Tippytoes Salary Negotiation

5 10 2007

With all that happened yesterday and last night, you may have missed that theTRUTH posted private messages between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) that detailed the salary negotiation that occured prior to Tippy accepting a paid position on Kimkins.

Read full details here.

We know for a fact that the salary Tippytoes accepted was less than previous paid staff, but Kimmer played it that she was paying Tippy well.





Kimkins Success Story Faked

4 10 2007

Success Story “Annette” is a fake!

The ‘after’ picture above is a Russian “model” named Svetlana; her portfolio is available through Elena Model’s, a site which appears to be a service for men to meet Russian women. Note the identical picture as above is on the left sidebar of photos to view.

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If you have not yet watched the KTLA broadcast, you can watch the video here. Tonight KTLA will broadcast part 2 at 10:00 PM PDT.

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October 4, 2007 at 1:19 am

omgwtf

Bet you almost anything the infamous “red dress photo” came from this or a similar site. Because who would reasonably expect an American *woman* to ever cruise these sites and recognize a ripped “success story” photo? Heidi probably thought she was quite safe in lifting those photos.

October 4, 2007 at 1:20 am

Michalle

OMG!! That is (almost) unbelievable!! I’m ‘pretty sure’ that would be considered fraud! Good God, what hasn’t Heidikin thought of???

October 4, 2007 at 1:26 am

regandy

I bet you that woman in the RED dress is here also … somewhere! Her facial features and makeup have a european look… possibly Russian, you think?

Worth looking into… I would REALLY like to know who that woman is!!

October 4, 2007 at 1:27 am

ally

I have been waiting for the source of these “success” photos to come to light. There seems to be no end to this story. “Kimmer/Heidi” better get her legal “ducks” in a row.

October 4, 2007 at 1:39 am

Tooter

She also stole the kimkins logo from that site.

Take a look

:http://www.elenasmodels.com/services/membership.htm

October 4, 2007 at 1:46 am

Deni

And Svetlana is listed at 110 pounds! I bet she wouldn’t be to happy to see her “after” story listed at 142!!! 🙂

October 4, 2007 at 1:50 am

Ginger

I never joined Kimkins, so I’m not familiar with the members there. However, I’m convinced many of the success stories are fabricated. Their before/after face shots don’t look similar enough. Or they look too young and firm to have lost a huge amount of weight that fast. Some of the stories sound gimmicky, like they were written by PR instead of average people.

Has anyone compiled a list of which of those success stories are traceable to specific members, and which are mysterious?

October 4, 2007 at 1:58 am

anonymouse

The look, quality, and background of this shot resemble the red dress shot very much in my mind — low-budget studio shot.

October 4, 2007 at 2:02 am

jenx

OMG. You can’t make this stuff up. Hahahaha.

October 4, 2007 at 2:39 am

Gordi

Who found the pic?

October 4, 2007 at 2:42 am

Chimp

Maybe this Russian bombshell was only able to achieve her dream of becoming a model after hot enough to date an American man until she did Kimkins and used Kimmer’s Retin A program.

I don’t think any of us realized that Kimmer is such an international globe trotting philanthropic success. It must be hell when one is such a private person. Serving orphans, obese Russians, helping the blind . . . No wonder she hides behind her good fat friend Heidi Diaz.

October 4, 2007 at 2:42 am

TerryC

I KNEW this was a fake…I tried to post the pictures on LCF before to ask if anyone else thought they were fake, but I didn’t know how and then I messed it up and then I gave up…But I was right.

October 4, 2007 at 3:05 am

Michalle

Tooter is correct . . . she did steal the logo from that same website. How much do you want to bet the red dress photo came from there too!?!? The poses of some of the girls and quality of the pictures are identical to the red dress photo.

October 4, 2007 at 3:07 am

itscloudyinhere

What about Annette? Is she known to others beside Heidi?

Have any of the “before’s” spoken up or do they not know that they’re being featured on that site?

October 4, 2007 at 4:05 am

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

The “Dina” after pic at Kimkins has been proven to be a fake also. A poster named stardust at LCF found that pic at one of the Russian bride sites too. See page 47 of the Fascination Thread #5 at LFC.

http://www.kimkins.com/component/option,com_cxportfolio/task,showdetails/id,4/Itemid,/

October 4, 2007 at 5:27 am

Mimi

Good catch, Tooter!

October 4, 2007 at 5:48 am

2big4mysize

lowcarb4me found 2 more http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/kimkins/519036-why-fascination-kimmer-5-a-55.html#post9301305

so does that leave any real ones?

October 4, 2007 at 5:59 am

freedomtochoose

Interesting stuff. However, if I recall correctly, Slamboard posted that Catherine McDonald did the website programming, marketing, and technical stuff and assembled content so it may be wise to hear from her before accusing anybody of “stealing” logos. Maybe she could also say whether Kimmer was solely responsible for success stories at the beginning of the partnership.

Also, way back on this blog at the time of the “Selling an Image” post, there was a group of success story photos and commentary as to why they might be fake, but those later disappeared from the blog. Why were they removed, Ducky?

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Perhaps you’re mistaking our blog for another? We did not tackle the issue of faked success stories previously, nor remove a post about such.

October 4, 2007 at 11:06 am

Princess Dieter

Well, as of this minute, the LCF ladies have found a bunch of false success story pics from the Russian bride/model sites. I believe it’s 10 totally confirmed fakes (with links to the Kimkins success story and to the Russian dating/model sites).

Ten.

Oh, yeah. That red dress pic will be showing up. It’s a matter of time.

The Princess….really needs to go sleep…

October 4, 2007 at 6:01 pm

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October 4, 2007 at 6:57 pm

Stiff

I TOTALLY guessed Russian!!!!

I figured a good percentage would be Russian!





Kimmer Continues to Lie, “I am not Heidi”

3 10 2007

In an exclusive release of a detailed information from Kimkins, theTRUTH posts a message in which Kimmer continues to insist she is not Heidi Diaz, even though we all know better.

It is both shocking to see and incredibly telling about how far Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will go to continue perpetuating the lies and frauds.

Kimmer wrote:

We are surprised that the extent of their investigation was to post information from the anti-Kimmer websites. We cannot make this any more plain that I am not Heidi. She and I have been friends since high school and when I began posting on the internet nearly 10 years ago I used Heidi. As I’ve mentioned, I also use other names when writing, particularly for men’s magazines. Heidi is an owner of Kimkins.com and nothing more. How do I say this nicely? She doesn’t “care” about Kimkins. Her interests are in other areas entirely. I did not trust Catherine (former partner) and Heidi stepped in as me. She has not seen the news clip but I will be seeing her this weekend.

The news clip me of the “diet review” done by About.com which also only parrots the anti-Kimmer blogs. No medical review. No impartiality. Hundreds of pro-Kimkins members wrote to Laura Dolson (who was impressed with their intelligence she told me), but didn’t change her review at all.

Oh well, can’t win them all.

The focus of Kimkins.com has always been about weight loss. We want to keep that focus. We’ve had 3 new success stories submitted this week and CONGRATS to those members! We’ll have them up soon and thanks for your generosity in sharing to motivate others!

The Kimkins partners have formed a management group headed by Tippy Toes. All of the admins, partners, staff and I are hard at work behind the scenes making Kimkins a bigger and better site for our members. Tippy Toes has graciously accepted responsibility for coordinating everyone (when does that girl sleep) and she’s doing a stellar job!

If anyone has questions, ask an admin! Danielle & Wannabefit2 are Kimkins staffers. We appreciate the enormous amount of time all admins donate to Kimkins members. They are extremely generous people.

We’ve got some exciting features to announce very soon — all designed to help with life_style_ changes for permanent weight loss. Stay tuned!

Read the full post at theTRUTH Starts Here

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October 3, 2007 at 4:34 pm

Cryssi

She comments in the first paragraph about it being Heidi. Then she turns around and says “In the news clip of ME…”

Which is it you big, fat, liar?????

October 3, 2007 at 4:34 pm

On the Sidelines

Ok let me get this straight. She says she is not Hedi but a size 4 girl in a red dress. Well then way did she says this:

taken from above: “The news clip ME”

Ok how can she be a size 4 girl and big the woman in the news clip.

Wake up people this woman can not keep her lies straight anymore. Please wake up before you do serious damage to yourself.

October 3, 2007 at 4:35 pm

2big4mysize

if Heidi isn’t kimmer two questions

why didi kimmers podcast with Jimmy Moore voice come out of her mouth when she said no comment?

Why didn’t she just say no I am not that woman in that pic as I am not kimmer just a chilkdhood friend and employee?

October 3, 2007 at 4:46 pm

Dottie

I am going to need a roll-eye-ectomy after this….

October 3, 2007 at 4:49 pm

mac

Kimmer with friends like who needs enemies?

October 3, 2007 at 4:49 pm

mac

oops you

October 3, 2007 at 4:53 pm

JenX

lmfao. hidey you’re finished!

October 3, 2007 at 4:53 pm

Kim

So, let’s take her at her word (yes, I’m choking as I say that)…then why doesn’t she just prove she’s not Heidi? It’s as simple as a podcast, a news story (which I’m sure the reporter doing the story right now would give her the opportunity to do just that). PROVE it instead of sitting behind your keyboard and tripping yourself up on your lies.

Heidi – You have lied SO much, nobody believes ANYTHING you say…you can’t even keep your own lies straight anymore. Your own postings prove yourself wrong – there isn’t even a need for a P.I. anymore, you prove the lies for us. All that the Ducky’s and theTRUTH’s in the world have to do is copy and paste your own posts, you prove yourself wrong everytime. Your day in court is coming and if you were EVER a foster parent or CASA, your fingerprints are on record sweety, so sitting in front of a judge and saying you aren’t Heidi Diaz won’t work, just set you up for more charges – perjury. We know the truth, you know the truth, you are just grasping at straws.

Sorry for the rant, but on top of being duped out of my hard earned money, this woman is now insulting my intelligence. It it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it’s certainly not a dog, it’s a duck…yes, that pun is intended! It is Heidi, we all know it – and she continues to think she is going to get away with this.

October 3, 2007 at 5:20 pm

MicheleP

Hidey:

You are a lying sack of SNATT!

October 3, 2007 at 5:41 pm

Just Ducky

We accidentally deleted a comment and aren’t sure even which post it was made to. It included links to archives of the Kimkins website prior to the changes now underway. If that person can repost, it would be greatly appreciated.

October 3, 2007 at 5:46 pm

Kim

Tippy toes and management used together in the same sentence is just plain hilarious!!!

Does anybody know if anyone has posted or tried to post the link to the newscast on Kimkins today?

October 3, 2007 at 5:50 pm

itscloudyinhere

What will happen when Heidi is ordered by the court to produce kimmer and she can’t/won’t?

October 3, 2007 at 5:53 pm

itscloudyinhere

Remember that psychopaths don’t break even when they’re caught.
They typically try to befriend the police and detectives as someone who’s “not-guilty-just-trying-to-be-a-helpful-citizen” would.

October 3, 2007 at 6:59 pm

jwc

I just hope they don’t try to put Kimmer and Heidi in separate jail cells. Could get messy.

October 3, 2007 at 7:20 pm

Stiff

Heidi was her cousin, then her friend, then some random business partner, etc…pleaaaaaaaaaase.

Why would you be partner in something you care nothing about? It happens when big bucks are made and complicated projects arise, but it’s a diet site that apparently all you have to do is sit at your keyboard all day to control. I don’t think that comment is CLOSE to making sense about Heidi not caring.

ALL before pictures match with Heidi. The fun part is that Kimmers old avatar on LCF is the same person in the before pictures/dating site pictures of Heidi…which is the same person in Kimmer’s before picture…

….yeaaaaah.

How can someone be so dumb? She doesn’t follow the diet so obviously doesn’t have light-headedness, nausea, or brain damage…except maybe from staring at the screen all day…

“I did not trust Catherine (former partner) and Heidi stepped in as me”

Does that just not add up to anyone else?

October 3, 2007 at 7:31 pm

Dottie

Catherine never met kimmer/heidi, so that’s just an off-the-wall claim anyway.

October 3, 2007 at 10:11 pm

antikimkins

Right, Stiff, yet she has also claimed that Heidi knows nothign about Kimkins and doesn’t care, she just collects the money. So how would Heidi “step in for her” without any Kimkins knowledge?

And IF IF IF IF Heidi and Kimmer were two different peeps (and pigs really do fly) why doesn’t Heidi just whip out Kimmer’s pic and say, “look, HERE”s the woman in the red dress who lost all the weight, this is Kimmer!” She doesn’t even try to defend herself. If that was MY friend and she was the one who lost the weight but I was bankrolling the business, I’d sure put her face on everything and make it clear that she was the success story. I wouldn’t run and hide and say No Comment.

Sheesh, people, wake up!!!

October 3, 2007 at 10:12 pm

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October 4, 2007 at 2:28 am

Jazzy

Kimmer’s ‘before’ picture is without a doubt the same woman that Kimmer claims is Heidi.
So…she used a picture of Heidi as her before picture and then her own picture as her after picture??? Does she even know what she’s saying anymore.
How can anyone read that explanation and still believe her?

October 4, 2007 at 1:34 pm

Not Heidi Either

Kimmer isn’t Heidi?

Who cares? We’ll take Heidi. We can prove Heidi started Kimkins, we can prove she’s taking money for it, hiring the admins, paying for the server. She is Kimkins. If she’s not Kimmer, who cares, she’s as culpable and guilty as Kimmer then. If Kimmer has done such a good job pretending to be Heidi, then Heidi will not be able to prove she’s *not* Kimmer.

Let Heidi take the fall for you, Kimmer, we don’t care. We’ll take her and let her pay for your mistakes. She won’t be able to avoid paying for them because she won’t be able to prove she’s not Kimmer unless you come forward and then we have you.

WIN-WIN. For us. Either we, we got ya (or Heidi). 😉

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Becky Comments About Kimmer Advising Very Low Calorie Intake

2 10 2007

In our comments, Becky (former admin Littlebit) commented about Kimmer’s private emails to her regarding very low calorie intake.

Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) wrote:

Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.

Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is “high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight loss will be different. Don’t forget people who dabble in days of fasting, too.

If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else, maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was their weight loss accomplished by methods we would want to follow? Many people on this site have a problem with very low calories and refuse.





Tippytoes Claims this is War

2 10 2007

In a ridiculous explanation about monitoring of private messages sent between members, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) had this to say about the matter.

Tippytoes wrote:

The reason for the PM’s being monitored is to find the sources who are hacking in by simply reading…

We are making this known to you so that there is no misunderstanding later.

As far as who is reading them, I will not say for protection of that admin. That admin has a job to do for the good of this site and the good of its members. Nothing more, nothing less. The same admin has been very busy uncovering a lot elsewhere and bit by bit we are winning this war.

I am hoping we will not need to do this forever. But we have to face facts here. The hackers came on to this site with harm’s intent. They did PM to each other and we know this now. So this is why we are monitoring and what we hope to stop.

Again, we apologize but feel we must take this action.

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October 2, 2007 at 2:55 pm

Kim

But yet didn’t all the previous posts say that nobody had access to PM’s? So now, they are being monitored and they’re tryint to justify why.

October 2, 2007 at 3:07 pm

TerryC

So the hackers are getting into KK and sending each other pm’s? Now why would they do such a stupid thing? Why didn’t they just call each other? So many questions.

October 2, 2007 at 4:06 pm

Anonymous

Um… weren’t the PMs accessible to admins *before* they started showing up on the internet?

October 2, 2007 at 4:29 pm

sandsandles

The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.

OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.

Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.

If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.

October 2, 2007 at 4:30 pm

sandsandles

… sorry, posted the cruise comment under wrong topic… but still applies!

October 2, 2007 at 5:06 pm

ixtapacheryl

OMG! I can’t believe those remaining members are buying that excuse! Those poor people can’t even share with one another their outside e-mail addresses. Why won’t Heidi/TT allow that?

October 2, 2007 at 5:43 pm

Julie

Okay, so the hackers are supposed to be smart enough to hack into the system and read the PMs but too stupid to realize that someone else might be reading their PMs.

And this is what people are supposed to believe? Seriously? What kind of logic is that?

October 2, 2007 at 8:23 pm

theTRUTH

If she wants war, I have plenty of “ammo” saved up…

October 2, 2007 at 9:15 pm

Princess Dieter

Well, there was no WAR before and all the admins and Heidi/Kimmer had free access to read PMs. Why doesn’t that scare members?

And then it came down to only Heidi and one admin having access, cause, well, “Kimmer” stopped trusting the others?

And now it’s being monitored cause of hackers?

My advice to Kimkinettes: Flee. How can you trust anything the rulership at Kimkins says? Even when they go back and say, “All is well. PMs are private,” well, you know they WON’T BE, cause they NEVER WERE. Heidi/Kimmer wouldn’t tolerate not being able to see everything going on in her kingdom. FLEE.

The Princess

October 3, 2007 at 3:34 am

ghoov

An admin of a Forum should never have reason to read PM’s, it’s none of their business. Yes, it is their site but still it’s wrong… unless they put it in writing in the TOS. Anyone know if it’s in the TOS?

Ah well perhaps after they read this, it will magically appear – get some screenshots people.

October 3, 2007 at 10:37 pm

Sarah van

What an idiot. It’s not “hacking” if you have a paid membership and access to the forum. That is, after all, what you pay MONEY for. If you don’t want to post and instead just use the IM function, that’s your right.

October 5, 2007 at 10:16 pm

claudia

What a shame all this has happened. Shame for the members, shame for the dieters, shame for the implicated admins and mods and, yes, shame for kimmer.

Just to state my position: I’m not a kimmer supporter. I am, however, a kimkins supporter. There is no doubt that that regime has helped many people lose weight both at kimmers and at lowcarbfriends.

I won’t sport with anyone’s intelligence by supporting the insupportable however as anyone considered that kimmer herself probably got caught in her own celebrity?

She went from doyen of diet on LCF to Empress Protein on kimkins. A heady ride for anyone, let alone someone who may not be intellectually, emotionally or psychiatrically equipped. Seems to me, she got strapped into the ride as much as anyone.

The fact that she’s now overweight (I do believe that she lost all that weight originally but gained it back, probably through eating to ameliorate the feelings she has about being a criminal) doesn’t take away from the fact that many people have lost, and continue to lose, weight on kimkins.

And people forgotten the years and years she spent on lowcarbfriends tirelessly and pleasantly helping people. It seems incongrous and quite barely believable that she intentionally, five years out, decided to become “kimmer”, the wonder dieter, with the long-term view of $40 per subscriber.

I think she started her own site and voila! it became something extraordinary. From there, she made some really dreadful decisions which culminated in her being America’s No.1 Most Wanted – Internet Division.

Can you imagine the pressure? Even if she has, as has been speculated, a sociopathic personalithy disorder, she must be close to break down or worse.

Her most foolish mistake was to continue to stuff down doughnuts whilst she espoused contrary principals. I can’t even imagine what kind of aridity that produces in a person, although I guess all those subscription fees will should cheer her up!

Had she fessed up and told everyone she’d fallen off the wagon then she wouldn’t be potentially going to gaol.





Tippytoes Blames Members for Health Problems

2 10 2007

This morning, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) is digging in and trying to explain the changes made to the homepage of the Kimkins website. In it, she lays blame for health problems on those following the Kimkins plans.

Tippytoes wrote:

What happened to Kimmer’s Red Dress Picture?

We are making many new and positive changes to this site every single day. We have chosen to remove the red dress photo and in place use People magazine. Too much contravery surrounds that pic and rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it. The success stories are still there although someone else did ask me where they went. I checked and they are there. Not sure if this is a tech glitch or not. But I can look further into it. Does anyone else not see them?

I think it was well said previously that Kimkins diet has been abused by some members at their own doings who now point the finger in blame towards us. We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own. We do not promote starvation, laxitive abuse or any of the like and we are making this clear. There will always be room for improvements and we are always willing to make them. We have even introduced a cycle option as part of the positive change and to help transition towards maintenance later.

We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff. However, rest assured we have some new gathering ideas in the works for next year. What we have in mind will be better and will geer more in tuned with Kimkins diets than an all you can eat fest cruise. I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.

The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here. We have a walk for breast cancer coming up and I will be posting more soon. In addition we are considering a fundraiser challenge to benefit Toys For Tots. Members participating would make and pay their own pledges directly to Toys For Tots. There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.

So hang tight, my fellow Kimkinettes! Change is GOOD!

I want you all to not be afraid to see positive changes being made. This only means we are here to stay and getting better all the time.

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October 2, 2007 at 2:32 pm

Dottie

“rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it.”

But of course… much easier just to pretend it never existed.

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

Melt’s contribution to the renovations?

October 2, 2007 at 2:37 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 2:46 pm

Kimmerexia

Tippytoes sez: “We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own.”

No need to “abuse” Kimkins. At 500 to 1,000 calories, it’s already starvation!!!

Tippytoes spins: “We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard [SIC] for Kimkins members as well as staff.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wouldn’t have anything to do with Regandy, the cruise organizer, jumping ship from the sinking good ship Kimtanic, would it? Noooooooooo, of course not!!!

Tippytoes defines: “Kimkinettes!”

Ah, so THAT’S what the remaining smattering of duped sugar-free kool-aid drinking minions are officially called.

Tippytoes pathetically optimistically quips: “The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here.”

Yes indeed. The lawsuits, governmental investigations and transitioning former KimkinETTES from starvation to healthful ways of eating is gonna be a friggin’ laugh a minute.

October 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm

Kim

“I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.”

Don’t trust the members to make their own decisions on what they eat? Why not tell the real reason….Heidi still wouldn’t show her face and too many questions were asked about it, so it was decided to just remove all info and hope they’ve banned everyone who knew about Heidi’s refusal.

October 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Members abusing the plan and eating low calories against Kimmer” will?
This is typical “blame the victim” abusive thinking.

Anyone who has been around Kimkins for long knows that ultra-low calories was always Kimmer’s intention. It is precisely what makes it Kimkins, not Atkins.

When I was on Boot Camp, exercising, eating an average of 465 calories a day, and stalled, and had the nerve to complain about it and decide to increase my fats, Kimmer’s emailed response was (and i quote):

“Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in
calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.

Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is
“high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the
Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight
loss will be different. Don’t forget people who
dabble in days of fasting, too.

If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else,
maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was
their weight loss accomplished by methods we would
want to follow? Many people on this site have a
problem with very low calories and refuse. “

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October 2, 2007 at 3:36 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 3:40 pm

Kimmerexia

Funny that Tippytoes doesn’t refer to the pic as “Kimmer’s AFTER picture.”

No, it’s referred to as “the red dress picture” because even Jeannie Baitinger, Director of Public Relations for Kimkins doesn’t believe that it could possibly Kimmer’s AFTER picture.

October 2, 2007 at 4:31 pm

regandy

The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.

OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.

Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.

If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.

October 2, 2007 at 4:42 pm

anani

I am sick beyond words that Tippy would put the blame on the members for taking the diet to extremes. The extreme nature of this diet was carefully coached and taught by Kimmer herself. The following is a direct copy of Kimmer’s words to a newbie. I have the screen shot to back this up if it is ever needed.

Member asks Kimmer:
I’m new here – just started yesterday.

Which plan is designed for the fastest weight loss results?

I’m on KE and don’t have a problem with it. I was looking at Boot Camp and wondering is it’s designed for quicker weight loss results?

Thanks!!

Kimmer’s response:
The very fastest would be the Meal Replacement Shake option because there’s no chance of messing up. 450 calories a day, that’s it.

Second is Boot Camp because the protein and salads are limited, but someone could still pick a higher calorie protein by accident.

K/E was originally the fastest, but it’s not always anymore because some people tend to be creative about what a “lean” protein is plus overeating with too big portions or small snacks all day .

Kimkins is the slowest and still way faster than any other non-Kimkins plan except water fasting.

Another Member asks:
Hi Kimmer

You just posted a relpy that the Replacement Shake option is 450 caloris a day but when I look at the plan under KIMKINS Diet Plans it says 800 calories a day. Which is correct?

Kimmer’s response:
It would be 800 if you choose 200 calorie shakes and 4 per day. Personally, as long as I’m doing shakes (which are not incredibly exciting anyway), I’d find a 150 calorie version and limit to 3 (skipping a snack shake).

But I’m impatient.

October 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm

ixtapacheryl

“A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory”

OMG more fund raisers? No cruise scheduled because of safety issues?

October 2, 2007 at 5:05 pm

Stiff

So, this morning Yahoo greeted me with these articles:

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19365/6-diets-to-avoid

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19885/the-skinny-on-4-fad-diets;_ylt=AtuWsn6WiXWM8xqU5xWQeuka788F

Mmmmmmmm I smell Kimkins in those guidelines…

October 2, 2007 at 5:17 pm

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October 2, 2007 at 5:26 pm

Stiff

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

This really makes me laugh after Melt/Kimmer PM about animals. 🙂

October 2, 2007 at 6:16 pm

cando

I can’t believe this. Back in June when I posted on that site I was having “potty problems” I was told to try Exlax by several memebers and Kimmer. Becky Lil Bit came through with the suggestion of Smooth Move tea, which is herbal. I went with Becky’s suggestion and another one of two stalks of celery a day…that worked. ’cause I know that Exlax used on a regular basis can really mess you up big time.
But until people started complaining, they were promoting laxatives as a way of life. It seem to me that when I first joined, all people were eating on that site were eggwhites and Exlax. Back in my 20’s, I went on an Exlax, Dr. Pepper, M&M’s and cigerette diet for about a month, Lost tons of weight.
Man, I need to get me a web site and start sellin’ that. It was way more fun than egg whites and Exlax.

So, Tippy, your plan use to promote laxative use. Which attorney told you to stop?
And fundraisers? Man, that’s great. I guess getting $59.95 one time out of members isn’t good enough. “fund raisers” for the Pad My Pocket foundation. I’ll pass thank you.

October 2, 2007 at 6:36 pm

Antikimmerite

To top it all off SingingAss needs to learn to spell. Or edit. That was painful to read.

October 2, 2007 at 6:39 pm

finleysmom

This post made me so angry!! This was my reply on the site with my goodbye.

Too much controversy surrounding the red dress???? Are you kidding me??? Why not fix this then????? There should be NO controversy!!! FIX THIS by proving what is real! I don’t understand what the problem is. If the picture is Kimmer then PROVE IT! Why all the secrets, changes, drama, and lies??? WHY??? I have been around since the beginning on LCF. I was one of the first 20 members of Kimkins when all was hailed…”isn’t it nice to be on a site where you can speak freely and not have PM’s read and posts changed/deleted” WTF? This place is worse than LCF EVER was. What is wrong with you crazy people?? This is a nut house now. I can’t believe what has happened to this place. I feel so sad for the members who don’t understand that all of this change is a horrible sign. I am so sad it has come to this.

Goodbye all and good luck to finding what works for you!

October 2, 2007 at 6:43 pm

finleysmom

Oh, and yes I was banned for this post LOL!

October 2, 2007 at 9:06 pm

Princess Dieter

There is no limit to Tippy Toes’ reprehensible twisting of actual experiences and reality. Dang, that’s some shiny 30 pieces of silver there, Tips.

Controversy and the red dress? hahaha There would be no controversy if it was Kimmer, now would there be? The controversy is that it’s NOT.

And all that site scrubbing. Did you get all those Kimmer posts urging people to eat less, less, less and take laxatives? Did you?

And the members to blame? Boy. For someone who doesn’t follow the plan, you have some nerve judging those who DID in good faith.

You know, some people really do need to go down hard with the ship and captain…

So glad Christin and others are out there to put the lie to Tipper’s propaganda.

The Princess

October 2, 2007 at 9:52 pm

CR

“the red dress picture”

Why not say the “picture of Kimmer” LMAO…..

What a freakin JOKE!!!!

No cruise because there is food on it ROFLMAO…..

it just gets better everytime….the lies, the twists, the stupidity LOL

October 2, 2007 at 10:55 pm

moo

“We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff”

WTF lol. Oh and would someone PLEASE buy TT a friggen dictionary (and teach her how to use it).

October 2, 2007 at 11:56 pm

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October 3, 2007 at 7:36 am

Sue

Tippy – you’re a bitch!
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Morning Fodder

2 10 2007

Well, as all can see, the call to contact WordPress by those within Kimkins to shut Ducky up was for naught. We’re still here and will remain since we are not, as we said yesterday, in violation of the TOS, nor do we plan to violate the TOS anytime soon. We carefully consider our words before publication and always remain within the boundaries of the law and the terms of service we agreed to when we registered this blog.

After careful consideration, we have edited out our ‘in jest remark’ in a post regarding SingingLass and have retained the original so as to ensure its integrity should it be needed later.

For those reading, be aware that threatening others by phone, in person, or in email is a criminal offense. It is something we abhor and we will cooperate fully with authorities if we are approached about our records here. Enough said on that matter.

This morning we’re given a treat from theTRUTH, another private message exchange between Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) and melt (a member) to highlight they are indeed two different people.