tippy Toes. All of the admins, partners, staff and I are hard at work behind the scenes making Kimkins a bigger and better site for our members. Tippy Toes has graciously accepted responsibility for coordinating everyone (when does that girl sleep) and she’s doing a stellar job!
If anyone has questions, ask an admin! Danielle & Wannabefit2 are Kimkins staffers. We appreciate the enormous amount of time all admins donate to Kimkins members. They are extremely generous people.
We’ve got some exciting features to announce very soon — all designed to help with life_style_ changes for permanent weight loss. Stay tuned!
Read the full post at theTRUTH Starts Here
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October 3, 2007 at 4:34 pm
Cryssi
She comments in the first paragraph about it being Heidi. Then she turns around and says “In the news clip of ME…”
Which is it you big, fat, liar?????
October 3, 2007 at 4:34 pm
On the Sidelines
Ok let me get this straight. She says she is not Hedi but a size 4 girl in a red dress. Well then way did she says this:
taken from above: “The news clip ME”
Ok how can she be a size 4 girl and big the woman in the news clip.
Wake up people this woman can not keep her lies straight anymore. Please wake up before you do serious damage to yourself.
October 3, 2007 at 4:35 pm
2big4mysize
if Heidi isn’t kimmer two questions
why didi kimmers podcast with Jimmy Moore voice come out of her mouth when she said no comment?
Why didn’t she just say no I am not that woman in that pic as I am not kimmer just a chilkdhood friend and employee?
October 3, 2007 at 4:46 pm
Dottie
I am going to need a roll-eye-ectomy after this….
October 3, 2007 at 4:49 pm
mac
Kimmer with friends like who needs enemies?
October 3, 2007 at 4:49 pm
mac
oops you
October 3, 2007 at 4:53 pm
JenX
lmfao. hidey you’re finished!
October 3, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Kim
So, let’s take her at her word (yes, I’m choking as I say that)…then why doesn’t she just prove she’s not Heidi? It’s as simple as a podcast, a news story (which I’m sure the reporter doing the story right now would give her the opportunity to do just that). PROVE it instead of sitting behind your keyboard and tripping yourself up on your lies.
Heidi – You have lied SO much, nobody believes ANYTHING you say…you can’t even keep your own lies straight anymore. Your own postings prove yourself wrong – there isn’t even a need for a P.I. anymore, you prove the lies for us. All that the Ducky’s and theTRUTH’s in the world have to do is copy and paste your own posts, you prove yourself wrong everytime. Your day in court is coming and if you were EVER a foster parent or CASA, your fingerprints are on record sweety, so sitting in front of a judge and saying you aren’t Heidi Diaz won’t work, just set you up for more charges – perjury. We know the truth, you know the truth, you are just grasping at straws.
Sorry for the rant, but on top of being duped out of my hard earned money, this woman is now insulting my intelligence. It it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s certainly not a dog, it’s a duck…yes, that pun is intended! It is Heidi, we all know it – and she continues to think she is going to get away with this.
October 3, 2007 at 5:20 pm
MicheleP
Hidey:
You are a lying sack of SNATT!
October 3, 2007 at 5:41 pm
Just Ducky
We accidentally deleted a comment and aren’t sure even which post it was made to. It included links to archives of the Kimkins website prior to the changes now underway. If that person can repost, it would be greatly appreciated.
October 3, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Kim
Tippy toes and management used together in the same sentence is just plain hilarious!!!
Does anybody know if anyone has posted or tried to post the link to the newscast on Kimkins today?
October 3, 2007 at 5:50 pm
itscloudyinhere
What will happen when Heidi is ordered by the court to produce kimmer and she can’t/won’t?
October 3, 2007 at 5:53 pm
itscloudyinhere
Remember that psychopaths don’t break even when they’re caught.
They typically try to befriend the police and detectives as someone who’s “not-guilty-just-trying-to-be-a-helpful-citizen” would.
October 3, 2007 at 6:59 pm
jwc
I just hope they don’t try to put Kimmer and Heidi in separate jail cells. Could get messy.
October 3, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Stiff
Heidi was her cousin, then her friend, then some random business partner, etc…pleaaaaaaaaaase.
Why would you be partner in something you care nothing about? It happens when big bucks are made and complicated projects arise, but it’s a diet site that apparently all you have to do is sit at your keyboard all day to control. I don’t think that comment is CLOSE to making sense about Heidi not caring.
ALL before pictures match with Heidi. The fun part is that Kimmers old avatar on LCF is the same person in the before pictures/dating site pictures of Heidi…which is the same person in Kimmer’s before picture…
….yeaaaaah.
How can someone be so dumb? She doesn’t follow the diet so obviously doesn’t have light-headedness, nausea, or brain damage…except maybe from staring at the screen all day…
“I did not trust Catherine (former partner) and Heidi stepped in as me”
Does that just not add up to anyone else?
October 3, 2007 at 7:31 pm
Dottie
Catherine never met kimmer/heidi, so that’s just an off-the-wall claim anyway.
October 3, 2007 at 10:11 pm
antikimkins
Right, Stiff, yet she has also claimed that Heidi knows nothign about Kimkins and doesn’t care, she just collects the money. So how would Heidi “step in for her” without any Kimkins knowledge?
And IF IF IF IF Heidi and Kimmer were two different peeps (and pigs really do fly) why doesn’t Heidi just whip out Kimmer’s pic and say, “look, HERE”s the woman in the red dress who lost all the weight, this is Kimmer!” She doesn’t even try to defend herself. If that was MY friend and she was the one who lost the weight but I was bankrolling the business, I’d sure put her face on everything and make it clear that she was the success story. I wouldn’t run and hide and say No Comment.
Sheesh, people, wake up!!!
October 3, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Kimmer Continues to Lie, “I am not Heidi” by diet.MEDtrials.info
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October 4, 2007 at 1:07 am
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October 4, 2007 at 2:28 am
Jazzy
Kimmer’s ‘before’ picture is without a doubt the same woman that Kimmer claims is Heidi.
So…she used a picture of Heidi as her before picture and then her own picture as her after picture??? Does she even know what she’s saying anymore.
How can anyone read that explanation and still believe her?
October 4, 2007 at 1:34 pm
Not Heidi Either
Kimmer isn’t Heidi?
Who cares? We’ll take Heidi. We can prove Heidi started Kimkins, we can prove she’s taking money for it, hiring the admins, paying for the server. She is Kimkins. If she’s not Kimmer, who cares, she’s as culpable and guilty as Kimmer then. If Kimmer has done such a good job pretending to be Heidi, then Heidi will not be able to prove she’s *not* Kimmer.
Let Heidi take the fall for you, Kimmer, we don’t care. We’ll take her and let her pay for your mistakes. She won’t be able to avoid paying for them because she won’t be able to prove she’s not Kimmer unless you come forward and then we have you.
WIN-WIN. For us. Either we, we got ya (or Heidi). 
October 4, 2007 at 7:09 pm
Laura Dolson from About.com Banned at Kimkins « Kimkins Exposed
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In our comments, Becky (former admin Littlebit) commented about Kimmer’s private emails to her regarding very low calorie intake.
Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) wrote:
Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.
Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is “high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight loss will be different. Don’t forget people who dabble in days of fasting, too.
If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else, maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was their weight loss accomplished by methods we would want to follow? Many people on this site have a problem with very low calories and refuse.
In a ridiculous explanation about monitoring of private messages sent between members, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) had this to say about the matter.
Tippytoes wrote:
The reason for the PM’s being monitored is to find the sources who are hacking in by simply reading…
We are making this known to you so that there is no misunderstanding later.
As far as who is reading them, I will not say for protection of that admin. That admin has a job to do for the good of this site and the good of its members. Nothing more, nothing less. The same admin has been very busy uncovering a lot elsewhere and bit by bit we are winning this war.
I am hoping we will not need to do this forever. But we have to face facts here. The hackers came on to this site with harm’s intent. They did PM to each other and we know this now. So this is why we are monitoring and what we hope to stop.
Again, we apologize but feel we must take this action.
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October 2, 2007 at 2:55 pm
Kim
But yet didn’t all the previous posts say that nobody had access to PM’s? So now, they are being monitored and they’re tryint to justify why.
October 2, 2007 at 3:07 pm
TerryC
So the hackers are getting into KK and sending each other pm’s? Now why would they do such a stupid thing? Why didn’t they just call each other? So many questions.
October 2, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Anonymous
Um… weren’t the PMs accessible to admins *before* they started showing up on the internet?
October 2, 2007 at 4:29 pm
sandsandles
The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.
OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.
Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.
If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.
October 2, 2007 at 4:30 pm
sandsandles
… sorry, posted the cruise comment under wrong topic… but still applies!
October 2, 2007 at 5:06 pm
ixtapacheryl
OMG! I can’t believe those remaining members are buying that excuse! Those poor people can’t even share with one another their outside e-mail addresses. Why won’t Heidi/TT allow that?
October 2, 2007 at 5:43 pm
Julie
Okay, so the hackers are supposed to be smart enough to hack into the system and read the PMs but too stupid to realize that someone else might be reading their PMs.
And this is what people are supposed to believe? Seriously? What kind of logic is that?
October 2, 2007 at 8:23 pm
theTRUTH
If she wants war, I have plenty of “ammo” saved up…
October 2, 2007 at 9:15 pm
Princess Dieter
Well, there was no WAR before and all the admins and Heidi/Kimmer had free access to read PMs. Why doesn’t that scare members?
And then it came down to only Heidi and one admin having access, cause, well, “Kimmer” stopped trusting the others?
And now it’s being monitored cause of hackers?
My advice to Kimkinettes: Flee. How can you trust anything the rulership at Kimkins says? Even when they go back and say, “All is well. PMs are private,” well, you know they WON’T BE, cause they NEVER WERE. Heidi/Kimmer wouldn’t tolerate not being able to see everything going on in her kingdom. FLEE.
The Princess
October 3, 2007 at 3:34 am
ghoov
An admin of a Forum should never have reason to read PM’s, it’s none of their business. Yes, it is their site but still it’s wrong… unless they put it in writing in the TOS. Anyone know if it’s in the TOS?
Ah well perhaps after they read this, it will magically appear – get some screenshots people.
October 3, 2007 at 10:37 pm
Sarah van
What an idiot. It’s not “hacking” if you have a paid membership and access to the forum. That is, after all, what you pay MONEY for. If you don’t want to post and instead just use the IM function, that’s your right.
October 5, 2007 at 10:16 pm
claudia
What a shame all this has happened. Shame for the members, shame for the dieters, shame for the implicated admins and mods and, yes, shame for kimmer.
Just to state my position: I’m not a kimmer supporter. I am, however, a kimkins supporter. There is no doubt that that regime has helped many people lose weight both at kimmers and at lowcarbfriends.
I won’t sport with anyone’s intelligence by supporting the insupportable however as anyone considered that kimmer herself probably got caught in her own celebrity?
She went from doyen of diet on LCF to Empress Protein on kimkins. A heady ride for anyone, let alone someone who may not be intellectually, emotionally or psychiatrically equipped. Seems to me, she got strapped into the ride as much as anyone.
The fact that she’s now overweight (I do believe that she lost all that weight originally but gained it back, probably through eating to ameliorate the feelings she has about being a criminal) doesn’t take away from the fact that many people have lost, and continue to lose, weight on kimkins.
And people forgotten the years and years she spent on lowcarbfriends tirelessly and pleasantly helping people. It seems incongrous and quite barely believable that she intentionally, five years out, decided to become “kimmer”, the wonder dieter, with the long-term view of $40 per subscriber.
I think she started her own site and voila! it became something extraordinary. From there, she made some really dreadful decisions which culminated in her being America’s No.1 Most Wanted – Internet Division.
Can you imagine the pressure? Even if she has, as has been speculated, a sociopathic personalithy disorder, she must be close to break down or worse.
Her most foolish mistake was to continue to stuff down doughnuts whilst she espoused contrary principals. I can’t even imagine what kind of aridity that produces in a person, although I guess all those subscription fees will should cheer her up!
Had she fessed up and told everyone she’d fallen off the wagon then she wouldn’t be potentially going to gaol.
This morning, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) is digging in and trying to explain the changes made to the homepage of the Kimkins website. In it, she lays blame for health problems on those following the Kimkins plans.
Tippytoes wrote:
What happened to Kimmer’s Red Dress Picture?
We are making many new and positive changes to this site every single day. We have chosen to remove the red dress photo and in place use People magazine. Too much contravery surrounds that pic and rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it. The success stories are still there although someone else did ask me where they went. I checked and they are there. Not sure if this is a tech glitch or not. But I can look further into it. Does anyone else not see them?
I think it was well said previously that Kimkins diet has been abused by some members at their own doings who now point the finger in blame towards us. We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own. We do not promote starvation, laxitive abuse or any of the like and we are making this clear. There will always be room for improvements and we are always willing to make them. We have even introduced a cycle option as part of the positive change and to help transition towards maintenance later.
We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff. However, rest assured we have some new gathering ideas in the works for next year. What we have in mind will be better and will geer more in tuned with Kimkins diets than an all you can eat fest cruise. I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.
The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here. We have a walk for breast cancer coming up and I will be posting more soon. In addition we are considering a fundraiser challenge to benefit Toys For Tots. Members participating would make and pay their own pledges directly to Toys For Tots. There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.
So hang tight, my fellow Kimkinettes! Change is GOOD!
I want you all to not be afraid to see positive changes being made. This only means we are here to stay and getting better all the time.
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October 2, 2007 at 2:32 pm
Dottie
“rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it.”
But of course… much easier just to pretend it never existed.
“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”
Melt’s contribution to the renovations?
October 2, 2007 at 2:37 pm
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October 2, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Kimmerexia
Tippytoes sez: “We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own.”
No need to “abuse” Kimkins. At 500 to 1,000 calories, it’s already starvation!!!
Tippytoes spins: “We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard [SIC] for Kimkins members as well as staff.”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Wouldn’t have anything to do with Regandy, the cruise organizer, jumping ship from the sinking good ship Kimtanic, would it? Noooooooooo, of course not!!!
Tippytoes defines: “Kimkinettes!”
Ah, so THAT’S what the remaining smattering of duped sugar-free kool-aid drinking minions are officially called.
Tippytoes pathetically optimistically quips: “The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here.”
Yes indeed. The lawsuits, governmental investigations and transitioning former KimkinETTES from starvation to healthful ways of eating is gonna be a friggin’ laugh a minute.
October 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Kim
“I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.”
Don’t trust the members to make their own decisions on what they eat? Why not tell the real reason….Heidi still wouldn’t show her face and too many questions were asked about it, so it was decided to just remove all info and hope they’ve banned everyone who knew about Heidi’s refusal.
October 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm
Becky/Littlebit
Members abusing the plan and eating low calories against Kimmer” will?
This is typical “blame the victim” abusive thinking.
Anyone who has been around Kimkins for long knows that ultra-low calories was always Kimmer’s intention. It is precisely what makes it Kimkins, not Atkins.
When I was on Boot Camp, exercising, eating an average of 465 calories a day, and stalled, and had the nerve to complain about it and decide to increase my fats, Kimmer’s emailed response was (and i quote):
“Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in
calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.
Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is
“high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the
Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight
loss will be different. Don’t forget people who
dabble in days of fasting, too.
If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else,
maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was
their weight loss accomplished by methods we would
want to follow? Many people on this site have a
problem with very low calories and refuse. “
October 2, 2007 at 3:20 pm
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October 2, 2007 at 3:36 pm
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October 2, 2007 at 3:40 pm
Kimmerexia
Funny that Tippytoes doesn’t refer to the pic as “Kimmer’s AFTER picture.”
No, it’s referred to as “the red dress picture” because even Jeannie Baitinger, Director of Public Relations for Kimkins doesn’t believe that it could possibly Kimmer’s AFTER picture.
October 2, 2007 at 4:31 pm
regandy
The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.
OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.
Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.
If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.
October 2, 2007 at 4:42 pm
anani
I am sick beyond words that Tippy would put the blame on the members for taking the diet to extremes. The extreme nature of this diet was carefully coached and taught by Kimmer herself. The following is a direct copy of Kimmer’s words to a newbie. I have the screen shot to back this up if it is ever needed.
Member asks Kimmer:
I’m new here – just started yesterday.
Which plan is designed for the fastest weight loss results?
I’m on KE and don’t have a problem with it. I was looking at Boot Camp and wondering is it’s designed for quicker weight loss results?
Thanks!!
Kimmer’s response:
The very fastest would be the Meal Replacement Shake option because there’s no chance of messing up. 450 calories a day, that’s it.
Second is Boot Camp because the protein and salads are limited, but someone could still pick a higher calorie protein by accident.
K/E was originally the fastest, but it’s not always anymore because some people tend to be creative about what a “lean” protein is plus overeating with too big portions or small snacks all day .
Kimkins is the slowest and still way faster than any other non-Kimkins plan except water fasting.
Another Member asks:
Hi Kimmer
You just posted a relpy that the Replacement Shake option is 450 caloris a day but when I look at the plan under KIMKINS Diet Plans it says 800 calories a day. Which is correct?
Kimmer’s response:
It would be 800 if you choose 200 calorie shakes and 4 per day. Personally, as long as I’m doing shakes (which are not incredibly exciting anyway), I’d find a 150 calorie version and limit to 3 (skipping a snack shake).
But I’m impatient.
October 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm
ixtapacheryl
“A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory”
OMG more fund raisers? No cruise scheduled because of safety issues?
October 2, 2007 at 5:05 pm
Stiff
So, this morning Yahoo greeted me with these articles:
http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19365/6-diets-to-avoid
http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19885/the-skinny-on-4-fad-diets;_ylt=AtuWsn6WiXWM8xqU5xWQeuka788F
Mmmmmmmm I smell Kimkins in those guidelines…
October 2, 2007 at 5:17 pm
Kimmer’s/Heidi’s minions at their best « All about Kimkins & more
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October 2, 2007 at 5:26 pm
Stiff
“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”
This really makes me laugh after Melt/Kimmer PM about animals.
October 2, 2007 at 6:16 pm
cando
I can’t believe this. Back in June when I posted on that site I was having “potty problems” I was told to try Exlax by several memebers and Kimmer. Becky Lil Bit came through with the suggestion of Smooth Move tea, which is herbal. I went with Becky’s suggestion and another one of two stalks of celery a day…that worked. ’cause I know that Exlax used on a regular basis can really mess you up big time.
But until people started complaining, they were promoting laxatives as a way of life. It seem to me that when I first joined, all people were eating on that site were eggwhites and Exlax. Back in my 20’s, I went on an Exlax, Dr. Pepper, M&M’s and cigerette diet for about a month, Lost tons of weight.
Man, I need to get me a web site and start sellin’ that. It was way more fun than egg whites and Exlax.
So, Tippy, your plan use to promote laxative use. Which attorney told you to stop?
And fundraisers? Man, that’s great. I guess getting $59.95 one time out of members isn’t good enough. “fund raisers” for the Pad My Pocket foundation. I’ll pass thank you.
October 2, 2007 at 6:36 pm
Antikimmerite
To top it all off SingingAss needs to learn to spell. Or edit. That was painful to read.
October 2, 2007 at 6:39 pm
finleysmom
This post made me so angry!! This was my reply on the site with my goodbye.
Too much controversy surrounding the red dress???? Are you kidding me??? Why not fix this then????? There should be NO controversy!!! FIX THIS by proving what is real! I don’t understand what the problem is. If the picture is Kimmer then PROVE IT! Why all the secrets, changes, drama, and lies??? WHY??? I have been around since the beginning on LCF. I was one of the first 20 members of Kimkins when all was hailed…”isn’t it nice to be on a site where you can speak freely and not have PM’s read and posts changed/deleted” WTF? This place is worse than LCF EVER was. What is wrong with you crazy people?? This is a nut house now. I can’t believe what has happened to this place. I feel so sad for the members who don’t understand that all of this change is a horrible sign. I am so sad it has come to this.
Goodbye all and good luck to finding what works for you!
October 2, 2007 at 6:43 pm
finleysmom
Oh, and yes I was banned for this post LOL!
October 2, 2007 at 9:06 pm
Princess Dieter
There is no limit to Tippy Toes’ reprehensible twisting of actual experiences and reality. Dang, that’s some shiny 30 pieces of silver there, Tips.
Controversy and the red dress? hahaha There would be no controversy if it was Kimmer, now would there be? The controversy is that it’s NOT.
And all that site scrubbing. Did you get all those Kimmer posts urging people to eat less, less, less and take laxatives? Did you?
And the members to blame? Boy. For someone who doesn’t follow the plan, you have some nerve judging those who DID in good faith.
You know, some people really do need to go down hard with the ship and captain…
So glad Christin and others are out there to put the lie to Tipper’s propaganda.
The Princess
October 2, 2007 at 9:52 pm
CR
“the red dress picture”
Why not say the “picture of Kimmer” LMAO…..
What a freakin JOKE!!!!
No cruise because there is food on it ROFLMAO…..
it just gets better everytime….the lies, the twists, the stupidity LOL
October 2, 2007 at 10:55 pm
moo
“We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff”
WTF lol. Oh and would someone PLEASE buy TT a friggen dictionary (and teach her how to use it).
October 2, 2007 at 11:56 pm
Round-up Review « Kimkins Scam
[...] Tippytoes Blames Members for Health Problems « Kimkins Exposed [...]
October 3, 2007 at 7:36 am
Sue
Tippy – you’re a bitch!
Name Email Website
Your comment
Well, as all can see, the call to contact WordPress by those within Kimkins to shut Ducky up was for naught. We’re still here and will remain since we are not, as we said yesterday, in violation of the TOS, nor do we plan to violate the TOS anytime soon. We carefully consider our words before publication and always remain within the boundaries of the law and the terms of service we agreed to when we registered this blog.
After careful consideration, we have edited out our ‘in jest remark’ in a post regarding SingingLass and have retained the original so as to ensure its integrity should it be needed later.
For those reading, be aware that threatening others by phone, in person, or in email is a criminal offense. It is something we abhor and we will cooperate fully with authorities if we are approached about our records here. Enough said on that matter.
This morning we’re given a treat from theTRUTH, another private message exchange between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and melt (a member) to highlight they are indeed two different people.
SingingLass is a bit miffed. She obviously has no clue about public records and reporting their contents online.
SingingLass wrote:
Re:Heads Up
If your privacy has been violated in the form of your posts, or even your private messages being posted over on ” the other site”…..you can email REMOVED. This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it and complain. They actually have in their terms of service that the privacy of third parties cannot be violated…..and yet they are posting things without permission from a private site. They also are instigating hate, and some other tactics that happened against myself this last weekend that I will post more on later. I am sure they are going to have more fun posting this post, tippy’s and others, because they do not have anything else to feed their mob….and actually are getting twisted enjoyment and entertainment value at intimidating, and terrorizing others. A line has been crossed in this situation.
*****
We reply, information from public records posted is not a violation of privacy.
Those concerned about privacy should not be listed in the phone book, posting online looking for dates, or disclosing their personal information themself in online posts.
ALL information posted here is obtained completely in open records and posts available online and/or from public records.
Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) posted in Kimkins moments ago:
Re:Heads Up
I just have to say it is very bad out there. This has turned out to be a very active hate group. I see no difference in this hate as any other hate, be it for blacks, hispanics, against abortion or whatever. This hate group is snowballing into a larger group all of the time. Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.
If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.
If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.
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October 1, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Kimkins Dangers
The best thing Tippy could ever have done.. get Homeland Security involved in this and watch how fast Kimkins disappears.. lol That Tippy doesn’t think, does she. lol
October 1, 2007 at 3:11 pm
Kim
Isn’t TT the one who sent threats, REAL threats, to Dottie that included mention of her kids?
Pot? Kettle? I haven’t seen any of us making threats…stating actions we are taking, but threats? I don’t think so.
October 1, 2007 at 3:14 pm
MicheleP
“Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.
If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.
If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.”
First of all… its THEIR not thier, use spellcheck!
October 1, 2007 at 3:17 pm
MicheleP
“Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.
If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.
If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.”
First of all… its THEIR not thier, use spellcheck!
Next… Your perception on what I legal and illegal is as questionable as your motives. You think it illegal to comment on a morbidly obese woman who passes herself off as a successful diet guru, using pictures that don’t even look like her or each other that that matter, lol, and that this woman FRAUDLENTLY collected what is esimated to be millions of dollars from unsuspecting people. You think it is illegal to expose this Kimmer? Give me a break. Get some serious help, professionally.
October 1, 2007 at 3:34 pm
kkatastrophediet
Hey Tippy! Consider this notification!
http://kkatastrophediet.wordpress.com/
Long live JUSTICE!!!
October 1, 2007 at 3:44 pm
Kimmerexia
Tippy’s right. I’m a terrorist.
October 1, 2007 at 3:47 pm
bobbin
Umm… it’s snowballing into a bigger and bigger group all of the time because more and more people are waking up to the fact that Kimmer and her admins (TT) are thieves, and liars. Everyone wakes up eventually.
October 1, 2007 at 3:50 pm
Violet Skye
WTF??? Tippykins, maybe it’s time to take a walk outside or a power-nap. I think you’ve been logging a bit too much time as an admin and it’s taking its toll on your sense of proportion.
October 1, 2007 at 4:23 pm
angie
Its snowballing into a bigger goup is because Kimkins is getting exposed as the scam that it is. More people are being educated about Heidi Diaz, Tippy Toes a.k.a. Jeannie Baitinger for the scam artists, liars and thieves that they are. Sweet victory will be when they are behind bars.
October 1, 2007 at 4:30 pm
ixtapacheryl
I think TT needs to get some legal advice ….. what we are doing is not considered illegal. TT, extortion/threats on your part towards the LCF administrators is very questionable.. and I would be frightened if I were you.
We have all been defrauded and scammed. If you feel the heat is escalating, my suggestion is to run (not walk) away from KK’s site before it’s too late (and that is not a threat), just a caring suggestion. Please please distance yourself from her. No amount of money that she is possibly paying you is worth being her employee. You don’t want to end up being the “fall” guy in all of this.
October 1, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Princess Dieter
Excuse me? Blowing up people with a car bomb is terrorism. Passing anthrax around in the mail is terrorism. Setting fire to churches and temples to intimidate and kill is terrorism.
Exposing dangerous diets and possible commercial fraud is not terrorism.
If Tippy is so concerned about illegalities, maybe she should investigate her boss and make sure that’s all clean and nice and on the up and up.
Oh, right. Her boss is PAYING her for this “public relations.”
I hope the mass of Kimkinites still over there see Tippy’s statement for the offense it is to victims of real terrorism.
Tippy, one phrase: 9-11
Look it up if you have forgotten.
The Princess
October 1, 2007 at 4:39 pm
Concerned about kimkins
Yes, Tippy, glad to see you are getting an “edumifcation” Stupid ass. Why don’t you research internet fraud. Why don’t you see what you are responsible for, in raising money for a fake charity? Bet you a dollar me calling Heidi fat will be far less important than you screwing people out of money.
Tippy=hillbilly douchebag!
October 1, 2007 at 4:43 pm
honeybeesblog
This was just posted up at KK as an example of the threatening emails that they have received there.
The poster then put comments after the threatening email that they were sharing. I think it is safe to say that the same person who wrote the comments also wrote the email. No screen names were used to protect the Identity of the poster…umm..but none needed.
Quote:
“We kzuw wko u r axd tke eivl u r diong. Us dcuks woll sotp at ntohnig utikl Kimkins hws foleln! We arre innakttnig a waar of teriror!!
Qacuk Qacuk.”
i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!. At lseat Mssis awlyas is syanig how ipmorantt it is to msot.
Ok…yes I am kidding… but you know the PR department could have written this!!
——-
Edited to bold that this is a joke.
October 1, 2007 at 4:52 pm
PrincessDucky
She’s lost it.
October 1, 2007 at 4:53 pm
Sheridan
“Isn’t TT the one who sent threats, REAL threats, to Dottie that included mention of her kids?”
Yes, and she also sent a similar threat to Melly, one of the chat admins.
Ephesians 5:11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, rebuke and expose them.
October 1, 2007 at 5:22 pm
Healthy LCer
From JWC:
HOMELAND SECURITY DUCK ADVISORY
Current Threat Level VERY YELLOW
WARNING
We have received credible information that there is an errant flock of yellow ducks roaming the streets of Corona, California in search of a skinny woman in a red dress. Following close behind the loudly quacking flock, are packs of small kittens and puppies hissing and snarling in unison, although some were observed smiling and winking as well. No one has been able to locate said skinny woman in red dress, so it is possible she has become duck food.
It has been reported that a somewhat larger woman in white stretch pants was seen running towards the airport followed by a rather tipsy female meandering recklessly as she tries to find new words in the dictionary. A third woman was observed staring intently into a crystal ball and screaming, “The ducks are coming, the ducks are coming!” Another follower was observed melting into the pavement reminiscent of the Wicked Witch of the West fame. The female in white stretch pants was then observed trying to obliterate the footprints behind her, but this did not seem to deter the flock of duck bills snapping at her heals.
It is critical that all who have reason to fear ducks, kittens, and puppies, should be on the lookout for these grave terroristic threats. In mass, quacking duckbills can be very effective weapons. Given enough quacks the world is sure to listen.
October 1, 2007 at 5:34 pm
Dottie
Clearing that up: My email was from Kimmer, not TT. I haven’t had any contact with Tippy except a PM before her cruise asking about how to search for something at LCF.
October 1, 2007 at 5:42 pm
anonymous
Posted by a KK member in response to TT’s post and deleted in rapid time:
I’m sorry, but I consider this to be highly offensive content. I live in Oklahoma, and was the news director for an all-news radio station at the time of the Murrah bombing in Oklahoma City. I know what terrorism looks like (smells like, feels like, sounds like) — and what’s going on the other sites ain’t it! Furthermore, to equate people who happen to be critical of Kimkins at other sites with neo-Nazi groups, the KKK or other extremists is ludicrous and insulting, and demonstrates a complete disregard for how truly dangerous an honest-to-goodness terrorist or hate group truly is. That comparison is completely inappropriate and ignorant.
Apparently, though, there’s no shred of free speech left here — if your thoughts don’t comply with what is considered to be “in line” with the “approved thinking”, you’re gone. . .
So ban away, Tippy Toes. Even though I haven’t said anything _object_ionable, I haven’t posted anything offensive, I haven’t included _link_s to “inappropriate” blogs, you’ll ban me because my opinion differs from yours.
And for anyone who reads this before it gets deleted and I get tossed, be aware that your health is your business — but you should be highly suspicious of anyplace that dictates to you what you can and can’t read or write.
And for the record, I have not copied any posts or PMs to other sites — my choice to leave Kimkins was mine, and I don’t believe that it is acceptable to “out” other people because they don’t agree with me. . . unlike some. I might choose to post this post someplace else, but it’s mine — and as the author, I have the right to use my words as I please.
I will continue to participate in other forums at other sites, where discussion can be freely held and honest but respectful communication is more important than the specific dogma of whatever WOE you choose. I’m not recruiting; you’re all grown-ups and can make your own choices — and I choose to go elsewhere.
C-ya!
October 1, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Mayberryfan
Two words for Tippy: Desparate. Pathetic.
October 1, 2007 at 6:00 pm
Exkimkinite
Yo Hidey!!!!
Are you embarrassed yet by Tippy making a complete moron of herself? Honestly woman, I gave you credit for more smarts than to have an idiot like this onboard at KK. Good grief. Terrorists. Someone quick – ALERT THE MEDIA.
October 1, 2007 at 6:15 pm
angie
I have 2 words for Tippy too: Fruit loop.
October 1, 2007 at 6:26 pm
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October 1, 2007 at 6:28 pm
2big4mysize
This is a pathetic tactic to scare those involved. You’d think being from the south she’d remeber that tactic of claiming federal law violations didn’t work against the civil rights boycotters in Alabama as the US supreme court ruled in their favor.
October 1, 2007 at 6:51 pm
theTRUTH
She sure scared me. I guess they are going to apply the patriot act now that we have been branded as terrorists. LMAO.
October 1, 2007 at 6:51 pm
TerryC
Kimmer has fled the asylum and left the “patients” in charge.
October 1, 2007 at 6:53 pm
theTRUTH
Now that we are branded as terrorists, maybe melt will like us better…
October 1, 2007 at 7:29 pm
Concerned about kimkins
2big, everything you just said I assure you went RIGHT OVER that hillbilly’s head. Are you kidding me? You think Tippy would know anything about civil rights, she’s still trying to figure out how to type/spell properly. Tippy is a moron, and the fact that she is the “Spokesperson/spokeshillbilly” for Kimkins, is AWESOME, it just helps those of us trying to out the company. When this hits that national media, they are gonna have a day with Tippy’s moronic ramblings. Ahhhh victory will be sweet.
October 1, 2007 at 7:33 pm
Dottie
October 1st, 2007 at 6:51 pm
TerryC
Kimmer has fled the asylum and left the “patients” in charge.
That’s what I’m wondering, too. When was the last time Kimmer shows online or posted?
October 1, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Stiff
“I just have to say it is very bad out there. This has turned out to be a very active hate group. I see no difference in this hate as any other hate, be it for blacks, hispanics, against abortion or whatever. This hate group is snowballing into a larger group all of the time. Thier intimidation and scare tactis are not only unreasonable but quite illegal.”
That was the most professional statement I have ever heard…
…coming from a hillbilly.
“If you have been threatened or intimidated by this group please notify your local authorities and us. These are acts of terrorism.”
In other words…Please, let me copy exactly what the haters are telling everyone to do by contacting your authorities because I have no brain to think on my own.
And let me call it terrorism in hopes I will stir some poor sensitive soul’s heart.
Bush is sending some troops to that hater website to take care of them KK-haters, ye hear?
Ahhhhhhhhahahah I can hear her in my head.
“If you see posts being copied and passed to other sites, please notify me.”
….so I can run to Heidi and be a good admin and get a good raise.
October 1, 2007 at 8:23 pm
Princess Dieter
Where, oh where, could Kimmer have funneled those accumulated membership fees in the hundreds of thousands….?
Someplace sunny where diet soda, wigs, white stretch pants, and #2 specials are bountiful, I suppose.
and theTruth–Melt doesnt’ like anybody but Melt and her boytoys, and maybe not even them. So, deal with it. Sniff.
The Princess
October 1, 2007 at 8:26 pm
mac
From Tippy at KK’s
Re:Heads Up 11 Minutes ago
They say they do not understand how the tactics could be considered terrorism. So for them here it is, straight from Webster’s dictonary: “Terrorism. the use of force or threats to intimidate”. This would include the attack launched by Ducky towards KimATC, threatening to post info about her children if she didn’t quit within a time limit set by them. This would also include SingingLass’s real name, address and phone number being posted with reference seeking those who live near her to “get her”. She has recieved major threats by telephone including death threats. They have suggested that if she has children they are in danger. This IS terrorism and this MUST be stopped.
Report terrorism to your local authorities. Print the threats and date. And contact us.
Please note, although no boardcode and smiley buttons are shown, they are still useable
—————————
Anyone with half a brain cell working can look back and see clearly that we never threatened to post about KimATC’s children. Her profile on Kimkins included her children’s names and when that was removed from KimATC’s profile on Kimkins Meet Your Team page, their names were promptly removed here too (and stated as such). All information posted about SingingLass is from public records and her own posts online. No threats, real or imagined, were made to “get her” in our post. Tippytoes keep digging that hole you’ve got going there!
October 1, 2007 at 8:29 pm
mac
Dottie,
It show Kimmer was on today!
October 1, 2007 at 8:41 pm
Kimkins Dangers
Making false accusations that someone is a terrorist is illegal, ftw.
October 1, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Concerned about kimkins
So ducky does this mean Tippy is walking straight into a defamation case from ya’ll now. I’m saying you should sue her too. She’s fully moronic! God Tippy keep typing please, I’m loving how ignorant you continue to be!!!!
October 1, 2007 at 9:19 pm
Kan
I think TT has made it clear that she should be the next target. And before I get called a TERRORIST, I mean she should be held liable for knowingly getting involved in a fraud and then bending over backwards to cover it up.
And you just know TT is loving this btw. She just wants to be in the spotlight. She is obviously an attention-who…..I mean attention-hound.
October 1, 2007 at 9:51 pm
CR
The paranoia must REALLY be setting in…they are imagining terrorists now LMAO!
Maybe Tippy hasnt heard of public record? As I said before, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
in Heidi’s words….”Tippy, get a diet buddy, and no stress eating!” LOL.
October 1, 2007 at 10:29 pm
antikimkins
Quote:
“We kzuw wko u r axd tke eivl u r diong. Us dcuks woll sotp at ntohnig utikl Kimkins hws foleln! We arre innakttnig a waar of teriror!!
Qacuk Qacuk.”<<<<<<<<<<<<
I read this at work today and just started giggling SO hard!!!
What a hoot it would be if we came up with our own little duck language that Heidi and her crew couldn’t understand, then we could post in all the blogs using it!!! ROFLMAO!!!
October 2, 2007 at 6:46 am
ghoov
In the interest of public service I shal post a translation for the rednecks out there:
“Re:Heads Up ah jest hafta say it is mighty bad out thar. This hyar has turned out t’be a mighty ackive hate group. ah see no difference in this hyar hate as enny other hate, be it fo’ blacks, hispanics, aginst abo’shun o’ whutevah. This hyar hate group is snowballin’ into a larger group all of th’ time. Thier intimidashun an’ scare tackis is not only unreasonable but quite illegal, ah reckon. Eff’n yo’ haf been thrett uped o’ intimidated by this hyar group please notify yer local autho’ities an’ us. These is acks of terro’ism, dawgone it. Eff’n yo’ see posts bein’ copied an’ passed t’other sites, please notify me.”
October 2, 2007 at 8:31 am
Mimi
antikimkins said, “…language that Heidi and her crew couldn’t understand…”
That language already exists, and is in widespread use across the blogs of Duckdom. That language is Truth. Heidi and her crew cannot understand this language. They’ll never crack the code.
Yesterday, theTRUTH treated us to more inside private communications between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and SingingLass; private messages from a system that only the two currently have access to because the PM system was closed to all others in an attempt to ferret out who is leaking information.
Interestingly, SingingLass seems worried that her information might have been compromised if she’d included it to Kimmer in their communications. In the PM exchange released yesterday,
SingingLass wrote:
They were like three days ago. Heck, I just last night noticed the yellow star and enable admin mode and went “ohhhh”, I had not even initially realized stuff was being read, like by scoble etc…..I am glad I did not give my full work info out, I had almost sent you a direct link.
Here’s the scoop about SingingLass,
Delaney Lynn Deaver
XXXX NW 20th Street
Corvallis, OR 97330
(541) 752-1420
EDITED to remove rhetorical suggestion to avoid any further misunderstanding of intentions; original saved though no longer visible.
Her page at the EBSQ “self represented artists” website.
And her Mormon Dating page.
We laughed, quite heartily too, as we read the latest installment from theTRUTH of the private communications between SingingLass and Kimmer (Heidi Diaz); a discussion which took place while only two people have access to the Private Message system in Kimkins.
Kimmer wrote:
Nobody has access to the PMs except you & me. Now, if an admin is posting stuff I can’t figure out who that would be? Gary? No, Tarvosk? No. Tippy, Carolyn? No. Who else?
SingingLass wrote:
Then someone has hacked. The pms that are up, are the exchanges between you and i talking about people we were considering banning…..mommas3, honeybee, reesie….and there is bragging that they have more. All of this coming from whoever “thetruth” is….same person who posted our private staff board.
I swear and promise I have not leaked anything. I do think when we switch to the private board, we should use it instead of pms here though, something is going on.
Kimmer wrote:
Yeah, but those are old PMs when admins had access to “admin mode”. No one has that ability now except you & me and I’m not worried about you.
I still like the idea of non-Kimkins for communicating.
SingingLass wrote:
They were like three days ago. Heck, I just last night noticed the yellow star and enable admin mode and went “ohhhh”, I had not even initially realized stuff was being read, like by scoble etc…..I am glad I did not give my full work info out, I had almost sent you a direct link.
There may be some kind of hacking going on too, think we should not rule that out.
Kimmer wrote:
I agree with hacking. Let’s keep our info at the new MB
*****
And with that we learn that SingingLass is the top gun, most trusted, to Kimmer; not Tippytoes; SingingLass has access to the Private Message system, Tippytoes does not.
See the complete post for theTRUTH’s additional commentary!
Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) continues to enlighten Kimkins members about her theory on Ducky, theTRUTH and why Low Carb Friends is unAmerican too!
SUBJECT: Re:Question for Tippy
Tippytoes wrote:
Well, Netrition does allow it’s BB to be used to help destroy our home here. They allow members to speak freely and very unkindly, make fun of and threaten people who follow Kimkins. They even allow this hostility towards their own members who follow Kimkins. They are aware their chat admins are Ducky and The Truth and they are aware of the slander being written and promoted. They have made no efforts to discourage this behavior and in fact appear to be in favor of promoting it. They allow their members to make fun of overweight people yet they call themselves a diet support site. They still keep all Kimkins threads available for use. The “we can do what we want and you better not question it” is unreasonable and unAmerican at best. If you want to do business with this company you certainly may and you have every right to do so. But I want the truth known so others can make their own choices too.
*****
It’s clear Tippytoes has now entered into the realm of what can only be considered libel against Low Carb Friends and their admins; in addition she’s now fully within the boundaries of a lawsuit should Low Carb Friends or those admins she’s accusing decide to take the next step.
Oh, and Tippytoes, slander isn’t written, it’s verbal.
Yesterday theTRUTH posted about a Kimkins member, Hogsfan, who went on a posting spree in an attempt to warn other members about the dangers of Kimkins.
Last night, another member posted a longer, but similar warning to other members, again posted fully at theTRUTH. Go take a look.
Christin has a message for SingingLass and TippyToes.
I have debated about publishing the following, but after reading conversations released today by The Truth In Hiding concerning bonuses, I am going to share publicly the incentives Kimmer offered me as Public Relations Director for Kimkins.
In my previous blog, Ethics vs Economics, I eluded to having to make a financial decision to walk away from Kimkins. Believe me; I struggled with what to do. I risked losing a lot.
The following conversation was in reference to obtaining new magazine articles and contacts:
Aug 20, 2007
Heidi: if you land us a magazine story (even if not the cover)
me:
Heidi: you’ll get a company car
me: wha?? LOL
9:59 PM Heidi:
me: you’re pulling my leg…
Heidi: not at all
me:great incentive!
10:00 PM Heidi: and a raise
I submitted my story and articles to multiple magazines; however, I had not received a contact back from any at that point.
This next conversation is in reference to contacts with the reporters who scout stories for Harpo Studios (Oprah Winfrey):
Aug 22, 2007
Heidi: i’m telling you now, that if you get “us” on oprah $100,000 to you. promise.
11:12 AM me: wow… that’s a very generous offer…. I’m working on it!!!The next conversation concerned Heidi’s offer to me as PR director and head moderator. For reference, the “dead” comment refers to her being without access to the Kimkins forums for a time.
Aug 25, 2007:
Heidi: 1) since i’m “dead” could i ask you to ask the others about being admins?
me: sure5:56 PM Heidi: what would you think of being head admin? new salary $1500/mo
me: oh wow…
There are more conversations, but my goal here is to reach the remaining admins.
Tippy and Singling Lass, you are being used.
