Let’s Review Important Information

Since July we’ve posted about the dangers of the Kimkins diet and the deceptions used in selling it.

For those just tuning in, please take a few moments to read some of our most important posts:

• Fake Success Story Pictures
• Kimkins Manipulation: One Diet Fits All Dietary Patterns
• Mission Possible: Convince People Being Fat is Worse than the Kimkins Diet
• Kimkins Sells Potentially Deadly Very Low Calorie Diet
• Kimkins Very Low Calorie Diet Courts Health Risks, Death (must read for anyone who has actually followed the diet plans as written)

Information about the class action lawsuit is available here.

Information about requesting refunds at PayPal is available here.

A summary of the controversy is available on Wikipedia. (Wiki deleted the article)

UPDATE: Ducky is taking the weekend off to spend time with family and friends. For those new to our blog, please take some time this weekend to read our posts and understand why we feel it is important the truth about Kimkins and Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) be exposed. For those continuing along and keeping up, we’ll be back on Monday and hope you’ll take a breather this weekend too to relax and have some fun!

We will be moderating comments over the weekend, so if you leave a comment, it will be in the queue until we get to it as we have time throughout the weekend.

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October 5, 2007 at 2:06 pm

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October 5, 2007 at 2:28 pm

McLurkypants

After some back & forth over deletion attempts, I’ve gotten an article to stick on Wikipedia – all familiar with Wikipedia editing should feel free to hop over there and contribute! Kimkins Controversy on Wikipedia.

October 5, 2007 at 2:51 pm

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October 5, 2007 at 2:58 pm

BamaGal

Here is something else that needs addressing, the Ezine articles. I did a couple of blog posts about it. I still have not received any info from them. But they have addressed it in their own blog. Check out these links.

Ezine Articles « Kimkins Scam

EzineArticles Blog » Battles We Did Not Ask For

October 5, 2007 at 3:07 pm

captivated

mclurkypants – that is beautiful!

i can’t stop watching this story unfold. it’s like the OJ trial!

October 5, 2007 at 11:12 pm

Cryssi

*********for ducky**********

This was made by Gina for you over at LCF. These are the new badges we’re all sporting in leiu of the rubber ducks.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/9311882-post872.html

October 6, 2007 at 2:07 am

Susan

Looks like the Wiki article is down. I was really hoping to check it out, too!
Did anyone copy the Wiki article anywhere that can be read now?

October 6, 2007 at 2:58 am

Kimmer Is Busted

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 3:02 am

kim

Dude, go to LCF, they found the red dress.

October 6, 2007 at 3:02 am

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October 6, 2007 at 3:07 am

kkatastrophediet

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

red dress alert!

October 6, 2007 at 3:12 am

HoneyBee

The big fake picture source was found…Kimmer in the red dress goes by the name Lesya http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 3:47 am

Concerned about kimkins

Ducky Wake the hell up!!!!

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 3:53 am

BamaGal

The lady in the red dress as been found!!!

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 5:34 am

Laura

Here’s the Lady in Red:

Lesya

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=2

October 6, 2007 at 5:47 am

McLurkypants

Have you heard that the RED DRESS photo Kimmer presented as hers has been found on one of those Russian mail order bride sites by a woman named “Buzzybee” at LCF??

HERE she is!

October 6, 2007 at 5:48 am

McLurkypants

OK I don’t know if that link works?

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 8:30 am

Princess Dieter

The Red Dress has been found. And Ducky missed it. Dang, Ducky.

But I’m sure by Monday, when you return, there will be all sorts of new reports about the Kimtanic.

Happy Weekend All. I feel sooooo good about that pic being found. YES!

The Princess

October 6, 2007 at 1:02 pm

Susan

Hmm, my post of last night is gone… Anyway, I had posted that the Wiki article is down. Anyone have a copy posted elsewhere that we can read?

October 6, 2007 at 1:13 pm

Princess Dieter

Yeah, it supersucks that they deleted it. McLurky had done a great job, lots of good links. I hope it’s reinstated.

The Princess

October 6, 2007 at 2:14 pm

Susan

PD, I know – I hope to see the Wiki article soon.
McLurky, any chance you kept a copy?
Wow! I wake up this morning to a Blizzard of Red Dresses! This is great.

October 6, 2007 at 3:11 pm

thatgirl

I can’t get into LCF right now. Grrrr. Internet page cannot be displyed. I wonder if Heidi was letting Brandon out his hacker hat on again.

October 6, 2007 at 4:42 pm

Susan

Yep, LCF boards appear to be down. I was able to go to LCD and to the main board page, but was unable to access specific links such as Stillmans etc.

Can’t wait to see what Darth Kimmer still has up her sleeve.

My prediction is her next spin will be to play her sympathy card. She will take a page from the Paris / Brittney playbook.

October 7, 2007 at 2:13 am

McLurkypants

Susan & Ducky, I am having to go thru the challenge procedure on Wikipedia (AGAIN). I have the support of the admins who deleted it the first time I put it up – we shall see what happens.

I AM SO PISSED that I didn’t save a copy of it! Others had gone on and edited & added so much stuff, it was really growing. I hope it will come back – I’ll spread the word when it does. Glad you appreciated it!

October 8, 2007 at 3:10 pm

theTRUTH

This is for the California attorney generals consumer complaint form.

http://ag.ca.gov/contact/complaint_form.php?cmplt=CL

December 27, 2007 at 4:57 pm

katinsac

Friends don’t let friends do Kimkins! Remember that cover girl on the WW Mag? Well, she learned the hard way about Kimkins and it’s dangers!! Read her blog and decide for yourself.

http://the-journey-on.blogspot.com/

December 27, 2007 at 9:43 pm

katinsac

Now that you know the Truth…Join the Lawsuit!!

http://kimkinslawsuit.wordpress.com/

Kimkins: Internet Diet Scam

Kimkins: Internet Diet Scam

Watch Part 1

Watch Part 2

KTLA Expose on Kimkins, Part 2 Tonight

10:00 PM PDT
Part 2: Kimkins Controversy

Video will be available shortly following on-air broadcast.

—————–

If you have not yet watched Part 1, you can watch the video here.

Kimmer Plays it Cool

This morning, after KTLA’s segment last night, featuring Kimkins as an ‘internet scam’, Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is downplaying the significance of the broadcast and remains calm and cool to members.

With no remorse or explanation about the broadcast, Kimmer is posting away in an attempt to quiet any questioning, and banning members who dare speak up.

On the thread ‘Ask Kimmer’ a member wrote:

Just want to publicly throw in my two cents about all the controversy swirling around us. I know you would get a lot of flack if you did this, Kimmer, but–I wouldn’t care a bit if you took out all the negative stuff. I think the time for reaction to and self-_expression_ regarding all the people leaving, the lawsuit, etc. needs to have run its course. Those of us who are trying to focus on the program keep running into all that “stuff” on just about every thread we turn to. Enough is enough!

Kimmer replied:

I know. We’re doing our best to keep it off the site. People who enjoy reading it can find it at 1,001 other places. Meanwhile, stay focused, do your work, let your body show you what it can do!

On another thread, Kimmer wrote:

Maybe I can shed some light?

The point of this website — the entire reason it exists — is to help people lose weight. When there’s interference with that intent, we take action. Whether that is banning troublemakers or removing elements that distract from our purpose, we do it.

Personally I don’t like negativity on this site. I’ve said it a thousand times and I still mean it. If anyone is unhappy or disillusioned, there are a ton of other websites to vent your feelings. Or, start an anti-Kimmer blog like the “popular kids”. Sorry, bad humor. Everyone is 100% to their opinion. Absolutely. Just take the negative opinions elsewhere.

Or, you could just lose weight?

Those of you who have been members since the website started have seen regular changes to the front page. I think we are on #5 “facelift”? Our graphic guys get bored and every few months they get an urge to make changes. Unfortunately, this change was stopped midway. The brother of our lead graphic person is having open heart surgery and the balance of the design changes have been postponed a few days.

They’ve got ideas for another front page change a few months from now. It’s the nature of the beast.

And on yet another thread, inquiring about the removal of success stories from the site, Kimmer wrote:

I’m right here!

We are renovating the front page. We needed more space on the top menu bar so some elements were removed. Success stories are still there in photo form on the right side and expanded to show 5 at a time. We’ll be adding 3 new success stories this week!

The naysayers would love for me to chat on … so I won’t. We’ve got some new support resources for members coming up, too! Keep an eye out!

——————-

If you have not yet watched the KTLA broadcast, you can watch the video here. Tonight KTLA will broadcast part 2 at 10:00 PM PDT.

Tippytoes Blames Members for Health Problems

This morning, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) is digging in and trying to explain the changes made to the homepage of the Kimkins website. In it, she lays blame for health problems on those following the Kimkins plans.

Tippytoes wrote:

What happened to Kimmer’s Red Dress Picture?

We are making many new and positive changes to this site every single day. We have chosen to remove the red dress photo and in place use People magazine. Too much contravery surrounds that pic and rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it. The success stories are still there although someone else did ask me where they went. I checked and they are there. Not sure if this is a tech glitch or not. But I can look further into it. Does anyone else not see them?

I think it was well said previously that Kimkins diet has been abused by some members at their own doings who now point the finger in blame towards us. We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own. We do not promote starvation, laxitive abuse or any of the like and we are making this clear. There will always be room for improvements and we are always willing to make them. We have even introduced a cycle option as part of the positive change and to help transition towards maintenance later.

We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff. However, rest assured we have some new gathering ideas in the works for next year. What we have in mind will be better and will geer more in tuned with Kimkins diets than an all you can eat fest cruise. I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.

The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here. We have a walk for breast cancer coming up and I will be posting more soon. In addition we are considering a fundraiser challenge to benefit Toys For Tots. Members participating would make and pay their own pledges directly to Toys For Tots. There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.

So hang tight, my fellow Kimkinettes! Change is GOOD!

I want you all to not be afraid to see positive changes being made. This only means we are here to stay and getting better all the time.

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October 2, 2007 at 2:32 pm

Dottie

“rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it.”

But of course… much easier just to pretend it never existed.

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

Melt’s contribution to the renovations?

October 2, 2007 at 2:37 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 2:46 pm

Kimmerexia

Tippytoes sez: “We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own.”

No need to “abuse” Kimkins. At 500 to 1,000 calories, it’s already starvation!!!

Tippytoes spins: “We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard [SIC] for Kimkins members as well as staff.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wouldn’t have anything to do with Regandy, the cruise organizer, jumping ship from the sinking good ship Kimtanic, would it? Noooooooooo, of course not!!!

Tippytoes defines: “Kimkinettes!”

Ah, so THAT’S what the remaining smattering of duped sugar-free kool-aid drinking minions are officially called.

Tippytoes pathetically optimistically quips: “The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here.”

Yes indeed. The lawsuits, governmental investigations and transitioning former KimkinETTES from starvation to healthful ways of eating is gonna be a friggin’ laugh a minute.

October 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm

Kim

“I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.”

Don’t trust the members to make their own decisions on what they eat? Why not tell the real reason….Heidi still wouldn’t show her face and too many questions were asked about it, so it was decided to just remove all info and hope they’ve banned everyone who knew about Heidi’s refusal.

October 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Members abusing the plan and eating low calories against Kimmer” will?
This is typical “blame the victim” abusive thinking.

Anyone who has been around Kimkins for long knows that ultra-low calories was always Kimmer’s intention. It is precisely what makes it Kimkins, not Atkins.

When I was on Boot Camp, exercising, eating an average of 465 calories a day, and stalled, and had the nerve to complain about it and decide to increase my fats, Kimmer’s emailed response was (and i quote):

“Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in
calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.

Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is
“high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the
Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight
loss will be different. Don’t forget people who
dabble in days of fasting, too.

If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else,
maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was
their weight loss accomplished by methods we would
want to follow? Many people on this site have a
problem with very low calories and refuse. “

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October 2, 2007 at 3:40 pm

Kimmerexia

Funny that Tippytoes doesn’t refer to the pic as “Kimmer’s AFTER picture.”

No, it’s referred to as “the red dress picture” because even Jeannie Baitinger, Director of Public Relations for Kimkins doesn’t believe that it could possibly Kimmer’s AFTER picture.

October 2, 2007 at 4:31 pm

regandy

The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.

OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.

Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.

If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.

October 2, 2007 at 4:42 pm

anani

I am sick beyond words that Tippy would put the blame on the members for taking the diet to extremes. The extreme nature of this diet was carefully coached and taught by Kimmer herself. The following is a direct copy of Kimmer’s words to a newbie. I have the screen shot to back this up if it is ever needed.

Member asks Kimmer:
I’m new here – just started yesterday.

Which plan is designed for the fastest weight loss results?

I’m on KE and don’t have a problem with it. I was looking at Boot Camp and wondering is it’s designed for quicker weight loss results?

Thanks!!

Kimmer’s response:
The very fastest would be the Meal Replacement Shake option because there’s no chance of messing up. 450 calories a day, that’s it.

Second is Boot Camp because the protein and salads are limited, but someone could still pick a higher calorie protein by accident.

K/E was originally the fastest, but it’s not always anymore because some people tend to be creative about what a “lean” protein is plus overeating with too big portions or small snacks all day .

Kimkins is the slowest and still way faster than any other non-Kimkins plan except water fasting.

Another Member asks:
Hi Kimmer

You just posted a relpy that the Replacement Shake option is 450 caloris a day but when I look at the plan under KIMKINS Diet Plans it says 800 calories a day. Which is correct?

Kimmer’s response:
It would be 800 if you choose 200 calorie shakes and 4 per day. Personally, as long as I’m doing shakes (which are not incredibly exciting anyway), I’d find a 150 calorie version and limit to 3 (skipping a snack shake).

But I’m impatient.

October 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm

ixtapacheryl

“A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory”

OMG more fund raisers? No cruise scheduled because of safety issues?

October 2, 2007 at 5:05 pm

Stiff

So, this morning Yahoo greeted me with these articles:

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19365/6-diets-to-avoid

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19885/the-skinny-on-4-fad-diets;_ylt=AtuWsn6WiXWM8xqU5xWQeuka788F

Mmmmmmmm I smell Kimkins in those guidelines…

October 2, 2007 at 5:17 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 5:26 pm

Stiff

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

This really makes me laugh after Melt/Kimmer PM about animals.

October 2, 2007 at 6:16 pm

cando

I can’t believe this. Back in June when I posted on that site I was having “potty problems” I was told to try Exlax by several memebers and Kimmer. Becky Lil Bit came through with the suggestion of Smooth Move tea, which is herbal. I went with Becky’s suggestion and another one of two stalks of celery a day…that worked. ’cause I know that Exlax used on a regular basis can really mess you up big time.
But until people started complaining, they were promoting laxatives as a way of life. It seem to me that when I first joined, all people were eating on that site were eggwhites and Exlax. Back in my 20’s, I went on an Exlax, Dr. Pepper, M&M’s and cigerette diet for about a month, Lost tons of weight.
Man, I need to get me a web site and start sellin’ that. It was way more fun than egg whites and Exlax.

So, Tippy, your plan use to promote laxative use. Which attorney told you to stop?
And fundraisers? Man, that’s great. I guess getting $59.95 one time out of members isn’t good enough. “fund raisers” for the Pad My Pocket foundation. I’ll pass thank you.

October 2, 2007 at 6:36 pm

Antikimmerite

To top it all off SingingAss needs to learn to spell. Or edit. That was painful to read.

October 2, 2007 at 6:39 pm

finleysmom

This post made me so angry!! This was my reply on the site with my goodbye.

Too much controversy surrounding the red dress???? Are you kidding me??? Why not fix this then????? There should be NO controversy!!! FIX THIS by proving what is real! I don’t understand what the problem is. If the picture is Kimmer then PROVE IT! Why all the secrets, changes, drama, and lies??? WHY??? I have been around since the beginning on LCF. I was one of the first 20 members of Kimkins when all was hailed…”isn’t it nice to be on a site where you can speak freely and not have PM’s read and posts changed/deleted” WTF? This place is worse than LCF EVER was. What is wrong with you crazy people?? This is a nut house now. I can’t believe what has happened to this place. I feel so sad for the members who don’t understand that all of this change is a horrible sign. I am so sad it has come to this.

Goodbye all and good luck to finding what works for you!

October 2, 2007 at 6:43 pm

finleysmom

Oh, and yes I was banned for this post LOL!

October 2, 2007 at 9:06 pm

Princess Dieter

There is no limit to Tippy Toes’ reprehensible twisting of actual experiences and reality. Dang, that’s some shiny 30 pieces of silver there, Tips.

Controversy and the red dress? hahaha There would be no controversy if it was Kimmer, now would there be? The controversy is that it’s NOT.

And all that site scrubbing. Did you get all those Kimmer posts urging people to eat less, less, less and take laxatives? Did you?

And the members to blame? Boy. For someone who doesn’t follow the plan, you have some nerve judging those who DID in good faith.

You know, some people really do need to go down hard with the ship and captain…

So glad Christin and others are out there to put the lie to Tipper’s propaganda.

The Princess

October 2, 2007 at 9:52 pm

CR

“the red dress picture”

Why not say the “picture of Kimmer” LMAO…..

What a freakin JOKE!!!!

No cruise because there is food on it ROFLMAO…..

it just gets better everytime….the lies, the twists, the stupidity LOL

October 2, 2007 at 10:55 pm

moo

“We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff”

WTF lol. Oh and would someone PLEASE buy TT a friggen dictionary (and teach her how to use it).

October 2, 2007 at 11:56 pm

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October 3, 2007 at 7:36 am

Sue

Tippy – you’re a bitch!
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Keep Digging Tippytoes, Keep Digging

Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) continues to enlighten Kimkins members about her theory on Ducky, theTRUTH and why Low Carb Friends is unAmerican too!

SUBJECT: Re:Question for Tippy

Tippytoes wrote:

Well, Netrition does allow it’s BB to be used to help destroy our home here. They allow members to speak freely and very unkindly, make fun of and threaten people who follow Kimkins. They even allow this hostility towards their own members who follow Kimkins. They are aware their chat admins are Ducky and The Truth and they are aware of the slander being written and promoted. They have made no efforts to discourage this behavior and in fact appear to be in favor of promoting it. They allow their members to make fun of overweight people yet they call themselves a diet support site. They still keep all Kimkins threads available for use. The “we can do what we want and you better not question it” is unreasonable and unAmerican at best. If you want to do business with this company you certainly may and you have every right to do so. But I want the truth known so others can make their own choices too.

*****

It’s clear Tippytoes has now entered into the realm of what can only be considered libel against Low Carb Friends and their admins; in addition she’s now fully within the boundaries of a lawsuit should Low Carb Friends or those admins she’s accusing decide to take the next step.

Oh, and Tippytoes, slander isn’t written, it’s verbal.

Jimmy Moore Follows Up on Christin’s Story

Please note, the following is a repost from Livin’ La Vida Low Carb. We have edited to remove graphics and embedded video.

Kimkins cover girl: “I was wrong…Kimkins is not the way to lose weight”

It takes a very special person to publicly admit when they were wrong about something even after multiple warnings and concerns shared by those around them. And yet that is exactly what has happened this week when Kimkins Woman’s World cover girl Christin delivered an impassioned video apology at her blog along with a detailed explanation of the health complications she and others have suffered since beginning the risky low-carb imposter diet scheme devised by a morbidly obese woman named Heidi Diaz.

I blogged about my concerns over the Kimkins fiasco that culminated earlier this week when this beautiful young woman had to be rushed to the emergency room because of some pain in her chest and heart complications. When you hear something like this happening that was brought on by such an extreme low-fat/low-calorie diet like Kimkins, it should make you angry. AND I AM ANGRY ABOUT IT!

To anyone who is still on the Kimkins diet, CHRISTIN has a message just for YOU (link to video)

Show your support for and encouragement to Christin by leaving a comment about this video at her “The Journey On” blog. What a brave woman she is and I am honored to know her as a friend. She has demonstrated nothing but grace, elegance, and dignity in the midst of what has become a complete and utter nightmare for so many of us in the low-carb community concerning this Kimkins debacle.

For the sake of those who cannot view the video, the following is a summary of the video, including direct quotes made by Christin regarding her experience following the Kimkins diet. Be prepared to be shocked and stunned as she shares quite openly about the negative impact this weight loss fraud has had and may continue to have on her health. Pray for her even now as she seeks to reverse the damage that has been done.

Christin said she did this video so that others would “know exactly where I stand on this.” She explained why most people choose to lose weight: to improve their health. Period! When you are 100+ pounds overweight, then you are not living healthy, she noted.

She chose the Kimkins program because she “wanted to lose weight quickly and I thought healthfully” because she “wanted more for my life.” She wanted to “be there” for her family in the years to come. I think all of us who have ever gone on a weight loss plan can relate to that.

When she first began, the program was working great for her because “I was following the program exactly as written. I thought I was doing perfectly.” But after losing 100 pounds in five months, Christin then conspicuously noticed there was not one single doctor who approved the Kimkins diet. That’s when she started looking into who Heidi Diaz, aka Kimmer, really was and what she claimed to be.

Diaz had alleged in the marketing of Kimkins that she lost 198 pounds in 11 months on this Kimkins diet and was promoting it that way to anyone who would listen with supposed pictures to prove it. But it was this recent series of articles that included recent photographs of Diaz along with several other sites that made Christin become concerned and realize that those claims by Diaz were simply “not true.”

“Heidi did not lose the weight, she did not follow this program that she claims is safe for anybody, even for diabetics,” Christin said.

Then Christin turned in her video to the “risks” of being on the Kimkins diet that she discovered first-hand while following the program. She said she has real “concerns for everyone else that has attempted this program or will attempt this program.”

That includes first and foremost hair loss. Christin admitted that her hair “started fall out in handfuls” and it “scared” her. She estimates she has lost as much as 60 percent of what used to be “thick, full hair” prior to her Kimkins experience.

“Now it’s very thin,” she exclaimed.

Another side effect was the loss of her menstrual cycle that she believes happened from “eating so few calories and my body was becoming malnourished.” She said the hair loss and lack of periods are both tell-tale signs of anorexia, an eating disorder where victims literally starve themselves to be thin.

“I believe now the Kimkins diet program promotes a form of anorexia that I don’t know if science has even attempted touch on this yet,” Christin stated. “300 calories a day is not safe weight loss.”

Any dietary change this drastic need to be closely monitored by a doctor just like those who undergo gastric bypass surgery do, she added.

When these symptoms began to show up, Christin went on the Kimkins forums to see if anyone else was losing their hair and female cycle like she was. “What’s going on?” she pleaded to anyone who would listen to her concerns. And Christin said she “saw it come up multiple times” regarding these symptoms she was having in other people, too.

The excuse provided in response to this happening was that it was “perfectly normal and you’re going through a shed. Your body is just losing estrogen.” It was just too coincidental that “almost every other person who kept their calories under 1000 calories, probably more under 700 calories, has lost hair.”

“I don’t want to scare you,” Christin said speaking directly to people who are still following Kimkins, “but I want to bring you into the reality that there is a better way to lose weight.”

Christin asks “are you really doing this?” and urges people to take their diet plan to their doctor for him to examine it. “Take him your Fitday, take him exactly what you are eating, let him see your calorie counts,” she said.

“I’m concerned about you,” Christin pleaded.

Christin says she is sorry for supporting the “dangerous” Kimkins diet

When the time came for Christin to step into the spotlight back in June when the Woman’s World magazine cover story opportunity came up, she said she was “put on a pedestal as the ‘cover girl.’ I was the model, I was the way to do it.” But now she realizes how she was used as a pawn and seeks the mercy of those who trusted and looked up to her.

“I need to ask your forgiveness,” she said. “I’m sorry. I was wrong. Kimkins is not the way to lose weight. Kimkins is dangerous…for your health, it’s dangerous for your psyche.”

But as much as Kimkins hurt Christin up until this point, none of it was as grave as what was happening to her without even realizing it. She had the symptoms of an eating disorder that she admits made her realize she “had a problem” when she was fearful of even consuming some salad out of fear that she’d stall in her weight loss.

“I did not get fat on salad and on healthy vegetables,” Christin explained. “I got fat on sugar and white carbs.”

Getting over the fear of eating was a very difficult mental test for Christin as she now obsessed over every little bite of food she was eating and how it would impact her on the scale. She revealed that she hasn’t met anyone who has been on the Kimkins program who wasn’t “literally scared” to add food back into their diet.

“What kind of a program is it that makes you scared? Weight loss is not about fear, weight loss is about excitement, it’s about joy, it’s about recapturing your life,” Christin shared with a glimmer in her eyes. “It should be a fun journey, not a fearful one.”

And yet fear was exactly what gripped Christin and it would not let go of her.

“If I wasn’t losing everyday, then I began wondering what was wrong with me,” Christin admitted. “Nothing was wrong with me. My body was screaming at me. It was putting the brakes on and telling me you’re going about this the wrong way.”

As a devout Christian, she knew that “God created us to eat healthy foods; vegetables and fruits, whole grains, and yes, even fat.” Christin reiterated that she believes there is “validity to low-carb programs” like Atkins, Protein Power, and the like when they are done the correct way and not the Kimkins way.

“You will provide your body with all of the nutrients that it needs” when you follow low-carb by the book, Christin shared. “God did not create you to starve yourself.”

Outlining the “many dangers within the Kimkins program,” she said that it goes much deeper than just an eating disorder. She said that “something is going on within my body” and that it has been manifested in the form of “flutters” in her heart for the past month.

“Twinges, cramps, aches, all within my chest cavity right around the area of my heart,” Christin expressed, sharing that it all came to a head on Monday when the “severe chest pains…stomach aches, and nausea” were so great she was admitted to the emergency room staying there until late at night.

The doctors examined her with many tests, including an EKG, blood work, chest x-rays, and they kept her at the hospital for several hours to monitor her condition. It’s still unknown what caused the tremendous pain to come on Christin like it did on Monday night, but she was prescribed pain medications and was referred to a cardiologist for an immediate follow-up visit.

That visit to the cardiologist took place on Wednesday who shared several concerns for Christin. With a “more and more serious” look on his face after hearing Christin’s story about her starvation-mode weight loss method compliments of the Kimkins diet, he told her flat out that “our bodies can suffer damage from eating that little.”

After conducting more tests on her, including an EKG, an ECG, blood work, and “lots of listening with the stethoscope,” the cardiologist said he was not concerned about what he called a “normal” low pulse rate of 45 (incidentally, mine is in the upper 40’s since I lost nearly 200 pounds and Christin has experienced a heart rate in the low-to-mid 40’s). Even still, she says she “might get a second opinion on” just to be sure about it.

But there were real concerns that the cardiologist had for Christin, including “possible damage to my heart nodes and valves from malnutrition.” Because of that, he wants to have a sonogram of Christin’s heart to confirm whether or not there is this damage since it was inconclusive from the initial examination. He’s also concerned about some “esophageal spasms” that happen whenever there is a “rapid change in your dietary program and you lose a lot of weight.”

“Things can change on your insides,” Christin quoted the cardiologist as saying, “that it takes it a while to catch up.”

She is now medication for this “distress” with the contractions surrounding her esophagus and trying to rest as her body goes through the healing process.

Speaking passionately and directly to those who still think the Kimkins diet is a safe and effective way to lose weight in a healthy manner, Christin had an extremely clear and articulate message for them.

“If I and my story can stop anyone else from having pain and having the fear that I did that I might have caused even further damage and by attempting to be for my family I hindered my longevity with them–I was scared to death. That ride to the hospital was one of the most fearful ones that I have ever had! My husband was scared at having to face the possibility of losing his wife and his helper and his love,” she recalled from her haunting experience earlier this week.

When they got to the hospital, Christin said she and her husband “prayed together” while holding hands hoping for the best in God’s hands. And that’s something she wants to help others avoid if they will simply listen to what she has to say.

“If I can save any of you from having to go through that, then it is worth it,” Christin concluded.

Speaking about her role as the Public Relations head of Kimkins last month and as the cover girl on the Woman’s World magazine in June, Christin said she did it because she “thought [she] was helping” others as is her heart’s desire.

“It has always been my desire to help people,” she said. “And especially those that I feel a connection with, those who have struggled to lose weight their entire lives, those who have issues with obesity–something that I know all too well.”

Christin said taking on those responsibilities felt like she was “doing my part to give hope, to give assurance, to sympathize and to empathize” with people who were facing the same struggles that she had trying to lose weight. She still has those feelings for people who want to beat their obesity which is why she is still blogging and participating in a low-carb forum again.

“My heart goes out to you because I know what it’s like,” Christin stated. “I know the euphoria of losing weight quickly, but I also know the risks and the dangers involved and I am begging with you now to please listen to your body like I’ve said so many times and do the right thing.”

She added: “There is a right way and a wrong way to lose weight. And I am now convinced that starving yourself and utilizing the Kimkins program in that manner is not the right way.”

Realizing there is still a need for a community for people who desire weight loss the healthy way, Christin said we should all “stand together and learn together” the “correct way to use a low-carb program to make each other healthy, to live a longer life for our loved ones and our families.”

Christin said she’ll be back to blogging again soon and appreciates the friendship and love that has been shown to her through this horrific experience.

“I love you and I’m here for you,” she concluded.

Visit Christin and learn more about her continuing low-carb weight loss journey at her “The Journey On” blog as well as the “Livin’ La Vida Low-Carb Discussion” forum. And if you would like to contact Woman’s World magazine to let them know about your concerns regarding the Kimkins program, their direct e-mail address is DearWW@aol.com. Perhaps if enough of us let them know about Christin and others who have suffered serious health consequences from being on Kimkins, then they may print a retraction.

Becky Continues

Just moments ago, Becky posted a continuation of Kimkins: The Perfect Storm.

Now, a look at the professional practices of Kimkins.

Kimmer first gave out her brand of diet advice (as well as hair care and skin care tips) for years on Low Carb Friends, which garnered both followers and foes. I am not sure when the idea of her own site first began in her mind, whether it was all a carefully-laid plan, or just an opportunity too good to pass up when it arose. Judging from her track record of not sticking very long with any one thing (whether it be school or work or a relationship), I would guess that it was the latter. My conjecture is that she joined the diet site in all sincerity, hoping to lose weight like anyone else. She probably learned some things and had some initial success, but then, being Kimmer, she just couldn’t help embellishing things a bit, highlighting her successes and ignoring her failings, amplifying it more and more, becoming more extreme over time, as it began to attract some attention. Gradually, the gap between her words and her actions widened, as she could not follow through with her knowledge and intentions, but could not allow herself to back down and admit it, either.

She may have done what many of us have done —- promised herself to get back on track tomorrow, next week, next month, try to be extra strict to make up for it, only to give in to her old ways again. Her real life wasn’t working for her at all — but online she could be the best possible version of herself, everything she every dreamed of, until perhaps she came to believe it herself. The attention and approbation were too addicting.

At some point, it seems, delusion reigned supreme, and there was no backing down. As her claims became more grandiose and her polarizing presence began to dominate and draw heat more and more at the LCF forum, another member, Catherine, approached her with the idea of an ebook and a website to sell it. (Read more here.) I think it was the brass ring, the golden goose, and Kimmer/Heidi grabbed at the opportunity for . Once that thought was there, I do believe Kimmer purposely aggravated her enemies and gathered her fans even more, setting the stage for her big exit. Soon, ‘Kimmer’ flounced off in a huff, and Kimkins.com was launched as a partnership between Heidi Diaz, supposed diet guru and Catherine McDonald, tech expert.

In the early days of the Kimkins website, Kimmer seemed to have it all — a successful diet plan, satisfied customers who were easy to please, low overhead, and a competent business partner who made her ideas work. Her departure from LCF calmed down hostilities quite a bit all around, and Kimmer was left to operate her own site in her own little corner of the internet with little interference. If she had made the right moves then, Heidi/Kimmer might possibly have been able to continue on course to a legitimate business success for quite some time to come. However, because Kimmer at her core is a fraud, it was inevitable that any enterprise built on that basis would soon begin to crumble.

Kimmer was not only a fraud in her own personal claims of large, rapid weight loss, but she soon began building the business of Kimkins around fraud at virtually every level — member service, marketing, and management.

~ Fraudulent Member Service: She lied to her members about the safety and efficacy of her diet plans, leading them to believe her plans were safely based on the recognized plans of doctors such as Dr. Atkins and Dr. Stillman, while continuing to push them ever farther away from the cautions and sensible limits of those plans. She assured members it was safe, because, after all, it had worked so well for her, or so she said. She also began to be less and less available to members, despite her promised member benefit of ‘personal coaching‘. She ignored or gave inadequate and misleading answers to valid member concerns. This was because she apparently preferred to spend her energies on marketing, to keep new paying customers coming in the front door while leaving the members mostly on their own to look out for one another.

~ Fraudulent Marketing: In her marketing campaign, she lied to prospective members by spamming Craigslist with fake listings to plug Kimkins, by posting phony ‘articles’ and answers and numerous blogs for Kimkins all over the internet under various names, by promoting Kimkins with false implied celebrity endorsements specifically to target teens, and primarily by posting numerous fraudulent ’success’ stories with ‘lifted’ and photoshopped ‘before’ and ‘after’ pictures. She also made numerous claims she had no proof of or right to make, in violation of FTC regulations.

~ Fraudulent Management: Heidi/Kimmer entered into partnership with Catherine originally under false pretenses, and continued to lie to her about many things, including the source of the ‘success stories‘. It also appears that Heidi skimmed a certain part of the gross proceeds from the partnership before profits were split, by funneling income to supposed affiliate accounts which actually led back to her. It is unclear whether proper legal or tax filings were ever made, though it does not appear they were.

In matters big and small, every bit of the Kimkins enterprise was fraught with deception. It was bound to catch up to her sooner or later.

Before too long, Catherine began to have concerns about Heidi’s integrity, and backed out of the partnership. At this point, Kimmer claims to have brought in 4 other partners to finance Catherine’s buyout, but this is highly doubtful. For one thing, one of the partners she claims to have brought in at that time is Heidi Diaz, but photographic and written evidence clearly shows that Kimmer herself is Heidi Diaz. (For example, Kimmer has always acknowledged that Catherine was her partner in the beginning, and Catherine signed the original partnership agreement with Heidi Diaz.) Other names mentioned as possible ‘partners’ include Dennis Sharp (her son), Vanessa Sharp and/or Romero (Vanessa Romero is her niece), Nicki or Nikki Sharp, and Tish Diaz. It is extremely unlikely that these relatives are actually working, decision-making partners as Kimmer leads people to believe. It is possible they put up some money so Heidi could buy out Catherine; it is possible she got money from them under some other pretext; it is very possible they know little or nothing, and she is just using their names to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise. Nicki and later Vanessa disappeared from the “Meet Your Team’ roster some time ago, so it is possible they were based on actual people who became aware of the use of their identities, and protested it.

I have seen various things supposedly ‘written’ by some of those names and now Brad Johnson. To me. they all have the same unmistakable writing style, and are all almost surely written by Heidi herself, who freely admits to writing frequently under various male and female names. No one has ever spoken or communicated with any of them, except through Kimmer, and she trotted out the same excuses over and over as to why they were not available. (Usually they were ‘called out of town to deal with a sick father’.) Kimmer herself often spoke to me of doing all affiliate payouts and answering affiliate questions, even though she supposedly had an affiliate manager. These ‘partners’ were probably a construct that Kimmer used to pass blame, as when criticizing someone (’the partners don’t think they are getting their money’s worth’) or floating unpopular ideas (’the partners are pressing to make the fees monthly vs. lifetime membership’, which she brought up to me several times), as well as to provide other ‘identities’ under which to hide income.

In fact, there is no good reason to assume that the entity of Kimkins is anything other than Heidi Diaz sitting at her computer pumping out fraudulent marketing and picking up funds from Paypal and the mailbox, with a tech guy or two working remotely and unaware of the real situation, and paid and unpaid admins and members doing the heavy lifting on the site.

The best of businesses, with a solid business plan and an experienced team of managers would have been hard pressed to absorb the massive explosion of growth that occurred with the Woman’s World magazine feature. Kimmer only had forum helpers with very little knowledge of the true nature of the business; after all, she could not afford to bring anyone into her confidence, because she had too many secrets to hide. So, Heidi was suddenly way out of her league. She was gleeful at the funds rolling in, and foolishly thought she could continue to get away with the same type of scamming indefinitely. She was even in contact with Star magazine for another feature. Who knows? Maybe she even thought she could lose the weight, go legit, and make it work. However, her newfound success soon began to cave in on her.

Once thousands of new members hit the site and began trying to understand and apply the diet, the pressure was too heavy and all the cracks in the foundation soon began to appear. Without the personal mentoring and reinterpretation of the diets that new members had received before, the flaws and gaps in Heidi’s business soon became very evident. Many of those coming in with fresh eyes clearly saw the disparity between what was promised and what was delivered. Many clearly saw the dangers of the diet plans, all of them. Of the 40,000 or more who joined, most never even tried the diet once they actually saw it, and many who did try it did not stick with it long. Meanwhile, all the massive attention the diet was receiving reignited the souldering controversy that she thought she had left behind at LCF. However, Heidi did have two things working in her favor: the misplaced support of people like me who encouraged new members to stick with it, and the absolute sheer desperation of overweight people who had almost given up hope. For my own blindness and supporting role in it, I am sick-to-my-stomach sorry, and beg forgiveness.

At this time, Heidi seemed manic with delight over the income rolling in, and eager to spin off new ventures – more magazine and media features, merchandise, and related enterprises like the nutrition business she offered me. She could hardly be bothered with member support or complaints, and brushed off all concerns as something irrelevant, hardly worthy of her attention, even as worrisome side effects and evidences of her dishonesty mounted. Thus, the round of emails I pressed on her, with the results that we admins began to leave and express our concerns and experiences.

Our exits and warnings further precipitated a rash of blockings and bannings, as other members took up the banner and began speaking out. The business of Kimkins is now woefully in breech of the terms of their agreement with their members, who paid for lifetime membership in a healthy and safe diet followed by a woman who lost 198 lbs in 11 months and maintained it, only to be booted without warning when they complained that the diet was unsafe and the owner’s story was a lie. Members have had ‘privileges’ like private messaging and blog links in their signatures revoked, have been flamed and harangued mercilessly for any hint of breaking ranks,and have been banned without warning, redress, or refund on the vaguest pretext of ‘violation of Terms of Service’, which, like the diet plans and disclaimers, are an ever-moving target, conveniently changed after the fact.

Kimmer had it all — a million dollar website, a great staff, great member loyalty, and great future prospects. And due to great greed, arrogance, and dishonesty she threw it away.

Kimmer is now behaving like a rat backed into a corner, biting and snarling, while looking for a way of to escape unscathed. She is starting to meltdown, trying to cover her tracks and salvage what she can, leaving more of the running of things in the hands of unqualified admins. Perhaps she still thinks she can pull it off, or perhaps she is making her exit plans. As she continues to overestimate herself and underestimate her opponents, she will find, once again, that she has made a grave mistake in waiting too long.

Kimmer is a dangerous fraud, and the business of Kimkins is a dangerous fraud.

Both need to be stopped, and the sooner, the better.

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September 27, 2007 at 7:47 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 7:50 pm

Mimi

A note about the timeline … correct me if I’m wrong, but from all the digging that’s been done, Kimkins.com was set up BEFORE Heidi left LCF.

She had found LCF fertile ground for cultivating a crop of victims, but couldn’t harvest them until (according to the CreditBoard) her bankruptcy and other liens had “timed off.”

In the meantime, she was getting the website ready. When the time-off date had passed, that’s when she left LCF and started charging money for memberships.

This is, to the best of my knowledge, the REAL timeline.

September 27, 2007 at 8:01 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 8:10 pm

Becky/Littlebit

I believe that Kimkins.com as a domain name was registered in April. 2006, the big flail-up happened in late May or early June, with site launch very shortly after.

Catherine or Martin would know more.

September 27, 2007 at 8:21 pm

Mimi

Yes I’m confusing registration of the domain, with opening the board. What I mean is, basically, she was laying the groundwork for the board, preparing, and building up to her dramatic exit from LCF.

As one of the other commenters has stated elsewhere, Heidi isn’t mentally ill — she’s simply evil, and she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s fully aware of her intentions and her actions, fully capable of outcome-based behaviors.

September 27, 2007 at 9:54 pm

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Becky (assuming you come back to this blog), after the WW article, was it ever *confirmed* that over 35,000 new members actually paid the life-time membership fee? Confirmed by anyone other than Kimmer, I should say. Did you have access to those types of figures, names and numbers?

I was a member there at the time and, yes, it was mind-boggling with the flood of new members, but close to 40,000? I’ve always had trouble believing that figure. If that’s really the case, the vast majority of them obviously didn’t stick around to post in the forums.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t doubt YOU, Becky. But I can see how Kimmer would exaggerate the numbers just, as you said, “to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise.”

If the 40,000 figure is anywhere close to accurate … where are all these people? Those of us protesting here, at ALC, LCF, etc. are just the tip of the iceberg.

September 27, 2007 at 10:19 pm

Princess Dieter

It would be interesting to know when Kimmer-Heidi’s son turned legal age. Maybe THAT is what she was waiting for, since she put the site under his name. If the son turned 18 Spring of 2006, that would definitely put the motivation there…

(Can a 17 yeard old have a site registered under their name? I have no idea.)

And I totally believe she’d be going to LCF to gather her following before heading off.

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 10:45 pm

antikimkins

Kimmer certainly doesn’t appear to be a millionaire, in fact, she still seems to have money problems. I wonder out of the thousands who joined after the WW article, how many requested refunds within that 24 hour block?

September 27, 2007 at 11:20 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Kimmer canceled the 24- hour refund policy prior to the magazine feature. She did give out some refunds from those who joined and cited kidney problems or other medical concerns, once they saw the diet, but very few.

I cannot prove those figures are accurate, but i would not be at all surprised if the membership numbers are not actually higher now.

I know how busy i was. I saw the posts rolling through there. At one time, I had access to member service emails, and she was getting literally thousands of emails a day. I was getting scores of PMs, as were many others. We had thousands online at a time, and hundreds posting intros and joining new challenges every day.

She also became suddenly very elated, and became much more willing to pay for help.

I imagine many signed up, looked at the diets, and left quickly, chalking it up to an expensive lesson learned. Most were not a typical online crowd. Quite a few lurked, but did not post. Many posted, but have dropped out now. Many have gotten banned, or cowed into silence. Still, they paid, and she kept the money.

She only took the membership and online numbers down when she began drawing too much fire from LCF, Slamboard, etc. I believe she wanted to reduce speculation into her gross profits once people started doing the math.

I have heard people say that they would look online and not see many people there back then. Perhaps they were not looking in the right places, because that was not at all the case then. The way the site was set up, the number reflected on a forum index page did not reflect the number actually viewing threads within that particular forum, but only the number of people looking at that index page at the time. You would have to open each thread to get a full count.

Only she knows for sure what her full intake was, but I have reason to believe it was quite high.

She told me she had only put back into the business what was absolutely necessary, and had the rest invested at a 10% rate of return. Who knows if that is true?

I do not believe she planned this out years in advance. I think she posted at LCF first for ego and power, and only later for money. I just don’t see her as someone who can sustain hard work for long without some kind of a payoff, but rather as an opportunist. I could be wrong. Time will tell.

September 28, 2007 at 2:04 am

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Thank you, Becky, for that insight. I guess I’ve been hoping for lower numbers because that would mean fewer people were scammed, but it looks like she really was/is raking in the big bucks. Thanks again.

September 28, 2007 at 2:47 am

Dottie

Becky that’s very insightful. I also do not think that this giant “venture” was on her mind when she started out on LCF. Looking back on when she left, I really think she was planning on just getting $$ out of maybe a couple of dozen of her “fans” off LCF, then shutting the site down due to lack of funds (or hitting the members up for more $$ to “run” it).
I don’t really think she had any idea that it would take off in the big way that it did.

September 28, 2007 at 7:15 am

Princess Dieter

I totally believe there was a windfall from WW. That kind of coverage is sure to do that.

And I’m sure H/K knew to keep the money inflow quiet and the lifestyle discreet so as to keep all sorts off her back. Spending oodles would have drawn attention, I think. There is also the miser phenomenon where accumulating the money is the kick, not spending it. In fact, spending it reduces the pleasure of actually having a hoard.

Even if it’s half the reported 40K, that’s a lot of mookah going mostly to ONE woman who is hardly accountable. She got the Paypal and the checks. Why should she be truthful about how much when she’s not truthful about the rest?

And if she can offer Christian a car, then 100K for an Oprah brass ring, trust me, that means she had to have a nice, tidy reserve.

It would only have taken 10K members after WW to get 600K. And if that’s not reported or paid taxes on, that’s a nice chunk for any “disabled” person on government dole.

Didn’t someone say that the son bragged mom had a million in Paypal? (Can’t verify where that came from. Just remember reading it.)

The Princess

September 28, 2007 at 8:31 am

Sherrie

I think you’re right Becky.

September 30, 2007 at 8:12 pm

Peaches12

Why did all the admin. wait until the same time to quit. If you knew the diet was dangerous why did you continue to state otherwise, was it just the money that kept you going. I’m so confused, I continue to do Kimkins but with a higher fat intake since my body stalled and the increase intake helped it to lose quicker. How could so many been individual’s lifes have been put in jeopardy for merely a paycheck. Can you answer that, Becky?

Kimkins is Toxic

The Kimkins forums can only, at this point in time, be called toxic.

Last night’s display of unbridled rage underscored the growing anger Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) feels as the truth is seeping out for all to see. In what many speculate was a drunken tear by Kimmer, under the guise of a new user name, members were given front row seats to really see how the once supportive forum is damaged beyond repair, how the environment reeks with hate toward anyone speaking the truth, including those members who remain within the site.

Members who paid for membership, who paid for access, who paid for a supportive environment online are finding themselves in the crosshairs; targets to be attacked at any hint they question the plans, the founder or their own experience within the forums. Members asking questions or offering up suggestions for improvement are quickly derided, dismissed and declared unworthy to be among the true believers, told to leave and go elsewhere if they won’t behave and blindly regurgitate the party-line.

When a member asked about calorie limits, Wonderwoman replied,

What limits? What are you talking about? Why not call your doctor if you’re so scared? Or if you’re not doing Kimkins then go away?

My cousin had RouxY gastric reconstruction for obesity and she ate less than anybody here. What’s the danger? What are you afraid of? If you do Weight Watchers with frozen tv dinners you’re healthy? Aren’t they loaded to the gills with carbs? Yeah. Nutritious.

When another member openly suggested a listing of potential health risks and side effects for new members, after reading Deni’s blog entry, her intentions were questioned by admin tarvosK,

I would like to ask the original poster what the purpose of posting this blog entry was? Is there some reason for posting yet more negativity about the plan?

Did this person have success on the plan? It appears so and then they left for whatever reason, as is their right. However I have to wonder about people that involve themselves in something like KK and then when they have gotten the results they wanted, go running off and start bashing it to the rest of the world. It seems to me that there is just something very odd about that, but then I have never been one to really follow the pack that much anyway, so I won’t be running off anywhere to tell people how evil and life threatening this plan is.

Notice tarvosK avoids the issue, potential health risks, and focuses back to fast weight loss as ideal and suggests those who have fled the site and are speaking out have alterior motives, according to him, there is no danger with Kimkins diet plans.

When yet another member dared to suggest posting potential side effects for new members to read and understand, admin Tippytoes stepped to admonish her with,

I am curious since I see you posting the possibility of negativity and doubt across the boards today… What does YOUR Doctor think?

Another member had the audacity to ask about carbohydrate intake after attending a class on nutrition, being told women require 100 grams of carbohydrate each day. Rather than explain gluconeogenesis or point her to articles about meeting glucose requirements while following a low carb diet, she was told by Wonderwoman,

If you’re in danger from not eating carbs, shouldn’t be you at the emergency room? On life support? Or crawling along in weight loss because you really wanted to add carbs and have given yourself permission under a self induced guise? Sign up for the group “yeah I did Kimkins and didn’t lose”.

These examples, and others we could provide, clearly highlight how dysfunctional the site now. Such abuse of members is not only tolerated, but expected; not only from admins, but between member to member.

It is a place where only those emotionally damaged souls really want to stay and want to remain so they can continue to feed on the punishment.

No emotionally healthy person will tolerate such abuse daily, nor willingly continue to remain so they can witness such abuse directed at others. Within Kimkins there is an illness, a sickness so prevalent and contagious, so toxic; an emotional dysfunction so damaging it makes the diet plans look sane.

Christin: Kimkins was “wrong way” to lose weight

In a no holds barred reversal of her previous interview at Weight Loss Tips, Christin has clearly articulated her misgivings about the Kimkins diet and warns others not to follow the very low calorie regiment if they value their long-term health.

“Weight loss is about health, not speed. If I had it to do over again, I know now that while quick weight loss is desirable and attractive, it is not necessarily the best for my body.”

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September 26, 2007 at 10:57 pm

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Kimkins Members Being Watched

We’ve previously reported on the spyware installed on member computers when they log in to the Kimkins website. While its existence has been downplayed and chalked up to other sites utilizing similar tracking technologies, we learned this weekend that Kimkins members are also admittedly followed around online, to other forums to see what they’re saying outside the Kimkins website!

As much was admitted by a newer admin, SingingLass, this weekend when a Kimkins member had her personal journal suddenly deleted without warning. The furor caused by that incident is already detailed on the blog The TRUTH Starts Here.

Here, we’d like to point to one paragraph, penned by SingingLass, that should send chills down the spine of any Kimkins members remaining,

The journal in question, various posts made across the boards, and that individual’s signature were being utilized to bring in/ link to the negativity elsewhere. They knew full well what they were doing and why things had to be removed….as was seen in their boasts elsewhere. The policy regarding such behavior has been made pretty clear, both by Kimmer, and the requests of the members here wanting to be able to focus on their weight loss without the interuption of those who participate only to cause problems or report to other sites.

Not only does SingingLass appear to believe she can know another’s intent, but she clearly admits that the member whose entire personal journal was deleted was being watched elsewhere online, outside the Kimkins website!

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September 17, 2007 at 7:49 pm

Ban ME Kimmer!

WTF!

Who the hell are they to watch what any paying member of their site does OUTSIDE the kk website?

September 17, 2007 at 7:49 pm

Josh

That’s whacked!

September 17, 2007 at 7:54 pm

Maggie

WOWSERS!

An admin there actually admits they’re spying on their paying members when they’re at other forums online!

That is just disgusting!!!!!

September 17, 2007 at 7:57 pm

theTRUTH

Don’t forget these parts:

“What many of you apparently did not see was that individual running through all the boards, making post after post that was direct problem causing. Following that, they went to another site where they were congratulated by many for their actions, and bragging and admitance to what they did…. and why…. was presented.”

and

“By all means feel free to participate on other message boards, websites, communities…there is no reason at all to not be able to do so. I myself am involved on many—spanning different kinds of subject matters. The problem is only with a small group of people bouncing site to site, publically gloating and bragging about activities being done specifically to cause harm and distruption on this site and for the members here. I imagine you can understand why we would want to discourage that.”

Also, a former admin asked openly in her lowcarbdiscussion journal if someone could check to see if her signature still had a link the her blog. I checked, and it did. The next morning, said link was gone, (after being there for weeks after her banning). So, yes, her flying monkeys are reading all the blog posts, comments, and discussion boards.

September 17, 2007 at 8:43 pm

Scoble

Let’s not forget now, (as I learned from reading “Kimmer’s” PMs to her pet admin SingingLass) SingingLass is a psychic of sorts and she might just be able to intuit where everyone is going on the internet! ;^)

September 17, 2007 at 8:59 pm

LCer

That’s downright disturbing that they think it’s OK to follow members around to see what they’re doing on other forums.

SingingLass should be ashamed of herself!

September 17, 2007 at 9:15 pm

Concerned about kimkins

I still think Singing lass is Heidi’s other persona. She clearly has multiples. If not singing lass needs a good wake up smack. Sheesh!

September 17, 2007 at 10:04 pm

Julie

No Singinglass is not Heidi. More’s the pity.

For the record, I was not “boasting” all over creation about putting links in my signature and blog. I was not out to cause trouble. However, when I posted those links in response to a question about what happened to Deni, Christin, and Becky, my post was deleted. Heidi created the “Kimmer Chatter” forum ostensibly so people could talk about the controversy in that one place. I realized when my post was deleted that the admins and Heidi had no intention of allowing any meaningful discussion of the issues. Only at that point did I provide links in my signature and journal.

September 17, 2007 at 10:11 pm

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September 17, 2007 at 10:49 pm

ghoov

Julie, most likely she wanted everything discussed in one place is so she could more easily find anything she deemed offensive. A Forum can become a large place and it’s hard to read every single post.

In other words, she wanted to make her censorship more convenient.

September 18, 2007 at 1:41 pm

theTRUTH

Yeah, Singing(L)ass is not Heidi. Just her “mini-me”. I hear she and Tippy are going to have a pay-per-view catfight for Kimmer’s love, to benefit Kimmer’s foster kids…

The first member quoted in my blog post has also now been banned.

September 18, 2007 at 2:04 pm

anonymous

Newest Admin speaks up in the chatter.. with foul language and all!!!

“Perhaps you two can explain something to me, did you pay the subscription price for this site? I believe you did. Did you receive what you paid for? Again I believe you did ( you paid for a diet plan and got 5 of them along with a wealth of other material). If your not satisfied with the plan, then your free to leave at any time you wish. However understand that if you continue to post negative comments about the plan on these forums you run the risk of being banned from them.

Now of course there is a difference between posting an occasional concern or vent over some aspect of the plan your having trouble with or don’t like and posting blatantly negative comments about either the plan or kimmer. Personally I don’t give a damn what you think about the plan, and if you can’t be supportive I would happily ban you but that’s not my job here. I am here to ensure that negativity is kept to a minimum.”

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Can you tell us which admin wrote those words?

Wait, as the Church Lady on Saturady Night Live would say, “Nevermind”

September 18, 2007 at 3:19 pm

Kim

Negativity kept to a minimum? Um – isn’t that post kind of negative in itself?

Geez – reading it kind of took me back to grade school with the nuns waving their finger in my face telling me that good little catholic girls didn’t say anything bad about other people.

September 18, 2007 at 3:50 pm

theTRUTH

I have blogged the posts referenced by anonymous above, if you want to read the whole thing.

September 18, 2007 at 4:39 pm

theTRUTH

http://thetruthinhiding.blogspot.com/2007/09/new-admin-competes-for-kimmers.html

Kimkins Dangers Reachs Out…

On Saturday, Kimkins Dangers reached out in a post to current staff, admins and members. It is an open letter worth repeating!

Dear Kimkins Staff, Forum Admins, Affiliates and Members,

Much has happened to Kimkins over the course of the last month, none of it good. Many loved and well respected members have fled the scene, Becky, Christin and Deni among them. All of them had their reasons and many of their reasons were the same. Please click on each name to read their own accounts of their time at Kimkins. Really. Read them. These are the stories of three women who had cheered for Kimmer and Kimkins for a long time. They had promoted the diet to their friends and others. They worked very closely with Kimmer to forge the foundations of the plan that you are now following and promoting to others. You need to understand why they left. They are not “haters”. They are not “jealous”. They are not Kimmer’s ex-business partner (and neither are we, fyi.). They truly believed in Kimkins and in Kimmer and you owe it to yourself to find out why they changed their minds.

In case you haven’t noticed, there has been a mass exodus of Kimkins members recently. Some of them voluntary, but many were banned for airing their opinions or asking questions that were uncomfortable for Kimmer. They are also not haters, nor are they jealous. They were paid, lifetime members that had concerns that Kimmer would not answer. They wanted to know, from Kimmer’s own words, if the bloggers and forum posts about Kimkins were true. They wanted to know if those pictures posted on slamboard really are of Kimmer now. They just wanted to know. Instead of answers, they were banned from accessing the site that they paid for. Why is that?

One of the new admins is now posting stories that this entire mess was begun by Catherine, Kimmer’s ex-business partner. We assure you that is not the case. We do not know Catherine, have never exchanged a single email with her or have had any contact with her at all. We know of her story, but that is it. We here at Kimkins Dangers are not jealous and we are not haters.

We are very worried about everyone that is on the Kimkins diet plans. We are worried about your health first and foremost, for even though you may not believe that the diet can be dangerous, there is ample information that says otherwise. Information that comes not from personal experience, though that is also available, but from medical studies, peer reviewed case histories and the like. Real, factual, honest evidence, not supposition and opinion.

We are also concerned for those Kimkins members, staff, admins and affiliates for the possible legal liability that they may soon face. The lawyer that is spearheading the class action lawsuit has now confirmed his involvement and has been sent reams of information and evidence pertaining to the Kimkins website, it’s owner and it’s staff.

We know that the California Office of the Foster Care Ombudsman is actively investigating the situation, specifically as it pertains to Heidi’s claims of foster children in her care and the subsequent fundraiser that ensued. The same member that began that fundraiser is now asking other members to partake in yet another fundraiser, though this time for diabetes, allegedly.

Other agencies, local, state and federal are likely to become involved in the near future. This again is not simply opinion, we state this as fact. We will not say anything more on this at this particular time to protect the parties involved and the work that is being done. But be assured, the work IS being done.

If you have been contemplating leaving the sinking ship that is Kimkins, now would be the time. We have read all of the excuses, the ones that say that it does not matter if Kimmer weighs 300 pounds or more, the ones that say it doesn’t matter if she’s lied about this, that or any other thing, the ones that insist the diet is safe and healthy, even the ones that say they aren’t doing the diet, but want to remain for the friendship and camaraderie of the forums. Whatever the reason, understand that the window of opportunity is closing and the time to leave is now.

It matters greatly that Kimmer weighs 300 pounds or more. She sold her plan based on her own claims of having lost 198 pounds in 11 months. This was not true. False claims have crippled companies much larger than Kimkins and they will bring Kimkins to it’s knees as well.

It matters greatly that Kimmer has lied about this, that and the other thing. The list of her lies is very long and growing every day. Integrity is something you should place a very high value on, not eschew in favor of a “quick fix” to your weight issue.

For those who are simply staying for the friendship and the forums, there are many other places you can go where you will be welcomed and supported, yes, even LCF. Active-LowCarber forums, Jimmy Moore’s forums, Amy/Curlygirl’s website, etc., etc. Please consider joining one of these communities as you will find many other ex-kimkins members there as well.

When Kimmer states that there is nothing more dangerous than being overweight, understand that this is not true. Read the stories of those who have suffered health problems as a result of following Kimmer’s diet plans here. Read the medical evidence that shows clearly why diets such as Kimkins are truly dangerous, not only in the short term, but also in the long term. You may not have any symptoms right now, but continue along that dangerous path, and you will very likely end up far worse off than you are now. Please do your research. Your health is not worth wasting simply to lose weight faster.

Many people say “but the diet works for me!” Well, of course it does, for awhile. Anyone that doesn’t eat more than 500-800 calories a day will lose weight, for awhile. They will see the scale dropping quickly, for awhile. They will slowly begin to see other problems cropping up. Hair loss, amenorrhea, dizziness, fainting, heart palpitations and other symptoms of malnutrition and dangerously rapid weight loss. Crack cocaine makes people lose weight quickly too, but you wouldn’t use that, would you?

Please, consider the information that is presented all over the web. Read the blogs. Read the forums. Do the research and discovered for yourself the truth that you so desperately need to know. Open your eyes and you will see.

Please do it now before it’s too late.

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September 17, 2007 at 6:30 pm

theTRUTH

Crack makes you lose weight quickly? Kimmer! What a great Idea! You can add a 6th option to Kimkins and make another boatload!

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September 18, 2007 at 6:03 pm

OddManOut

Have there been any responses from the current staff? I don’t expect them to speak out since they’re taking the lead from the boss herself, but there’s always a chance that one of them will break radio silence (and probably get banned haha).

Getting to Know Tippy Toes

One of the newest admins at Kimkins is Jeannie Baitinger, aka ‘Tippy Toes’ in the Kimkins forums and Low Carb Friends forums. For the purpose of keeping things simple here, we’ll refer to her as ‘Tippy’ throughout.

Tippy joined Low Carb Friends back in April 2004 when she started a low carbohydrate diet (Atkins) and weighed 263 pounds. Since that time she’s admittedly struggled to lose the weight desired and declared herself at goal on September 8, 2006 after losing 100 pounds. In the last year she’s maintained her weight between 150 and 155 pounds, alternating between Atkins and Kimkins. Why we make this an issue is that she recently wrote a positive 5 star review at the BBB for Kimkins, on September 7, 2007,

This is the BEST weight loss website I have been to yet! Thanks to Kimkins.com I have lost 112 lbs, have never been sick, got off blood pressure and cholesterol meds and I feel terrific! I have NEVER experienced anything but positive help from the site and I was NEVER told to use laxitives OR lower calories–ever.I cannot say enough good things about the website. I tried other weight loss plans and they did not work but that Kimkins sure did! And I have medical records and pictures to prove it. Just ask me for them.

Within the Low Carb Friends postings she’s made, it’s clear she did not follow Kimkins exclusively.
In fact, through her own posts at Low Carb Friends, we learn she lost 47 pounds following Atkins, stalled for six months, moved to South Beach, then Eat Fat Get Thin, then a Fruit Rotation regiment, then Kimkins, and then finally a rotation of Atkins and Kimkins.

Yet, in the above review she attributes her entire weight loss to Kimkins. This may well be because she was the featured weight loss success recently in the Kimkins newsletter (issue 20). In that feature she states she started with Atkins and then found Kimkins when her weight loss stalled, she was frustrated and “starving and felt terrible…I was desperate.” In that feature she also willingly states she alternates between Kimkins and Atkins. This fact is curious given Kimmer’s (Heidi Diaz) disdain for Atkins and its allowance for higher fat meats and dairy. When we review the situation, it is clearer why Kimmer is open to Tippy saying many of the things she does in her success story. Kimmer is losing staff left and right and needs to replace staffers fleeing her company and site. She knows one thing about Tippy, and that’s her long standing desire to be an Admin at Low Carb Friends, a position she is now more than willing to extend to Tippy now that she, Kimmer, is desperate.We recently learned that over the years Tippy has long desired a position of Admin at Low Carb Friends and has made this desire known to many close to her, including Kimmer prior to her departure from that forum.

Last year Tippy stirred up things on a weight loss challenge thread on Low Carb Friends by being very critical of the Low Carb Friends admins at the time. She made it known she believed she was qualified to be an Admin and when a position as one was not offered, she started passing along private information about the Low Carb Friends admins behind the scenes in emails and Private Messages in an attempt to turn them on each other. In those communications we are told she alluded to questionable behavior by the Low Carb Friends Admins at a pig roast in Tennessee she attended, allegations we will not detail here, but suffice to say included implications of inpropriety between Admins whom were not married to each other.

An attention junkie like Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) she spent months attempting to garner a position of Admin within Low Carb Friends to no avail, but her desire to be one continued.

As soon as Kimmer offered an Admin position to Tippy, she jumped at it and quickly told her friends, expressing her delight at the opportunity. We’re told she said she was thrilled by the “authority” Kimmer entrusted her with and also expressed a grand plan to completely revamp the Kimkins diet plans into something she believed would be healthier and much less objectionable to those concerned over the safety of the plans as currently written.

May we remind her she need only look as far as Becky to see such changes will not be tolerated by Kimmer. Read Becky’s Reasonable Appeal to make changes and Kimmer’s reply point by point.

What is more disturbing than her less than accurate BBB review however, is that she’s taken to doing Kimmer’s biding on Low Carb Friends. In a very recent post there, she laid the groundwork to instill doubts in the minds of those concerned about Kimkins and Kimmer by questioning not only the motivation of those engaging on the Facination thread, but also attempted to lay blame for the entire situation on one individual, former business partner Catherine (whose husband is releasing details of that partnership at Slamboard).

Her post, titled Are We Being Used, includes the following,

Just a thought. Notice the person who started this thread is a junior member (meaning newly registered) and does not continue to post? Notice so many junior members coming in now? It is easy to assume they are from Kimkins site BUT I wonder about the truth in that assumption for many reasons. One, I recall Catherine telling X LCF members how easily identity can change so they could come back without admins knowing it was them… Cutie–remember that? Two, I notice the junior members seem computer savvy enough to post info and pics I would not have a clue about myself… Now I am not saying every single junior member here is ficticious. But I think many may be. Tom, can you check out this possibility?Is it possible this whole thing has been created by the ex biz partner, who is clearly mad as heck? Also, keep in mind it is the same creator of slamboards and…perhaps Ducky? Oddly enough, Catherine admits it was her idea to start a website for Kimkins–not Kimmers. So I don’t think Kimmer spent countless hours here plotting but I think Catherine did. Also, Catherine just thought Kimkins was a wonderful plan and fully endorsed and followed it, according to her. Until the partnership disolved, that is. Now it can kill you…WTH?

And the Kimkins survivors blogs… Are they real? How do we know? And the 14 year old–was that real?
The threats to anyone who is a moderator for her site–threats of fraud and lawsuits… A bully tactic for sure to intimidate them into walking out. The claims of KimATC being 50 lbs over weight…How rude was that, asking her how that Kimkins diet was working out? In fact, that statement points that Kimkins doesn’t work and we have established it does. We all have weight problems which is why we diet. The pressure is on–but by whom? The reasons seem pretty obvious.

Don’t get me wrong. I KNOW there are some of those people here in a genuine manner. I know a couple of you from her site and I know you had concerns (even if you are ALL at goal now thanks to her diet). I do not agree with cutting calories further in the event of a stall either. But perhaps Kimmer was in the learning process herself and it was a bad decision, or mistake. And maybe Kimmer did gain weight back and won’t tell. Take a good look around this site. How many people have gained their weight back and refuse to remove the skinny avitor pics and change stats accordingly? I think many of us are guilty for that.

Are we all puppets on a string being manipulated by a raging X partner?

We know in the past Kimmer has taken to manipulating situations to motivate individuals to do things they might not do on their own. An example of such behaviour in the past is the January 2007 blog by Jimmy Moore, where he attacked Low Carb Friends and did so in a scathing and vicious manner. He’s since retracted that post, but our memory is long here and we’ve been told that Kimmer’s input was indeed the impetus for that post.

It’s interesting that many of the points Tippy brought to her post at Low Carb Friends are now the same points Kimmer is trying deperately to convince her members of within the Kimkins forums. It appears much of Tippy’s post contents were scripted by Kimmer. Tippy seems unaware of the manipulative instincts of Kimmer and may not realize how she too is now being used by her as a means to an end.We ask this, Tippy how could you associate yourself with Kimmer given all the facts now in the public view?

EDITED TO ADD
We’d like to remind readers that this is the same Tippy Toes who organized the fundraiser for Kimmer’s (Heidi Diaz) phantom foster children last summer. Tippy accepted the position of Admin after revelation of the fact Heidi Diaz has no foster children and has not had foster children in her care since at least 2000.

Bye-Bye KimATC

After we provided some background details on one Kimkins staffer, KimATC, she quickly fled into the confines of the Kimkins website, leaving her friends at Low Carb Friends.

Guess what Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will wake up to learn?

Today, in a move calculated to ensure some readers saw it before it is deleted, she posted her goodbye to members.

Bye-Bye KimATC!

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September 10, 2007 at 1:44 pm

kimatc

Okay enough is enough. I did NOT stop posting at LCF because of Kimmer – it never had ANYTHING to do with her. I stopped posting at LCF because someone I thought was a good friend posted personal and private information that was only shared in an email. An unknown blogger (I think you are “RightNow” at LCF right?) doesn’t have that kind of power.

September 10, 2007 at 1:45 pm

kimatc

and you will delete my name out of your search word list

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You were a legitimate employee of Kimkins, therefore a valid search term here as we profiled your position and relationship to the Kimkins website. Sorry, no can do!

September 10, 2007 at 3:29 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Kim I would assume since you are a “certified trainer” you would not condone a program that boasts the ability to lose mass amounts of weight with no exercise. That’s just my thought on it though. AND her name is HEIDI! But good job for leaving non the less.

September 10, 2007 at 3:55 pm

Chimp

KimATC is a victim!

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 3:59 pm

Kimkins Dangers

We are hearing that KimATC is in fact banned from the Kimkins website. Is this true?

September 10, 2007 at 4:12 pm

Chimp

I think so. It’s posted here.

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 4:36 pm

flowerpower

According to the thread Chimp posted, KimATC is blaming me for information posted about her. If anyone knows why, I’d love to hear it. What did the author of this blog ever get from me? I don’t even know who this author is? I would have guessed Tooter, but it doesn’t matter.

My concern for KimATC all along was the fact that I believed Kimmer was taking advantage of her. I posted about that quite a few times on the fascination thread and elsewhere on LCF.

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We will clarify what we can. While we will not divulge our source, we can assure you our original information on the issue did not originate from Flowerpower or someone named Tooter.

September 10, 2007 at 4:46 pm

OddManOut

Ducky you said you’d remove it.

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/getting-to-know-you-kimatc/

August 24th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

Maggie
Ducky, if KimATC disassociated with Kimkins and quit her staff position, would you remove this post about her?

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While she remains on staff and promoted as such, she remains part of the Kimkins team, thus this post shall remain. If she leaves Kimkins and is no longer on staff and is removed from the Kimkins team page, and no longer is providing advice within the Kimkins forums, then yes, this post shall be removed since she is no longer associated with Kimkins.

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That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.

September 10, 2007 at 5:17 pm

OddManOut

There was no time limit in your promise.

September 11, 2007 at 3:13 am

concerned

[i]That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.[/i]

Wow… I totally support your effort to stop Heidi/Kimmer/Kimkins, but it seems a bit vindictive to continue to publicly scrutinize KimATC by continuing to post her profile after she has resigned.

How does continuing to embarrass KimATC help the effort to stop Kimmer?

September 11, 2007 at 5:42 pm

WOW

Ducky, I was a staunch supporter of yours, but now I realize that you are a liar, you never gave Kim a time line, ever. You are a liar and no better then Kimmer. Learn to keep your word and do the right thing.

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How we feel about this situation: Her departure carried no remorse for association with Kimmer/Heidi and made no attempt to disassociate from Kimkins and Kimmer. She may regret her association with the site and the woman, but she has no clearly stated such in any of her posts on various forums since she left. As we said before, a day late and a dollar short.

That said, we also must point out something we were not aware of at the time when we made our statement. Due to KimATC being a paid staffer, we cannot expunge material which may be relevant in an investigation given what is now known. We would like to be able to keep our word, even though we do feel her actions do not warrant such, but cannot at this time due to legal implications. Destruction of evidence does carry penalty and we are not willing to destroy materials potentially relevant to an investigation. As we noted, we DID remove her children’s names from the original article posted.

Thank you for your understanding.

September 11, 2007 at 6:20 pm

KimATC

Hey cut Ducky some slack. I have shared a lot of private emails with Becky and Christin and others. A small amount on a public board. But the biggest thing I learned from Ducky is NOT to post anything personal on the web. You just never know who is reading it, copying it, and posting it elsewhere.

Just think of the irony of this, changing the “terms” afterwards sounds kind of like changing a TOS after one has already agreed to it.

I appreciate the above comments, I really do. But this is Ducky’s blog and he/she can do as he/she sees fit. So, let’s just move on please I believe he has more current and relevant things to deal with.

September 11, 2007 at 6:23 pm

WOW

Ok, lets move on, cut some slack, your right! Ducky is simply a liar. Heidi is simply a liar. I think Kimmer feels she has more important things to do as well

September 11, 2007 at 8:07 pm

Disappointed

Ducky, since I have been searching for and have yet to find anything to contradict this as of today:

“Her departure carried no
remorse for association
with Kimmer/Heidi and
made no attempt to
disassociate from Kimkins
and Kimmer.
She may regret her association
with the site and the woman,
but she has no clearly stated
such in any of her posts on
various forums since she left.”

I agree that that is very disconcerting.

Perhaps it would be wise to avoid making any further promises that an entry will be removed if they leave, unless you are satisfied with them appearing to leave for that reason instead of conviction.

Previous Admin Amy Sets Up Own Forum

Amy, a former Kimkins Admin and author of Eating Low with Amy, has launched her own support forum online, the Eating Low with Amy Forum. The new FREE forum is sure to become a home to many fleeing the sinking ship of the SS Kimkins.

We’re fairly certain that Amy is next to be banned (if not already) by Kimmer (Heidi Diaz).

Bye-Bye Amy!

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September 10, 2007 at 1:21 pm

well

if you check out the exercise area at kimkins you will see that Kim has left as well