Kimkins Faked Success Stories

4 10 2007

Kimkins “Christy” is Olga

Kimkins “Dina” is Liudmila

Kimkins “Annette” is Svetlana

Kimkins “Victoria” is Olga and Olga

Kimkins “Jilllian” is Larisa

Kimkins “Joann” is Elena

Kimkins “Bambi” is Svetlana

Kimkins “Cami” is Lyudmila and Elena

Kimkins “Anne” is Svetlana

Kimkins “Lori” is Galina

Hat tip to all at Low Carb Friends who spent hours searching various websites for the source of the pictures used as success stories on Kimkins!
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October 4, 2007 at 1:24 pm

Lisa J/wettybauer99

Like I said before…a new challenge for the KK site

“100 lbs until I am Russian”

LOL LOL 🙂

October 4, 2007 at 1:26 pm

Willa Smith

For Pete’s sake SingingLass and TT…if you don’t get it now, you never will. If the Hideygate video tapes and pictures didn’t do it SURELY this will.

October 4, 2007 at 1:32 pm

MicheleP

Kimmer lied? OMG! Kimmer used fake pics? No, come on, why would she lie. Her diet works, just ask anyone…..the diet works, who cares? (typed with lots of sarcasm just in case you didnt know, lol)

October 4, 2007 at 1:33 pm

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Ducky, thanks for putting this these fake pics together so it’s easy to follow. I have a feeling you’ll be updating this all day. Those LCF “detectives” are GOOD! Wooooooo!

Hope the proper authorities and investigative reporters have been notified! Double Woooooooo!

October 4, 2007 at 1:33 pm

kar_kar

please give a hat tip to the ladies at LCF, if this is where you got your info. They did a lot of searching.

October 4, 2007 at 1:46 pm

On the Sidelines

Kimmer/Hidey is so busted. Current please look at who you are following a fake, a phoney, a criminal. She is not this miracle saint she is a criminal.

October 4, 2007 at 1:48 pm

LJ

LOL Lisa J…

Доктор, помогает мне.

Kimkins сделало меня тонко но русского, также.

October 4, 2007 at 1:57 pm

On the Sidelines

I had a typo in my last post. It should say “Current supporters of Kimmer and KimKins”

October 4, 2007 at 2:05 pm

SydneyNelson

And I would like to know how she is going to explain this one? Before she said she has no control over whether or not members send in fake pics. But I seriously doubt they all sent in fake pics from a russian dating site! I mean, give me a break!

If the people over “there” stay, they are crazy!!!

October 4, 2007 at 2:14 pm

regandy

The more that is uncovered the STUPID-er I feel. I could KICK myself for being so trusting. Yeah, yeah, I know I wasn’t the only one, but still it really makes me feel sooooo stupid.

I think they are going to find the woman in the red dress buried somewhere in that website!! Excellent work!!

October 4, 2007 at 2:17 pm

Amy (curlygirl)

As one of the “real” success stories, it’s clear we were the minority. It makes me so mad that the handful of us that were real were (and probably still are) up there with a bunch of russian mail order brides! I feel so used! Seriously, if you have not left Kimkins yet, do it now! This is coming from someone who did lose weight and had no side effects and even I am saying – KIMMER IS A FRAUD! You don’t need her to lose weight! There are tons of other forums that will provide support and these other forums are filled with REAL people and REAL success stories, not fake successes pulled off of russian bride sites.

October 4, 2007 at 2:22 pm

WatchingfromHere

Holy crap. Hopefully KTLA and the BBB catch on to this part of the fraud.

October 4, 2007 at 2:24 pm

regandy

Stupid because I used to sit and look at these over and over and read them for inspiration.

October 4, 2007 at 2:34 pm

Michalle

I wonder how long those stories will stay on the site!! ROFL!!!

October 4, 2007 at 2:36 pm

Michalle

I know what you mean, regandy! I am embarrassed at myself for believing all that crap! I’m usually not so gullible!

October 4, 2007 at 2:46 pm

TerryC

regandy -we ALL feel that same way. Amy this does not in ANY way diminish your accomplishment.

October 4, 2007 at 2:55 pm

DucksForTruth&Justice

Hugs for those who have been hurt by this SCAMMER. You did nothing wrong and you are far from stupid, what you are guilty of is being honest and trusting people who believes in others. You could never treat others this way and had absolutely no way of knowing what Heidi Diaz was capable of. My family was infected by someone with this type of personality disorder and it stung us very deeply. It takes time to heal, please surround yourself with those you know who are true and honest and be kind to yourselves I will tell you that your sh*t detector will be on high alert from now on and you will be able to spot garbage a mile away. Heidi/Kimmer is truly is a very sick human being.

October 4, 2007 at 3:19 pm

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October 4, 2007 at 3:27 pm

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October 4, 2007 at 3:29 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Amy (curlygirl) – THANK YOU for coming out and saying this! I am so glad you are speaking up like this, since you have always been such a role model and inspiration to others. I hope people listen to you!

Kimmer’s misuse and exploitation of others is a crime, in every sense of the word.
PLEASE, people, do not have ANY part of her criminal enterprise!

Folks, you can lose weight with friends for support, WITHOUT aiding and abetting a criminal.

Amy is a REAL success, and has her own free forum, http://forum.eatinglow.com/

Also, lots of Kimkins folks are at http://www.lowcarbdiscussion.com/

Others have joined http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ and http://forum.lowcarber.org/. among others.

Just leave! Find a better online home. You’ll have to soon anyway — the site is going down before too long.

October 4, 2007 at 4:18 pm

Eat, People, EAT!

I remember Heidi’s defense about people sending her those photos, and she also said that SHE tried to Photoshop them to adjust the lighting since most people don’t know how to take good photos of themselves. (insert rolling eyes) What are the odds that EVERY one of those alleged members lifted their pics from the same Russian site??? ROFLMAO.

It was also interesting when ALL of those new photos showed up at the same time after the remodel. She got rid of the old ones that people had questioned, and just put up a batch of new fake ones.

It’s so insulting how she just laughs in the face of morality. Some of those pictures clearly looked dated and just embarassingly awkward, we hashed over these at ALC but there was no way of figuring out where they came from. This is a MAJOR coup! Much props to all of the cyber detectives for finding these!

Wonder what she’ll put up now?

October 4, 2007 at 4:55 pm

Caro

I am the person who found the fake “Annette” photo that got this ball rolling,
and even I am shocked that almost every single success story is a fake! I thought there would be a few, sure, but this many? Unbelievable!

I just had a hunch yesterday afternoon, and got lucky right away. The photos would have to be available *somewhere* and there was something vaguely Russian/Eastern European about many of the them. Pay dirt!! I knew once I posted it everyone would dig until every last one was turned up and they did so in record time! Awesome work guys!

Caro (aka vanillasky, autumn, cilantro) <–needs to pick a name and stick with it! 🙂

October 4, 2007 at 4:57 pm

Caro

PS — Dasvidanya, “Kimmer”!

October 4, 2007 at 5:30 pm

Becky/Littlebit

You are a true hero, Caro!!!

You ought to get a medal for this one!

October 4, 2007 at 6:14 pm

Just one more dupe

I can’t believe you all would be so suspicious of someone wanting to look their best to trap..er I mean find their future mate…Kimmer to the rescue!

October 4, 2007 at 6:17 pm

Amy

the woman in the red dress was actually on the success stories the other week as Nikki?? she lost 60 pounds in 3 months. She was an Italian who loved to cook but changed her lifestyle..it was the same woman who had the dark hair and the brown shirt and was leaning in for a picture. Which I think, is the same as the red dress lady…

October 4, 2007 at 7:12 pm

Stiff

Caro, you are amazing.
I had the Russian/Eastern Euro hunch too!
But then I thought, what are the odds?
Next time, I’ll dive!

October 4, 2007 at 9:32 pm

CR

who’s gonna write to all the Russian women and tell them that a scammer has stolen their pics and uses them to make money?????????

October 5, 2007 at 6:37 am

Stiff

Annette is also here:
http://www.russian-brides-service.com/content/profiles/lady/3394
As Svetlana, of course.

October 5, 2007 at 6:47 am

Stiff

Raquel’s midpoint picture also looks a lot like Zeinap…

http://www.chanceforlove.com/main.php?action=details&do=details&id=0000001268

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Kimkins: Internet Diet Scam

4 10 2007

Kimkins: Internet Diet Scam

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Scrubbing Away Don’t Rid the Stink

1 10 2007

As evidenced by various previous attempts to distance Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) from the scandal and controversy, once again the Kimkins website underwent an update; this time scrubbing remnants of the claim that Kimmer is the founder of the diet and lost 198 pounds in 11 months, fraudulent marketing claims.

UPDATE: Also removed is the direct link to Success Stories. Now access to success stories is limited to those appearing on the home page via direct link to the specific story one is interested in reading.

Not to worry though, screen shots abound, along with cached catalogs of the entire site and all of its updates throught this controversy.





Becky Continues

27 09 2007

Just moments ago, Becky posted a continuation of Kimkins: The Perfect Storm.

Now, a look at the professional practices of Kimkins.

Kimmer first gave out her brand of diet advice (as well as hair care and skin care tips) for years on Low Carb Friends, which garnered both followers and foes. I am not sure when the idea of her own site first began in her mind, whether it was all a carefully-laid plan, or just an opportunity too good to pass up when it arose. Judging from her track record of not sticking very long with any one thing (whether it be school or work or a relationship), I would guess that it was the latter. My conjecture is that she joined the diet site in all sincerity, hoping to lose weight like anyone else. She probably learned some things and had some initial success, but then, being Kimmer, she just couldn’t help embellishing things a bit, highlighting her successes and ignoring her failings, amplifying it more and more, becoming more extreme over time, as it began to attract some attention. Gradually, the gap between her words and her actions widened, as she could not follow through with her knowledge and intentions, but could not allow herself to back down and admit it, either.

She may have done what many of us have done —- promised herself to get back on track tomorrow, next week, next month, try to be extra strict to make up for it, only to give in to her old ways again. Her real life wasn’t working for her at all — but online she could be the best possible version of herself, everything she every dreamed of, until perhaps she came to believe it herself. The attention and approbation were too addicting.

At some point, it seems, delusion reigned supreme, and there was no backing down. As her claims became more grandiose and her polarizing presence began to dominate and draw heat more and more at the LCF forum, another member, Catherine, approached her with the idea of an ebook and a website to sell it. (Read more here.) I think it was the brass ring, the golden goose, and Kimmer/Heidi grabbed at the opportunity for . Once that thought was there, I do believe Kimmer purposely aggravated her enemies and gathered her fans even more, setting the stage for her big exit. Soon, ‘Kimmer’ flounced off in a huff, and Kimkins.com was launched as a partnership between Heidi Diaz, supposed diet guru and Catherine McDonald, tech expert.

In the early days of the Kimkins website, Kimmer seemed to have it all — a successful diet plan, satisfied customers who were easy to please, low overhead, and a competent business partner who made her ideas work. Her departure from LCF calmed down hostilities quite a bit all around, and Kimmer was left to operate her own site in her own little corner of the internet with little interference. If she had made the right moves then, Heidi/Kimmer might possibly have been able to continue on course to a legitimate business success for quite some time to come. However, because Kimmer at her core is a fraud, it was inevitable that any enterprise built on that basis would soon begin to crumble.

Kimmer was not only a fraud in her own personal claims of large, rapid weight loss, but she soon began building the business of Kimkins around fraud at virtually every level — member service, marketing, and management.

~ Fraudulent Member Service: She lied to her members about the safety and efficacy of her diet plans, leading them to believe her plans were safely based on the recognized plans of doctors such as Dr. Atkins and Dr. Stillman, while continuing to push them ever farther away from the cautions and sensible limits of those plans. She assured members it was safe, because, after all, it had worked so well for her, or so she said. She also began to be less and less available to members, despite her promised member benefit of ‘personal coaching‘. She ignored or gave inadequate and misleading answers to valid member concerns. This was because she apparently preferred to spend her energies on marketing, to keep new paying customers coming in the front door while leaving the members mostly on their own to look out for one another.

~ Fraudulent Marketing: In her marketing campaign, she lied to prospective members by spamming Craigslist with fake listings to plug Kimkins, by posting phony ‘articles’ and answers and numerous blogs for Kimkins all over the internet under various names, by promoting Kimkins with false implied celebrity endorsements specifically to target teens, and primarily by posting numerous fraudulent ’success’ stories with ‘lifted’ and photoshopped ‘before’ and ‘after’ pictures. She also made numerous claims she had no proof of or right to make, in violation of FTC regulations.

~ Fraudulent Management: Heidi/Kimmer entered into partnership with Catherine originally under false pretenses, and continued to lie to her about many things, including the source of the ‘success stories‘. It also appears that Heidi skimmed a certain part of the gross proceeds from the partnership before profits were split, by funneling income to supposed affiliate accounts which actually led back to her. It is unclear whether proper legal or tax filings were ever made, though it does not appear they were.

In matters big and small, every bit of the Kimkins enterprise was fraught with deception. It was bound to catch up to her sooner or later.

Before too long, Catherine began to have concerns about Heidi’s integrity, and backed out of the partnership. At this point, Kimmer claims to have brought in 4 other partners to finance Catherine’s buyout, but this is highly doubtful. For one thing, one of the partners she claims to have brought in at that time is Heidi Diaz, but photographic and written evidence clearly shows that Kimmer herself is Heidi Diaz. (For example, Kimmer has always acknowledged that Catherine was her partner in the beginning, and Catherine signed the original partnership agreement with Heidi Diaz.) Other names mentioned as possible ‘partners’ include Dennis Sharp (her son), Vanessa Sharp and/or Romero (Vanessa Romero is her niece), Nicki or Nikki Sharp, and Tish Diaz. It is extremely unlikely that these relatives are actually working, decision-making partners as Kimmer leads people to believe. It is possible they put up some money so Heidi could buy out Catherine; it is possible she got money from them under some other pretext; it is very possible they know little or nothing, and she is just using their names to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise. Nicki and later Vanessa disappeared from the “Meet Your Team’ roster some time ago, so it is possible they were based on actual people who became aware of the use of their identities, and protested it.

I have seen various things supposedly ‘written’ by some of those names and now Brad Johnson. To me. they all have the same unmistakable writing style, and are all almost surely written by Heidi herself, who freely admits to writing frequently under various male and female names. No one has ever spoken or communicated with any of them, except through Kimmer, and she trotted out the same excuses over and over as to why they were not available. (Usually they were ‘called out of town to deal with a sick father’.) Kimmer herself often spoke to me of doing all affiliate payouts and answering affiliate questions, even though she supposedly had an affiliate manager. These ‘partners’ were probably a construct that Kimmer used to pass blame, as when criticizing someone (’the partners don’t think they are getting their money’s worth’) or floating unpopular ideas (’the partners are pressing to make the fees monthly vs. lifetime membership’, which she brought up to me several times), as well as to provide other ‘identities’ under which to hide income.

In fact, there is no good reason to assume that the entity of Kimkins is anything other than Heidi Diaz sitting at her computer pumping out fraudulent marketing and picking up funds from Paypal and the mailbox, with a tech guy or two working remotely and unaware of the real situation, and paid and unpaid admins and members doing the heavy lifting on the site.

The best of businesses, with a solid business plan and an experienced team of managers would have been hard pressed to absorb the massive explosion of growth that occurred with the Woman’s World magazine feature. Kimmer only had forum helpers with very little knowledge of the true nature of the business; after all, she could not afford to bring anyone into her confidence, because she had too many secrets to hide. So, Heidi was suddenly way out of her league. She was gleeful at the funds rolling in, and foolishly thought she could continue to get away with the same type of scamming indefinitely. She was even in contact with Star magazine for another feature. Who knows? Maybe she even thought she could lose the weight, go legit, and make it work. However, her newfound success soon began to cave in on her.

Once thousands of new members hit the site and began trying to understand and apply the diet, the pressure was too heavy and all the cracks in the foundation soon began to appear. Without the personal mentoring and reinterpretation of the diets that new members had received before, the flaws and gaps in Heidi’s business soon became very evident. Many of those coming in with fresh eyes clearly saw the disparity between what was promised and what was delivered. Many clearly saw the dangers of the diet plans, all of them. Of the 40,000 or more who joined, most never even tried the diet once they actually saw it, and many who did try it did not stick with it long. Meanwhile, all the massive attention the diet was receiving reignited the souldering controversy that she thought she had left behind at LCF. However, Heidi did have two things working in her favor: the misplaced support of people like me who encouraged new members to stick with it, and the absolute sheer desperation of overweight people who had almost given up hope. For my own blindness and supporting role in it, I am sick-to-my-stomach sorry, and beg forgiveness.

At this time, Heidi seemed manic with delight over the income rolling in, and eager to spin off new ventures – more magazine and media features, merchandise, and related enterprises like the nutrition business she offered me. She could hardly be bothered with member support or complaints, and brushed off all concerns as something irrelevant, hardly worthy of her attention, even as worrisome side effects and evidences of her dishonesty mounted. Thus, the round of emails I pressed on her, with the results that we admins began to leave and express our concerns and experiences.

Our exits and warnings further precipitated a rash of blockings and bannings, as other members took up the banner and began speaking out. The business of Kimkins is now woefully in breech of the terms of their agreement with their members, who paid for lifetime membership in a healthy and safe diet followed by a woman who lost 198 lbs in 11 months and maintained it, only to be booted without warning when they complained that the diet was unsafe and the owner’s story was a lie. Members have had ‘privileges’ like private messaging and blog links in their signatures revoked, have been flamed and harangued mercilessly for any hint of breaking ranks,and have been banned without warning, redress, or refund on the vaguest pretext of ‘violation of Terms of Service’, which, like the diet plans and disclaimers, are an ever-moving target, conveniently changed after the fact.

Kimmer had it all — a million dollar website, a great staff, great member loyalty, and great future prospects. And due to great greed, arrogance, and dishonesty she threw it away.

Kimmer is now behaving like a rat backed into a corner, biting and snarling, while looking for a way of to escape unscathed. She is starting to meltdown, trying to cover her tracks and salvage what she can, leaving more of the running of things in the hands of unqualified admins. Perhaps she still thinks she can pull it off, or perhaps she is making her exit plans. As she continues to overestimate herself and underestimate her opponents, she will find, once again, that she has made a grave mistake in waiting too long.

Kimmer is a dangerous fraud, and the business of Kimkins is a dangerous fraud.

Both need to be stopped, and the sooner, the better.

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September 27, 2007 at 7:47 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 7:50 pm

Mimi

A note about the timeline … correct me if I’m wrong, but from all the digging that’s been done, Kimkins.com was set up BEFORE Heidi left LCF.

She had found LCF fertile ground for cultivating a crop of victims, but couldn’t harvest them until (according to the CreditBoard) her bankruptcy and other liens had “timed off.”

In the meantime, she was getting the website ready. When the time-off date had passed, that’s when she left LCF and started charging money for memberships.

This is, to the best of my knowledge, the REAL timeline.

September 27, 2007 at 8:01 pm

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September 27, 2007 at 8:10 pm

Becky/Littlebit

I believe that Kimkins.com as a domain name was registered in April. 2006, the big flail-up happened in late May or early June, with site launch very shortly after.

Catherine or Martin would know more.

September 27, 2007 at 8:21 pm

Mimi

Yes I’m confusing registration of the domain, with opening the board. What I mean is, basically, she was laying the groundwork for the board, preparing, and building up to her dramatic exit from LCF.

As one of the other commenters has stated elsewhere, Heidi isn’t mentally ill — she’s simply evil, and she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s fully aware of her intentions and her actions, fully capable of outcome-based behaviors.

September 27, 2007 at 9:54 pm

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Becky (assuming you come back to this blog), after the WW article, was it ever *confirmed* that over 35,000 new members actually paid the life-time membership fee? Confirmed by anyone other than Kimmer, I should say. Did you have access to those types of figures, names and numbers?

I was a member there at the time and, yes, it was mind-boggling with the flood of new members, but close to 40,000? I’ve always had trouble believing that figure. If that’s really the case, the vast majority of them obviously didn’t stick around to post in the forums.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t doubt YOU, Becky. But I can see how Kimmer would exaggerate the numbers just, as you said, “to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise.”

If the 40,000 figure is anywhere close to accurate … where are all these people? Those of us protesting here, at ALC, LCF, etc. are just the tip of the iceberg.

September 27, 2007 at 10:19 pm

Princess Dieter

It would be interesting to know when Kimmer-Heidi’s son turned legal age. Maybe THAT is what she was waiting for, since she put the site under his name. If the son turned 18 Spring of 2006, that would definitely put the motivation there…

(Can a 17 yeard old have a site registered under their name? I have no idea.)

And I totally believe she’d be going to LCF to gather her following before heading off.

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 10:45 pm

antikimkins

Kimmer certainly doesn’t appear to be a millionaire, in fact, she still seems to have money problems. I wonder out of the thousands who joined after the WW article, how many requested refunds within that 24 hour block?

September 27, 2007 at 11:20 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Kimmer canceled the 24- hour refund policy prior to the magazine feature. She did give out some refunds from those who joined and cited kidney problems or other medical concerns, once they saw the diet, but very few.

I cannot prove those figures are accurate, but i would not be at all surprised if the membership numbers are not actually higher now.

I know how busy i was. I saw the posts rolling through there. At one time, I had access to member service emails, and she was getting literally thousands of emails a day. I was getting scores of PMs, as were many others. We had thousands online at a time, and hundreds posting intros and joining new challenges every day.

She also became suddenly very elated, and became much more willing to pay for help.

I imagine many signed up, looked at the diets, and left quickly, chalking it up to an expensive lesson learned. Most were not a typical online crowd. Quite a few lurked, but did not post. Many posted, but have dropped out now. Many have gotten banned, or cowed into silence. Still, they paid, and she kept the money.

She only took the membership and online numbers down when she began drawing too much fire from LCF, Slamboard, etc. I believe she wanted to reduce speculation into her gross profits once people started doing the math.

I have heard people say that they would look online and not see many people there back then. Perhaps they were not looking in the right places, because that was not at all the case then. The way the site was set up, the number reflected on a forum index page did not reflect the number actually viewing threads within that particular forum, but only the number of people looking at that index page at the time. You would have to open each thread to get a full count.

Only she knows for sure what her full intake was, but I have reason to believe it was quite high.

She told me she had only put back into the business what was absolutely necessary, and had the rest invested at a 10% rate of return. Who knows if that is true?

I do not believe she planned this out years in advance. I think she posted at LCF first for ego and power, and only later for money. I just don’t see her as someone who can sustain hard work for long without some kind of a payoff, but rather as an opportunist. I could be wrong. Time will tell.

September 28, 2007 at 2:04 am

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Thank you, Becky, for that insight. I guess I’ve been hoping for lower numbers because that would mean fewer people were scammed, but it looks like she really was/is raking in the big bucks. Thanks again.

September 28, 2007 at 2:47 am

Dottie

Becky that’s very insightful. I also do not think that this giant “venture” was on her mind when she started out on LCF. Looking back on when she left, I really think she was planning on just getting $$ out of maybe a couple of dozen of her “fans” off LCF, then shutting the site down due to lack of funds (or hitting the members up for more $$ to “run” it).
I don’t really think she had any idea that it would take off in the big way that it did.

September 28, 2007 at 7:15 am

Princess Dieter

I totally believe there was a windfall from WW. That kind of coverage is sure to do that.

And I’m sure H/K knew to keep the money inflow quiet and the lifestyle discreet so as to keep all sorts off her back. Spending oodles would have drawn attention, I think. There is also the miser phenomenon where accumulating the money is the kick, not spending it. In fact, spending it reduces the pleasure of actually having a hoard.

Even if it’s half the reported 40K, that’s a lot of mookah going mostly to ONE woman who is hardly accountable. She got the Paypal and the checks. Why should she be truthful about how much when she’s not truthful about the rest?

And if she can offer Christian a car, then 100K for an Oprah brass ring, trust me, that means she had to have a nice, tidy reserve.

It would only have taken 10K members after WW to get 600K. And if that’s not reported or paid taxes on, that’s a nice chunk for any “disabled” person on government dole.

Didn’t someone say that the son bragged mom had a million in Paypal? (Can’t verify where that came from. Just remember reading it.)

The Princess

September 28, 2007 at 8:31 am

Sherrie

I think you’re right Becky.

September 30, 2007 at 8:12 pm

Peaches12

Why did all the admin. wait until the same time to quit. If you knew the diet was dangerous why did you continue to state otherwise, was it just the money that kept you going. I’m so confused, I continue to do Kimkins but with a higher fat intake since my body stalled and the increase intake helped it to lose quicker. How could so many been individual’s lifes have been put in jeopardy for merely a paycheck. Can you answer that, Becky?





Investigate for Yourself

18 09 2007

For those being lulled to sleep within the Kimkins website to believe nothing is really happening because of sites like this, wake up!

If you want to continue to believe Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) so be it, but if you want to confirm the veracity of things reported here and elsewhere, here is your chance to do your own fact checking to see for yourself that we’re not simply blowing hot air.

Don’t simply believe us, really, check these things out for yourself.

FACT CHECK OPTION 1: Call or email CASA

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) claims she “serves” as a CASA. Barbara Hofman is the director of the Riverside CASA Satallite. She is available via email at bhofman@casariversidecounty.org or by phone at (951) 358-4305 and can verify that Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is not a CASA and has not been for years!

FACT CHECK OPTION 2: Call the Office of the Foster Care Ombudsman

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) claims she has foster children in her care. For more information on placements and licensing, call the Office of the Foster Care Ombudsman at 1-877-846-1602. They can tell you that at one time Heidi Diaz did serve as a foster parent, but has not in years!

FACT CHECK OPTION 3: Call the FTC

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) claims nothing has come about from the online petition. We beg to differ and suggest you contact the FTC to verify receipt of the complaint and ask about the status of the ongoing investigation.

FACT CHECK OPTION 4: Call the Postmaster General Fraud Hotline

Mail fraud is serious.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is under investigation for mail fraud.

Don’t believe us, pick up the phone and verify the ongoing investigation!

Hotline telephone number is 1-800-452-8210. You can also e-mail to hotline@cncsoig.gov

FACT CHECK OPTION 5: Call Social Security

It has been learned that Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) collects Social Security Disability and since she’s made millions on her website this year, continuing to collect places her in the category of fraudulent recipt of benefits. The Social Security Administration is investigating. You can verify the open and ongoing investigation by calling Telephone: 1-800-269-0271 from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Eastern Standard Time

FACT CHECK OPTION 6: Call the California Attorney Gereral’s Office

Ask if they’ve received the complaint and petition and if they have opened an investigation. They can be reached at Voice: (916) 322-3360 or 1-(800) 952-5225.

FACT CHECK OPTION 7: Call the attorney leading the class action lawsuit

His name is John Tiedt and you can reach him at 951-343-3320.

Now ask yourself, why would we put all this information up for you to verify if we and other bloggers were lying?

UPDATE

FACT CHECK OPTION 8: Contact the Braille Institute

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) has a success story up where the supposed woman is blind and met Heidi at the Braille Institute where Heidi volunteered.

Call the Braille Institute at Phone: (323) 663-1111 or email them at la@brailleinstitute.org and ask if Heidi Diaz has indeed volunteered with them or not. Hint, they’ll tell you no!

And for the record, you may wish to ask about her known aliases:

Heidi Diaz
Heidi K. Diaz
Heidi Kimberly Diaz
Heidi K Miller
Heidi Kimberly Miller
Heidi Drake (mother’s maiden name)

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September 18, 2007 at 5:53 pm

LCer

I contacted CASA a while back and was told that Diaz used to be a CASA but hasn’t been a part of their volunteer program in YEARS! I also called the foster care program when it was first posted that she doesn’t have foster kids and again was told she used to, but there is no record of her being a foster parent in the last three years.

September 18, 2007 at 5:59 pm

OddManOut

Has anyone contacted the woman Kimmer claims to have met at the braille institute to find out if she even exists?
There’s a profile on the kimkins.com site about her.

September 18, 2007 at 6:03 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Yeah, well guess what, she hasn’t been with the braille institute under any of those names, and um…they are pissed off. So I guess this is just another lie! 😉

September 18, 2007 at 6:21 pm

ally

Can I post this to Kimkins?

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Absolutely! Just realize doing so will most likely lead to your being banned immediately!

September 18, 2007 at 6:21 pm

Fatkins4Me

Well, I can confirm that the postmaster general is investigating since I reported mail fraud from the check I sent to her for the foster kids challenge!

September 18, 2007 at 6:44 pm

Do Good Today

I sent the FTC a very long and detailed letter, complete with screen captures and text that is illegal. I don’t know if that opened the investigation, but I’m sure I’m not the only one who alerted them to the Kimkins frauds!

September 18, 2007 at 6:47 pm

Kimmer Sucks!

Called FTC? yes, ongoing investigation confirmed

Called CASA? yes, Heidi Diaz not a CASA

Called Foster Care? yes, Heidi Diaz used to be a foster parent, isn’t now

Called Braille Institute? yes, they’re pissed at the claims made on Kimkins and no Heidi Diaz (or other alias) has ever volunteered with them

Called postmaster? yes, no comment about open investigations

Called SS? yes, no comment about ongoing investigations

Called attorney? no need to, I’m already part of the class action and know he’s real and the suit is in progress!

September 18, 2007 at 7:54 pm

OddManOut

Yahoo the kimins ebook is out! Finally I have something to read while I go to the bathroom. #1 because it’s only a 2000 word “book”.

Congratulations! You have just received the Kimkins.com e-book! Here you will read and learn all about the original Kimkins Diet, how and why it works — and best of all, what it can do for you!

What Is the Kimkins Diet and What Makes It Superior to Other Weight Loss Plans?

Kimkins is the fastest major weight loss plan ever. Sure, we know you’ve heard claims like this before. That’s one reason we have decided to put the original Kimkins Diet in this e-book. Try it and see for yourself.

Always ask your doctor before starting this or any diet plan.

Do I Have To Take Pills Such As Appetite Suppressants or Diet Pills?

Absolutely NOT! However, do speak with your doctor about quality nutritional vitamins and mineral supplements. In this day and age of depleting soil nutrients and processing of foods, free radicals and environmental pollution, we strongly recommend supplements for everyone — dieting or not.

Will I Be Hungry?

No. The Kimkins Diet causes an effect termed “ketosis”. Ketosis is a natural body process and in simple terms means burning stored body fat for fuel.

When a person is in ketosis they often experience a sense of well being and experience little or no hunger. Ketosis is a natural appetite suppressant. Doing Kimkins a person can expect to be in ketosis in just a few short days. Symptoms normally include a copper taste in the mouth. Your breath will change as well.

Kimkins is certainly not the first low carb plan to introduce ketosis, but Kimkins offers a special advantage the other plans don’t. Motivation even before ketosis sets in by giving you what you really want in a weight loss plan. Fast results! That’s right — fast! You can expect to see a drop of up to 1 pound a day or more per day (varies from each individual) on average and sometimes even more!

Losing 5% (or more!) of your total body weight within 10 days is commonly reported by members.

Of course sometimes people who are accustomed to eating large portions may still feel hungry despite ketosis. We can help you adjust your menu and portions to suit your individual needs. Your comfort is important to us as well as to your own success.

No One Understands

Most importantly, here at Kimkins.com we know how you feel. We know the despair, humiliation and embarrassment that tend to go hand in hand with being overweight.

Maybe you have a high school reunion coming up and you want to look your best? Or perhaps the same clothes you wore last summer won’t button up today? Or maybe you saw a glimpse of yourself in a storefront window reflection and you no longer recognize that person!

Worse, recent photographs and videos often shock us. Often we don’t realize how our weight has spiraled out of control until we see the images on film.

Here at Kimkins we are made up of people who understand your situation because we’ve been there. Each and every single one of us knows what it’s like to be over weight. We are succeeding and you will too.

How Can We Make Such Claims?

Just ask our members at Kimkins.com! Our chat room is just one source of happy people who will tell you that Kimkins is highly effective and does deliver the promise of fast weight loss.

With nearly 40,000 members and rapidly growing, Kimkins.com has the support you need. Studies have shown that losing weight with a support group is far more effective than going it alone. So, come on in to Kimkins.com and start off by introducing yourself and head off to the Newbie Support forum to get started.

On the website you will find support, positive re-enforcement and helpful guidance from members and staff. These people started out just like you and they are succeeding! There’s always something interesting and fun goings on at Kimkins.com on the challenge forums, too! What could be more motivational than a group of people who are all losing with you?

And there’s more! We also offer weight loss challenges that benefit others in need — just by your success!

At certain times you will find fundraisers (optional for you to join) which help fund non profit organizations. For example, we are currently planning a challenge to benefit diabetes awareness. Plus, we have a breast cancer walk coming up in 2008.

We will be posting more about these fundraisers on our bulletin boards very soon.

Proof It Works

Want more proof that Kimkins works as promised?

How about People magazine, January 3, 2007 entitled Half Their Size? Yes, we have a weight loss success story, Mary Smith, on the cover who credits the Kimkins plan as part of her success!

And on the June 5, 2007 issue of Woman’s World magazine, we proudly feature another success story on the cover! Christin is a mom of 2 and lost 100 lbs on Kimkins in just 5 short months!

At Kimkins.com you will find many, many success stories. We hope the next one will be you!

Your Health

Even more important than your appearance is your health. Excess weight is a well known contributor to health problems and can cause a myriad of conditions including high blood pressure, high cholesterol and type 2 diabetes.

Excess weight can also be hard on the joints, can cause feet to swell and contributes to lower back problems. And let’s not forget fatigue and depression. Kimkins can help with the cure.

Understanding Why

On almost any corner there is a fast food restaurant, doughnut shops or convenient stores stocked with candy, junk food, sugary drinks, etc. Turn on the television and you’ll see plenty of promotions for unhealthy junk foods but rarely featuring an overweight host. It’s misleading, for sure.

But at Kimkins.com we can show you exactly which foods are making you over weight and unhealthy. We can also help you choose foods that will benefit your health as well as your weight.

Do I have To Buy Pre-packaged Foods?

No. Kimkins is simple. You will find everything you need at your local grocery store. Meal preparations are easy.

In fact, so easy and delicious that we have included a few sample recipes in the back of this book. Try them and see for yourself!

OK, What About Exercise? Do I have To Do It?

No. Exercise is a matter of personal choice. It is not necessary for weight loss while doing Kimkins. However, if you would like the benefits from exercising we do have an excellent exercise forum with like-minded members to encourage you.

But How Does Kimkins Work?

Kimkins is not just another low calorie plan. Nor is it just another low carb plan. Kimkins is unique. Again, we are proud to make the claim that there is no faster major weight loss plan — NONE! Come see for yourself at Kimkins.com.

Overheard on Our Boards

“I tried Atkins but it quit working for me. I tried South Beach and it didn’t work either. I even tried another low calorie diet called The Rotation diet and failed to lose anything. Then I found Kimkins and am proud to say today I have lost 112 lbs!”

Will I Gain The Weight Back Once I Hit Goal?

No. We will teach you what foods to eat to maintain your goal weight. Gradually you will be able to add more foods back into your diet until you find your own individual tolerances.

Will I Ever Be Able To Eat My Favorite Foods Again?

Yes. But, not every day or in the same quantity. Once you have reached your goal weight you will occasionally be able to treat yourself to a special food that was previously off limits during the weight loss phase.

Our maintenance plan offers a huge advantage over most plans. We allow a 5 lb span from your goal weight number. It’s a good idea to drop to the lower end of your weight loss span first, before you indulge. Then, if a certain food indulgence causes your weight to go over your comfort zone, simply return to a short round of Kimkins until the weight is back to the lower end. Normally this only takes a few days.

We recommend you keep a sharp eye on the scales and pay attention to how your clothes fit. Be vigilant and you can stay slim forever.

What Is My Goal Weight?

At Kimkins.com you will find a tool called My Virtual Model. The model is a replica of you according to your height and body structure. You can enter different weights and get an idea of what you will look like. This will help you determine your ideal weight.

Or, you may recall an earlier weight when you were most comfortable. Many already have that magic number in mind before they start Kimkins. Either way we can help you determine your goal weight.

A healthy BMI is just the beginning of the new you.

What If I Get Bored With Kimkins?

At Kimkins.com we have alternative weight loss plans that are all just as effective as the original Kimkins plan. The choice is yours! Feel free to try them all and find your own personal favorite. We even offer vegetarian choices.

My Doctor Says Lose Slower

Introducing the slower but steady plan! Kimkins can be cycled with a higher fat and higher calorie plan. Some people find they are more comfortable using this plan and can stay on target this way.

You may not get the fastest results, but you will still succeed. Just ask us how at Kimkins.com. We are here for you 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Original Kimkins Diet
As much lean protein as desired from the Kimkins Food List
0-20 total carbs per day(no fiber or sugar alcohol subtraction)
0-3 cups List 1 veggies per day OR
0-2 cups List 1 veggies + 0-1 cup List 2 veggies per day
Use minimal fat to make your menu work (careful, calories count!)
No alcohol or low carb products (sugar free candy, energy bars, frozen meals)
Your appetite will reduce naturally after 3-5 days
Take a complete multivitamin each day plus other desired supplements

Favorite Simple Recipes

Ham & Egg Skillet

2 eggs, well beaten
2 oz lean ham, minced
2 mushrooms, sliced
1 green onion, minced
1 oz cheddar cheese, shredded

Spray nonstick skillet with nonstick spray. Add ham, mushrooms and onion, sauté on low until tender. Add eggs and cook until set, stirring constantly. Transfer to a warm plate, sprinkle with cheese and serve!

Beef & Broccoli Stir Fry

3 oz flank steak, well trimmed
½ cup broccoli florets, blanched or frozen thawed
2 tbsp beef broth
1 tsp lite soy sauce
¼ tsp sesame oil
½ tsp garlic minced
Salt and pepper to taste

Slice beef against the grain into 1/8 inch ribbons. Sprinkle with salt & pepper, set aside. In nonstick skillet add beef broth, soy sauce, sesame oil and garlic. Cook over low for 1 minute and then add beef. Cook quickly until no longer pink (about 2-3 minutes). Add broccoli, mix well and serve on warm plate.

And don’t forget the pancakes for breakfast either!

Cinnamon Egg White Pancakes

3 egg whites
¼ tsp cinnamon
Nonstick cooking spray, butter flavor
Davinci or Torani sugar free syrup

Beat 3 egg whites and cinnamon until stiff. Spray small saucepan with nonstick spray. Spread egg whites evenly into pan and cook on low. Once the underside is golden brown, spray top of egg with nonstick spray, flip and repeat for other side.

We use sugar free syrups on these tasty pancakes. Davinci or Torani syrups are delicious on these and in coffee or meal replacement shakes, too. These syrups are available at Walmart stores in the coffee isle. We also recommend I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter, Fat Free for these pancakes.

We hope you have enjoyed reading your e-book brought to you as a courtesy of Kimkins.com.

September 19, 2007 at 1:41 pm

Down with Kimkins!

This e-book clearly is not written by Heidi! I am aghast at all the grammatical and spelling errors. HD is too narcissistic to ever produce this travesty of “literature”.

From being at LCF for more than five years now, I can safely say that Tippy wrote this. Just look at some of her past posts and it becomes apparent that this is her writing style.

Also, I believe that if Kimmer wrote this she would have mentioned her favourite term, “The Domino Effect”.

Seriously ladies, and I use the term looslely, pack it in already. You have lost!!!





Bye-Bye KimATC

10 09 2007

After we provided some background details on one Kimkins staffer, KimATC, she quickly fled into the confines of the Kimkins website, leaving her friends at Low Carb Friends.

Guess what Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will wake up to learn?

Today, in a move calculated to ensure some readers saw it before it is deleted, she posted her goodbye to members.

Bye-Bye KimATC!

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September 10, 2007 at 1:44 pm

kimatc

Okay enough is enough. I did NOT stop posting at LCF because of Kimmer – it never had ANYTHING to do with her. I stopped posting at LCF because someone I thought was a good friend posted personal and private information that was only shared in an email. An unknown blogger (I think you are “RightNow” at LCF right?) doesn’t have that kind of power.

September 10, 2007 at 1:45 pm

kimatc

and you will delete my name out of your search word list

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You were a legitimate employee of Kimkins, therefore a valid search term here as we profiled your position and relationship to the Kimkins website. Sorry, no can do!

September 10, 2007 at 3:29 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Kim I would assume since you are a “certified trainer” you would not condone a program that boasts the ability to lose mass amounts of weight with no exercise. That’s just my thought on it though. AND her name is HEIDI! But good job for leaving non the less.

September 10, 2007 at 3:55 pm

Chimp

KimATC is a victim!

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 3:59 pm

Kimkins Dangers

We are hearing that KimATC is in fact banned from the Kimkins website. Is this true?

September 10, 2007 at 4:12 pm

Chimp

I think so. It’s posted here.

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 4:36 pm

flowerpower

According to the thread Chimp posted, KimATC is blaming me for information posted about her. If anyone knows why, I’d love to hear it. What did the author of this blog ever get from me? I don’t even know who this author is? I would have guessed Tooter, but it doesn’t matter.

My concern for KimATC all along was the fact that I believed Kimmer was taking advantage of her. I posted about that quite a few times on the fascination thread and elsewhere on LCF.

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We will clarify what we can. While we will not divulge our source, we can assure you our original information on the issue did not originate from Flowerpower or someone named Tooter.

September 10, 2007 at 4:46 pm

OddManOut

Ducky you said you’d remove it.

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/getting-to-know-you-kimatc/

August 24th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

Maggie
Ducky, if KimATC disassociated with Kimkins and quit her staff position, would you remove this post about her?

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While she remains on staff and promoted as such, she remains part of the Kimkins team, thus this post shall remain. If she leaves Kimkins and is no longer on staff and is removed from the Kimkins team page, and no longer is providing advice within the Kimkins forums, then yes, this post shall be removed since she is no longer associated with Kimkins.

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That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.

September 10, 2007 at 5:17 pm

OddManOut

There was no time limit in your promise.

September 11, 2007 at 3:13 am

concerned

[i]That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.[/i]

Wow… I totally support your effort to stop Heidi/Kimmer/Kimkins, but it seems a bit vindictive to continue to publicly scrutinize KimATC by continuing to post her profile after she has resigned.

How does continuing to embarrass KimATC help the effort to stop Kimmer?

September 11, 2007 at 5:42 pm

WOW

Ducky, I was a staunch supporter of yours, but now I realize that you are a liar, you never gave Kim a time line, ever. You are a liar and no better then Kimmer. Learn to keep your word and do the right thing.

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How we feel about this situation: Her departure carried no remorse for association with Kimmer/Heidi and made no attempt to disassociate from Kimkins and Kimmer. She may regret her association with the site and the woman, but she has no clearly stated such in any of her posts on various forums since she left. As we said before, a day late and a dollar short.

That said, we also must point out something we were not aware of at the time when we made our statement. Due to KimATC being a paid staffer, we cannot expunge material which may be relevant in an investigation given what is now known. We would like to be able to keep our word, even though we do feel her actions do not warrant such, but cannot at this time due to legal implications. Destruction of evidence does carry penalty and we are not willing to destroy materials potentially relevant to an investigation. As we noted, we DID remove her children’s names from the original article posted.

Thank you for your understanding.

September 11, 2007 at 6:20 pm

KimATC

Hey cut Ducky some slack. I have shared a lot of private emails with Becky and Christin and others. A small amount on a public board. But the biggest thing I learned from Ducky is NOT to post anything personal on the web. You just never know who is reading it, copying it, and posting it elsewhere.

Just think of the irony of this, changing the “terms” afterwards sounds kind of like changing a TOS after one has already agreed to it. 🙂

I appreciate the above comments, I really do. But this is Ducky’s blog and he/she can do as he/she sees fit. So, let’s just move on please 🙂 I believe he has more current and relevant things to deal with.

September 11, 2007 at 6:23 pm

WOW

Ok, lets move on, cut some slack, your right! Ducky is simply a liar. Heidi is simply a liar. I think Kimmer feels she has more important things to do as well 🙂

September 11, 2007 at 8:07 pm

Disappointed

Ducky, since I have been searching for and have yet to find anything to contradict this as of today:

“Her departure carried no
remorse for association
with Kimmer/Heidi and
made no attempt to
disassociate from Kimkins
and Kimmer.
She may regret her association
with the site and the woman,
but she has no clearly stated
such in any of her posts on
various forums since she left.”

I agree that that is very disconcerting.

Perhaps it would be wise to avoid making any further promises that an entry will be removed if they leave, unless you are satisfied with them appearing to leave for that reason instead of conviction.





Kimkins Members Attack Child on Kimkins Forum

7 09 2007

In an update following the dangerous advice to the 14 year old girl within the Kimkins website (clearly contrary to Heidi Diaz’s claim that teens are not allowed in her site), the teen posted that she’s doing better, eating more calories and seeking advice for health outside the Kimkins site. In what can only be described as a viscious attack on this child, members were quick to reply with the following, and keep in mind these are adults replying to a child,

OSusana: Glad you lost the weight on KIMKINS…. You didn’t LOSE iT eating bananas and bread, peanut butter and oatmeal…
You lost it following Kimkins…. Good for you…
We are here to lose weight just like you did…. DOING KIMKINS…. why on EARTH would we want to break away and go eat bananas
and all the other carbs that made us fat….?

Surley you jest…. pffftttt…

.o.. go eat your peanut butter and banana sandwiches….

Another adult, who appears to know this is a child, replies,

this topic you created called its NOT over…. we ADULTS know how to eat well and HOW to encorportate other types of food back in our lives in moderation, we also know how to see our medical doctor for any concerns and we adults know how to take our multi-vitamins daily.. It’s NOT about the food, its about how you live your LIFE. I am happy that you lost the weight and then created a plan that is good for YOU.

Kimmers way of eating has saved thousands if not millions of lives and WE LOVE KIMMER and protect her from people like YOU.

so please go about your merry way and take your ass on!

The thread has since been deleted, but email verifications of its existence and all posts made remain. Amazing how adults treated this child, isn’t it?

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September 7, 2007 at 3:53 pm

Kim

How could anybody do this to a child? Let alone a child who is obviously reaching out for help. My guess is, the 14 year old probably got banned too.

September 7, 2007 at 4:22 pm

kkatastrophediet

Yes and apparently I was banned over this thread for informing the obnoxious posters that it was a 14 year old–rethink your posts.
I also told the girl Congrats and she should start her own blog, with permission of course.
Definitely a reason to be banned from a site I PAID FOR. Thread’s gone but I have screen shots, so, it’s not forgotten…

September 7, 2007 at 4:26 pm

OddManOut

“Kimmers way of eating has saved thousands if not millions of lives and WE LOVE KIMMER and protect her from people like YOU.”

I’d like to see the statistics to back that claim. After they’re finished genuflecting.

September 7, 2007 at 4:26 pm

kkatastrophediet

And, another thing–the posters claimed not to know it was a 14 year old, and that she should let someone know. How about we do two things:
1) Don’t allow minors to remain members by refunding their money and blocking them AND
2) You posters (you know who you are) should not speak to anyone that way–what makes you think it is okay if it is a grown up? Open mouth insert FOOT.

September 8, 2007 at 7:26 pm

osuzana

My comment is THIS!

I made the comment to the poster, not knowing she was a 14 year old… HOW would anyone know that?

and Don’t you dare chastize me about how a person should address another adult on this issue… You all created this heat…at LCF
I have been to the LCF and read the horrible way peolpe over there referred to the people on the Kimkins web site…

We were “brainwashed” idiots who were drinking “the kool aid”
nice huh?

These are Outrageous statements, and there were many, many more..

My comments to this so called 14 year old were justified… after SHE made comments about how she lost the weight successfully while ON Kimkins,

and then turned around urging everyone to get out while we can… and then wondering if she would get banned because of it??

I was defending the web site and the plan…it works…she just admitted that!
And you bet, there are a lot of people on edge at that web site…so of course we will defend it, and since there was no way of knowing she was 14 we defended it as though she were any other of the adult moles in there spying stealing peoples posts, and spreading BAD AIR, and urging people to defect.

I simply told her to go eat her peanut butter and banana sandwiches, after SHE JUST GOT DONE BRAGGING in that very post that was WHAT SHE WAS eating! although not in that order…

I am so SICK of seeing half truths about this diet.
WE DON”T CARE ABOUT KIMMER…..we are there to lose weight, can’t you GET that?
I don’t want to have coffee with her, or see if she pays her taxes.

many of you have NOT even done the plan, so how would you know?
and most of you ignore the fact, that this plan WORKS!!!

and you ignore the fact that many did not join the web site to sit with kimmer…whomever she is…. WE DON’T CARE!!!

The web site is “us” the people who enjoy being there!
We have formed a wonderful community there, it is the people on the web site that make the web site what is is … not Kimmer..

Now that it is invaded by LCF worms it is very hard to be there anymore.
and that is sad…

Let me ask you this… when you joined LCF…did you join it for TOM? or for the community support?
I joined LCF for the support and when I joined I didn’t even know WHO Tom was …nor did I care.

I’m beginning to care tho’ because of the blood thirsty lynch mob his site has spawned… what is going on there, is no better than what kimkins is being accused of… ruthlessness on both sides..its sick!

I have read posts on LCF stating how horrible the Kimkins site is because of her deleting posts and banning people, and reading PM’s

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? SERIOUSLY????
I think she learned how to do that FROM LCF. What a joke!
WHAT A JOKE! Are you all forgetting something??
LCF was the forerunner of Kimkins… she got good training.

It’s time LCF looks in its own back yard and cleans it up, before it goes any further launching vendettas against someone else!

I am leaving Kimkins… Not because of anything that the community there has done…
but because of the underhanded deviousness that LCF has allowed to happen there.. when I post something and then see it elsewhere and only with half the truth, then I consider that deviousness, and just outrageous…

when you have to go STEALING peoples posts and twist them to your own way of thinking, or not state the whole truth, wellll… then something is just messed up!

Don’t have enough ammunition for your hate vendetta?… OK go dig some up and twist it your way… NICE!

as FOR THE 14 YEAR OLD…I AM SORRY TO HAVE OFFENDED HER… not my intent to a 14 year old… that is NOT who I am.
But she wrote what she wrote…and are you all saying a 14 year old can’t think abnd write what she feels because she is 14?… hogwash!
I knew what I was doing at that age. 14 year olds are NOT stupid!

Stop looking for excuses to fly your evil plane… stop using a 14 year old to keep your hate crusade going .
Get over it!

You need to know I am not defending Kimmer…. I am defending my post over there, and the GOOd people on that web site!

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Thank you for stopping by. You’ve spectacularly shown the world exactly the type of person you are. Bravo!

September 8, 2007 at 10:17 pm

osuzana

Thank you for stopping by. You’ve spectacularly shown the world exactly the type of person you are. Bravo!

You are so very welcome!…
perhaps I have shown the world that there are 2 sides to every story… and exposing, and explaining, something that is misleading is the RIGHT thing to do!

The “Sensationalism” in this headline is VERY misleading, It reads like a rag sheet ……like the National Enquirer….
NO ONE “ATTACKED A CHILD” tell the WHOLE true story… (yeah right)!

September 9, 2007 at 1:02 am

kkatastrophediet

It was Kimmer’s responsibility to block her access, per her stated “policy” as soon as she knew she was a teen. Instead she advised her she didn’t need anymore calories, KNOWING FULL WELL it was a teen. You don’t care who Kimmer is? Many members don’t. What does that say? There are MANY good people on that website, and thanks to the fact that I tried to let you and others know it was a 14 year old girl, in a non-confrontational way, I might add, I WAS BANNED. Were you? I was on that site for a year, and it is an awesome place for support. Unfortunately it is also a place where teens are told to not eat more (true, whether you want to admit it or not), where people are manipulated (you’ve seen Becky’s blog, right?) and where the owner is involved in shady business practices. If you are not defending Kimmer, does it really matter what address is on your screen and where your support comes from? No, if you’re not defending Kimmer, it shouldn’t.

September 9, 2007 at 1:17 am

GinaC at LCF

Good thing you don’t ‘CARE ABOUT KIMMER’ cause apparently Kimmer don’t care about you. Don’t believe me? Go read Becky’s latest!

September 9, 2007 at 1:27 am

graciej

Hi Osuzana,

Just wanted to let you know that I posted your comments at ALC, not LCF. I posted the whole thing. I didn’t twist it. How was it “half truth”? They were your words.

I find it hard to believe that you didn’t know that she is 14 because she has been a topic of much discussion on this blog and lcf for the last few weeks. But even giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn’t know she is 14, there is no excuse for that type of post directed at anyone. It was rude, period. But really, it was typical for you.

I have done kimkins. I have experienced the negative side effects that have been discussed here and elsewhere. I will continue to shine the light on the inside goings on of kimkins.com until that site no longer exists.

September 9, 2007 at 1:31 am

mariasol

How would you NOT know that she was 14? She had her pics in her signature (the same ones that have been posted all over the internet by now) AND there is that little button under her name that shows her birthdate when you click on it. This girl never hid her age on the board.

September 9, 2007 at 1:45 am

Karen

So, Osuzana…you don’t care that Kimmer sells her website and her diet plan based on her own success with it….even though that success has been proved to be a lie?? Have you read the blogs about Kimmer? Do you see all her lies? The lies she has been telling for years? And that honestly doesn’t bother you???
I really can’t understand that mindset.

September 9, 2007 at 1:56 am

Kimkins Dangers

So.. you’re all so close over there, such a great bonded community, so tight knit and loving and all that.. but you didn’t know that regular poster (who WE all knew) was a teen? Riiiiiiight.

September 9, 2007 at 2:31 am

Kimmerexia

osuzana freaks out: “We were “brainwashed” idiots who were drinking “the kool aid”
nice huh?”

That’s “brainwashed idiots who were drinking the SUGAR-FREE Kool-Aid,” hun.

Diet Coke flavored. That way it’s even allowed during extended periods of fasting and laxative abuse.

September 9, 2007 at 7:17 am

kkatastrophediet

Were you banned? Let us know! List being compiled at
http://kkatastrophediet.wordpress.com/

September 9, 2007 at 2:21 pm

ban kimmer

Again I maintain WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? Every kimmeroonie supporter is so angry and ugly when posting. Sorry that some of us found fault in the way you spoke to the teen. Let me make it easier on you, I don’t care if you were talking to a kid or adult your post was juvenile! Go eat your peanut buter sandwich? That’s so stupid. You sound like the fat kid at the playground picking on all the other fat kids.

We, the people who actually care about people haven’t even made those fat joke comments to your leader as we have all been there done that at some time.

Why is it ok for you to make ugly comments like that?

Because you are just as bad as her. You don’t care about anyone but yourself, and you don’t care about anything but the diet working.

Well punkin I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….the diet does work, so does crank, heroin and tape worms but no one is touting useing those are they? DUH! Of course if you stop eating and drink only water or diet coke you’ll lose weight a retarded monkey could have figured that out. What you need to understand is you are doing damage to your metabolism.

But don’t think about that now. And when you are 40 yrs old and you can’t lose all the weight you will gain back let’s see who’s hurling fat jokes then ok? Sheesh!

September 10, 2007 at 1:22 pm

Bye-Bye Osuzana! « Kimkins Exposed

[…] Monday, September 10th, 2007 in low carb friends, online tracking, Low-Calorie Diet, Kimkins Diet, kimkins fraud, kimkins controversy, Osuzana, kimkins admins, kimkins dieting, Kimkins.com, vLCD, dieting, lies, Diet, Weight Loss, Low-Fat, Malnutrition, Heidi Diaz, Kimmer, Kimkins, security In a very vocal diatribe recently, Kimkins member Osuzana made quite a spectacle of herself here in comments. […]

October 3, 2007 at 7:33 pm

schemingturkey

hey everyone,

i just joined and wanted to say hi. 🙂

October 19, 2007 at 6:44 pm

hollywoodheidi

Hi! I just found this forum and it looks really cool.

Now, I gotta run off and read some posts. 🙂

October 25, 2007 at 2:01 pm

Speajepireeld

What’s Up?,

I’m just starting here. And it feels like an awesome forum.

I just wanted to give a nice hello to all of you here. 🙂

-Dana

November 14, 2007 at 11:14 am

keydaytaf

Hello
I’ve just registered at the forum. This is my first message.
Please don’t become angry about me.
Thank you.

January 3, 2008 at 1:22 am

WhereistheLOVE

osuzana’s comments, her demeanor and energy in general is what perpetuates the stereotype that women are “catty”.

April 11, 2008 at 4:52 am

upliftist

Hello my friends 🙂 😉