Bye-Bye KimATC

10 09 2007

After we provided some background details on one Kimkins staffer, KimATC, she quickly fled into the confines of the Kimkins website, leaving her friends at Low Carb Friends.

Guess what Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will wake up to learn?

Today, in a move calculated to ensure some readers saw it before it is deleted, she posted her goodbye to members.

Bye-Bye KimATC!

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September 10, 2007 at 1:44 pm

kimatc

Okay enough is enough. I did NOT stop posting at LCF because of Kimmer – it never had ANYTHING to do with her. I stopped posting at LCF because someone I thought was a good friend posted personal and private information that was only shared in an email. An unknown blogger (I think you are “RightNow” at LCF right?) doesn’t have that kind of power.

September 10, 2007 at 1:45 pm

kimatc

and you will delete my name out of your search word list

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You were a legitimate employee of Kimkins, therefore a valid search term here as we profiled your position and relationship to the Kimkins website. Sorry, no can do!

September 10, 2007 at 3:29 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Kim I would assume since you are a “certified trainer” you would not condone a program that boasts the ability to lose mass amounts of weight with no exercise. That’s just my thought on it though. AND her name is HEIDI! But good job for leaving non the less.

September 10, 2007 at 3:55 pm

Chimp

KimATC is a victim!

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 3:59 pm

Kimkins Dangers

We are hearing that KimATC is in fact banned from the Kimkins website. Is this true?

September 10, 2007 at 4:12 pm

Chimp

I think so. It’s posted here.

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 4:36 pm

flowerpower

According to the thread Chimp posted, KimATC is blaming me for information posted about her. If anyone knows why, I’d love to hear it. What did the author of this blog ever get from me? I don’t even know who this author is? I would have guessed Tooter, but it doesn’t matter.

My concern for KimATC all along was the fact that I believed Kimmer was taking advantage of her. I posted about that quite a few times on the fascination thread and elsewhere on LCF.

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We will clarify what we can. While we will not divulge our source, we can assure you our original information on the issue did not originate from Flowerpower or someone named Tooter.

September 10, 2007 at 4:46 pm

OddManOut

Ducky you said you’d remove it.

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/getting-to-know-you-kimatc/

August 24th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

Maggie
Ducky, if KimATC disassociated with Kimkins and quit her staff position, would you remove this post about her?

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While she remains on staff and promoted as such, she remains part of the Kimkins team, thus this post shall remain. If she leaves Kimkins and is no longer on staff and is removed from the Kimkins team page, and no longer is providing advice within the Kimkins forums, then yes, this post shall be removed since she is no longer associated with Kimkins.

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That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.

September 10, 2007 at 5:17 pm

OddManOut

There was no time limit in your promise.

September 11, 2007 at 3:13 am

concerned

[i]That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.[/i]

Wow… I totally support your effort to stop Heidi/Kimmer/Kimkins, but it seems a bit vindictive to continue to publicly scrutinize KimATC by continuing to post her profile after she has resigned.

How does continuing to embarrass KimATC help the effort to stop Kimmer?

September 11, 2007 at 5:42 pm

WOW

Ducky, I was a staunch supporter of yours, but now I realize that you are a liar, you never gave Kim a time line, ever. You are a liar and no better then Kimmer. Learn to keep your word and do the right thing.

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How we feel about this situation: Her departure carried no remorse for association with Kimmer/Heidi and made no attempt to disassociate from Kimkins and Kimmer. She may regret her association with the site and the woman, but she has no clearly stated such in any of her posts on various forums since she left. As we said before, a day late and a dollar short.

That said, we also must point out something we were not aware of at the time when we made our statement. Due to KimATC being a paid staffer, we cannot expunge material which may be relevant in an investigation given what is now known. We would like to be able to keep our word, even though we do feel her actions do not warrant such, but cannot at this time due to legal implications. Destruction of evidence does carry penalty and we are not willing to destroy materials potentially relevant to an investigation. As we noted, we DID remove her children’s names from the original article posted.

Thank you for your understanding.

September 11, 2007 at 6:20 pm

KimATC

Hey cut Ducky some slack. I have shared a lot of private emails with Becky and Christin and others. A small amount on a public board. But the biggest thing I learned from Ducky is NOT to post anything personal on the web. You just never know who is reading it, copying it, and posting it elsewhere.

Just think of the irony of this, changing the “terms” afterwards sounds kind of like changing a TOS after one has already agreed to it. 🙂

I appreciate the above comments, I really do. But this is Ducky’s blog and he/she can do as he/she sees fit. So, let’s just move on please 🙂 I believe he has more current and relevant things to deal with.

September 11, 2007 at 6:23 pm

WOW

Ok, lets move on, cut some slack, your right! Ducky is simply a liar. Heidi is simply a liar. I think Kimmer feels she has more important things to do as well 🙂

September 11, 2007 at 8:07 pm

Disappointed

Ducky, since I have been searching for and have yet to find anything to contradict this as of today:

“Her departure carried no
remorse for association
with Kimmer/Heidi and
made no attempt to
disassociate from Kimkins
and Kimmer.
She may regret her association
with the site and the woman,
but she has no clearly stated
such in any of her posts on
various forums since she left.”

I agree that that is very disconcerting.

Perhaps it would be wise to avoid making any further promises that an entry will be removed if they leave, unless you are satisfied with them appearing to leave for that reason instead of conviction.





Kimkins, Not Safe for Diabetics, as per TOS

4 09 2007

Kkatastrophediet posted today about the changes to the Kimkins site Terms of Service. Within the change is a notable warning,

This program should not be attempted by anyone with the following conditions without prior approval from their physician: pregnant or nursing mothers, patients with history of gout, kidney failure or disease, gallbladder issues, those under the age of 18 and those with blood glucose issues such as diabetes or hypoglycemia. The content relayed on Kimkins.com is not to be interpreted as advocating the self-management of your medical condition(s) or those of your family.

Contrast that with the promotional page ‘Thinking About Kimkins?’ that lures the unsuspecting with the following bold statement,

Is Kimkins good for diabetics? Kimkins is perfect for all diabetics!

It appears Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will say anything to convince those reading her promotional material to sign up and pay her $60, even if it means potentially compromising the health of someone with diabetes. How shameful.

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September 4, 2007 at 3:36 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Bla bla bla “don’t sue me.” Bla bla bla “don’t tell anyone what I told you.” Bla bla bla “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.” Wtf ever. Wow…someone is really good at slide of hand!

Don’t forget Kimmeroonie, you said it was good for diabetics on your pod cast. 🙂

September 4, 2007 at 3:57 pm

Kimkins Dangers

Kimmeroonie, lol.

The “safe for all diabetics” issue is one that I have been very upset with from the beginning. Now suddenly her tos is changed and if you read the entire post at the Kkatastrophe blog, you’ll see how many times it says “WE ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANYTHING BAD THINGS THAT HAPPEN TO YOU ON THIS DIET”.

If the diet is so great, so healthy, so wonderful, why would they need to say that?

September 4, 2007 at 4:06 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Uh….let me expound….that would be because kimmeroonie is staring at the business end of a class action lawsuit. Woops!

September 4, 2007 at 4:20 pm

Healthy LCer

This is still on her home page:

And, Kimkins is the perfect diet for type 1 and 2 diabetics! Our program offers superior blood sugar control. In fact, many type 2 diabetes members get off their meds like Glucophage and Metformin!

September 4, 2007 at 4:46 pm

Laura

A disclaimer does not absolve you if you continue to make statements saying the opposite. Her promotion and terms of service/disclaimer are not aligned, thus she remains open to liability!

September 4, 2007 at 4:49 pm

ooBoo

Kimmer is way open to liability, she knows it and pretends it’s not there. I seriously hope her members initiate a class action suit soon, they have cause and should take the opportunity while the irons are hot, hot, hot!

September 4, 2007 at 4:58 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Yup and don’t forget that she’s been dumb enough to record her claims for all posterity on Jimmy’s pod cast. Good thinking! All it takes is a first year law student and someone’s out of business and refuinding all of her clients money. :))

September 4, 2007 at 5:36 pm

LisaLC

“Yup and don’t forget that she’s been dumb enough to record her claims for all posterity on Jimmy’s pod cast. Good thinking! All it takes is a first year law student and someone’s out of business and refuinding all of her clients money. :))”

IF that was her. How do we know? What prevents her from saying it was someone else posing as her? It was just a voice recording, after all. She has woven a tangled web, for sure. I can hardly wait until this whole thing is blown wide open.

September 5, 2007 at 3:32 am

ban kimmer

Oh trust me, if it gets to a court phase, they are going to do all they can to prove that it was her, including but not limited to finding out how Jimmy contacted her to make arrangements, what phone number was used, what email to set it up. It will be substantiated. And the SSKimmer will be sunk.





Getting to Know You: KimATC

24 08 2007

We’ve taken time to introduce you to some members of Kimkins staff. Today we shall introduce you to the person who Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) considers the ‘fitness guru’ for her members, KimATC. Since joining the Kimkins staff, no photos of Kim are including for members to see her like other staff members. We only know what information is included in her biography:

Kim has been an NATA Certified Athletic Trainer for 15 years and has worked as an athletic trainer at numerous levels including collegiate, high school, clinic plus published research. She is presently working for a very large children’s hospital coordinating a biomechanical and neuromuscular research project on ACL injuries in female athletes. She has had articles published in The American Journal of Sports medicine, Journal of Athletic Training, and JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association). She holds BS degrees in athletic training and sociology from North Dakota State University and MS degrees in Sports Medicine and Biomechanics from the University of Oregon. She is planning to pursue a PhD in Epidemiology. Kim not only has extensive experience working with athletes, but was a competitive power lifter as well. EDITED AUG 27, 2007 TO REFLECT CHANGES ON WEBSITE THAT REMOVED NAMES OF CHILDREN.

Her detailed biography and unique name led us to find her posting on various forums across the internet, including Low Carb Friends, CincyMoms and Low Carbo Nostra. What’s more, the details regarding publications in various journals hones in on who she is as we find one person with publication in each mentioned above, Kim D. Barber-Foss.

  • JAMA. 1999 Sep 8;282(10):958-63
  • J Athl Train. 1999 Jul;34(3):277-284
  • Am J Sports Med. 2000 May-Jun;28(3):385-91

After reviewing the literature, it appears no other papers include her as an author, so it’s assumed she has not published more in the last seven years.

From her posts on CincyMoms, we learn she and her children moved to Cincinnati, which with her bio including her research at a children’s hospital, confirms our finding that she works at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital as a Research Biomechanist. This was learned on the North Dakota State University site where she is listed on the Board of Visitors, Emeritus Members roster. She is also listed among the Ohio Athletic Trainers’ Association OATA District 4 representatives.

Rumors we’ve received led us to review some of her posts on Low Carb Friends along with her profile. From her profile, we learn she has been active poster on Low Carb Friends, with more than 14,500 posts since June 2002.

A prolific poster on the forum, she complains about her job

“The new business manager they hired a few months ago is a real prick and he’s making it hard to like coming to work.”

She writes often of financial hardships and from the information we received, posters on Low Carb Forums have sent her money and one provided her with a used car. We have been unable to verify that information, so it is nothing more than speculation.

What isn’t speculation is that Kim remains at least overweight if not obese. Yes, the certified trainer giving advice is overweight/obese, hence no photographs of her on any of the sites she posts or Kimkins. She’s even, in the past, posted that she “did send away for Univ of Iowa’s gastric bypass surgery info. But that just seems so extreme.”And earlier this year maintained in her signature that her goals this year included:

Goal #1: 25 pounds lost by 2/15/2007
Goal #2: 50 pounds lost by my birthday 4/29/2007
Goal #3: To try and find “ME” again

With at least 50 pounds to lose, if not more, dedicated to Kimkins for quite some time now, on staff at Kimkins, and a certified athletic trainer, we have to ask “how’s that Kimkins working for ya?”

If you want to ask her yourself, you can email her if you look up her contact information in the above links as her email address is publicly available on multiple sites.

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August 24, 2007 at 12:46 pm

Blossom

She’s posted a lot on LCF about her struggles with weight and always seems to be starting over again and again, so I’m not surprised she’s still overweight. It does lead me to question her role at Kimkins though. It’s one thing to struggle on a forum, have your friends help you out and support you. It’s another to be on staff but unable to lose the weight and keep it off on a site that claims the diet works for everyone. If she’s still fat then she shouldn’t be telling others how to lose weight or exercise, she needs to do it herself and then, when she’s fit and thin, she can tell others what to do. Until then, she’s just another person who talks the talk but doesn’t walk the walk.

August 24, 2007 at 1:02 pm

Jane

Everyone on low carb friends knows Kim is fat. Fact.

August 24, 2007 at 1:04 pm

KimkinsSUCKS

ROFL

Kim is fat, Kimmer is fat, heck even some other staff are fat. And they’re hoping suckers will keep paying them money about how to lose weight?

PT Barnum was right!

August 24, 2007 at 1:07 pm

Joey

“The ugly and the stupid have the best of it in this world. They can sit at their ease and gape at the play. If they know nothing of victory, they are at least spared the knowledge of defeat.”
-Oscar Wilde

August 24, 2007 at 1:17 pm

Lu Lu

Anyone whose been on lwo-carb friends for a while knows Kim is still overweight. She starts the threads to lose five and then starts another one later when it hasn’t happened. If she would take her own advice and just do it, then I’d be impressed. She hasn’t, she can’t, so I haven’t bothered to read much of what she says anymore.

August 24, 2007 at 1:32 pm

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August 24, 2007 at 1:46 pm

Gravely concerned..

Absolutely. Just think if a Weight Watcher leader was still large. Noone would go to the meetings. They are a visual aid to see what people can do on that particular plan.

You need to bow out of giving people advice until you haven taken your own advice.

I also think that Kimmer is overweight. If she wasn’t she would have plastered lots of pictures on her site. Gee..her son teaches photoshop!!

August 24, 2007 at 1:48 pm

Too Funny

Probably why she removed her fantasy signature a couple of months ago

KimATC
Certified Athletic Trainer

I’m living The Secret
1) I am financially secure 2) I am a money magnet. I receive checks from many sources. 3) My kids and I are healthy and happy and living in .4) I am a thin and beautiful woman

ROFLMAO!

August 24, 2007 at 2:22 pm

shelby

She changed her signature because of people being nasty to her. Everyone struggles with their weight. How many of these comments are left by people that are a perfect size 6? This has gone too far, she is free to lend her support as she wishes, we do NOT know that she is profiting from it as KImmer is, and publicly putting her personal info out there, BESIDES ridiculing her efforst to lose weight.

You should be ASHAMED. this has nothing to do with Kimmer. And I am one on lcf that does NOT support Kimmer, do not be mistaken by that.

August 24, 2007 at 2:45 pm

Oh My!

Kimmer has one credentialed person on her staff, and that person can’t follow the diet herself?

That’s rich.

August 24, 2007 at 2:46 pm

Oh My!

“She changed her signature because of people being nasty to her. Everyone struggles with their weight.”

I don’t struggle with mine and didn’t need Kimkins to figure it out. That Kim is out front and center as an expert about fitness and is supposedly doing the diet too, um, don’t you think she should be at least fit and lean (if not thin)?

August 24, 2007 at 2:51 pm

Down with Kimkins!

I’m sorry but if you swim with the sharks, expect to get bitten! I would never go to an obese personal trainer so if she (KimATC) is in fact obese she has some explaining to do.

She claims to have her lawyer working on this. To that I say good luck! She put her self in this position and needs to take responsibility.

And as someone else pointed out, if the Kimkins diet is the “second coming” why doesn’t she apply herself and lose the weight? Oh I know! Because the diet sucks and she probably knows this.

I love eating my “just dessert”. Lowcarb cheesecake is my choice!

August 24, 2007 at 2:52 pm

Joanne

From WordPress TOS: “the Content is not obscene, libelous or defamatory (more info on what that means), hateful or racially or ethnically objectionable, and does not violate the privacy or publicity rights of any third party”

Who’s site will be shut down first Kimmer’s or YOURS???

You should be ashamed, yes, (doubt you are) but you should be a little smarter in your zealous attempts to churn hits to your site. Get a “real” life…
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Everything contained within posts here is publicly available information, thus not in violation of the WordPress TOS.

Secondly, KimATC is a public figure, promoted by the Kimkins site for her credentials and expertise, therefore open to public scrutiny by those seeking the truth about the Kimkins organization and its staff, paid or unpaid

August 24, 2007 at 2:57 pm

Beth

How KimATC didn’t see that Kimmer was using her for only her credentials is beyond me. KimATC should tell Kimmer to go take a leap and take back control of how her name and credentials are being used. KimATC has earned her ATC, she’s earned her degree, she’s published in respected journals. That’s all Kimmer wants…to be able to brag she has KimATC on staff. If I were KimATC, I’d tell Kimmer to shove it.

August 24, 2007 at 3:02 pm

Freedomtochoose

How lovely that “Just Ducky” and all of you are so perfect (if indeed you all are real anyhow-could just be sockpuppets or inventions of Just Ducky for all I know). Whether or not this woman is overweight is none of your business and your complete invasion of her privacy is indicative of the appalling disrepect for human rights that members of this anti-Kimkins “cult” have displayed time and again while hiding behind their own anonymity. If you’re so perfect and have the courage of your convictions, stand up and be counted publicly. No? Oh, well… one can only hope that someday someone will send a lawyer to unmask you.

August 24, 2007 at 3:03 pm

shelby

“”This blog will be an expose of the Kimkins Diet website and its founder, Kimmer.

Because Jimmy Moore recently took appropriate action to disassociate himself from the Kimkins Diet Affiliate Program and promotion of the dangerous diet, he is no longer a target of our exposing the truth about Kimkins.

If you thought we dug deep to provide background on Jimmy Moore, you ain’t seen nothing yet! Come along for the ride with us as we expose the truth behind the Kimkins.com website, the Kimkins Diet and the woman behind it all, Kimmer.””

sorry, i missed the part where we were on a search and destroy mission for everyone associated with kimkins. I thought this was about heidi diaz.
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Those associated with, specifically on staff and promoted as such by the Kimkins organization, are open to public scrutiny if and when they’re are perpetuating the diet or plans. Thank you for your comments.

August 24, 2007 at 3:08 pm

Susie

I wouldn’t want to be Kim right now, but do think that if she’s on staff for Kimmer, she’s fair game and should be held just as accountable as Kimmer. Her weight? Another issue, but still, see the point that someone who is held up as the guru should at least be fit even if they’re not skinny.

August 24, 2007 at 3:12 pm

Laura

Kim would do well to quit Kimkins site and tell Kimmer to remove her from the Meet your Team page immediately. Then maybe Ducky will remove this post if she’s not on staff and no longer a public figure in the company?

August 24, 2007 at 3:18 pm

Kimkins Dangers

When selling a weightloss product or plan, those involved in the selling of said product or plan have to prove that it works.

If you saw a fat person on TV selling an exercise machine, what would you think?

Kimmer IS using KimATC’s credentials to sell Kimkins – promoting the fact that they have an ATC on staff. ON STAFF.

Would you buy a treadmill if the staff person marketing it was overweight?!

I do agree that struggling with a weight issue is not something to make fun of or mock in any way and I am not doing that at all.

However, if Kimkins is THE ANSWER that Kimmer says it is, there is no reason that anyone “on staff” should have a weight problem even after being part of the program for as long as KimATC has been.

That indicates a problem with the program.

August 24, 2007 at 3:32 pm

PosterAnon

KIM…..YOU NEED TO QUIT KIMKINS

KIMMER IS ONLY USING YOU TO MAKE MONEY

WHAT’S IN IT FOR YOU?

NOTHING BUT HEADACHES

QUIT

QUIT

QUIT

YOU HAVE EXCELLENT CREDENTIALS, DO NOT LET KIMMER KEEP USING YOU

YOU DESERVE BETTER THAN THAT

QUIT

QUIT

QUIT

DO IT

JUST DO IT

LEAVE KIMMER AND LET HER FIGURE THIS OUT ON HER OWN

SHE NEEDS YOU MORE THAN YOU NEED HER

August 24, 2007 at 3:33 pm

Rae

You people have serious problems, KimATC is a human being. and no one deserves to be attacked the way she has been in the above comments. You are just hateful and nasty.

August 24, 2007 at 3:35 pm

Maggie

Ducky, if KimATC disassociated with Kimkins and quit her staff position, would you remove this post about her?

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While she remains on staff and promoted as such, she remains part of the Kimkins team, thus this post shall remain. If she leaves Kimkins and is no longer on staff and is removed from the Kimkins team page, and no longer is providing advice within the Kimkins forums, then yes, this post shall be removed since she is no longer associated with Kimkins.

August 24, 2007 at 4:03 pm

Kimkins Dangers

I wanted to clarify my earlier comment – although anyone on staff at Kimkins is in some way responsible for the dangerous promotion of the dangerous diet and KimATC is not immune from that.. publishing her personal information was not a good idea, sorry Ducky.

Her email, and what looks like a work / business email, should not be involved with this debate. Her email at Kimkins would be more appropriate.

As many have said and pointed out elsewhere, KimATC is not known for promoting starvation / laxative abuse and the other dangerous information spewed about the Kimkins website.

She at least seems to have a head about her shoulders!

(But I do wish she’d put herself first and stop letting Heidi take advantage of her!)

August 24, 2007 at 4:39 pm

KimberDonkey

“Ducky” is a >300 pounder from LCF, who has been conspicuously absent from the Fascination thread for some time now. Hello Pot? Kettle calling……Is Ducky someone you want telling you what diet to follow (or not)?

August 24, 2007 at 4:43 pm

Josh

Hey Donkey……who would that be?

Alluding to someone isn’t fair….just say it and be done with it already!

August 24, 2007 at 4:45 pm

MeeMee729

Brilliant sleuthing! I had posted some questions re KimATC over at LCF, as I’d just realized she is not only a member there but an active (putting it mildly) poster. I just wanted to know if she was a real person (as opposed to one of Heidi’s a.k.a.’s and sockpuppets), and if so, I’d like very much to ask her what is her opinion of the whole controversy, what is her opinion of anorexia, the allegations of stealth marketing, etc.

But the “Admin” immediately deleted my post (as he’s done with nearly all my other posts in the fascination thread) and sent me yet another of his unbelievably rude PMs, this one accusing me of “attacking” KimATC.

So I’m glad to read your blog entry with all known info re this aspect of the controversy gathered into a single page. Fascinating stuff. I absolutely had no idea KimATC ever had a weight problem, let alone that she continues to struggle with it while dispensing fitness wisdom to one and all both at LCF and on-staff at the Kimdom.

August 24, 2007 at 4:45 pm

Kimkins Dangers

Ducky isn’t telling us what diet to follow or not. He is simply illuminating the dangers inherent in the Kimkins plan.

If you think it’s so great and healthy, why not post some *factual* information that supports that – such as peer reviewed medical studies showing how great and healthy a VLCD with laxative abuse is?

August 24, 2007 at 4:45 pm

Jane

Oh dear gosh….as if those from LCF don’t see the “Kimber” part of the Donkey name and are supposed to think it’s Kimber.

Give it a rest whoever you are, cause you’re not Kimber.

And no matter how fat or thin Ducky is, Ducky isn’t selling anyone a diet or taking your money. Kimmer is and she’s made millions off the suckers led to believe starving is the way to go.

August 24, 2007 at 5:19 pm

LadyRed

Kim is simply a prop for Kimmer, a prop to help lend credibility to her insane plans. Kim would do well to quit being used by Kimmer and publicly denounce the plan as unhealthy.

She reads and posts at LCF and saw everything about that child that you posted about here and DID NOTHING to help that child. She’s on staff and DID NOTHING when Deni was cheering her on, DID NOTHING when others were cheering her on, and DID NOTHING when Kimmer implied that what she was eating was fine because she has stored body fat, even if that’s just 500-cals a day!

Kim ATC should be held accountable like every other peon staff member over there who sits idly by while Kimmer continues on and makes millions at the health expense of others.

August 24, 2007 at 6:00 pm

Marissa

I think everyone here that’s said Kimmer is using KimATC only for her credentials is right. Kimmer is using Kim to make more money and from what I’ve hear Kim isn’t even being compensated.

August 24, 2007 at 6:16 pm

Crown of Snarls

Ducky, you are now considered a “shock bloqqer”

ROTFLMAO

Shock bloq Ducky

Too freaking funny!

The truth makes a lot of people angry, keep up the good work.

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QUACK!

August 24, 2007 at 6:17 pm

Janice

I feel bad for Kim. Not for the fact you easily found all the information you did and included it here, but because it’s obvious she’s just a puppet to Kimmer.

Kimmer is definitely promoting Kim as a reason to join and do exercise (that she herself says you don’t have to do, which is why she needs Kim, otherwise she’d be a hypocrite saying it now after years of saying you don’t need to exercise).

I too hope Kim quits and tells Kimmer to close up shop for her dangerous diet.

August 24, 2007 at 6:20 pm

Too Damn Funny

Hey Ducky!

Did you see what the LCF Admins said about you?

Since certain shock bloggers are going far beyond respectable reporting with vicious attacks on the weight of individuals and photoshopped faces placed on obese bodies – among other sleazy tactics – we are no longer permitting links and discussions of certain blog entries here. Please visit those blogs directly if interested in reading them. Thank you.

That was, of course, after the requisite housecleaning to remove all the links from this morning to here!

I BOOKMARKED YOU…..I’ll be back!

August 24, 2007 at 6:25 pm

Crown of Snarls

LadyRed

Excellent post!

Why oh why is KimATC being given a pass on HER responsibilities to that child?

Oh wait: could it be because people on LCF like her?
So she stood by silently while a child starved, but we like her, she’s a nice person.

This is sickning to even try to defend her.

August 24, 2007 at 6:34 pm

Wowser

Looks like Jimmy Moore was right about one thing, LCF is a bunch of Nazi’s!

August 24, 2007 at 6:37 pm

LCF SUCKS

Said it many posts ago, will say it again

LCF SUCKS!

August 24, 2007 at 6:37 pm

medusa

Sweeping thread-sanitation has taken place on Low Carb Friends in the “Why the Fascination with Kimmer Thread. ” All posts made today referring to not only this blog but others have been removed, and this warning added by LCF Administration:

“Since certain shock bloggers are going far beyond respectable reporting with vicious attacks on the weight of individuals and photoshopped faces placed on obese bodies – among other sleazy tactics – we are no longer permitting links and discussions of certain blog entries here. Please visit those blogs directly if interested in reading them. Thank you.”

Ducky, keep up the good, investigative work. We will never get to the bottom of this Kimkins/Kimmer fiasco without your digging. And with the thread sanitation, post removal, account suspensions, warnings, etc. happening at LCF, it appears, unfortunately, that the LCF administration has become as paranoid as Kimmer.

August 24, 2007 at 7:10 pm

Josh

KimATC is allowed to post about it on the lose 5 pounds thread though.

I agree that KimATC should quit Kimkins, it’s making her look sleazy!

August 24, 2007 at 7:14 pm

Molly

Ducky, watch out KimATC has her divorce attorney on this!

KimATC
“They crossed the line talking about my kids and my job. I will take legal action and have already spoken to the attorney that did my divorce.”

Somehow she hasn’t connected the above quote that names her kids is FROM THE KIMKINS site and in public view there! She’s blaming you! She needs to blame Kimmer for exposing her kids!

And her job, well again, her bio says where she’s published, you connected the dots with those journals. Oh, and SHE SAID HER NAME HERSELF on LCF at least twice as “Kim Foss” when she was patting herself on the back about her boss saying something nice for a change!

August 24, 2007 at 7:23 pm

flowerpower

I hope to God people don’t go after Kim at work or her family in any way. I am disappointed to see some of this stuff posted.

As some of us have known KimATC since early 2000 and cared a lot for her, we’ve been advising KimATC to quit her job with Kimmer since the whole red dress controversy began.

Kim used to adamently support Kimmer on LCF constantly, and would complain when anything negative was brought up. At that time, KimATC said she knew the red dress photo was the current Kimmer. When questioned further, she admitted to never meeting Kimmer, just through the internet and possibly telephone.

KimATC refused to ever acknowledge being paid to work for Kimmer, although she did announce on LCF that she had a 4th job – working for Kimkins. I’m assuming she referred to the fact that Kimmer was paying her.

I’m also assuming Kimmer told her to quit posting on the Kimkins controversial stuff on LCF, as KimATC had the admins remove all her posts, and she wasn’t heard from again until today.

KimATC – since you are reading this – DO THE RIGHT THING! Quit letting Kimmer take advantage of you! Is the money she’s paying you really worth this?

It’s too bad it came to this Kim, I wish you would have listened to ‘your lcf friends’ many weeks ago.

August 24, 2007 at 7:25 pm

Stop the Insanity!

Kim is a published author in scientific journals and allowed that to be in her bio. It’s a no-brainer someone can look up who she is in pubmed with very simple keywords and name comparisons.

Besides that, she’s said who she is in her posts on LCF, so her name is out there already by her own words. So are her kids names. Big deal, who is going to do anything to her kids? She’s used them as her avatar on LCF for a while now and never thought it was a problem until today?

And what exactly is her divorce attorney going to tell her? Sorry Kim, your information is public? It says right in her bio she works at a children’s hospital. She’s on the lists linked to with her work information (she should be thankful she didn’t use her home address for those!)

She is staff for Kimkins and until she disassociates, I think she’s as culpable as everyone else on staff for the dangerous information.

You play in the dirt, you get dirty.

Quit Kimkins KimATC!

August 24, 2007 at 7:46 pm

Toni

Lots of good comments here. Kim ATC should realize that her association with Kimmer and Kimkins affects her credibility and that disassociating now is a good option to consider. There is too much bad stuff happening at Kimkins and Kim doesn’t need this all. I think she should quit. Forget the lawyer-upping crap, just get out of Kimkins and be done with it.

August 24, 2007 at 7:52 pm

Fluffer Nutter

Kim all I can say is you lay with dogs you get up wtih fleas.

August 24, 2007 at 10:12 pm

medusa

The most annoying/frustrating part of this whole fiasco today on LCF is that Kimmer et al are probably out celebrating tonight. A great fount of information has been silenced.

August 24, 2007 at 11:11 pm

flowerpower

medusa – that may be true, but KimATC has on her own chosen Kimmer over LCF. Who knows if Kimmer told her to make a choice or not??? It wouldn’t surprise me.

I just can’t believe she chose the faudulent Kimmer??? There is just too much information here for anyone to follow Kimmer. Those that continue to support Kimmer and her fraud must have their heads in the sand at this point.

August 24, 2007 at 11:13 pm

Fluffer Nutter

Now I’m thinking Kimmer is paying her….LCF hobby and no income, easier to leave than a paycheck!

Ducky said above that if she quit Kimkins, he’d remove the post here…she just left LFC, that’s saying something without saying a word!

August 24, 2007 at 11:17 pm

flowerpower

If KimATC is being paid, she should probably talk to that attorney about what will happen to her if there are any lawsuits filed against Kimkins.

August 24, 2007 at 11:26 pm

Medusa

flowerpower, I wasn’t clear in my post.

The “great fount of information” I was referring to was the “Why the fascination with Kimmer?” thread on LCF, not KimATC.

The recent posts on that thread were thought-provoking, thoughtful, concerned and relevant re the dangers of Kimkins. Now the silence on that thread is deafening.

August 25, 2007 at 12:13 am

MeeMee729

Part of the silence on the fascination thread is because so many of our posts were (and are continuing to be) deleted as soon as almost as soon as they’re posted — and then we were/are treated to rude/hostile PMs from “Admin”.

The last one I received was — and I am not kidding — a warning that I am AGAIN in violation of the LCF TOS because of the “extensive use of font and color” in my posts.

August 25, 2007 at 1:25 am

Medusa

MeeMee729, you’re not alone. I can’t believe they censured you for so-called “extensive use of font and color” in your posts. That is utterly ridiculous.

I also received a “warning” from the LCF Admins this morning after I made a post that included a quote from another forum member. Mine was an innocuous post and was not rude or off-topic in any way. This was the message I received from the LCF Admin’s:

“Please do not just post to quote other posts. This adds to the length of the thread unnecessarily.”

I found it rather odd because posters before me had included many quotes in their posts. This happened shortly before the thread was sanitized. After receiving the “warning,” I discovered that my account had been suspended.

The thread tonight continues to remain relatively silent, with only a few senior members’ posts having passed muster with the Admins.

August 25, 2007 at 1:41 am

Janey

Wow.

August 25, 2007 at 1:42 am

LCF admin nazis

Yep, LCF are definately as paranoid as Kimkins with there cleaning up of the thread.

I really dont’ understand them. Isn’t it to their benefit that people are having discussions on there saying how kimkins (technically their COMPETITION) is bad?

LCF admins seriously need to lighten up. I too am getting sick of the contstant infractions for pathetic reasons. Too much font and colour in your post? good grief give me a break. I dont’ know if it’s one admin in particular or all 3 of them that are freaks.

What’s the name of another good low carb discussion board? I’m done with LCF.

August 25, 2007 at 1:57 am

flowerpower

Sorry about that confusion medusa – I have not been following the thread on LCF the past few weeks. Today was the first time I looked at it in quite some time. It’s too bad so many posts on that thread were deleted today. So many of them supported KimATC as a helpful lowcarb friend.

I know there has been lots of information about anorexia and eating disorders, but I have not spent time reading that stuff, as it does not apply to my life at this time. I did learn enough from the early on posts to watch the behavior of my own children, though.

KimATC has helped many people at LCF. She has been relentless with her support of anyone with injuries, me included. Her presence will be missed. Her support of Kimmer will certainly not be missed by many.

Kim now realizes, I’m sure – that she has put way too much of her personal information out there, considering she continues her support of the fraudulent Kimmer. When she signed on to become a staff member at Kimkins, she probably should have watched her back more closely. She knew from years ago that many people did not agree with Kimmer’s theories.

But, she made the choice to leave LCF – maybe her employer forced it, but it was still Kim’s choice.

August 25, 2007 at 3:36 am

Kan

Is that why the fascination thread is so quiet??? I knew I was missing something today! What in the WORLD are they so afraid of????

Meemee, I remember your post regarding KimATC. There was NOTHING wrong with it. Those administrators are such losers.

August 25, 2007 at 4:42 am

lalah

Since its obvious that people can pretend to be whomever and whatever they choose online – how do we know for certain that this KimATC person is the same as the published, highly accomplished, physical trainer Kim? Perhaps that name was chosen because there’s a verifiable identity trail behind it. I mean, I’ve never heard of a 300 pound personal trainer educated in sports medicine and working as a – what? – biomedical whatever, but broke and needing donations???? Very strange to me, just doesn’t add up. Of course, anybody can get into money trouble, but with all of those credentials it just seems like that person would be sitting pretty or at least have plenty of resources.

Just my opinion, but the whole KimATC person sounds about as legit as Kimmer, who’s also trying to convince people that she’s a freelance writer.

Seems also that someone with that much going for them wouldn’t have time to make 50,000 message board posts – but whatever!

August 25, 2007 at 5:10 am

disappointed

I’m not sure where the line of decency is regarding KimATC’s personal information… but nonetheless, I’m very disappointed by LCF lately.

Shame on LCF…
* for NOT allowing discussion and dissenting viewpoints (as allowed for other controversial diet threads) on Kimkins support threads where they could actually *MAKE A DIFFERENCE*.

* for using google ads to draw more and more people to the Kimkins starvation WOE with ads for “free Kimkins forums”.

* for increasing the importance and seeming legitimacy of the Kimkin woe by (at the very LEAST) not grouping it in “Other Plans”.

Many diet message boards DO care about ensuring that the diets their sites discuss are healthful, and immediately close threads that promote kimkins, VLCD, long-term fasting, etc. Not only are Kimkins support threads allowed, but now concerned “friends” aren’t allowed to post a gentle “hey, isn’t 500 calories too low?” Isn’t anyone concerned that LCF probably has many more 14 year olds viewing its site (and possibly even being cheered on, unwittingly) than the infamous paid diet site?

Meemee: the excessive font and color violation is pretty unbelieveable. Wow… many people use customized font/colors for their posts!

August 25, 2007 at 1:54 pm

Kimkins Staff Fitness Guru is Overweight » Kimkins Controversy

[…] Kimkins Exposed has written a lengthy and controversial post about KimATC, the Kimkins staff diet guru: With at least 50 pounds to lose, if not more, dedicated to Kimkins for quite some time now, on staff at Kimkins, and a certified athletic trainer, we have to ask “how’s that Kimkins working for ya?” […]

August 25, 2007 at 3:47 pm

lovinlowcarb

“The thread tonight continues to remain relatively silent, with only a few senior members’ posts having passed muster with the Admins.”

Check again…even one of those went “poof” and another was edited.

*sigh*

For those you asking about another lowcarb support site–I think Active Low Carbers is pretty cool–and they have an active Anti-K blogs thread that allows people to actually discuss what’s going on in the Kimmer controversy. Can’t talk about LCF much on it, which is ok by me…but plenty of freedom to talk about Kimmer and these blogs.

August 25, 2007 at 3:54 pm

MeeMee729

Hi Medusa. So sorry this has happened to you too. As far as your account being suspended, I think we can assume the Admin is reading this and the other anti-K blogs, and suspending your account is his way of punishing you. Poor little dictatortot.

August 25, 2007 at 4:00 pm

MeeMee729

I for one am boycotting Netrition. As most of you probably already know, Netrition = Forum Friends LLC = lowcarbfriends.com

They are or appear to be the same company and share the same geographic/physical mailing address and telephone number:

20 Petra Lane, Suite 6
Albany NY 12205-4977
518-464-0765

Now, as far as this particular Admin is concerned — is he the sole authority? What do the other admins (the list I have is comprised of Cheri, Dottie, etoi, and Jim) think about the whole Kimmer/Kimkins mess, and what do they think the control freak tendencies of He Who Shall Remain Nameless? Are any of the other admins willing to intervene in this reign of error?

August 25, 2007 at 4:10 pm

MeeMee729

Thank you Kan! I’ve been having a little pity party all week, LOL Sorry to everyone who had to listen, and I appreciate the opportunity to vent.

The PM re “extensive use of fonts and colors” was as I said the last straw for me. For one thing, absolutely nothing in the TOS says anything about the use of fonts and colors. I only ever used one color in any of my posts — blue, because it’s easy to read and I happen to like that color for typing, so sue me — and I only ever use one font in any of my posts, too — Comic Sans MS — ’cause it’s cute 🙂

Here’s the relevant section of the PM…
Reason:
——-
Excessive use of fonts and color
Please post in the default font and color that everyone else uses. It is not appropriate to make your posts stand out compared to others. Thank you.
——-

Not appropriate to make my posts stand out compared to others? What about so many members who use colorful Signatures in every single one of their posts? Colorful signatures spread over several lines and using fonts, smileys, etc. They don’t “stand out” ?

Isn’t that the whole purpose for having those features on the board? So that people can use them, to express their individuality?

Oh wait, individuality is bad and must be stopped. D’oh!

August 25, 2007 at 6:08 pm

MeeMee729

Correction: It’s Friends Forums LLC, not Forum Friends. Sorry about the goof.

August 25, 2007 at 7:00 pm

Medusa

LCF Admins Hypocritical??

I found it rather odd when I checked out the LCF “Fascination” thread this afternoon that post #7998 posted on 08-25-2007 at 02:23 p.m. had been allowed/approved by LCF Admins, especially in light of their warning yesterday where they stated that…

“Since certain shock bloggers are going far beyond respectable reporting with vicious attacks on the weight of individuals and photoshopped faces placed on obese bodies – among other sleazy tactics – we are no longer permitting links and discussions of certain blog entries here. Please visit those blogs directly if interested in reading them. Thank you.””

I think the inclusion of the before and after pictures in post #7998 is insensitive and in extremely bad taste, especially the “before” picture. I may be way off base here, so I’d be interested in finding out if it strikes anyone else the same way. To my mind, LCF Admins are patently hypocritical.

Here is the post by kingstu:

“Kimmer has done a fantastic job of taking pieces from Atkins, Stillman, and South Beach, combining them into one very low calorie diet and dispensing nutritional advice with no credentials whatsoever. She has created a “cult of personality” which is evident by the number of her defenders on the Interweb.

What boggles my mind is how can even one person defend her when she refuses to post a photograph or even give an in person interview? Has anyone seen Jimmy Moore’s blog. You can’t stop the guy from posting photos, youtube videos, doing interviews with anyone who will listen. What kind of weight loss “expert” doesn’t post her own photo and instead posts so many different photos of different people claiming to be herself that it’s almost laughable.

What kind of person makes up success stories and posts photos of professional models as after photos?

I’m going to start the Stukins Weight Loss program.

Before:

(picture)

After:

(picture)

You too can experience the incredible transformation on the Stukins weight loss plan. It will make you thinner, change your race and even make you a fabulously wealthy musical genius.”

Should the LCF Admins delete the post and pictures, I have saved them and would be glad to send them on to you.

August 25, 2007 at 7:51 pm

cleochatra

lowcarblounge.com No pro-kimmer discussions, no font and color violations, no bad aftertaste. From people who acted as administrators and moderators at ADBB and LCBB. Come on over.

August 25, 2007 at 9:08 pm

Robin Bayne

MeeMee and Medusa, I have been “warned” about things on LCF also, which is why I rarely post there anymore.

It is very strange that everyone on LCF talks about how Kimmer deletes posts and reads PMs, when that very thing is why Kimmer and many others originally left LCF to start a new site.

August 26, 2007 at 2:14 am

Medusa

Because my previous post is a just a tad confusing (actually, it’s very confusing), I just wanted to summarize what I was trying to get across:

I’m surprised that the LCF Admins allowed the posting of a picture of an anonymous obese man in a parody ,especially in light of the fact that they became so incensed over the “vicious attacks on the weight of individuals and photoshopped faces placed on obese bodies.” I don’t know who “obesemanpa4″ is but I’m sure he’d be mortified if he saw that he was not only a “before” picture in a thread in a diet forum but had also morphed into old Snoop Dog.

I saved the photos in case the Admins suddenly decided that maybe it wasn’t such a great idea to have the pictures posted in the Fascination thread, or maybe thought they might be opening themselves up to some legal action by obesemanpa4. I just wanted them saved for posterity…or some such thing.

I’m afraid my sense of humour has become tainted because of this whole LCF fiasco. I am furious that they deleted my innocuous posts, sent me ridiculous e-mails as to why those posts were deleted, and then capped it off with suspending my account.

I’m blaming the LCF Admins for my inability to keep a train of thought together long enough to make an intelligent post, which doesn’t beg questions or become lost in translation. :^)

August 26, 2007 at 5:22 am

MeeMee729

One final note and then I’ll shut up. Re my comment about boycotting Netrition. I want Netrition/Friends Forums LLC to appoint/hire new LCF admins who are fair, impartial, and polite. But as a friend who has a kind heart pointed out, a boycott would hurt the board members themselves. So I’m feeling rather guilty for even bringing it up.

August 26, 2007 at 5:54 am

Kan

Umm I’m sorry but I don’t give a crap how nice and supportive
KimATC was on LCF. She should be ashamed of herself for prostituting her credentials to Kimmer for a quick buck. I don’t care how hard up you are for money, this is totally unethical.
Was she active at all on Kimmers board? Was there an “Ask the trainer” thread or anything? If she was pretty much seen (on the team page) but not heard, than that is exactly what she was doing….selling herself.

August 27, 2007 at 6:52 pm

Interesting

I was curious about another Kimkins staffer, Ailsa, so I googled “Ailsa Lincolnshire”. The first site is an amateur busty BBW escort by the name of Ailsa who escorts in Lincolnshire and London. Quite a strange coincidence!

August 27, 2007 at 9:43 pm

LindaJ

I’m so sorry my friend KimATC got involved with the Kimkins site and that it has led to all this. Yes, she’s real, a very knowledgable athletic trainer, former high school athletic trainer (job she loved but which didn’t pay well), a former power-lifter, a great mom, a super-sweet person. She answered tons of people’s questions about various aches and pains on the LCF boards.

The car story is true! I’m so glad she took that beast off my hands! … and still got some use out of it. We turned the handover into a fun, fun “girls weekend”.

September 10, 2007 at 1:34 pm

Bye-Bye KimATC « Kimkins Exposed

[…] ATC, nutrition advice, Heidi Diaz, Kimmer, medical advice, Kimkins, Weight Loss After we provided some background details on one Kimkins staffer, KimATC, she quickly fled into the confines of the Kimkins website, leaving her friends at Low Carb […]

September 10, 2007 at 5:07 pm

CMe

Kim may be overweight, but did you know that fat people can be fit, too? **gasp** It’s true! I’ve seen it.

*This poster has no affiliation with either Kimmer/Heidi, KimATC, and is not a KimBot.* I just think KATC should not be dissected, but do what you think is right. However, if she knew what was going on and was in on it, then all’s fair!

September 11, 2007 at 3:25 am

Watcher

If KimATC is truly gone from the Kimtanic, why does this thread even exist?

October 3, 2007 at 3:39 pm

karen

Please direct everyone to ktla.com..a major news channel in California. They’ve exposed Kimmer/Heidi on National News and have her on video surveillance. They try to talk to her but she jumps in her car!!!

One news channel down…we won’t stop until she’s on Dateline with Stone Phillips. She can be qualified as a predator too!!!





Kimmer Encourages Child to Continue On!

23 08 2007

A commenter noted that Kimmer replied to the teen asking for help. We’ve verified that Kimmer did reply and this is what she responded with:

Kimmer (Admin)

Re:I need more calories

I agree with all the replies above, except about needing more calories simply because of your age. A calorie is a unit of energy, that’s all. If we eat too much energy, it’s stored as fat — whether you’re 14 or 84. If you have excess body fat, you have CALORIES hanging there, again whether you’re 14 or 84.

However, if you want to up your calories, simply add more food. You’re a teenager, so a couple servings of dairy are important (or use supplements with your doctor’s advice). String cheese, Dannon low carb yogurt, broccoli, kale, cottage cheese are good sources of calcium and will give you extra calories.

If your goal is to only add more calories, drink 1-2 meal replacement shakes in addition to your food choices. It’s easy to add calories if that’s your goal.

I disagree about adding fruit until you’re at maintenance. There’s little there nutritionally compared to the high carbs. Nothing that can’t wait a bit until you hit goal. You’re much better off with a 1/2 cup of sweet potato than an apple, as an example. More fiber, more antioxidants. And …

But if you’re listening to “other sources”, think logically and think about hidden agendas.

Notice Kimmer did not, as she clearly stated she did in her podcast with Jimmy Moore, turn this young girl away. She did not tell her that such an extreme low calorie level at her age and her current weight is dangerous. She did not implore her to go to her mother (or father) and ask for help from her parent(s). She did not suggest such dieting at her age should be under a doctor’s care and supervision. And she did not say emphatically that 500 calories a day is too few for a young girl.

No, Kimmer actually told this child that too many calories make you fat. The implication clearly that 500 calories is more than enough if this girl still has fat to lose.

And people wonder why sites such as this exist?

Now the world can see that Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) is allowing teens on her site, is recommending very low calorie intakes and is suggesting to a child to ignore those with concerns!





Kimkins Supporter is Truth Challenged

23 08 2007

An interesting site appeared recently that we were alerted about, The Weightless Answer.

The first post was made on August 13, 2007 and is quite an intriguing read. The blog owner obviously has a beef with many of the sites now exposing the problems surrounding the Kimkins diet and the diet founder, Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) but wrote in such haste that they simply couldn’t keep facts straight which leaves much of the content suspect throughout.

For example, the site owner, who goes by Weightless, shared with readers they started the diet in the middle of June. In comments on another blog, this same blogger stated they joined Kimkins on June 24, 2007, not exactly the middle of June, but really more the end of June.

That was problem one.

Problem two is the claim that in making a decision about paying to join the site, they read all the negative information, “So then I read the negatives… there were the “kimkins-haters” who made annonymous claims over the net that kimkins was based on an overweight woman making false claims taking money to teach the members unhealthy habits which would lead to poor health. They spouted the word: kimknsrexia and balked that “something must be done to shut’er down!”

The problem with this statement is that this is impossible given the date they joined Kimkins was June 24th and the start of the Fascination with Kimmer thread at Low Carb Friends was June 27th.

In comments on Jimmy Moore’s blog, the username Kimmerexia didn’t appear until July 2007, the first Slamboard article didn’t appear until June 30th, and the first criticism of Kimkins as a diet or of the creator, Kimmer, didn’t heat up on Active Low Carber Forums until early July. In June, when Jimmy Moore claimed to be starting Kimkins a thread was started and the discussion revolved around him and whether he was actually doing Kimkins.

So here we find the owner of this site is making up things. If the diet and site were not at the time under fire as this person suggests, how much did she really investigate before joining? This is one more blog set up to portray Kimkins in a positive light, except like others out there, this one too suffers problems of integrity and, to use a Colbertism, truthiness.

Of course our question is who is this anonymous blogger promoting Kimkins with no affiliate ID? Is it Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) with one more alias? Is this new blog the reason Kimmer hasn’t been posting to answer questions asked of her in her forum that claims members have direct access to her?

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August 23, 2007 at 4:22 pm

Karen

And interestingly, the first 2 people to comment on this blog were Deni and Christin, both of whom have a vested interest in Kimkins.com. I think that the person who is writing this blog is either Kimmer herself or was hired by Kimmer. And then Kimmer asked Deni and Christin to comment positively.
Also, the doctor’s comments? Those comments have nothing to do with the Kimkins diets, but the author of the blog would lead you to believe that they do.

August 23, 2007 at 4:23 pm

Maggie

Truth challenged is very accurate for your title!

August 23, 2007 at 4:52 pm

Kimkins Dangers

This “weightless” person continually leaves odd comments on my blog full of circular logic and rationalizations that honestly don’t make any sense. Whoever she is, she seems to be another of the Kimmer Lap Dogs Club and simply goes around spouting untruthful information in an attempt to shift the focus away from Kimmer’s lies and the dangers of Kimkins and onto the “evil bloggers”. She does not however, seem to be able to counter the factual information presented in the anti-kimkins blogs, odd, huh? 🙂

August 23, 2007 at 8:46 pm

Kimmerexia

Ducky sez: “In comments on Jimmy Moore’s blog, the username Kimmerexia didn’t appear until July 2007″.

July 16, to be exact. 🙂

August 23, 2007 at 10:28 pm

Gravely concerned..

This sounds like Kimmer’s style of writing..Another sock puppet maybe?

August 24, 2007 at 5:35 am

weightless

well lets see…
I seem to recall stating that most of the kimkins haters are very good at pointing to “half truths” instead of whole truths…
I actually wrote on my blog that I decided to write my blog based on a subject I had been working feverishly with over the past two months.
Yes I started Kimkins June 24th to be exact, maybe it would have been better if I gave you the time including minute and hour so you could investigate it further. You are saying I am lying based on saying I started in the middle of June, wow what a difference a week makes ladies, call me out on that one. Can we grasp at a few more straws? As far as the remarks about my research… My research involved something alot more costly than the $60 spent to pay for joining kimkins or the comments made by the kimkins haters. I reflect on my blog about the kimkins haters to give the reader a chance to read both positive and negative so that they can make a determination of what is right for them. You may also recall, I noted I read the article in Woman’s World, and that I visited with my doctors and showed them the article, (or didn’t you read that part?) Not just one doctor said they felt safe with me giving it a go. Mostly because I am a 10 yr recovered cancer patient, so I see a host of different doctors regularly. The research involved my being tested for full blood workups and putting the basic kimkins plan in the hands of my doctors to determine if my chemistry could handle it… I don’t feel it is necessary to quote my doctors one by one… they aren’t being paid by Kimkins to recommend it and if they choose to later write any mdeical brief based on my trial of this program that is their business.
Gee, and what a surprise that two kimkins admin would simply notice my blog after I supported them on one of your witchhunt remarks about them.
That is a hard one to figure out., huh?
For the record I am not even an affiliate of the kimkins website… I started to add myself to the ranks, but of course if I did, it would be misconstrued by each of you reading that I was a paid ‘lap dog’. But oh– once again you have each made that “assumption” regardless of there not being any basis for it.
Nothing so glamourous ladies, just a very content person with more than 35 lbs in weightloss who works 40hrs a week out of the home instead of in front of a computer making up drama.
So attack as you will… Neener- neener guess what?
I’m 35 lbs leaner!!





14 Year Old Begs Kimmer for Help

22 08 2007

Our teen being cheered in the Kimkins forums for starving herself has reached out to Kimmer in the Ask Kimmer thread in Kimkins Cafe.

Kimmer do you have a fitday. I want to see what you eat daily.
I have only been eating about 500 cals a day… I need 800-1000…
Any tips for me? sample menues… soemthing?

We’re watching and waiting to see what Kimmer (heidi Diaz) replies with, especially considering she claimed in the podcast with Jimmy Moore that she turns teens away from her site.

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August 23, 2007 at 10:14 am

Teen on Kimkins Starvation Diet? » Kimkins Controversy





Teen Spamming for Kimmer

22 08 2007

While the teen cheered on by those inside the Kimkins forums may have turned off access to her Fitday, she’s been busy online trying to drum up business for her heroine, Kimmer!

1200+exercise – the magic formula. Beware of eating too FEW calories.

…Shattered Memory…

http://www.ashley.movexalong.com/blogold.html

Maybe she’ll remove these too? She is, afterall, only 14 years old! It’s unbelievable that she’s cheered in the Kimkins forums for eating at starvation levels. It’s downright unconscionable that she’s allowed to promote through spamming!

We really hope her parents intervene here!

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August 23, 2007 at 8:52 pm

sam

I dont think you should be broadcasting this poor sirls life.
Really. If shes overweight… it’s her right to do something about it.
If she decides she wants to promote a diet that clearly helped her… then why are you accusing her of having an eating disorder?

Do you think you are doing any good by bashing kimkins?
Do you think you are makign the world a better place by bringing this 14 year old girl down?