Let’s Review Important Information

5 10 2007

Since July we’ve posted about the dangers of the Kimkins diet and the deceptions used in selling it.

For those just tuning in, please take a few moments to read some of our most important posts:

Information about the class action lawsuit is available here.

Information about requesting refunds at PayPal is available here.

A summary of the controversy is available on Wikipedia. (Wiki deleted the article)

UPDATE: Ducky is taking the weekend off to spend time with family and friends. For those new to our blog, please take some time this weekend to read our posts and understand why we feel it is important the truth about Kimkins and Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) be exposed. For those continuing along and keeping up, we’ll be back on Monday and hope you’ll take a breather this weekend too to relax and have some fun!

We will be moderating comments over the weekend, so if you leave a comment, it will be in the queue until we get to it as we have time throughout the weekend.

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October 5, 2007 at 2:06 pm

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October 5, 2007 at 2:28 pm

McLurkypants

After some back & forth over deletion attempts, I’ve gotten an article to stick on Wikipedia – all familiar with Wikipedia editing should feel free to hop over there and contribute! Kimkins Controversy on Wikipedia.

October 5, 2007 at 2:51 pm

Ducky Does a Recap « Kimkins Scam

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October 5, 2007 at 2:58 pm

BamaGal

Here is something else that needs addressing, the Ezine articles. I did a couple of blog posts about it. I still have not received any info from them. But they have addressed it in their own blog. Check out these links.

Ezine Articles « Kimkins Scam

EzineArticles Blog » Battles We Did Not Ask For

October 5, 2007 at 3:07 pm

captivated

mclurkypants – that is beautiful!

i can’t stop watching this story unfold. it’s like the OJ trial!

October 5, 2007 at 11:12 pm

Cryssi

*********for ducky**********

This was made by Gina for you over at LCF. These are the new badges we’re all sporting in leiu of the rubber ducks.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/9311882-post872.html

October 6, 2007 at 2:07 am

Susan

Looks like the Wiki article is down. I was really hoping to check it out, too!
Did anyone copy the Wiki article anywhere that can be read now?

October 6, 2007 at 2:58 am

Kimmer Is Busted

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 3:02 am

kim

Dude, go to LCF, they found the red dress.

October 6, 2007 at 3:02 am

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October 6, 2007 at 3:07 am

kkatastrophediet

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

red dress alert!

October 6, 2007 at 3:12 am

HoneyBee

The big fake picture source was found…Kimmer in the red dress goes by the name Lesya http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 3:47 am

Concerned about kimkins

Ducky Wake the hell up!!!!

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 3:53 am

BamaGal

The lady in the red dress as been found!!!

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 5:34 am

Laura

Here’s the Lady in Red:

Lesya

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=2

October 6, 2007 at 5:47 am

McLurkypants

Have you heard that the RED DRESS photo Kimmer presented as hers has been found on one of those Russian mail order bride sites by a woman named “Buzzybee” at LCF??

HERE she is!

October 6, 2007 at 5:48 am

McLurkypants

OK I don’t know if that link works?

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 8:30 am

Princess Dieter

The Red Dress has been found. 🙂 And Ducky missed it. Dang, Ducky.

But I’m sure by Monday, when you return, there will be all sorts of new reports about the Kimtanic.

Happy Weekend All. I feel sooooo good about that pic being found. YES!

The Princess

October 6, 2007 at 1:02 pm

Susan

Hmm, my post of last night is gone… Anyway, I had posted that the Wiki article is down. Anyone have a copy posted elsewhere that we can read?

October 6, 2007 at 1:13 pm

Princess Dieter

Yeah, it supersucks that they deleted it. McLurky had done a great job, lots of good links. I hope it’s reinstated.

The Princess

October 6, 2007 at 2:14 pm

Susan

PD, I know – I hope to see the Wiki article soon.
McLurky, any chance you kept a copy?
Wow! I wake up this morning to a Blizzard of Red Dresses! This is great.

October 6, 2007 at 3:11 pm

thatgirl

I can’t get into LCF right now. Grrrr. Internet page cannot be displyed. I wonder if Heidi was letting Brandon out his hacker hat on again.

October 6, 2007 at 4:42 pm

Susan

Yep, LCF boards appear to be down. I was able to go to LCD and to the main board page, but was unable to access specific links such as Stillmans etc.

Can’t wait to see what Darth Kimmer still has up her sleeve.

My prediction is her next spin will be to play her sympathy card. She will take a page from the Paris / Brittney playbook.

October 7, 2007 at 2:13 am

McLurkypants

Susan & Ducky, I am having to go thru the challenge procedure on Wikipedia (AGAIN). I have the support of the admins who deleted it the first time I put it up – we shall see what happens.

I AM SO PISSED that I didn’t save a copy of it! Others had gone on and edited & added so much stuff, it was really growing. I hope it will come back – I’ll spread the word when it does. Glad you appreciated it!

October 8, 2007 at 3:10 pm

theTRUTH

This is for the California attorney generals consumer complaint form.

http://ag.ca.gov/contact/complaint_form.php?cmplt=CL

December 27, 2007 at 4:57 pm

katinsac

Friends don’t let friends do Kimkins! Remember that cover girl on the WW Mag? Well, she learned the hard way about Kimkins and it’s dangers!! Read her blog and decide for yourself.

http://the-journey-on.blogspot.com/

December 27, 2007 at 9:43 pm

katinsac

Now that you know the Truth…Join the Lawsuit!!

http://kimkinslawsuit.wordpress.com/

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Look Familiar?

4 10 2007

That’s right, this is the photo used by Women’s World Magazine, and said to be a picture of Kim Drake (aka Kimmer, Heidi Diaz).

WOMEN’S WORLD PHOTOS

MATCH FOUND ONLINE:

The picture is from the site Hot Russian Brides, click here.

Her profile is user #169503 her name is Tatjana53 Hotrussianbrides Profile Page

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October 4, 2007 at 3:05 am

shelby

has this been sent to WW??

October 4, 2007 at 3:06 am

TerryC

I’m just chuckling to myself. Someone has been really busy. OK, now find red dress lady!

October 4, 2007 at 3:38 am

Karen

Have you seen the whole profile for this lady on the Russian Website?
Here is the link:

http://www.hotrussianbrides.com/profile/profile.aspx?toid=169503

Okay, NOW do people finally believe she has committed a fraud??? She sent in a pic of some Russian woman to a NATIONAL MAGAZINE!!

October 4, 2007 at 4:01 am

Michalle

This is almost too much!!! How depraved is this woman (Heidikin)??

Good job to the person(s) finding the truth about these photos!

October 4, 2007 at 4:21 am

ghoov

Sheesh! This just keeps getting creepier and creepier. I still think her “after” pic that turned out to be Jacklyn Smith tops them all LOL

October 4, 2007 at 5:47 am

Kimkins Success stories & photos « All about Kimkins & more

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October 4, 2007 at 6:18 am

Laura

We can all send it to WW. I’m sure they will be delighted to hear from all of us!

You can email it to them at DearWW@aol.com or wmnw@kable.com

Or send them a link to this blog on their customer service page:

https://www.kable.com/pub/wmnw/cs.asp

Or snail mail to:

Woman’s World
Editorial Department
270 Sylvan Avenue
Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632

Good job finding this one!

It’s just a matter of time until the identity of the Lady in Red is determined!

Keep digging!

October 4, 2007 at 10:09 am

Sue

I want to know too – has it been sent to WW? Who found the site?

October 4, 2007 at 10:12 am

Sue

I want to know if WW has been informed? My goodness – Kimmer is a Russian bride!!

October 4, 2007 at 10:15 am

CR

Whoever found that pic is damn good!

Heidi…foiled again.

Thank you 🙂

October 4, 2007 at 10:21 am

CR

What if Tatjana is using Heidi’s pic for her profile LMAO.

I’m sure that will be said.

October 4, 2007 at 11:14 am

Karen

Also, here is another FAKE before and after from Kimkins.

Here is the link to the Elena’s Models site:

http://www.elenasmodels.com/index.php?ap=905015

Here is the link to Kimmer’s before and after pics and story:

http://www.kimkins.com/component/option,com_cxportfolio/task,showdetails/id,4/Itemid,/

Here is her “Story”

Dina
Age: 27
Height: 5′ 6″
Starting Weight: 219
Final Weight: 122
Total Loss: 97
How Long: 6 months
97 Pounds Gone to a Size 3!
Hello, my name is Dina. All I can say is I’m glad I found Kimkins. Before I was so overweight and so unhappy. Every day seemed like a struggle. Even caring for my children was a chore because my knees and back hurt.

I work for a small accounting company and we moved to new offices. Of course we got new furniture, including desks and chairs. Can you imagine how I felt when I sat on the chair and it broke! The handle you can adjust up or down wouldn’t even work! The buyer apologized and said, “Oh, I’m sorry. They are guaranteed to hold up to 200 pounds. It must be defective.” Little did he know I weighed almost 230 pounds!

I know my husband found me unattractive. He didn’t really say anything bad but never anything good either. Finally I was tired of being fat. Tired of being tired. I found a blog that talked about a “Kimkins” diet and everybody was losing weight very fast. I never heard of Kimkins but the blog said it was an easy diet to follow. I had a new baby and needed something easy.

We don’t have a computer at home so I used the one at work during lunch. I looked at the diet rules and the food list. Then I read some [personal] journals and there were girls just like me. The same problems and sad about being overweight.

I decided I wanted to be a “Big Loser” too and started the diet the next day. It wasn’t hard, but I did have one cheat day on our anniversary. I didn’t lose that week which showed me I had to be serious if I wanted to lose fast.

Now I can hardly believe I lost almost 100 pounds! I wear a size 3! My husband can’t believe it either. Now he says many nice things! I feel so proud of myself these days.

All I can say is if you want a good diet then pick Kimkins. Two of the girls at work are trying it and one already reached goal but she didn’t have as much to lose. I’m proud of them and I’m proud of me!

October 4, 2007 at 11:25 am

WatchingfromHere

Nice work.

October 4, 2007 at 12:12 pm

Karen

Ducky please see this link at LCF!!! They have found lots of Kimmers “Success” stories on the Russian Bride site.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/9301845-post1850.html

October 4, 2007 at 12:14 pm

The Unblog » The real Woman in Red, it isn’t Heidi Diaz

[…] Who is the Woman in Red? It certainly isn’t Kimmer. Kimkins Exposed asked the question and answered it. Whoever Kimmer is, she is not a hot Russian bride. […]

October 4, 2007 at 12:35 pm

Kasey aka Harlow aka SinKitty

Now this is the icing on the cake. I always wondered who that lady was.

October 4, 2007 at 12:43 pm

theTRUTH

How does a Russian mail order bride end up with a national security clearance and still have time to found a diet website? I’m quacking up.

October 4, 2007 at 1:15 pm

finleysmom

I totally missed the Jacklyn Smith thing! Which picture is this??? LOL!

October 4, 2007 at 1:34 pm

Kim

I’d think WW has to do some sort of retraction at this point.

October 4, 2007 at 2:29 pm

finleysmom

You would think she wouldn’t be such a dumb @ss and at least stick to one after picture of herself. Its almost like she wanted to be caught. We all know those after pics were of different people. How stupid can you get!?

October 4, 2007 at 4:47 pm

Dottie

“October 4th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
theTRUTH
How does a Russian mail order bride end up with a national security clearance and still have time to found a diet website? I’m quacking up.”

Don’t forget all the while apparently volunteering at the Braille Institute, Moscow annex!

October 4, 2007 at 5:42 pm

More Faked Success Stories at Kimkins « Kimkins Exposed

[…] The photo used as ‘Kimmer’ (Kim Drake aka Heidi Diaz) for the Woman’s World article is found in this post. […]

October 4, 2007 at 5:53 pm

Peggy

Has anyone notified the Russian brides (or the Russian bride web site) that their photos have been used without their permission? Since this is clearly a case of copyright infringement, they should be able to file a DMCA notice with Kimkins.com, Kimkins.com’s web host and Women’s World.

October 4, 2007 at 7:04 pm

Stiff

Tracking down Heidi must be in everyone’s water, because last night before bed I decided to google and search every freaking red dress picture I could find for about two or three hours until my eyes started twitching 🙂

October 4, 2007 at 10:00 pm

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October 5, 2007 at 11:56 pm

finleysmom

Does anyone have info on the Jacklyn Smith picture?? Which one was it?





“Ask Kimmer” Locked Down

3 10 2007

As theTRUTH just posted, the ‘Ask Kimmer’ thread was just locked, no additional questions will be allowed on the thread.

Kimmer wrote:

Everybody, I am going to lock the “Ask Kimmer” thread. Part of the idea for the management group is “less Kimmer more Kimkins” and then I can focus on the behind-the-scenes stuff that we do.

Questions? Ask in Kimkins Cafe or Newbie Support. The admins are busy bees zooming around to answer as quick as they can.

Well, there goes another membership benefit, ‘direct access to Kimmer’ (Heidi Diaz).

This comes in the wake of eliminating the ‘Fasting & Detox’ forum, the pathetic attempt at an eBook (ePage anyone?) and other changes to promised ‘benefits’ of membership, such as access to a certified personal trainer.

Going somewhere Heidi?

——————-

If you have not yet watched the KTLA broadcast, you can watch the video here.  Tonight KTLA will broadcast part 2 at 10:00 PM PDT





Kimmer Plays it Cool

3 10 2007

This morning, after KTLA’s segment last night, featuring Kimkins as an ‘internet scam’, Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is downplaying the significance of the broadcast and remains calm and cool to members.

With no remorse or explanation about the broadcast, Kimmer is posting away in an attempt to quiet any questioning, and banning members who dare speak up.

On the thread ‘Ask Kimmer’ a member wrote:

Just want to publicly throw in my two cents about all the controversy swirling around us. I know you would get a lot of flack if you did this, Kimmer, but–I wouldn’t care a bit if you took out all the negative stuff. I think the time for reaction to and self-_expression_ regarding all the people leaving, the lawsuit, etc. needs to have run its course. Those of us who are trying to focus on the program keep running into all that “stuff” on just about every thread we turn to. Enough is enough!

Kimmer replied:

I know. We’re doing our best to keep it off the site. People who enjoy reading it can find it at 1,001 other places. Meanwhile, stay focused, do your work, let your body show you what it can do!

On another thread, Kimmer wrote:

Maybe I can shed some light?

The point of this website — the entire reason it exists — is to help people lose weight. When there’s interference with that intent, we take action. Whether that is banning troublemakers or removing elements that distract from our purpose, we do it.

Personally I don’t like negativity on this site. I’ve said it a thousand times and I still mean it. If anyone is unhappy or disillusioned, there are a ton of other websites to vent your feelings. Or, start an anti-Kimmer blog like the “popular kids”. Sorry, bad humor. Everyone is 100% to their opinion. Absolutely. Just take the negative opinions elsewhere.

Or, you could just lose weight?

Those of you who have been members since the website started have seen regular changes to the front page. I think we are on #5 “facelift”? Our graphic guys get bored and every few months they get an urge to make changes. Unfortunately, this change was stopped midway. The brother of our lead graphic person is having open heart surgery and the balance of the design changes have been postponed a few days.

They’ve got ideas for another front page change a few months from now. It’s the nature of the beast.

And on yet another thread, inquiring about the removal of success stories from the site, Kimmer wrote:

I’m right here!

We are renovating the front page. We needed more space on the top menu bar so some elements were removed. Success stories are still there in photo form on the right side and expanded to show 5 at a time. We’ll be adding 3 new success stories this week!

The naysayers would love for me to chat on … so I won’t. We’ve got some new support resources for members coming up, too! Keep an eye out!

——————-

If you have not yet watched the KTLA broadcast, you can watch the video here. Tonight KTLA will broadcast part 2 at 10:00 PM PDT.





Tippytoes Claims this is War

2 10 2007

In a ridiculous explanation about monitoring of private messages sent between members, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) had this to say about the matter.

Tippytoes wrote:

The reason for the PM’s being monitored is to find the sources who are hacking in by simply reading…

We are making this known to you so that there is no misunderstanding later.

As far as who is reading them, I will not say for protection of that admin. That admin has a job to do for the good of this site and the good of its members. Nothing more, nothing less. The same admin has been very busy uncovering a lot elsewhere and bit by bit we are winning this war.

I am hoping we will not need to do this forever. But we have to face facts here. The hackers came on to this site with harm’s intent. They did PM to each other and we know this now. So this is why we are monitoring and what we hope to stop.

Again, we apologize but feel we must take this action.

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October 2, 2007 at 2:55 pm

Kim

But yet didn’t all the previous posts say that nobody had access to PM’s? So now, they are being monitored and they’re tryint to justify why.

October 2, 2007 at 3:07 pm

TerryC

So the hackers are getting into KK and sending each other pm’s? Now why would they do such a stupid thing? Why didn’t they just call each other? So many questions.

October 2, 2007 at 4:06 pm

Anonymous

Um… weren’t the PMs accessible to admins *before* they started showing up on the internet?

October 2, 2007 at 4:29 pm

sandsandles

The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.

OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.

Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.

If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.

October 2, 2007 at 4:30 pm

sandsandles

… sorry, posted the cruise comment under wrong topic… but still applies!

October 2, 2007 at 5:06 pm

ixtapacheryl

OMG! I can’t believe those remaining members are buying that excuse! Those poor people can’t even share with one another their outside e-mail addresses. Why won’t Heidi/TT allow that?

October 2, 2007 at 5:43 pm

Julie

Okay, so the hackers are supposed to be smart enough to hack into the system and read the PMs but too stupid to realize that someone else might be reading their PMs.

And this is what people are supposed to believe? Seriously? What kind of logic is that?

October 2, 2007 at 8:23 pm

theTRUTH

If she wants war, I have plenty of “ammo” saved up…

October 2, 2007 at 9:15 pm

Princess Dieter

Well, there was no WAR before and all the admins and Heidi/Kimmer had free access to read PMs. Why doesn’t that scare members?

And then it came down to only Heidi and one admin having access, cause, well, “Kimmer” stopped trusting the others?

And now it’s being monitored cause of hackers?

My advice to Kimkinettes: Flee. How can you trust anything the rulership at Kimkins says? Even when they go back and say, “All is well. PMs are private,” well, you know they WON’T BE, cause they NEVER WERE. Heidi/Kimmer wouldn’t tolerate not being able to see everything going on in her kingdom. FLEE.

The Princess

October 3, 2007 at 3:34 am

ghoov

An admin of a Forum should never have reason to read PM’s, it’s none of their business. Yes, it is their site but still it’s wrong… unless they put it in writing in the TOS. Anyone know if it’s in the TOS?

Ah well perhaps after they read this, it will magically appear – get some screenshots people.

October 3, 2007 at 10:37 pm

Sarah van

What an idiot. It’s not “hacking” if you have a paid membership and access to the forum. That is, after all, what you pay MONEY for. If you don’t want to post and instead just use the IM function, that’s your right.

October 5, 2007 at 10:16 pm

claudia

What a shame all this has happened. Shame for the members, shame for the dieters, shame for the implicated admins and mods and, yes, shame for kimmer.

Just to state my position: I’m not a kimmer supporter. I am, however, a kimkins supporter. There is no doubt that that regime has helped many people lose weight both at kimmers and at lowcarbfriends.

I won’t sport with anyone’s intelligence by supporting the insupportable however as anyone considered that kimmer herself probably got caught in her own celebrity?

She went from doyen of diet on LCF to Empress Protein on kimkins. A heady ride for anyone, let alone someone who may not be intellectually, emotionally or psychiatrically equipped. Seems to me, she got strapped into the ride as much as anyone.

The fact that she’s now overweight (I do believe that she lost all that weight originally but gained it back, probably through eating to ameliorate the feelings she has about being a criminal) doesn’t take away from the fact that many people have lost, and continue to lose, weight on kimkins.

And people forgotten the years and years she spent on lowcarbfriends tirelessly and pleasantly helping people. It seems incongrous and quite barely believable that she intentionally, five years out, decided to become “kimmer”, the wonder dieter, with the long-term view of $40 per subscriber.

I think she started her own site and voila! it became something extraordinary. From there, she made some really dreadful decisions which culminated in her being America’s No.1 Most Wanted – Internet Division.

Can you imagine the pressure? Even if she has, as has been speculated, a sociopathic personalithy disorder, she must be close to break down or worse.

Her most foolish mistake was to continue to stuff down doughnuts whilst she espoused contrary principals. I can’t even imagine what kind of aridity that produces in a person, although I guess all those subscription fees will should cheer her up!

Had she fessed up and told everyone she’d fallen off the wagon then she wouldn’t be potentially going to gaol.





Tippytoes Blames Members for Health Problems

2 10 2007

This morning, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) is digging in and trying to explain the changes made to the homepage of the Kimkins website. In it, she lays blame for health problems on those following the Kimkins plans.

Tippytoes wrote:

What happened to Kimmer’s Red Dress Picture?

We are making many new and positive changes to this site every single day. We have chosen to remove the red dress photo and in place use People magazine. Too much contravery surrounds that pic and rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it. The success stories are still there although someone else did ask me where they went. I checked and they are there. Not sure if this is a tech glitch or not. But I can look further into it. Does anyone else not see them?

I think it was well said previously that Kimkins diet has been abused by some members at their own doings who now point the finger in blame towards us. We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own. We do not promote starvation, laxitive abuse or any of the like and we are making this clear. There will always be room for improvements and we are always willing to make them. We have even introduced a cycle option as part of the positive change and to help transition towards maintenance later.

We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff. However, rest assured we have some new gathering ideas in the works for next year. What we have in mind will be better and will geer more in tuned with Kimkins diets than an all you can eat fest cruise. I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.

The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here. We have a walk for breast cancer coming up and I will be posting more soon. In addition we are considering a fundraiser challenge to benefit Toys For Tots. Members participating would make and pay their own pledges directly to Toys For Tots. There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.

So hang tight, my fellow Kimkinettes! Change is GOOD!

I want you all to not be afraid to see positive changes being made. This only means we are here to stay and getting better all the time.

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October 2, 2007 at 2:32 pm

Dottie

“rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it.”

But of course… much easier just to pretend it never existed.

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

Melt’s contribution to the renovations?

October 2, 2007 at 2:37 pm

Health » Tippytoes Blames Members for Health Problems

[…] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptIn it, she lays blame for health problems on those following the Kimkins plans. Tippytoes wrote:. What happened to Kimmer’s Red Dress Picture? We are making many new and positive changes to this site every single day. … […]

October 2, 2007 at 2:46 pm

Kimmerexia

Tippytoes sez: “We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own.”

No need to “abuse” Kimkins. At 500 to 1,000 calories, it’s already starvation!!!

Tippytoes spins: “We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard [SIC] for Kimkins members as well as staff.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wouldn’t have anything to do with Regandy, the cruise organizer, jumping ship from the sinking good ship Kimtanic, would it? Noooooooooo, of course not!!!

Tippytoes defines: “Kimkinettes!”

Ah, so THAT’S what the remaining smattering of duped sugar-free kool-aid drinking minions are officially called.

Tippytoes pathetically optimistically quips: “The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here.”

Yes indeed. The lawsuits, governmental investigations and transitioning former KimkinETTES from starvation to healthful ways of eating is gonna be a friggin’ laugh a minute.

October 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm

Kim

“I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.”

Don’t trust the members to make their own decisions on what they eat? Why not tell the real reason….Heidi still wouldn’t show her face and too many questions were asked about it, so it was decided to just remove all info and hope they’ve banned everyone who knew about Heidi’s refusal.

October 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Members abusing the plan and eating low calories against Kimmer” will?
This is typical “blame the victim” abusive thinking.

Anyone who has been around Kimkins for long knows that ultra-low calories was always Kimmer’s intention. It is precisely what makes it Kimkins, not Atkins.

When I was on Boot Camp, exercising, eating an average of 465 calories a day, and stalled, and had the nerve to complain about it and decide to increase my fats, Kimmer’s emailed response was (and i quote):

“Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in
calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.

Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is
“high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the
Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight
loss will be different. Don’t forget people who
dabble in days of fasting, too.

If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else,
maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was
their weight loss accomplished by methods we would
want to follow? Many people on this site have a
problem with very low calories and refuse. “

October 2, 2007 at 3:20 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 3:36 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 3:40 pm

Kimmerexia

Funny that Tippytoes doesn’t refer to the pic as “Kimmer’s AFTER picture.”

No, it’s referred to as “the red dress picture” because even Jeannie Baitinger, Director of Public Relations for Kimkins doesn’t believe that it could possibly Kimmer’s AFTER picture.

October 2, 2007 at 4:31 pm

regandy

The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.

OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.

Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.

If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.

October 2, 2007 at 4:42 pm

anani

I am sick beyond words that Tippy would put the blame on the members for taking the diet to extremes. The extreme nature of this diet was carefully coached and taught by Kimmer herself. The following is a direct copy of Kimmer’s words to a newbie. I have the screen shot to back this up if it is ever needed.

Member asks Kimmer:
I’m new here – just started yesterday.

Which plan is designed for the fastest weight loss results?

I’m on KE and don’t have a problem with it. I was looking at Boot Camp and wondering is it’s designed for quicker weight loss results?

Thanks!!

Kimmer’s response:
The very fastest would be the Meal Replacement Shake option because there’s no chance of messing up. 450 calories a day, that’s it.

Second is Boot Camp because the protein and salads are limited, but someone could still pick a higher calorie protein by accident.

K/E was originally the fastest, but it’s not always anymore because some people tend to be creative about what a “lean” protein is plus overeating with too big portions or small snacks all day .

Kimkins is the slowest and still way faster than any other non-Kimkins plan except water fasting.

Another Member asks:
Hi Kimmer

You just posted a relpy that the Replacement Shake option is 450 caloris a day but when I look at the plan under KIMKINS Diet Plans it says 800 calories a day. Which is correct?

Kimmer’s response:
It would be 800 if you choose 200 calorie shakes and 4 per day. Personally, as long as I’m doing shakes (which are not incredibly exciting anyway), I’d find a 150 calorie version and limit to 3 (skipping a snack shake).

But I’m impatient.

October 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm

ixtapacheryl

“A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory”

OMG more fund raisers? No cruise scheduled because of safety issues?

October 2, 2007 at 5:05 pm

Stiff

So, this morning Yahoo greeted me with these articles:

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19365/6-diets-to-avoid

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19885/the-skinny-on-4-fad-diets;_ylt=AtuWsn6WiXWM8xqU5xWQeuka788F

Mmmmmmmm I smell Kimkins in those guidelines…

October 2, 2007 at 5:17 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 5:26 pm

Stiff

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

This really makes me laugh after Melt/Kimmer PM about animals. 🙂

October 2, 2007 at 6:16 pm

cando

I can’t believe this. Back in June when I posted on that site I was having “potty problems” I was told to try Exlax by several memebers and Kimmer. Becky Lil Bit came through with the suggestion of Smooth Move tea, which is herbal. I went with Becky’s suggestion and another one of two stalks of celery a day…that worked. ’cause I know that Exlax used on a regular basis can really mess you up big time.
But until people started complaining, they were promoting laxatives as a way of life. It seem to me that when I first joined, all people were eating on that site were eggwhites and Exlax. Back in my 20’s, I went on an Exlax, Dr. Pepper, M&M’s and cigerette diet for about a month, Lost tons of weight.
Man, I need to get me a web site and start sellin’ that. It was way more fun than egg whites and Exlax.

So, Tippy, your plan use to promote laxative use. Which attorney told you to stop?
And fundraisers? Man, that’s great. I guess getting $59.95 one time out of members isn’t good enough. “fund raisers” for the Pad My Pocket foundation. I’ll pass thank you.

October 2, 2007 at 6:36 pm

Antikimmerite

To top it all off SingingAss needs to learn to spell. Or edit. That was painful to read.

October 2, 2007 at 6:39 pm

finleysmom

This post made me so angry!! This was my reply on the site with my goodbye.

Too much controversy surrounding the red dress???? Are you kidding me??? Why not fix this then????? There should be NO controversy!!! FIX THIS by proving what is real! I don’t understand what the problem is. If the picture is Kimmer then PROVE IT! Why all the secrets, changes, drama, and lies??? WHY??? I have been around since the beginning on LCF. I was one of the first 20 members of Kimkins when all was hailed…”isn’t it nice to be on a site where you can speak freely and not have PM’s read and posts changed/deleted” WTF? This place is worse than LCF EVER was. What is wrong with you crazy people?? This is a nut house now. I can’t believe what has happened to this place. I feel so sad for the members who don’t understand that all of this change is a horrible sign. I am so sad it has come to this.

Goodbye all and good luck to finding what works for you!

October 2, 2007 at 6:43 pm

finleysmom

Oh, and yes I was banned for this post LOL!

October 2, 2007 at 9:06 pm

Princess Dieter

There is no limit to Tippy Toes’ reprehensible twisting of actual experiences and reality. Dang, that’s some shiny 30 pieces of silver there, Tips.

Controversy and the red dress? hahaha There would be no controversy if it was Kimmer, now would there be? The controversy is that it’s NOT.

And all that site scrubbing. Did you get all those Kimmer posts urging people to eat less, less, less and take laxatives? Did you?

And the members to blame? Boy. For someone who doesn’t follow the plan, you have some nerve judging those who DID in good faith.

You know, some people really do need to go down hard with the ship and captain…

So glad Christin and others are out there to put the lie to Tipper’s propaganda.

The Princess

October 2, 2007 at 9:52 pm

CR

“the red dress picture”

Why not say the “picture of Kimmer” LMAO…..

What a freakin JOKE!!!!

No cruise because there is food on it ROFLMAO…..

it just gets better everytime….the lies, the twists, the stupidity LOL

October 2, 2007 at 10:55 pm

moo

“We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff”

WTF lol. Oh and would someone PLEASE buy TT a friggen dictionary (and teach her how to use it).

October 2, 2007 at 11:56 pm

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October 3, 2007 at 7:36 am

Sue

Tippy – you’re a bitch!
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SingingLass is a bit miffed. She obviously has no clue about public records and reporting their contents online.

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