This Quacks Us Up!

1 10 2007

SingingLass is a bit miffed. She obviously has no clue about public records and reporting their contents online.

SingingLass wrote:

Re:Heads Up
If your privacy has been violated in the form of your posts, or even your private messages being posted over on ” the other site”…..you can email REMOVED. This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it and complain. They actually have in their terms of service that the privacy of third parties cannot be violated…..and yet they are posting things without permission from a private site. They also are instigating hate, and some other tactics that happened against myself this last weekend that I will post more on later. I am sure they are going to have more fun posting this post, tippy’s and others, because they do not have anything else to feed their mob….and actually are getting twisted enjoyment and entertainment value at intimidating, and terrorizing others. A line has been crossed in this situation.

*****

We reply, information from public records posted is not a violation of privacy.

Those concerned about privacy should not be listed in the phone book, posting online looking for dates, or disclosing their personal information themself in online posts.

ALL information posted here is obtained completely in open records and posts available online and/or from public records.





You Can’t Hide

29 09 2007

Yesterday, theTRUTH treated us to more inside private communications between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and SingingLass; private messages from a system that only the two currently have access to because the PM system was closed to all others in an attempt to ferret out who is leaking information.

Interestingly, SingingLass seems worried that her information might have been compromised if she’d included it to Kimmer in their communications. In the PM exchange released yesterday,

SingingLass wrote:
They were like three days ago. Heck, I just last night noticed the yellow star and enable admin mode and went “ohhhh”, I had not even initially realized stuff was being read, like by scoble etc…..I am glad I did not give my full work info out, I had almost sent you a direct link.

Here’s the scoop about SingingLass,

Delaney Lynn Deaver
XXXX NW 20th Street
Corvallis, OR 97330
(541) 752-1420

EDITED to remove rhetorical suggestion to avoid any further misunderstanding of intentions; original saved though no longer visible.

Her page at the EBSQ “self represented artists” website.

Her blog as of November 2006.

Her HPANA Harry Potter page.

And her Mormon Dating page.





Is SingingLass a Double Agent?

29 09 2007

We laughed, quite heartily too, as we read the latest installment from theTRUTH of the private communications between SingingLass and Kimmer (Heidi Diaz); a discussion which took place while only two people have access to the Private Message system in Kimkins.

Kimmer wrote:
Nobody has access to the PMs except you & me. Now, if an admin is posting stuff I can’t figure out who that would be? Gary? No, Tarvosk? No. Tippy, Carolyn? No. Who else?

SingingLass wrote:
Then someone has hacked. The pms that are up, are the exchanges between you and i talking about people we were considering banning…..mommas3, honeybee, reesie….and there is bragging that they have more. All of this coming from whoever “thetruth” is….same person who posted our private staff board.

I swear and promise I have not leaked anything. I do think when we switch to the private board, we should use it instead of pms here though, something is going on.

Kimmer wrote:
Yeah, but those are old PMs when admins had access to “admin mode”. No one has that ability now except you & me and I’m not worried about you.
I still like the idea of non-Kimkins for communicating.

SingingLass wrote:
They were like three days ago. Heck, I just last night noticed the yellow star and enable admin mode and went “ohhhh”, I had not even initially realized stuff was being read, like by scoble etc…..I am glad I did not give my full work info out, I had almost sent you a direct link.
There may be some kind of hacking going on too, think we should not rule that out.

Kimmer wrote:
I agree with hacking. Let’s keep our info at the new MB

*****

And with that we learn that SingingLass is the top gun, most trusted, to Kimmer; not Tippytoes; SingingLass has access to the Private Message system, Tippytoes does not.

See the complete post for theTRUTH’s additional commentary!





The Psychic Predicts…

27 09 2007

It’s starting off a banner day in the speculation department as to whom Ducky is.

First Tippytoes is sure we’re admins and members from Low Carb Friends. Now, theTRUTH posted private messages between SingingLass and Kimmer, with SingingLass offering her insights about who we are.

Oh, it doesn’t get any better than this!

SingingLass wrote:

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/

Thats the fun stuff. I keep the kimkins site open in my IE browser, and when I go to any of those sites or LCF, I do so seperately through aol, fav places etc…so that they cannot see a browsing trail. I use a statistical traffic counter thingy on my listings myself. Someone must have linked some peeps from the chat room yesterday though, or at least so ducky claimed. I had actually wondered if you had peeked at it last night because someone announomously posted ” all of a dozen of you” on that. I have posted a couple times on the boards under different names just wanting to try to point out holes, its pretty pointless though, they don’t want to hear anything that bursts their obsession bubble. Ducky is definately grasping for straws though…most likely Catherine’s husband, prolly wanted to set up a couple different slam sites to try to broaden the appearance of the scope and people against you.

I also am not surprised no one has contacted you, its why I have laughed at them calling everyone, their silly petitions. Firstly, those kind of investigations tend to start with an undercover preliminary peeksie. Meaning they would have some underling at first poke their head in here to see if there is any kind of story or truth, no one wants to make a foll of themselves by running with something that is not solid…..and what they will find is not what is being spread around. People get what they pay for, no advice being given for people to eat nothing but grass…..and no where in the purchasing agreement does it say that people are entitled to know your bra size or choice of toilet paper. In order to have a real case, there would have to be huge lackings in what was promised, people paying and getting nothing and the like….and also there would have to be multiple medically documented cases of people being hurt or worse, and even then only if they followed the diet correctly and it happened. Also, any self-thinking investigator who goes and looks at that LCF thread and the ducky board will be able to see it is a foaming irrational mob behind this.

I had someone saying she was eating 10-15 g of fat a day in the chat room and not losing weight. I of course told her to up that, and she was like “oooh”……there also was someone who had been silently sitting in the chat room for a long time last night…bracken666 i think it was, who thought they have had an account since june, had no posts listed in their profile. I decided to address them and say hello, and bam, they signed out. Others said he/she had been in there for hours without saying anything, so just seemed odd they ran when addressed…obviously was watching. Just little things and people like that to keep an eye out, sad we have to, but needed right now I guess.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) replied:

Thanks, Del, you’re better than the FBI.

Everything you outlined for an investigation is exactly right — but I wasn’t going to bore you with the details, LOL! I’m glad you understand and you see yourself that there’s nothing hokey going on: diet, food list, support groups and nobody being told to drink Drano or gulp laxatives.

I did get an email from the Woman’s World editor. Wanted to know if we were sending mailings to members encouraging laxative abuse. Had to set her straight on what’s happening. Ducky is running out of resources — and every morning we’re still here darn it!

BTW, this probably sounds like a bribe (hey, you can blog about it!) but I appreciate you looking out for Kimkins. I’ll remember that. I believe a gift between friends is non-taxable, yes? You’ll have something to look forward to at Christmas. (theTRUTH emphasis added)

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September 27, 2007 at 6:18 pm

Kim

How paranoid are they? Someone is “lurking” and then leaves when addressed? How does the psychic not know the “lurker” wasn’t someone watching to gather info for their investigation?

September 27, 2007 at 6:25 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 6:28 pm

Dottie

“Firstly, those kind of investigations tend to start with an undercover preliminary peeksie.”

You know, there really IS a reson why it’s called “undercover”. lol…

Conspiracy occurs when there is the specific intent that a crime be performed; and there is an agreement with another person to engage in or cause that crime to be performed, and one of the conspirators commits an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy. At state and local levels, there are various degrees of conspiracy, ranging from misdemeanors to felonies, depending upon the crime that is committed. Under U.S. federal law, conspiracy is a felony.

September 27, 2007 at 6:34 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Or a person who is too shy to join or talk about their weight problem but wants to get info. What the hell?

September 27, 2007 at 6:45 pm

losingjusme

oohhhh … what’s Hidy going to send SL? A matching set of her ’striped’ PJ’s from jail?

September 27, 2007 at 6:51 pm

Princess Dieter

She’s a psychic. Why doesn’t she already know who Ducky is and who the lurker was and what Heidi’s bra size is. (50FF?) Ahem.

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 7:05 pm

trudy

They’re wrong.

Ducky = RightNow = PJ

September 27, 2007 at 7:10 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Because much like a her claim of being a diet expert, she is NOT a psychic. Remember when Ms. Cleo got arrested for being a fraud, uh…a psychic would have seen that comin’. Plus, seeing her pics, she is also not at her goal, at all. So, um…yeah Heidi, please let the blind lead the blind. I know I’ve always wanted to go to Michael Jackson for Parenting tips. Shit!

September 27, 2007 at 7:46 pm

sheridan

“Firstly, those kind of investigations tend to start with an undercover preliminary peeksie. Meaning they would have some underling at first poke their head in here to see if there is any kind of story”

What makes you think one or more of your new members *aren’t* working undercover for an agency? :-)

September 27, 2007 at 7:47 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 10:16 pm

Princess Dieter

Excuse me, but how is a psychic worth $600 bucks an hour ($10 dollars A MINUTE). Teachers, nurses, plumbers, nutritionists, construction workers, dentists, etc –ie, real jobs—do not make this. Heck, my roofer didn’t make that and roofers are in big demand post hurricanes down here in Florida. Not even doctors make that, and maybe not lawyers (I haven’t hired any, so dunno).

But Singing”I’m just here to help people”Lass thinks it is right and just and fair to charge SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS AN HOUR for readings. Yeah, she’s in it for the empathic love…

http://www.kasamba.com/psychicmagicsong/

No wonder she and Heidi get along so well. Online money-grubbers banding together….

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 10:35 pm

CR

I think they are all chuggin off the same jug LMAO.

September 27, 2007 at 10:56 pm

antikimkins

Interesting that SingingLass claims to have two degrees but her ass can’t spell!!!! Where did she get those degrees????? AsSeenOnTV.com????

Since we know that WW editor has contacted Kimmer with her concern — I say we all contact that editor AGAIN.

September 28, 2007 at 12:15 am

scoble

Hmmmm…opera singer, psychis, lawyer and NOW FBI/CIA/Police investigator!!! Is there no end to the list of qualifications this girl has???? Amazing!!! And she has never heard of spell check??? Hmmmm?

September 28, 2007 at 12:16 am

scoble

I meant psychic…..I HAVE heard of spell check! LOL

September 28, 2007 at 5:00 am

Mimi

Actually, we don’t “know” that the WW editor has contacted Kimmer. All we know is, Kimmer says the WW editor contacted Kimmer.

September 28, 2007 at 7:08 am

Princess Dieter

I did write the editor of WW with links to here and Christin and TRUTH and etc. I was a mite ticked, too, and forgot to proofread. Left in a couple of typos. I hope they don’t think I’m Tippy or SingingLass. Heh.

So, I guess this won’t be over until the Psychic…stops singing?

The Princess





A Psychic, A Hillbilly and…

27 09 2007

A Witch!

Admin tarvosK explains his user name on Kimkins:

Well let’s see the easist way to explain this is to say that my username is a combination of a name I use basically everywhere and the first letter of my fiance’s name (online/lifestyle). As for my name tarvos is an ancient Gaelic (or possibly Celtic) god. I don’t recall the specifics of him, but the name was suggested to me by a friend several years ago. Since my fiance and I are both practicing Wiccan’s these names are also our magical names. As for the lifestyle reference, some will understand more if I print it correctly tarvos{K}.Be well and safe all

*****

We had a bit of fun editing the lettercase in some words.

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September 27, 2007 at 3:10 am

Gweebles

Tarvos is not going to be happy when the 3 fold law comes into action. Any good Wiccan knows that if you do harm, it comes back 3fold. Just imaging helping and supporting a scam, wow that is a lot of Karma to fix.

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Maybe SingingAss told him, she’s psychic ya know, predicted it’s not true and then the hillbilly swore it wasn’t so?

September 27, 2007 at 3:19 am

theTRUTH

And I had which one was the witch all wrong…

September 27, 2007 at 3:32 am

Mimi

Check out the wikipedia listing for tarvos. The god of bull. Perfect :)

September 27, 2007 at 3:34 am

Mimi

Good point Gweebles. PS … tarvos is spelled with a lowercase t. Denoting his subjugation to Heidi and his inferiority to all women.

September 27, 2007 at 3:35 am

Kimkins Dangers

tarvos[K} could just as easily mean tarvos, {K}immer’s slave boy. ~grin~ He seems so fond of doing her dirty work. We wonder if he does her dishes and windows too, or perhaps cleans up the dog poo around her apartment.

September 27, 2007 at 3:36 am

Quackamole

For those interested in doing all this stuff “legally”, may I suggest this link:-

http://kimkinscircus.blogspot.com/2007/09/at-least-im-legal-now.html

Thank you,

Q

September 27, 2007 at 3:37 am

Princess Dieter

Oh, I like that threefold law thing. I hope in Heidi’s case, there’ a cosmic burp and it’s the twenty-one fold law. The Big Wham.

:)

He needs to watch Buffy the Vampire Slayer and try to be more like Good Willow (not Dark Willow). She was a cool witch who just wanted everyone to be happy and get along. Take a clue, Tarvos(k)

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 3:43 am

Quackamole

Wikipedia states that “Tarvos means ‘bull’ (Delmarre 2003 pp.291-292)”.

I prefer to add no further comment.

Q.

September 27, 2007 at 4:00 am

ghoov

TarvosK has a blog of sorts at:

http://www.realmoftarvos.org/thoughts/?cat=4

Of course I’m sure that others have googled this person…

September 27, 2007 at 4:11 am

Kate

He’s not a very knowledgeable Wiccan either, you just don’t take a magical name and not research it. What if he picked a total a$$? lol Maybe that explains a lot. Hmmm Heidi deserves someone like him on her staff - doesn’t look too hard at anything.

September 27, 2007 at 7:22 am

reesie

lions and tigers and bears OH my,,, well looks like they’re all ready for halloween!!! ;)

September 27, 2007 at 11:31 am

MrsA

He’s giving Wiccans a bad rap, IMO.

September 27, 2007 at 11:38 am

PrincessDucky

ROFLMAO

September 27, 2007 at 1:04 pm

Ban Kimmer

Ducky this whole time you have been objective, I’m upset that you would call Tippy a hillbilly….wait no I’m not, THAT WAS AWESOME!!!!

Best blog ever!!!!!!!!

Holy shit, this was so great to wake up to.

Now what’s tippy gonna do about her hubby teefers if Heidi gets shut down?

September 27, 2007 at 2:35 pm

La Mesa

I thought is was “a psychic, a hillbilly, and KIMMERS BITCH” God I love calling him that.

September 27, 2007 at 2:42 pm

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Ducky Frustrated? Never!

26 09 2007

Just a few minutes ago, theTRUTH gave us more of the private message exchange between psychic SingingLass and Kimmer.

SingingLass sure is loquacious and writes too many run-on sentences. That and it appears she has a thing for questionable online sources of income, working as an online psychic at Kasamba; a company with a history of complaints with the BBB.

We’ve edited only for readability.

SingingLass wrote:

When I worked independently through my own site (I gave that up since I do so much better and get great exposure through kasamba)….I used paypal for billing as well, so know full well the tricks some people try to play with it. Boy did I learn “no service until e-check has cleared first”, otherwise they could just go in and cancel it while it was still in pending.

When I saw that post detailing how to file claims…..I had an “errrr” moment. I didn’t think he would get many to do it though since the core group is not that big, and even smaller still those who were actual members. if I were you though, I would contact Paypal and link to what Ducky is doing, because he is trying to encourage people even 90 days out, or who have not even made payments to CALL them and make fraud complaints and the like….and I do know Paypal can be a bit touchy.

One time though, I had a client who had made several payments to me in a short period of time. Months later, he reported to his credit card company that they were accidental duplicate charges…which would not have even been possible, and the payments were spaced out as well.
They none the less yanked the funds to cover the charge-back ( it was of course my rent money at that time)…..and the person made the mistake of contacting me asking for a reading again shortly there after, and even admitted to what he had done. So I sent in both the log of him admitting to manipulating AND screen captures of the conversation actively up on my computer so they could know I did not just make it up. Paypal stepped to the plate and restored the funds even though they themselves were still battling it with the credit card company.

Thus why you may want to contact them with that info of a site directly leading people to do it before things can get much farther. Just a thought.

I think a little quiet on the boards is good for that reason as well, people had their says…of support, and let their anger out, now need to get back to something of normalacy as best as can be done. I did have someone contact me a few days ago with a support comment, but that it was upsetting for them to see all the threads on the issues, so I had to advise her to just avoid the cafe for a little while since that at the time was where those discussions were taking place.

Good call at putting them in a completely seperate folder, I am sure others felt the same. Even if new memberships slow down at all from all of this, given some time, and with people still loosing, the word will get out and build again.

I do go over and keep tabs on the ducky and slam board stuff, but its just more to be prepared to deal with whatever they are trying to pull or send over here.

The LCF, I skim, most of it is talking in circles over the same garbage, but I have to say they have reached a complete all time low with their attempts to dig up any information on your sons and anyone who could possibly be affiliated with you or them….talk about pointing towards obsession, stalking, craziness, and invasion of privacy.

Yeash, they really are giving law suit fodder, especially with LCF allowing for it to continue.

Read Kimmer’s reply here.

******

And now, for your pleasure (and action!) we’d like to repeat the post about contacting PayPal.

The money is sitting in PayPal.

File a complaint and dispute now.

Only when the account is flagged because of unusual level of dissatisfied customers will the account be frozen.

Heidi will not be able to take the money if the PayPal account is frozen for investigation.

PayPal doesn’t play games.

They shut you down.

They shut off your funds.

You sit.

You wait.

But you can’t have any of your money until the investigation is over.

Go now!

Log into your PayPal account and click on “Resolution Center”. From there, click on “Report a Problem” and enter in all of the information from your transaction.

PayPal

If you paid more than 45 days ago, call 1-402-935-2050 or email by going to the bottom of the page, click About Us, click Contact Us, click Customer Support Inquires, click through online form to complete!

Go.

Do it.

Now!





SingingLass Kissing Ass Again!

26 09 2007

Yes, there is still more to report today. Hard to believe, isn’t it?

Over at theTRUTH, we learn of more admin private messages that discuss the bannings, paypal refund requests and more.

SingingLass wrote:

Hi, looks like scoble banned her ownself in her departure….her public reason for leaving was a bit snarky, so I changed it to ” Voluntary” to simplify it….thought I would let you know on the chance you would like it to read tos violation instead.

I keep checking in, things have been pretty quiet on the boards the last 24 hours it seems….but that could be a good thing too.

Oh, you most likely already know, but just in case you do not …heads up. Ducky is sending people instructions now on attacking through Paypal.

Kimmer wrote:

You are really on your toes! Paypal automatically denies any claim more than 12 weeks old. We saw 12 auto-declines and couldnt’ figure out why. Now I know!

Hopefully things will quiet down at least for the members. Some get really upset by the hoopla.
Thanks for being here!

Read the full post, including theTRUTHS commentary here.

*****

It clear the person scrambling around online isn’t Kimmer (Heidi Diaz), it’s SingingLass.

We know Kimmer lacks any moral compass from all we’ve read, seen and heard.

But

We wonder, how morally bankrupt one must be to not only be one of Kimmer’s minions, up day and night running around online trying to find something to report back with, but never question what you’re out here reading day in day out?

And, by the way, how can SingingLass not understand her weight loss isn’t going anywhere lately because she’s sitting on her ass all day long doing nothing but kissing Kimmer’s ass?





Three Admins Step Up With Dangerous Advice

26 09 2007

What do you get when you combine one confused newbie and three Kimkins admins?

Dangerous advice that may be fatal.

New Kimkins Member
Subject: Frustrated I need help!!

Okie dokie…
well, I know this is my fault, but my weight is going wacky this week. I was 174 on monday and have gone up and down every day between there and 178?!? is this normal? I have usually only been weighing once a week, because when I first started I was going a little crazy with the scale.
Anyhow, I have been very naughty (mostly because I’m caught up in other things) and I’ve not been entering my food into fitday. Shame on me, I know. I HAVE to do this. I feel like it keeps me more honest. (But I dont’ cheat, just have a tendency to overdo with the “extras” like cheese & jello)

ALSO- I’ve been having massive muscle cramps in my legs? I drink at least 2literes of water a day… and I take vitamins, so I dunno what’s up? Do other people get this? My dis-approving family tells me it’s my “diet”

Last- I have been doing well on kimkins. Better than anything my whole life!! But I am constantly being berated by family members and friends that say the way I’m eating is not healthy and it’s too drastic and I’m just going to “get fat again” They even go to the lengths of cutting out magazine articles and printing out things to “prove” to me that what I’m doing is wrong and unhealthy. This is really starting to drag me down and I’m wondering if in fact that has something to do with my wacko weight?

Thanks so much!!

SingingLass (admin and self-professed psychic) replies:

Lots of things can cause little scale hops anywhere in a five pound range or so….water retention, undigested/ expelled food, water intake, TOM…ya name it. I try not to worry about it when I see it, because it always corrects itself out in a day or two, especially if it is water retention or TOM.

You may want to try taking an additional potassium supplement for the leg cramps….when someone non-low carb dieting gets them, it often is prescribed to eat bannas for the potassium. Of course, if it continues to happen, consult your doctor.

I think we all have gone through the ropes of those who are not fully educated on low carb eating etc…and remind yourself that you have done much more research on this then any of them have, and thus can better decide what is healthy for you and what is not. Sometimes other people who do not have the courage, strength, whatever…to dedicate themselves to this kind of WOE and change for their ownselves, try to make themselves feel better by pulling those back/ putting down others who are making that effort. I know that sounds bad, but it is something many people have reported unfortunate incidents of. Hold your chin up sweetie, only you can decide what is best for you.

Next at bat, TippyToes (admin) replies:

In general dieting shifts our water balances and can cause the leg cramping. I take a calcium/magnesium supplement and it does the trick.

Sorry you are yo-yoing for the moment. I must say the one food that causes this for me is the beloved cheese. Try a few days without it and see if it cures the problem.

And then it’s Kimmer’s turn (admin and Heidi Diaz) to reply too, dragging a former admin into it:

KimATC recommends calcium & magnesium supplements for leg cramps. You can read more in the Work Out Zone forum.

Of course the only person who can advise you medically is your doctor — and many people still think you “need” carbs — so why not fax your doctor a copy of the Kimkins diet and ask what he thinks? Many Kimkins members have gotten the “thumbs up” from their docs and are on their way to staving off (or controlling) diabetes.

*****

Note, none of the above admins are medical professionals or qualified to provide nutrition or supplement advice.

No warning was provided to this new member that potassium supplementation itself can be fatal if not done properly.

No one warned her that her leg cramps may be a warning sign of electrlyte imbalance, a potentially fatal condition if not resolved.





Ban Button Happy SingingLass

24 09 2007

Over at theTRUTH we are provided more insights on the banning of paid members at the Kimkins forums,
SingingLass wrote:

Reesie has not posted anything negative directly on this site….BUT, she is over at LCF, and today she was giving people the stats of when Kimmer was last on, posted, and all that….so, is doing “mole” activities.

I have not banned her as of yet, thought I would run it by the two of you first.

******

That particular private message speaks of the continued surveillance of paid members of Kimkins when they post on forums outside the Kimkins forums. Yes, they’re watching you if you’re a member of Kimkins and if they’ve figured out who you are elsewhere!

Also, theTRUTH’s post includes an exchange between the admin Lasttime4me and Kimmer. You can read that here

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September 24, 2007 at 4:56 pm

ban kimmer

I just love the fact that this guy is one of the authorities on the site but he doesn’t know what’s on the diet? That’s flipping hilarious! Wat to go. Also do they not realize that “computer problems/will be fixed in a week” is Heidi speak for, I can’t long on cuz I am packing so STOP pming me. Wow.

September 24, 2007 at 5:14 pm

Me

No, she wants emails instead of PM’s so that they don’t keep getting posted.

Paranoid some Hidey?

September 24, 2007 at 8:19 pm

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September 24, 2007 at 10:24 pm

WOW

who ithe hell would want to pay for a site where they go around the internet and try to find you on other sites to spy on you???….Paranoid much..Geeezus!





SingingLass the Sycophant

21 09 2007

If wanna_be_thin wonders why she was banned so quickly at Kimkins, here you go:

SingingLass wrote:

Just a wierd post by this one in the cafe titles ” First Ammendment” and a one-liner statement I will post below. Maybe didn’t say much, but the intent is pretty obvious.

first ammendment 2 Minutes ago

Allegations that diet is unsafe and there is a class action lawsuit.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) wrote:

Ban her and I’ll kick her off.

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Read more at theTRUTH.

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For your learning pleasure,

Sycophant
In modern English, the term has come to mean one who seeks to please people in positions of authority or influence in order to gain power themselves, usually at the cost of pride, principles, and peer respect.





Do Duckies Eat Moles For Breakfast?

21 09 2007

No!

We chew them up and spit them out, they’re so foul!

Earlier today we posted private PM communications with admin SingingLass and Kimmer. These were provided by theTRUTH.

Within one PM written by Kimmer we find this curious bit,

We may be bringing on an extra pro-Kimkins mole. They will do what you do, but hopefully during times you aren’t here. Tippy Toes thinks it will be helpful to keep tabs during this phase. Her job will be short term.

Any guesses whom it may be?

We’ll let you tell us who you think it is and why you think they’re the mole in the comments.

In the morning we’ll reveal who the dirty rat, ahem mole, is!

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September 21, 2007 at 1:18 am

CMe

We have to wait until morning?! I think you’re more evil than HideyKims. I’ll bet she’d like that name since it sounds like Heineken. Was that wrong of me to say?

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Okay, that comment takes the gooey butter cake award for funniest we’ve gotten here!

September 21, 2007 at 1:37 am

Watcher

I’m not even gonna guess. If I’m wrong, I’ve maligned the wrong person. If I’m right, I should be ashamed of myself for being so paranoid.;-)

September 21, 2007 at 1:50 am

ally

Hmmm… I think it’s someone who left in “disgust” but is back – the previous departure from Kimkins part of a bigger plan to come back as a mole…

September 21, 2007 at 2:28 am

theTRUTH

Now all the people named here that are not the mole are going to be scarred for life or something. theTRUTH has no idea who it is so I’m not playing. I do hope you find ‘em tho.

September 21, 2007 at 3:31 am

Stiff

UGH! Why are people so blind to her tactics? It’s really just pissing me off. I feel like this is consuming me, but I can’t get enough because I just want it all to end so people stop being brainwashed! She’s telling people, as usual, that these lowcarb/”miracle” products are basically off limits, and here’s another example of scamming additional people in the forums (Ask Kimmer Forum is this example)!

catfish: “I hope this the right place for this question. I was just wondering, my wife just started this WOE saturday. Does she have to pay also to be a part of the forums(her own logon) ? Probably a dumb question.”

Kimmer: “Catfish, not a dumb question. Yes, she need to join separately to have her own account and log in. We have several husband/wife teams!”

UGH. I joined and shared the cost with two friends…though neither paid me, and then I had the Kimkins drama which double charged me, etc. But then everyone started telling me I’d get in trouble and my friends had to join separate, etc. Since I believed in Kimmer and liked her, I didn’t want to “cheat” her.

Sorry, this is random. I just am so sick of people being taken advantage of. I’m such a softie. :(

September 21, 2007 at 3:44 am

Simone

If Kimmer knows about this site, then she must know you have posted her admin conversations. I don’t get why she would talk about getting a new mole knowing you can get that conversation.
Unless, she just wants anti-kimmers to start turning on eachother. She’s praying it blows up and all goes away.

September 21, 2007 at 6:38 am

WhoRU

Isn’t it morning already?

September 21, 2007 at 8:36 am

Mir

Well, we know who one of the snitches is. I await the revelation of the mole.

And this should be appropriate for the event:

http://ngfl.northumberland.gov.uk/ict/AAA/documents/wild/mole.gif

M.

September 21, 2007 at 11:14 am

wow

I wonder why Heidi isn’t playing her OWN mole? Wouldnt it be so easy to create a new persona….afterall she is very experienced at it LOL.

Oh…thats right, she is too busy covering her ass and cleaning up the lies and deceit on her own site LMAO.

September 21, 2007 at 12:15 pm

theTRUTH

Simone, all conversations I posted took place prior to my fist posting. Oh course they stopped talking after that.

September 21, 2007 at 1:48 pm

Molly

et tu SL?

sometimes it is the most loyal who end up being the traitor

September 21, 2007 at 2:09 pm

Simone

Thank you, theTruth. I’m trying my best to keep up with the saga, darn life keeps getting in my way.

September 21, 2007 at 6:22 pm

Watcher

Diversions, diversions. Look here, no, over there. Why are we falling for Heidi’s little game? She can come look for herself at LCF (and probably does so frequently just to check up on her “moles”). Who cares if they visit a free public forum? Why not stick to the task at hand, which is Exposing Kimkins? Now if someone could tap into Heidi’s cell phone frequency and conversations – but THAT is illegal and down at her level. So we just have to wait for developments, hard as that may be.





Getting to Know SingingLass

19 09 2007

SingingLass is yet another staunchly loyal admin at Kimkins. Since it’s apparent she has no plans to leave the sinking ship today, we thought we’d add her profile at this time.

SingingLass’ name is Delaney. She’s frequented many message boards prior to joining Kimkins. In fact, she was a prolific poster at Low Carb Friends until a few months ago. Her last post in that forum was June 26, 2007.

Yesterday she scurried around the internet editing content of posts made back in 2002 when she started posting online and happened to reveal a tragedy in her teen years. We are not making light of this incident, but are including it only to show that she is well aware of what she is currently doing inside Kimkins and that her past posts remain fair game in all this.

The cache of her original posts remains. It may help explain her pathology in all of this with Kimkins. We’ve included it for accuracy, not entertainment and are truly sorry she had to experience such a violation in her youth.

While she’s singing the praises of Kimkins these days, she has had health complications while on the diet.

Well, despite how little I have been eating….not only did I not lose anything the last four days, but it shows me as being a pound up. ::sniffle::

I have been really sluggish today…got up for a couple hours then fell back asleep at noon for almost another four, and STILL feel tired. My legs are also very sore, at first I was what the….then remembered I spent several hours sitting in a folded kneel position yesterday while putting together the photo board. Headachey too. I guess just everything that has been going on and rushing around, lack of sleep ect……would have felt better if I had seen some weight loss though.

In a hair forum online she was scolded by the moderators for her unbelievable advice about hair loss.

But, what we find rather amusing is that in her profile she includes among her occupation(s) ‘Psychic Consultant’, which may explain her rather bizarre rants in private messages and private admin forum posts with Kimmer.

There you have it, some history on the one and only SingingLass who is quick to ban and remains at Kimkins. As we have for the other admins, we’re issuing a reminder that remaining on staff with Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) may be considered aiding and abetting.

Perhaps you should leave now SingingLass?

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For those wondering, yes, we are working on profiles for each of the remaining admins.

Unless of course they jump outta there before we get to post the profile!

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EDITED to remove textual context of sites SingingLass is deleting content from. If one wants to read the cache it is here, but it a tragedy for any teen girl.

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September 19, 2007 at 8:13 pm

Kim

I’m not discounting anything she’s gone through in her past – it sounds horrible. But it seems obvious by her own words that she wants/needs to feel needed and Heidi is undoubtedly giving her what she needs in that category. We all know Heidi could care less about her and is just using her…hopefully she’ll see this and realize that it’s time to leave.

September 19, 2007 at 8:20 pm

Singinglass

1. Posting someone’s tragedy like that, let alone something that occurred to a child… as a form of entertainment is down right low, wrong, if not sick. That has nothing to do with any of this or kimkins. Shame on anyone associated with someone who would stoop to such measures.

2.The post taken out of context about not eating much…was because my grandmother had just passed away and I was GRIEVING, and staying with family where low carb choices were limited. The photo board mentioned was constructed for my grandmother’s memorial.

3. That hair board thing was actually some post someone else made copying what was put up here at kimkins exposed, which was a twisted version of my original post on kimkins that was taken out of context .

While you are at it, how about drag around through the mud that I have two degrees after putting myself through college, and am a formally trained opera singer. I am sure people will find lots of fault there. :)

To anyone who uses my childhood experiences as entertainment, humor, or message board fodder…please think of your own daughters, sisters…mothers, your own experiences, and how you would feel for them to be put on display in such a callous manner. Regardless of what is going on with kimkins, I would hope and think that others out there would agree that is no where appropriate and request it be removed and kept out of this.

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Delaney, you should be fully aware we did not include the cached copy of your words for entertainment. The Kimkins situation is not entertainment, it is fraud and you are aiding and abetting a criminal in her enterprise. That’s a felony. Think about it.

We are sorry for what happened to you as a teen.

September 19, 2007 at 8:36 pm

Singinglass

Additionally….I just wanted to add, that the post being displayed detailing childhood experiences and PTSD was over five years ago during a difficult time. For anyone concerned, I have long since dealt with those issues, and am at present very content with myself and my life….in fact, I am very proud of the things I have accomplished for myself against those kind of odds. I still however think, using that kind of information in this context is wrong and is a violation of anyone who has had experiences of that nature.

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Are you proud of your work at Kimkins?

Are you proud of how you’re treating members who paid good money to be there?

Are you proud you’re aiding and abetting a criminal?

Are you proud you too may be indicted for your role in this situation?

September 19, 2007 at 8:39 pm

too bad kimmer

SingingLass when you join with fraud and help to commit a felony, EVERYTHING about you gets known to the world. That is how things work. If you don’t think that the prosecutor is going to pull this stuff up and use it on you, then you are terribly naive. Please leave the fraud behind so you don’t go to jail too. Make no mistake about it what Heidi has done is a felony.

September 19, 2007 at 8:39 pm

Kim

Uh, SingingLass – first of all, I don’t know if anybody was laughing and secondly, YOU posted it on a public chat room on the internet…any expectation of privacy there was gone long ago.

AND you should be ashamed of yourself, regardless of your past, in backing and continuing to assist a crook like Heidi in what she is doing. Did the “yelling” at a 14 year old girl who obviously had an ED bring out the same response in you? No, you kept defending Heidi, the site and that WOE.

So while you rant about how what was posted has nothing to do with Kimkins, half of what you posted has nothing to do with it either. Your education and training have nothing to do with posting what you do on that site.

I personally was on a post with you when you gave out advice to someone asking about an ulcer and told them to eat the yogurt to coat their stomach. Your degrees aren’t in medicine because any dr. would cringe at that advice.

You need to wake up and realize what’s going on and quit defending a crook…you will go down with her for doing her dirty work and the judge won’t care about your past…just about what you’ve done to further Heidi and her scams. You are her puppet and it’s so sad that you don’t even realize it. Take 2 minutes and step back from the situation, you’ll see it for yourself.

September 19, 2007 at 8:43 pm

Harlow

U guys r ridiculous. Give it up.KImmer rox. And she will be posting new pics and adding a webcam.
So bite it.

September 19, 2007 at 8:47 pm

Concerned about kimkins

“am a formally trained opera singer.”

Guess this gives new music to “It ain’t over till the fat lady sings?”

September 19, 2007 at 8:47 pm

Concerned about kimkins

I meant meaning. Oops

September 19, 2007 at 8:47 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Delaney – I am sorry for your past abuse and I certainly do agree that your childhood traumas should not have been dragged out into a larger arena than you were comfortable in sharing it originally. You should not be re-victimized, and i am upset about that. Shame, Ducky!!!

But, I have to tell you, in all honesty and compassion, that Heidi/Kimmer is playing you, and using you, and making you her victim in this scenario. Believe me, I know those games all too well. She is bringing you close so she can use and then discard you. She is an abuser. You are being re-victimized.

PLEASE, Delaney – you know I have gone to bat for you, and supported you in the past. I am not against you. i am BEGGING you to step back, take another look, and step away. PLEASE do not go down this road another step. It will not end well!

Ask yourself – Why did we all leave, Delaney? We had NOTHING to gain, and plenty to lose, in walking away from our friends, our support, and, for some of us, our income, too. What did we see that you haven’t seen yet?

I’d say give it time, and you’ll see it, too. But, Delaney, you may not have that time. PLEASE listen to that part of you that wonders what you have gotten yourself into, and whispers that something is not right.

You don’t need her. And, in fact, she does not need you. By the time you are out the door, she will have replaced you without another thought. You are merely an interchangeable object, her means to an end.

You are smart, and you’ve already survived a lot. You are better than this. You don’t need this. Walk away.

September 19, 2007 at 8:48 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Harlow you are a tard.

September 19, 2007 at 8:49 pm

shelby

Wow, your tune sure changes when YOU are the one on the defensive. I have seen your posts where you are very nasty to people asking for help.
If you post something on the INTERNET of all places, people read it, it is public domain. It sounds to me that you and Heidi seem to be the ones that are ‘entertained’ talking about members in PMs or on the admin board, and speaking derogatorily about them as well. Not much fun when the shoe is on the other foot is it?

September 19, 2007 at 8:50 pm

Scoble

I did not find this anything like “entertainment”. On the contrary it let’s people see why you are doing what you are doing. I have something like you experienced in my past and I know firsthand how it can affect our thinking, our perception of ourselves and the need we have to feel of value. Which is the ONLY reason I can see the need you seem to have at defending what is going on over their. Your prose make you appear to be an intelligent woman, but yet you are still there defending, aiding and abetting an obvious fraud. And what is worse, you don’t seem to mind it at all. And that is also what is so sad. And shame on you for sticking up for her and helping her with her agenda. In the end, she will take you down with her and she won’t even think twice. What a tragedy that is to add to your life as well.

September 19, 2007 at 8:51 pm

Maggie

SingingLass….Delaney…..I truly am sorry you had that happen to you as a teenager. It does leave me wondering though….the word Ducky used….your pathology now……could it be that you now feel a lot of control by being a kk admin? could it be that you’re somehow using it to feel better about yourself?

Please Delaney, leave Kimkins before you wind up arrested with Heidi!

September 19, 2007 at 8:54 pm

theTRUTH

Delaney,
I too think it goes too far to widen the audience of your past trauma. I feel sorry for you in that regard, but I am glad you have dealt with those issues.

Please listen to Becky. I have more of your PMs, but I won’t need to post them tomorrow if you can see the light. I’m not trying to blackmail you, here. I just don’t want to do it if I don’t have to.

September 19, 2007 at 8:58 pm

too bad kimmer

Delaney – listen to Becky, she’s trying to tell you something important. We can’t say it enough FELONY FELONY FELONY FELONY FELONY FELONY

September 19, 2007 at 8:59 pm

La Mesa

Hey shes an opera singer……Sing for us as heidi’s ship sinks!

September 19, 2007 at 8:59 pm

another curious onlooker

Becky, once again, well said. You truly are a caring and compassionate person. You understand how to get your point across with out insulting, which shows intelligence and maturity.

Concerned about kimkins, you should take a lesson. “tard?” Are you 12? A statement like that only shows ignorance. Of course, we can’t all come across as eloquently as Becky.

September 19, 2007 at 8:59 pm

LCer

I can’t speak for others, but I don’t see how anyone here sees SingingLass’s tragedy as entertainment. What it does do is provide some background as to why she seemingly enjoys the power of being an admin, someone who has control over others and can do to them what she wants.

I think it’s really hard for her to step back and see that she’s not very nice in the Kimkins forums and that she’s treating many, many people badly.

And we all know if you don’t want something public, don’t post it on the internet in a name you’ll be recognized under. Better yet, don’t post it online at all!

SingingLass, as others have begged you, it’s time for you to really look at all of this and realize we are not “haters,” nor are we “jealous,” nor are we trying to foil yours or anyone else’s weight loss. No, we’re trying to bring a criminal to justice and you happen to be in the way!

September 19, 2007 at 9:02 pm

La Mesa

2 degrees and you are still dumb enough to work for heidi???

September 19, 2007 at 9:07 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Sorry curious, I should have said? Moron? Harlow, if serious, just stated that Heidi is going to do a web cam show and really show us all that she’s for real. If you believe that you are mentally bereft. Sorry. I will concede that tard was a bit childish. I will go for dense next time if that suits you.

September 19, 2007 at 9:17 pm

feeling crapped on

I really doubt that anyone is “laughing” at what happened to you or is being “entertained” by it. Paranoid much?

Touting your successes to me is useless. I don’t care what you’ve done in the past. I care about what you are doing now.

September 19, 2007 at 9:25 pm

La Mesa

Naw…I’d go with Tard for both Harlow and Curious at this point!

September 19, 2007 at 9:32 pm

Mir

I, too, can vouch that reading about SingingLass’s past pains made me SYMPATHIZE, not laugh. That, however, doesn’t excuse her facilitating a sociopathic scammer.

I hope, I really hope, SinglingLass leaves Kimkins and moves to another forum with low-carbers who are doing it sanely, safely, well, and without the controlling con-artist behavior of Heidi Diaz.

I can’t believe ANYONE thought that was posted to ridicule. Maybe it wasn’t the best call Ducky made, but I don’t think it was malicious.

I do think Heidi is malicious, and SingingLass’ aiding and abetting makes her part of the “bad guys”. Stop it, SL. Just quit.

Mir

September 19, 2007 at 9:34 pm

JenX

LMFAO @ it ain’t over till the fat lady sings. Truly.

September 19, 2007 at 9:36 pm

OddManOut

If she’s a psychic, she’s not very good is she? She should have seen Kimmertanic sinking a long time ago.

September 19, 2007 at 9:44 pm

kimkinssmith

The tragedies of the past never excuse the trespasses of the now.

Delaney. So many people love you and care about you at LCF and other places. You are important beyond labels and administrative buttons.

Those whispers in your ear are being made with poison lips.

Please come home.

September 19, 2007 at 9:47 pm

another curious onlooker

La Mesa…do you realize how ignorant you sound?

Do you know anyone, personally, who is mentally retarded? Throwing around the term “tard” is rude and offensive. I work with mentally retarded (mild, moderate, & severe) people every day. A mentally retarded person is not at fault for how they were born. Using the term “tard” is as bad as saying “that’s gay.” Or, do you have a problem with homosexuals as well? Who’s next? Blacks? People of Polish decent? Jewish people?

Why is it some people can’t get their point across without being rude?

September 19, 2007 at 9:47 pm

Down with Kimkins!

Okay I missed the post. Can someone point me in the correct direction of:

If one wants to read the cache it is here

Where is here? I think my comp is a lttle outdated!

Sorry to sound so obtuse.

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Doh! Link is now at the text ‘it is here’.

September 19, 2007 at 9:49 pm

Kim

Delaney, Becky speaks very wise words. She is not capable of friendship. She is using you, like she used the rest of us. PLEASE read and re-read, and then read again what Becky posted above.

September 19, 2007 at 9:50 pm

antikimkinslblogspot.com

Nobody’s laughing, its tragic – but hey, you lie down with dogs, etc. etc. Seeiing how nasty StingingLass has been to the poor victims at Kimkins, I have ZERO sympathy for her. I say, everything is fair game. She sure was laughing behind the scenes with that evil criminal Heidi while they made fun of the members and planned to hurt them. But oh, you don’t like it when its YOU on the hot seat!

I say SINK HER right along with Kimmer!! Birds of a feather should drown together!

I’ll save my compassion for those innocent folks being scammed by Heidi and Stinginglass and TipsyToes!

September 19, 2007 at 9:52 pm

Sweetie

SingingLass- I am so sorry for all the bad in your life and I am happy to hear that over the past 5 years you have been able to overcome it. i’m sorry, but I do agree with Ducky on the point of being an admin makes you feel needed. I don’t agree that your story should have been posted here, but YOU did post it for the whole world to see. I was still on the Kimkins boards when you first became an admin and you do take your “position” way to far and serious. I do hope for all the wrong you are doing that you are atleast getting paid. (Not saying getting paid makes it right). I too hung on after all the contraversy (sp) first strted hoping Kimmer would prove all the anti-kimkinners wrong, but she didn’t and want. She doesn’t even try to defend herself.

You where so quick to jump in about how wrong it is to post your life, so plese jump in here and tell us what you think is Kimmers side. Did she lose weight? Does she have foster kids? Is she a fraud? Are you going down with her? Why isn’t she defending herself when she knows there are lawsuites agianst her? And please be as bold as you are on the kimkins site when you are banning people for having questions.

September 19, 2007 at 9:53 pm

antikimkinslblogspot.com

It’s funny to me how you can talk about being a child of God in your confession, but you join in with treating people like crap and scamming them along with a con artist. How do you think God feels about THAT, StingingLass?

September 19, 2007 at 9:54 pm

Sweetie

Oh Down with Kimkins- Click on that statement

“If one wants to read the cache it is here”

It’ll take you to it.

September 19, 2007 at 10:08 pm

Keeping Secrets

Delaney, you know what it feels like to fight hard to tell the truth about something that is happening only to be silenced, right?

Please look hard at your actions. You are inadvertently helping an abuser silence her victims and witnesses about her abuse of their trust. When you grow up in a dysfunctional family it feels natural and safe to keep secrets, but you aren’t helping to make Kimkins.com a safe place. You’re helping the abuser continue to betray and exploit more people.

September 19, 2007 at 10:15 pm

WatchingFromHere

Cached pages get updated and are lost, but the Way Back Machine pages aren’t lost. You can even pick your return date.

http://www.archive.org/index.php

September 19, 2007 at 10:18 pm

Janice

Does SingingLass have Ducky on speed dial or what? How long was the post up before she added her first comment? It couldn’t have been long, the first comment was only seven minutes before she posted something!

And SingingLass, no what happened to you is not at all funny or entertaining, but it does shed some light on your actions and reactions in the Kimkins site.

Do you even regret how you treated that 14-yo now?

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From the point we released the post live until SingingLass commented was 19 minutes. Interesting observation Janice! Definitely speaks volumes about how often they’re visiting here.

September 19, 2007 at 10:25 pm

theTRUTH

From the point we released the post live until SingingLass commented was 19 minutes. Interesting observation Janice! Definitely speaks volumes about how often they’re visiting here.

Or, maybe she is psychic…

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Oh yeah, that’s the ticket!

September 19, 2007 at 10:26 pm

Gaynell

Becky (littlebit) ~ that was a beautiful heart-touching post. If Singing Lass does not step down after reading that, I’m terribly afraid her heart has turned as stone cold as Kimmer’s.

Saying a prayer tonight for Delaney.

September 19, 2007 at 11:05 pm

Me

I am going to sound like a total bitch, but I don’t care.

I was molested by my real father from about 3-9. I was raped at 16. Yeah it sucked, and I do not wish it on anyone.

I think for SL to try and hide behind those things is the biggest but of bullshit I have ever heard.

She sickens me. Many, many people have gone through traumatic things and are not power-hungry jerks with their heads up their ass.

I hope she rots in hell right next to Kimmer and Tippy Toes.

September 19, 2007 at 11:28 pm

devil

Singinglass,
It is horrible what happened to you and I don’t think anyone is making light of it. . . but what you’re doing over there is horrible, too. Unfortunately, lots of individuals who have been abused turn into abusers themselves. You are VERY harsh sometimes when posting to people there. . . you are scaring people over there, censoring them, and making them feel shunned & alone. . . you didn’t like it, why would you want to do it to anyone else?

Please listen when Becky tells you that Heidi is NOT your friend; she does not care for you, she only cares for herself. Kimkinssmith and others here DO care about you. . .listen to them and break the cycle and finally break free.

September 19, 2007 at 11:29 pm

Stiff

I’m so glad I never trusted in Kimmer that much.

When I first joined in June (and not from WW…I didn’t even know about it!), I was so stoked to realize that she really did PM people. I had just had a ‘trigger’ in my own life which brought on much of the same pain SingingLass spoke about. For me, I felt if I lost the weight, all those parts of me would fade. They never bothered me growing up.

I nearly PMed and told Kimmer all about it in hopes I’d get affirmation, something…I’m so glad I didn’t.

I’m well now, but still…wow. Thank the heavens.

September 19, 2007 at 11:48 pm

La Mesa

“Do you even regret how you treated that 14-yo now?”

Exactly! and Curious..please get off your high horse I don’t really care what you think about what I have to say.

September 19, 2007 at 11:53 pm

Mayberryfan

This whole thing confirms that my radar isn’t totally broken. While I fell for Kimmer’s lies and need to destroy others, I always felt that SingingLass wanted to be an admin over at KK’s to be loved and accepted. Call it women’s intution! Hey, we ALL want to be accepted, so no shame in that, SL! But, you need to protect yourself and go ahead and admit that you fell for K’s lies like a lot of good folks did. You are getting used. Be strong! Don’t let someone like her take advantage of you – GET OUT NOW.

God bless, SL. You’ve had it rough. Sorry!

September 20, 2007 at 12:04 am

Sue

It is a tragedy what happened to you Singing Lass but nobody is seeing it as entertainment. Let go of the victim mentality and stand up to Kimmer. Don’t play a big part in turning members into victims. You know what its like to be a victim. You have a choice to do right by people.

September 20, 2007 at 12:32 am

another curious onlooker

Better to take the high ground…lest you crawl with the slugs.

September 20, 2007 at 12:33 am

another curious onlooker

Better to take the high road…lest you crawl with the slugs.

September 20, 2007 at 1:04 am

I’m concerned too

And if none of the above pleas reach into some part of your brain just keep saying this word to yourself: FELONY FELONY FELONY FELONY

September 20, 2007 at 2:48 am

justanotherduck

SingingLass, no one is laughing at your past. What you endured is horrible and criminal, and no one should have to suffer through those things.

BUT, lot’s of people were abused and mistreated as a child. I was, too… please don’t use that as an excuse to mistreat others! Go the other way– use that heightened sensitivity to care for others, to help them. And no, verbally abusing Kimkins visitors and fronting a fraud DOES not count as help.

I understand that it’s tempting to want to grab power wherever you can. You had no control as a child and now you do… it’s a strong urge, but fight it! You don’t want to be an abuser. You’re a surviver… and you’re better than that.

September 20, 2007 at 10:08 am

WOW

God, I am not touching this with a ten foot pole, either side, except to say this whole thing is getting way out of hand.

September 21, 2007 at 11:54 am

Jen Billing

singinglass-you told kimmer a bunch of lies about me that subsequently got me banned….
i dont care about being banned so much because i will get my money back and we will see to it that kimmer goes to prison over this scam…
i do care that lies were told about me and my particpation on the forums, and the lies were told by you….

are you a big enough woman (no pun intended) to apologize to me for those libelous lies?

or are you cut from the same cloth as the almighty kimmer, in which case you have no perception of reality whatsoever, and relish your cyber-”importance”

you still have time to retreat and get out from under kimmers spell…

show us that you have the morals and dignity to do so….





The TRUTH Outs Admins at Kimkins

18 09 2007

Just moments ago ‘the TRUTH’, who comments across many blogs and recently launched their own blog, released confidential admin forum communications on their blog. Hat tip to theTRUTH!

We wonder if Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) recognizes the inside source leaking this information out? These communications are, after all, in a hidden forum area only accessible to admins!

Sept. 5

From Kimmer:

Handling Forum Posts/Questions
First, I want to thank everyone for their time and your kindness to help out on Kimkins forums. I don’t have to tell you that our strongest asset is our members — including all of you!

I might bear mentioning that our main goal at Kimkins is to help people lose weight. This isn’t always by offering food choice advice, but encouraging and suggesting choices — which all of you do.

Any questions of a medical nature can have a general reply or your own personal experience, but they should be encouraged to ask their doctor. I don’t think any of us are doctors, no doctor would diagnose over the internet anyway. I understand they are hesitant to go to the doctor or may have financial problems, but we’re not medical experts.

As you’ve probably read in forums I don’t like negativity threads. Not that there’s anything wrong with venting, but their tone spreads quickly and distracts from the work we’re doing here. Negativity & weight loss don’t mix and can affect your whole day (think of the last time you had an argument with a spouse or coworker).

There’s a ton of places they can go to complain about me, I’d rather it not be here.

Again, thanks everyone, I really appreciate your help. I’m a bit behind with no computer for a week, but I’m working hard to get caught up. If anyone has more questions or wants to add anything, feel free!

K.

Sept., 6
From TippyToes

Re:Handling Forum Posts/Questions
I agree. The time we are spending hunting out the nay sayers is time we could have spent helping people. If any of you admins see negative posting, by all means delete it even if you have to delete the entire thread. And report the person who posted the offense to Kimmer right away, please. We are going to start banning with no refund. Because we are a paid site, I doubt too many will pay $ to come back just to cause trouble. Thanks again, everyone. This too shall pass…

From AdminXXX (Name removed because Admin has since resigned. Had too much sense I guess…)
Re:Handling Forum Posts/Questions
Wow, that’s a big step. I hope there was something in the terms of service that reserves the right to do that (or to change the terms of service). If not, that could create some kind of legal issue (or at least very hard feelings), since people are paying for lifetime memberships.

May I suggest:
- setting some very, very specific guidelines on what is and isn’t appropriate.
- setting a specific banning procedure, including a set of warnings
- making absolutely certain that everybody is informed about the guidelines and the banning procedure

Sept. 11
From SingingLass:
Something I felt i should make a note on…..is we should pay attention to questions in certain areas right now. Primarily questions in the fields the other sites are trying to claim as a negative of this plan right now…..such as calories, laxitives, children and the like. I do read the other stuff occassionally, I am not affected by it, but like to just keep tabs a bit on what is going on…..and one of the things I have seen is people wanting to try to manifest dirt—-so a harmless seeming question about how low they can go with calories or laxatives could potentially be a setup to try to get a response they can use somehow. I may sound paranoid, but I think it is a very real issue right now that should be considered in our responses….I personally am trying to be “safe” in my responses, refer to the reading, eating when hungry, and of course to check with doctor.

For instance, there is a thread in newbie forum right now “fat grams”…..of someone wanting to do the diet with nothing but shakes, and it just struck me a little odd on how they keep asking the same questions over and over about how low calories can go ignoring the responses……and got really aggressive towards me in my response. They seem to be looking for an exact number or an answer that says there is no limit to how low they can go. Again, this could be me being paranoid….but is an example of being alert to odd questions or behaviors.

From Kimmer:
Delaney, good point. Yes, they’re out … looking for anything that can be twisted or taken out of context. Hard to believe this is how some people actually spend their day.

90 pounds! Wow!

Sept. 14
From TippyToes:
Singing lass, you are one smart cookie! They won’t be tricking you. I too am keeping tabs on things over there. I feel we can use them for improvements to the site here. In a very odd way, we can use the negatives in a positive way.

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September 18, 2007 at 8:38 pm

La Mesa

I can’t believe what a scum bag tippy toes is….’ths too shall pass’ what a pathetic excuse for a human being to partner up with heidi the devil!

September 18, 2007 at 8:40 pm

La Mesa

Again..Tippy toes…just as evil as heidi!

September 18, 2007 at 8:42 pm

LastLCer

ROFLMAO, Tippy sure thinks she’s smarter than the average bear…NOT!

September 18, 2007 at 8:43 pm

Swinging Higher

Are you planning to do an expose on the remaining admins any time soon?

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The other admins profiles are in progress at the moment. We encourage those reading here to share any pertinent information in the comments and include “DO NOT POST” at the start if they wish the information to be confidential and anonymous.

September 18, 2007 at 8:43 pm

Barb

I love how they think they don’t have to refund money to people who get banned for NO REASON! You’ll find out you do! TT obviously is of the same calibur as that BIG FAT LIAR Heidi Diaz!

September 18, 2007 at 8:43 pm

ROFL

I had no clue there was a private admin forum over there. That they’re actually discussing how to ban members without refunds is sick.

September 18, 2007 at 8:45 pm

Josh

Just when you think nothing will surprise you, you’re surprised. I’m sure the admin who left — the only one with any common sense obviously — wishes they’d never been involved with this whole thing. This all is so disgusting to see. People can be really cruel to each other, can’t they?

September 18, 2007 at 8:55 pm

Terri

Disgusting!

September 18, 2007 at 9:00 pm

Kim

IMO they sound paranoid. Just trying to get the bad stuff off asap so they can continue to rope in newbies.

September 18, 2007 at 9:01 pm

Mir

I hope someone has the original TOS from when the mass of people signed up. I suspect that lots of fiddling will go on. If lifetime membership was not limited by the membership agreement–ie, if it didn’t say you could be banned sans refund for being “negative”–then I don’t see how they have the justification. You can’t run a site on the whims of teh dictator. There have to be standards and rules and people have to be able to know that the rules are stable, not changing according to She-Stalin’s whims.

She would have been much smarter allowing ONE “vent and ask” thread and let her henchwomen handle it on an ongoing basis. Heck, hire someone, use some of that 2 millions bucks, and let them be the vent-hostess.

When you let people talk and vent, you at least seem like a civilized, democratic person.

When you summarily delete and banish, well, you show your true colors.

Did the original agreement demand members never say anything critical of Heidi-Liedy? Did it say no negative comments on the forums? If not, then how can they use that as justificaton for banishment and censorship?

M.

September 18, 2007 at 9:11 pm

OddManOut

[i]Sept., 6
From TippyToes[/i]

Sooo. Tippy Toes was an admin days before she was officially announced? Interesting.

September 18, 2007 at 9:13 pm

Joey

They’ve got some balls, that’s for sure!

September 18, 2007 at 9:17 pm

too bad kimmer

Does this mean that “Pants on Fire” violated the TOS of the BBB by posting as an employee of Kimkins?

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It does indeed appear that Tippy Toes did violate the rules of the BBB for reviewing a company when she did so while an employee/admin.

September 18, 2007 at 9:30 pm

ixtapacheryl

Doesn’t surprise me in the least! I’m just shocked that they are all so cavalier towards their paying members. Don’t kid yourself – they could care less about any of their members losing weight or keeping it off. All they’re worried about is the negativity that is circling inside the KK site and eradicating it as soon as they can spot it. None of them want to deal with reality – it’s easier to ban and ignore.

Different day – same story!

September 18, 2007 at 9:51 pm

theTRUTH

Gee. If it is only accessible to Admins, how did I get at it?

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Ducky’ll never tell!

September 18, 2007 at 10:04 pm

Stiff

As for terms of service, this looks new to me:

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The Kimkins Program is provided in electronic media and as such cannot be returned for refund once purchased and accessed. Members may not harass, annoy, badger, bully or act in an offensive manner to other members or administration. Violators will have their accounts canceled and no refund given.

This website comprises various websites and pages operated by Kimkins.com and the information contained therein (together, the “website”). Certain sections of the website may contain separate terms and conditions, which are in addition to this agreement. You should read those additional terms and conditions carefully. By accessing such sections or pages, you agree to be bound by those additional terms and conditions. In the event of a conflict, those additional terms and conditions will govern your use of those sections or pages.
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Since when did it say accounts will be cancelled and no refunds given?

And where is this justified? What are her guidelines for being offensive? Some specifics would be nice.
The Anonymous Admin definitely said it well.

September 18, 2007 at 10:14 pm

WOW

Tippy…you really got alot on the ball don’t you.

Your’e gonna need all the “positives” you can get to get you out of this mess LOL.

September 18, 2007 at 10:18 pm

Leslie

Kimmer has a big problem.

She has an admin within her trusted circle betraying her.

What will she do next?

Will she fire them all?

How will she really know which one it is?

They’ll all deny it was them, but one will be lying!

I know who the TRUTH is, but I’m not telling!

September 18, 2007 at 10:19 pm

WOW

It’s quite the racket over there eh???

Take their money and ban them….and none of the new sign ups will know a thing about it until they themselves question whats going on….then they in turn will suffer the same fate…..

It’s a renewing resource…a money generating scam.

September 18, 2007 at 10:28 pm

RayOfFriknSunshine

Curious as I am to know who the Truth is, I hope s/he isn’t outed. Keep it up, whoever you are!

September 18, 2007 at 10:37 pm

MariaM

TRUTH should use his contact to do a global email to everyone in the kimkins database, complete with a history of everything going on and links to all these blogs so members who don’t wander around much get to see what’s going on!

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Kimmer may be the only one with privleges to do such a mass emailing, but with the mass emailing today of the email-ebook-advertisement, it’s obvious such a mailing is possible.

We really like your idea and hope theTRUTH sees it and takes action on it if possible, it’s simply duckilicious!

September 18, 2007 at 10:40 pm

Mimi

uhm… don’t you mean “withIN” her trusted circle? At any rate, the paranoia is delicious ain’t it … who is it, Heidi? who is the mongoose scampering around there in the snakepit?

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Good catch, we edited it for them!

September 19, 2007 at 12:24 am

ixtapacheryl

Mimi: Don’t you mean Meerkat ….. On it’s hind legs always on the look-out …..

September 19, 2007 at 1:01 am

Selenabj

Well isn’t Tippy Toes just a vile piece of vermin. Who does that little idiot think she is?? Her psychological profile would probably be that of a poor homely little fat girl who had self esteem issues. Now, the Great and Powerful OZ comes to use her and she is basking in the glory of her greatness. Get real Miss Tippy. You are not powerful. You are a nothing among a group of nothings. I love this mentality- “hey SL, you are one smart cookie . THEY won’t be tricking you… ” oh yeah Miss Tippy?
When you come crawling back to your old forum, begging people to understand what a fool you were, I hope they turn their backs on you.

And then Big Kimmer makes her profound statement-
“Hard to believe this is how some people actually spend their day.”
Funny, that is exactly what I was thinking about you!!
Can anyone say POND SCUM??

September 19, 2007 at 1:51 am

Mimi

PS to Duckie and Leslie — I wasn’t criticizing or laughing at the typo … just wanted to add my two cents to the amusement re Heidi being unable — truly unable — to trust even those in her inner circle.

The thing is, she seems either unable or unwilling to “get” that the reason she can’t trust “friends” or enemies is her own fault.

September 19, 2007 at 3:28 am

Mimi

Mongoose. Snake’s worst enemy. Besides Ducks of course :)

September 19, 2007 at 4:58 am

count padunkadunk

Tippy how sad that you do not see what you have become. Maybe you have always been this way and I am just now seeing.

September 19, 2007 at 1:36 pm

Kim

Well, I was banned w/o a refund and didn’t post anything negative. I got banned for the BBB complaint so she still has some revising to do to get it right. Oh wait! If you sign up, the TOS is what it is when you sign up, not what she changes it to daily to cover her @$$. That’s like business law 101…and the lesson that we were all taught when we were 2 by our parents…you can’t change the rules after the game starts. Maybe Heidi was raised by wolves and never learned those lessons…it would explain a lot don’t you think?

September 20, 2007 at 3:05 am

Got my hip boots on

If you wanna see some real vileness you all should maybe look in the mirror and see the snarly wild-eyed hounds you have become. This isn’t about saving people, it’s about getting your rocks off hunting someone down. Pretty obvious to those of us who are still sane.





Kimkins Members Being Watched

17 09 2007

We’ve previously reported on the spyware installed on member computers when they log in to the Kimkins website. While its existence has been downplayed and chalked up to other sites utilizing similar tracking technologies, we learned this weekend that Kimkins members are also admittedly followed around online, to other forums to see what they’re saying outside the Kimkins website!

As much was admitted by a newer admin, SingingLass, this weekend when a Kimkins member had her personal journal suddenly deleted without warning. The furor caused by that incident is already detailed on the blog The TRUTH Starts Here.

Here, we’d like to point to one paragraph, penned by SingingLass, that should send chills down the spine of any Kimkins members remaining,

The journal in question, various posts made across the boards, and that individual’s signature were being utilized to bring in/ link to the negativity elsewhere. They knew full well what they were doing and why things had to be removed….as was seen in their boasts elsewhere. The policy regarding such behavior has been made pretty clear, both by Kimmer, and the requests of the members here wanting to be able to focus on their weight loss without the interuption of those who participate only to cause problems or report to other sites.

Not only does SingingLass appear to believe she can know another’s intent, but she clearly admits that the member whose entire personal journal was deleted was being watched elsewhere online, outside the Kimkins website!

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September 17, 2007 at 7:49 pm

Ban ME Kimmer!

WTF!

Who the hell are they to watch what any paying member of their site does OUTSIDE the kk website?

September 17, 2007 at 7:49 pm

Josh

That’s whacked!

September 17, 2007 at 7:54 pm

Maggie

WOWSERS!

An admin there actually admits they’re spying on their paying members when they’re at other forums online!

That is just disgusting!!!!!

September 17, 2007 at 7:57 pm

theTRUTH

Don’t forget these parts:

“What many of you apparently did not see was that individual running through all the boards, making post after post that was direct problem causing. Following that, they went to another site where they were congratulated by many for their actions, and bragging and admitance to what they did…. and why…. was presented.”

and

“By all means feel free to participate on other message boards, websites, communities…there is no reason at all to not be able to do so. I myself am involved on many—spanning different kinds of subject matters. The problem is only with a small group of people bouncing site to site, publically gloating and bragging about activities being done specifically to cause harm and distruption on this site and for the members here. I imagine you can understand why we would want to discourage that.”

Also, a former admin asked openly in her lowcarbdiscussion journal if someone could check to see if her signature still had a link the her blog. I checked, and it did. The next morning, said link was gone, (after being there for weeks after her banning). So, yes, her flying monkeys are reading all the blog posts, comments, and discussion boards.

September 17, 2007 at 8:43 pm

Scoble

Let’s not forget now, (as I learned from reading “Kimmer’s” PMs to her pet admin SingingLass) SingingLass is a psychic of sorts and she might just be able to intuit where everyone is going on the internet! ;^)

September 17, 2007 at 8:59 pm

LCer

That’s downright disturbing that they think it’s OK to follow members around to see what they’re doing on other forums.

SingingLass should be ashamed of herself!

September 17, 2007 at 9:15 pm

Concerned about kimkins

I still think Singing lass is Heidi’s other persona. She clearly has multiples. If not singing lass needs a good wake up smack. Sheesh!

September 17, 2007 at 10:04 pm

Julie

No Singinglass is not Heidi. More’s the pity.

For the record, I was not “boasting” all over creation about putting links in my signature and blog. I was not out to cause trouble. However, when I posted those links in response to a question about what happened to Deni, Christin, and Becky, my post was deleted. Heidi created the “Kimmer Chatter” forum ostensibly so people could talk about the controversy in that one place. I realized when my post was deleted that the admins and Heidi had no intention of allowing any meaningful discussion of the issues. Only at that point did I provide links in my signature and journal.

September 17, 2007 at 10:11 pm

Banned Member Speaks Out « Kimkins Exposed

[…] kimkins fraud, kimkins members, leave, lies, online tracking, technical glitch Earlier today we reported on the deletion of a member’s entire personal journal and her banishment from the Kimkins website. You may recall the explanation of the admin […]

September 17, 2007 at 10:49 pm

ghoov

Julie, most likely she wanted everything discussed in one place is so she could more easily find anything she deemed offensive. A Forum can become a large place and it’s hard to read every single post.

In other words, she wanted to make her censorship more convenient.

September 18, 2007 at 1:41 pm

theTRUTH

Yeah, Singing(L)ass is not Heidi. Just her “mini-me”. I hear she and Tippy are going to have a pay-per-view catfight for Kimmer’s love, to benefit Kimmer’s foster kids… :)

The first member quoted in my blog post has also now been banned.

September 18, 2007 at 2:04 pm

anonymous

Newest Admin speaks up in the chatter.. with foul language and all!!!

“Perhaps you two can explain something to me, did you pay the subscription price for this site? I believe you did. Did you receive what you paid for? Again I believe you did ( you paid for a diet plan and got 5 of them along with a wealth of other material). If your not satisfied with the plan, then your free to leave at any time you wish. However understand that if you continue to post negative comments about the plan on these forums you run the risk of being banned from them.

Now of course there is a difference between posting an occasional concern or vent over some aspect of the plan your having trouble with or don’t like and posting blatantly negative comments about either the plan or kimmer. Personally I don’t give a damn what you think about the plan, and if you can’t be supportive I would happily ban you but that’s not my job here. I am here to ensure that negativity is kept to a minimum.”

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Can you tell us which admin wrote those words?

Wait, as the Church Lady on Saturady Night Live would say, “Nevermind”

September 18, 2007 at 3:19 pm

Kim

Negativity kept to a minimum? Um – isn’t that post kind of negative in itself?

Geez – reading it kind of took me back to grade school with the nuns waving their finger in my face telling me that good little catholic girls didn’t say anything bad about other people.

September 18, 2007 at 3:50 pm

theTRUTH

I have blogged the posts referenced by anonymous above, if you want to read the whole thing.

September 18, 2007 at 4:39 pm

theTRUTH

http://thetruthinhiding.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-admin-competes-for-kimmers.html