In Her Own Words: Christin

26 09 2007

Yesterday the the heavily marketed covergirl of Kimkins, Christin, who is no longer affiliated with the company, but nonetheless still used to promote the website, experienced a terrifying medical emergency with chest pains and severe stomach pains. Her husband rushed her to the ER where she was admitted, observed, tested and monitored for hours before release, with a referral to a cardiologist in hand.

This morning, she visited the cardiologist and contacted friends to communicate she was going to be okay and would make a statement on her blog later in the day.

Remember, we now know that Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) did not lose weight with the diet plan(s) she sells unsuspecting visitors to her website. All you need to do is look at the pictures to see this woman hasn’t dieted for years!

Christin however did follow the plan, as written, all the while believing she was doing exactly what Kimmer did to lose weight.

In fact, Christin may well be the first public face of someone who really did follow a Kimkins very low calorie diet plan, as written.

She is now experiencing the health effects of the malnutrition caused by the diet.

Unfortunately the reality is that she unwittingly was experimenting with twisted dieting ideas propogated by Heidi Diaz, and really just a virtual guinea pig in the virtual diet lab of Kimmer. Christin now has to face the potential consequences to her long-term health for dieting the way Kimmer advised online.

Christin has created a video blog about what has happened to her. Please go take a listen.

We here at Kimkins Exposed continue to keep Christin and her family in our thoughts and prayers.

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Kimkins Dangers Reachs Out…

17 09 2007

On Saturday, Kimkins Dangers reached out in a post to current staff, admins and members. It is an open letter worth repeating!

Dear Kimkins Staff, Forum Admins, Affiliates and Members,

Much has happened to Kimkins over the course of the last month, none of it good. Many loved and well respected members have fled the scene, Becky, Christin and Deni among them. All of them had their reasons and many of their reasons were the same. Please click on each name to read their own accounts of their time at Kimkins. Really. Read them. These are the stories of three women who had cheered for Kimmer and Kimkins for a long time. They had promoted the diet to their friends and others. They worked very closely with Kimmer to forge the foundations of the plan that you are now following and promoting to others. You need to understand why they left. They are not “haters”. They are not “jealous”. They are not Kimmer’s ex-business partner (and neither are we, fyi.). They truly believed in Kimkins and in Kimmer and you owe it to yourself to find out why they changed their minds.

In case you haven’t noticed, there has been a mass exodus of Kimkins members recently. Some of them voluntary, but many were banned for airing their opinions or asking questions that were uncomfortable for Kimmer. They are also not haters, nor are they jealous. They were paid, lifetime members that had concerns that Kimmer would not answer. They wanted to know, from Kimmer’s own words, if the bloggers and forum posts about Kimkins were true. They wanted to know if those pictures posted on slamboard really are of Kimmer now. They just wanted to know. Instead of answers, they were banned from accessing the site that they paid for. Why is that?

One of the new admins is now posting stories that this entire mess was begun by Catherine, Kimmer’s ex-business partner. We assure you that is not the case. We do not know Catherine, have never exchanged a single email with her or have had any contact with her at all. We know of her story, but that is it. We here at Kimkins Dangers are not jealous and we are not haters.

We are very worried about everyone that is on the Kimkins diet plans. We are worried about your health first and foremost, for even though you may not believe that the diet can be dangerous, there is ample information that says otherwise. Information that comes not from personal experience, though that is also available, but from medical studies, peer reviewed case histories and the like. Real, factual, honest evidence, not supposition and opinion.

We are also concerned for those Kimkins members, staff, admins and affiliates for the possible legal liability that they may soon face. The lawyer that is spearheading the class action lawsuit has now confirmed his involvement and has been sent reams of information and evidence pertaining to the Kimkins website, it’s owner and it’s staff.

We know that the California Office of the Foster Care Ombudsman is actively investigating the situation, specifically as it pertains to Heidi’s claims of foster children in her care and the subsequent fundraiser that ensued. The same member that began that fundraiser is now asking other members to partake in yet another fundraiser, though this time for diabetes, allegedly.

Other agencies, local, state and federal are likely to become involved in the near future. This again is not simply opinion, we state this as fact. We will not say anything more on this at this particular time to protect the parties involved and the work that is being done. But be assured, the work IS being done.

If you have been contemplating leaving the sinking ship that is Kimkins, now would be the time. We have read all of the excuses, the ones that say that it does not matter if Kimmer weighs 300 pounds or more, the ones that say it doesn’t matter if she’s lied about this, that or any other thing, the ones that insist the diet is safe and healthy, even the ones that say they aren’t doing the diet, but want to remain for the friendship and camaraderie of the forums. Whatever the reason, understand that the window of opportunity is closing and the time to leave is now.

It matters greatly that Kimmer weighs 300 pounds or more. She sold her plan based on her own claims of having lost 198 pounds in 11 months. This was not true. False claims have crippled companies much larger than Kimkins and they will bring Kimkins to it’s knees as well.

It matters greatly that Kimmer has lied about this, that and the other thing. The list of her lies is very long and growing every day. Integrity is something you should place a very high value on, not eschew in favor of a “quick fix” to your weight issue.

For those who are simply staying for the friendship and the forums, there are many other places you can go where you will be welcomed and supported, yes, even LCF. Active-LowCarber forums, Jimmy Moore’s forums, Amy/Curlygirl’s website, etc., etc. Please consider joining one of these communities as you will find many other ex-kimkins members there as well.

When Kimmer states that there is nothing more dangerous than being overweight, understand that this is not true. Read the stories of those who have suffered health problems as a result of following Kimmer’s diet plans here. Read the medical evidence that shows clearly why diets such as Kimkins are truly dangerous, not only in the short term, but also in the long term. You may not have any symptoms right now, but continue along that dangerous path, and you will very likely end up far worse off than you are now. Please do your research. Your health is not worth wasting simply to lose weight faster.

Many people say “but the diet works for me!” Well, of course it does, for awhile. Anyone that doesn’t eat more than 500-800 calories a day will lose weight, for awhile. They will see the scale dropping quickly, for awhile. They will slowly begin to see other problems cropping up. Hair loss, amenorrhea, dizziness, fainting, heart palpitations and other symptoms of malnutrition and dangerously rapid weight loss. Crack cocaine makes people lose weight quickly too, but you wouldn’t use that, would you?

Please, consider the information that is presented all over the web. Read the blogs. Read the forums. Do the research and discovered for yourself the truth that you so desperately need to know. Open your eyes and you will see.

Please do it now before it’s too late.

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Crack makes you lose weight quickly? Kimmer! What a great Idea! You can add a 6th option to Kimkins and make another boatload!

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September 18, 2007 at 6:03 pm

OddManOut

Have there been any responses from the current staff? I don’t expect them to speak out since they’re taking the lead from the boss herself, but there’s always a chance that one of them will break radio silence (and probably get banned haha).





Getting to Know Tippy Toes

11 09 2007

One of the newest admins at Kimkins is Jeannie Baitinger, aka ‘Tippy Toes’ in the Kimkins forums and Low Carb Friends forums. For the purpose of keeping things simple here, we’ll refer to her as ‘Tippy’ throughout.

Tippy joined Low Carb Friends back in April 2004 when she started a low carbohydrate diet (Atkins) and weighed 263 pounds. Since that time she’s admittedly struggled to lose the weight desired and declared herself at goal on September 8, 2006 after losing 100 pounds. In the last year she’s maintained her weight between 150 and 155 pounds, alternating between Atkins and Kimkins. Why we make this an issue is that she recently wrote a positive 5 star review at the BBB for Kimkins, on September 7, 2007,

This is the BEST weight loss website I have been to yet! Thanks to Kimkins.com I have lost 112 lbs, have never been sick, got off blood pressure and cholesterol meds and I feel terrific! I have NEVER experienced anything but positive help from the site and I was NEVER told to use laxitives OR lower calories–ever.I cannot say enough good things about the website. I tried other weight loss plans and they did not work but that Kimkins sure did! And I have medical records and pictures to prove it. Just ask me for them.

Within the Low Carb Friends postings she’s made, it’s clear she did not follow Kimkins exclusively.
In fact, through her own posts at Low Carb Friends, we learn she lost 47 pounds following Atkins, stalled for six months, moved to South Beach, then Eat Fat Get Thin, then a Fruit Rotation regiment, then Kimkins, and then finally a rotation of Atkins and Kimkins.

Yet, in the above review she attributes her entire weight loss to Kimkins. This may well be because she was the featured weight loss success recently in the Kimkins newsletter (issue 20). In that feature she states she started with Atkins and then found Kimkins when her weight loss stalled, she was frustrated and “starving and felt terrible…I was desperate.” In that feature she also willingly states she alternates between Kimkins and Atkins. This fact is curious given Kimmer’s (Heidi Diaz) disdain for Atkins and its allowance for higher fat meats and dairy. When we review the situation, it is clearer why Kimmer is open to Tippy saying many of the things she does in her success story. Kimmer is losing staff left and right and needs to replace staffers fleeing her company and site. She knows one thing about Tippy, and that’s her long standing desire to be an Admin at Low Carb Friends, a position she is now more than willing to extend to Tippy now that she, Kimmer, is desperate.We recently learned that over the years Tippy has long desired a position of Admin at Low Carb Friends and has made this desire known to many close to her, including Kimmer prior to her departure from that forum.

Last year Tippy stirred up things on a weight loss challenge thread on Low Carb Friends by being very critical of the Low Carb Friends admins at the time. She made it known she believed she was qualified to be an Admin and when a position as one was not offered, she started passing along private information about the Low Carb Friends admins behind the scenes in emails and Private Messages in an attempt to turn them on each other. In those communications we are told she alluded to questionable behavior by the Low Carb Friends Admins at a pig roast in Tennessee she attended, allegations we will not detail here, but suffice to say included implications of inpropriety between Admins whom were not married to each other.

An attention junkie like Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) she spent months attempting to garner a position of Admin within Low Carb Friends to no avail, but her desire to be one continued.

As soon as Kimmer offered an Admin position to Tippy, she jumped at it and quickly told her friends, expressing her delight at the opportunity. We’re told she said she was thrilled by the “authority” Kimmer entrusted her with and also expressed a grand plan to completely revamp the Kimkins diet plans into something she believed would be healthier and much less objectionable to those concerned over the safety of the plans as currently written.

May we remind her she need only look as far as Becky to see such changes will not be tolerated by Kimmer. Read Becky’s Reasonable Appeal to make changes and Kimmer’s reply point by point.

What is more disturbing than her less than accurate BBB review however, is that she’s taken to doing Kimmer’s biding on Low Carb Friends. In a very recent post there, she laid the groundwork to instill doubts in the minds of those concerned about Kimkins and Kimmer by questioning not only the motivation of those engaging on the Facination thread, but also attempted to lay blame for the entire situation on one individual, former business partner Catherine (whose husband is releasing details of that partnership at Slamboard).

Her post, titled Are We Being Used, includes the following,

Just a thought. Notice the person who started this thread is a junior member (meaning newly registered) and does not continue to post? Notice so many junior members coming in now? It is easy to assume they are from Kimkins site BUT I wonder about the truth in that assumption for many reasons. One, I recall Catherine telling X LCF members how easily identity can change so they could come back without admins knowing it was them… Cutie–remember that? Two, I notice the junior members seem computer savvy enough to post info and pics I would not have a clue about myself… Now I am not saying every single junior member here is ficticious. But I think many may be. Tom, can you check out this possibility?Is it possible this whole thing has been created by the ex biz partner, who is clearly mad as heck? Also, keep in mind it is the same creator of slamboards and…perhaps Ducky? Oddly enough, Catherine admits it was her idea to start a website for Kimkins–not Kimmers. So I don’t think Kimmer spent countless hours here plotting but I think Catherine did. Also, Catherine just thought Kimkins was a wonderful plan and fully endorsed and followed it, according to her. Until the partnership disolved, that is. Now it can kill you…WTH?

And the Kimkins survivors blogs… Are they real? How do we know? And the 14 year old–was that real?
The threats to anyone who is a moderator for her site–threats of fraud and lawsuits… A bully tactic for sure to intimidate them into walking out. The claims of KimATC being 50 lbs over weight…How rude was that, asking her how that Kimkins diet was working out? In fact, that statement points that Kimkins doesn’t work and we have established it does. We all have weight problems which is why we diet. The pressure is on–but by whom? The reasons seem pretty obvious.

Don’t get me wrong. I KNOW there are some of those people here in a genuine manner. I know a couple of you from her site and I know you had concerns (even if you are ALL at goal now thanks to her diet). I do not agree with cutting calories further in the event of a stall either. But perhaps Kimmer was in the learning process herself and it was a bad decision, or mistake. And maybe Kimmer did gain weight back and won’t tell. Take a good look around this site. How many people have gained their weight back and refuse to remove the skinny avitor pics and change stats accordingly? I think many of us are guilty for that.

Are we all puppets on a string being manipulated by a raging X partner?

We know in the past Kimmer has taken to manipulating situations to motivate individuals to do things they might not do on their own. An example of such behaviour in the past is the January 2007 blog by Jimmy Moore, where he attacked Low Carb Friends and did so in a scathing and vicious manner. He’s since retracted that post, but our memory is long here and we’ve been told that Kimmer’s input was indeed the impetus for that post.

It’s interesting that many of the points Tippy brought to her post at Low Carb Friends are now the same points Kimmer is trying deperately to convince her members of within the Kimkins forums. It appears much of Tippy’s post contents were scripted by Kimmer. Tippy seems unaware of the manipulative instincts of Kimmer and may not realize how she too is now being used by her as a means to an end.We ask this, Tippy how could you associate yourself with Kimmer given all the facts now in the public view?

EDITED TO ADD
We’d like to remind readers that this is the same Tippy Toes who organized the fundraiser for Kimmer’s (Heidi Diaz) phantom foster children last summer. Tippy accepted the position of Admin after revelation of the fact Heidi Diaz has no foster children and has not had foster children in her care since at least 2000.





Kimkins Latest Scam

7 09 2007

Just moments ago, Kimmer posted a thread in the Kimkins forums designed to appear she is one of five partners in the business and she is not Heidi Diaz.

The post in question,

Subject: What is with people?
Author: Kimmer (Admin)

I wasn’t going to comment on the anti-Kimmer blogs or the photos because this is exactly what they want and I won’t oblige them.

However, posting about Heidi and digging through her trash is absolutely disgusting. Thanks to all of you who sent PMs of concern and support. She’s OK with it, her first comment was “Did he have the car air conditioning on?” because it’s been 100+ degrees nearly all month in Corona. Many people have died from heat and her first concern was for him.

What we don’t understand is the “secret”? What secret? Raise your hand if you joined with a check or money order. Who did you make the check out to? Heidi Diaz/Kimkins, right? That information has been on this site since we upgraded in May and was in email instructions for joining by check for a year before that. What’s new?

Everything about Kimkins is in Heidi’s name and always has been. When my partnership with my former partner dissolved I borrowed money from everyone I knew to raise the buyout funds. They became my new partners. There are 5 plus me — not that it’s anyone’s business.

Kimkins has grown to nearly 40,000 members. Does anyone honestly think I do this all by myself? We have working partners, paid staff, generous volunteers and tech crews. Two staffers are morbidly obese, we don’t discriminate against fat people here. We have people of different ethnicities and religions also, if anyone’s interested. Maybe the anti-Kimmer blogs would like a photo of our staff member who’s confined to a wheelchair, too? What is with these people?

What they say about me doesn’t matter a flying frigg. When they start dragging other people into, it gets my dander up. OK, rant over. What’s the scientific calculation for jumping to conclusions?

BTW, for those who have asked why we don’t accept credit card payment directly and use Paypal instead, the anti-Kimmer group is a good example. If you enter your CC info on our site, it remains in our database and is, theoretically hackable. To protect our members, we use Paypal.

At least we have an admission the woman in the photographs is Heidi Diaz.

We a bit perplexed by how Kimmer is going to explain away all the indentifying data she herself has posted which identifies her as Heidi Diaz now?

How exactly will she explain away her birthdate being the same as Heidi Diaz?

How exactly will she explain away the Kimmer profiles online with clear identification of ownership being Heidi Diaz?

How exactly will she explain away it was Heidi Diaz who partnered with Catherine and subsequently bought her out of the partnership agreement?

How exactly will she explain away the facts we all see?

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September 7, 2007 at 5:01 pm

kkatastrophediet

Like this: “I’m sorry your Honor, but I have no recollection of that at this time.”

September 7, 2007 at 5:23 pm

Kimkins Dangers

This is so utterly astounding. I honestly didn’t think anything could shock me after everything that’s already been said and done, but O…M…G.

We all know that Kimmer is Heidi, but with the (poor) use of a little neuro-linguistic programming, she attempts to spin it and do some damage control, well, she tried anyway.

Does she not remember that it was Catherine’s husband who posted the pictures of Heidi? Catherine, the one that signed business agreements with Heidi Diaz / Kimmer? Does she think that Catherine and Martin will remain silent and let her pretend that she is not Heidi / Kimmer?

This whole post speaks to a serious, serious psychological disorder. Pathological lying, narcissism, possibly even multiple personalities. The woman needs some real help and intervention.

September 7, 2007 at 5:24 pm

Kimmerexia

So, she’s saying that her ‘before’ pictures were also of this Heidi who we’re now supposed to believe isn’t her?

And that this ‘Heidi-not-Kimmer’ just happens to use the same old photos for her classmates.com and dating website profiles as well?

And that this ‘Heidi-not-Kimmer’ is also just coincidentally a CASA and (former) foster parent?

And that this ‘Heidi-not-Kimmer’ also recieved her degree in Public Administration?

Also, if set up correctly, you can accept credit card payments “directly” and not retain the credit card information. The organization I work for does exactly that. You don’t have to go through PayPal in order not to retain the credit card numbers.

September 7, 2007 at 5:39 pm

Kimkins Dangers

Now she’s announcing that Kimkins will be doing MORE fundraising and donating “anonymously” to charity. I hope, HOPE HOPE that no one is foolish enough to send her more money!

September 7, 2007 at 5:46 pm

Kimmerexia

How convenient. Collect donations and then supposedly make “anonymous” contributions to charities. No paper trail, no auditing, no accountability.

Where did the money she raised for “her foster children” go since she had no foster children?

September 7, 2007 at 6:09 pm

Kim

Well, she has to start another fund raiser, I’m sure her new memberships must be declining.

So, getting this straight…she said membership is 40,000 people….since some of us paid $40, some paid $60 (probably most since the WW article)…take 40,000 x $50 (just to try to average it out)….$2 Million!!! I’m sick to my stomach…this doesn’t include her “fundraisers” either.

September 7, 2007 at 6:18 pm

Kim

Hey Kimmerexia, I just read your review on BBB – it was GREAT! Very, very well written.

September 7, 2007 at 6:19 pm

anani

This is from a post she made on the Ask Kimmer thread at LCF May 2 2006

How funny! I was Room Mom for 5 years when my son was in Christian school and Miss Heidi became second nature to me.

September 7, 2007 at 6:24 pm

Karen

Back in 2006 she said on LCF that her name is Heidi. Someone caller her “Miss Kimmer” but she read it as “Miss Heidi”. Another interesting coincidence?? LOL!

Quote:
05-02-2006, 12:59 PM #457 (permalink)
Kimmer
Way too much time on my hands!

Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: California
Posts: 19,124
Gallery: Kimmer

Stats: 318/118/125
WOE: Kimkins Quote:
Originally Posted by NBehr
Miss Kimmer (and I mean that in a respectful “Miss Kitty”-from-Gunsmoke-kinda-way — I’m old, lol),

I really don’t like salads. Is it possible to avoid them on the Kimkins plan? Can I sub cooked veggies for them, or what, and if so, how much? I’m not really a fan of raw veggies.

Thanks,

NB

This is Kimmer’s response.

Of course! Scratch the salad and pick a couple veggies that you do like … just watch the butter. If you’re picking lean protein I think 1 cup of cooked veggies for lunch & dinner is good. Remember, you’ll be hungry the first few days so eat (just pick smart).

Miss Heidi? Hey, that’s a heck of a lot better than some things I’ve been called! I answer to everything …

Here Cutie points out her error:

Quote:
05-02-2006, 01:03 PM #458 (permalink)
Cutie
happy girlie girl!

Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 5,496
Gallery: Cutie

actually, she said “Miss Kimmer” not “Miss Heidi”
__________________
Goal Story w/Pics: http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/ma…tory-pics.html

Here Kimmer responds:

Quote:
05-02-2006, 01:34 PM #460 (permalink)
Kimmer
Way too much time on my hands!

Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: California
Posts: 19,124
Gallery: Kimmer

Stats: 318/118/125
WOE: Kimkins Quote:

How funny! I was Room Mom for 5 years when my son was in Christian school and Miss Heidi became second nature to me.

“Miss Kimmer” is so cute, LOL.

September 7, 2007 at 6:54 pm

Karen

AND….in 2004, she said her last name was DIAZ!!! Oh, what a tangled web you weaved for yourself, Kimmer/Heidi….

06-17-2004, 12:37 AM #20 (permalink)
Kimmer
Way too much time on my hands!

Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: California
Posts: 19,124
Gallery: Kimmer

Stats: 318/118/125
WOE: Kimkins Quote:
Originally posted by MichelleM
This one is made by CACIQUEinc. http://www.caciqueUSA.com Manufactured obviously in the USA.

Check the label to see if it’s processed there … that’s from a sanitation standpoint.

My last name is Diaz so I’m aware of the chorizo ‘innards’ (note that I don’t buy any, LOL!)

Keep in mind how SMALL 3.5 ounces RAW is … not a whole lot, especially if you’re eating high calorie stuff during the day (hamburger, cheese).

Good luck!!!

September 7, 2007 at 7:07 pm

Kimmerexia

Kim sez: “Hey Kimmerexia, I just read your review on BBB – it was GREAT! Very, very well written.”

Thank you Kim. It’s a bit of an updated rework that I’ve already sent off to the applicable governmental agencies.

September 7, 2007 at 7:12 pm

Kimmerexia

Kim sez: “Well, she has to start another fund raiser, I’m sure her new memberships must be declining.”

I agree. The blip she experienced from the Woman’s World weekly rag from three months ago is long over. Kimkins google hits are way down. Her technorati rating is stagnant while KimkinsExposed rapidly gains authority.

Kim sez: “So, getting this straight…she said membership is 40,000 people….since some of us paid $40, some paid $60 (probably most since the WW article)…take 40,000 x $50 (just to try to average it out)….$2 Million!!! I’m sick to my stomach…this doesn’t include her “fundraisers” either.”

I think her reported numbers of members is just another of the multiple lies. Things started getting too hot and she had to pull the faked membership and activity counts off of the Kimkins site.

September 7, 2007 at 7:42 pm

Kimmerexia

Posted by Leashy at LCF…

“I just want to put this together. First, this was posted at the KK site by kimmer about the PI pics of Heidi Diaz?”

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimmer
Miss Heidi? Hey, that’s a heck of a lot better than some things I’ve been called!.

Ask Kimmer! http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/main-lowcarb-lobby/259528-post-how-you-got-your-user-name-here.html#post3447057

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimmer
My middle name is Kimberly.

Post how you got your user name here….. http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/main-lowcarb-lobby/259528-post-how-you-got-your-user-name-here.html#post3447057

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimmer
My last name is Diaz so I’m aware of the chorizo ‘innards’ (note that I don’t buy any, LOL!)

CHORIZO http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/main-lowcarb-lobby/244551-chorizo.html

September 7, 2007 at 7:46 pm

Kim

Kimmerexia, You’re probably right, nothing she says can be taken as the truth. My AG report is getting finished and mailed this weekend. I was hoping to get it mailed today, but I won’t have time to finish it up.

I just used my basic corporate law “smarts” to check to see if she ever registered Kimkins as an actual company (Inc., LLC, LLP, etc.) through the Secretary of State’s office and she did NOT. No surprise, but it does mean that she’s operating as a d/b/a and is PERSONALLY LIABLE for any and all actions of Kimkins. I don’t know why I didn’t think of checking this sooner. She might try to push off the admins actions as their own, but if they are paid employees or even the unpaid, she is responsible as well as their “employer”. The admins can be held accountable as well, but she isn’t in the clear – it’s her domain name, etc. that she has allowed them to operate under. Her hands are way too dirty now, she can’t possibly think she’s going to get out of this unscathed. Then again, I’m sure that’s exactly what she thinks.

September 8, 2007 at 12:52 am

tiredofscams

Hmm.

Sounds to me like someone’s preparing her “insanity” defense.

September 8, 2007 at 5:27 am

Mimi

Oh … now I get it. Heidi a.k.a. Kimmer isn’t talking about that Heidi a.k.a. Kimmer. She’s talking about the other Heidi a.k.a. Kimmer. It all makes perfect sense! 😉

September 8, 2007 at 8:17 am

Mimi

Note to Karen and Kimmerexia: Excellent detective work! Very helpful, and truly stunning to see it all put together like that.

Mimi
loopy_literatum@yahoo.com

September 8, 2007 at 1:36 pm

Karen

Regarding Kimmer claiming that “Heidi Diaz” is a different person….this occurred to me this morning.

When “Heidi Diaz” signed up at the Plenty of Fish dating site, she used the user name “Kimmer”.

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member414234.htm

Here are the facts:

>The pictures are ones that “kimmer” used as her before pictures.

>The pictures look very much like the PI photos published on Slamboard.

>The pictures show her son, who we have seen pictures of now that he is 18 and have determined that this IS Brandon Diaz.

>This is the same picture that Heidi Kimberly Miller Diaz used for her Classmates profile.

>Kimmer claims to be a foster mom, and Heidi Diaz claims to be a former foster mom.

>Kimmer claims to do volunteer work with CASA and Heidi Diaz claims to do volunteer work with CASA.

So, if Heidi Diaz and Kimmer are two separate people, why would Heidi Diaz be using the screenname “Kimmer” at least a year ago (In the ad she says her son is 17, and it has been determined that he is now at least 1 8)

And long before Kimmer was looking for new partners, and when she claims to have put the business in Heidi’s name. (which of course, was a lie, because the business was in Heidi Diaz’s name when she was in business with Catherine.)

If they were two separate people, they have had a strange symboitic relationship for an awfully long time.

Of course, I am not stupid, so I don’t believe they are 2 separate people….but nice try, Kimmer

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September 11, 2007 at 3:04 pm

OddManOut

[quote]September 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pm
kkatastrophediet
Like this: “I’m sorry your Honor, but I have no recollection of that at this time.”[quote]

Maybe she’s really Oliver North?





Kimkins Members Attack Child on Kimkins Forum

7 09 2007

In an update following the dangerous advice to the 14 year old girl within the Kimkins website (clearly contrary to Heidi Diaz’s claim that teens are not allowed in her site), the teen posted that she’s doing better, eating more calories and seeking advice for health outside the Kimkins site. In what can only be described as a viscious attack on this child, members were quick to reply with the following, and keep in mind these are adults replying to a child,

OSusana: Glad you lost the weight on KIMKINS…. You didn’t LOSE iT eating bananas and bread, peanut butter and oatmeal…
You lost it following Kimkins…. Good for you…
We are here to lose weight just like you did…. DOING KIMKINS…. why on EARTH would we want to break away and go eat bananas
and all the other carbs that made us fat….?

Surley you jest…. pffftttt…

.o.. go eat your peanut butter and banana sandwiches….

Another adult, who appears to know this is a child, replies,

this topic you created called its NOT over…. we ADULTS know how to eat well and HOW to encorportate other types of food back in our lives in moderation, we also know how to see our medical doctor for any concerns and we adults know how to take our multi-vitamins daily.. It’s NOT about the food, its about how you live your LIFE. I am happy that you lost the weight and then created a plan that is good for YOU.

Kimmers way of eating has saved thousands if not millions of lives and WE LOVE KIMMER and protect her from people like YOU.

so please go about your merry way and take your ass on!

The thread has since been deleted, but email verifications of its existence and all posts made remain. Amazing how adults treated this child, isn’t it?

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September 7, 2007 at 3:53 pm

Kim

How could anybody do this to a child? Let alone a child who is obviously reaching out for help. My guess is, the 14 year old probably got banned too.

September 7, 2007 at 4:22 pm

kkatastrophediet

Yes and apparently I was banned over this thread for informing the obnoxious posters that it was a 14 year old–rethink your posts.
I also told the girl Congrats and she should start her own blog, with permission of course.
Definitely a reason to be banned from a site I PAID FOR. Thread’s gone but I have screen shots, so, it’s not forgotten…

September 7, 2007 at 4:26 pm

OddManOut

“Kimmers way of eating has saved thousands if not millions of lives and WE LOVE KIMMER and protect her from people like YOU.”

I’d like to see the statistics to back that claim. After they’re finished genuflecting.

September 7, 2007 at 4:26 pm

kkatastrophediet

And, another thing–the posters claimed not to know it was a 14 year old, and that she should let someone know. How about we do two things:
1) Don’t allow minors to remain members by refunding their money and blocking them AND
2) You posters (you know who you are) should not speak to anyone that way–what makes you think it is okay if it is a grown up? Open mouth insert FOOT.

September 8, 2007 at 7:26 pm

osuzana

My comment is THIS!

I made the comment to the poster, not knowing she was a 14 year old… HOW would anyone know that?

and Don’t you dare chastize me about how a person should address another adult on this issue… You all created this heat…at LCF
I have been to the LCF and read the horrible way peolpe over there referred to the people on the Kimkins web site…

We were “brainwashed” idiots who were drinking “the kool aid”
nice huh?

These are Outrageous statements, and there were many, many more..

My comments to this so called 14 year old were justified… after SHE made comments about how she lost the weight successfully while ON Kimkins,

and then turned around urging everyone to get out while we can… and then wondering if she would get banned because of it??

I was defending the web site and the plan…it works…she just admitted that!
And you bet, there are a lot of people on edge at that web site…so of course we will defend it, and since there was no way of knowing she was 14 we defended it as though she were any other of the adult moles in there spying stealing peoples posts, and spreading BAD AIR, and urging people to defect.

I simply told her to go eat her peanut butter and banana sandwiches, after SHE JUST GOT DONE BRAGGING in that very post that was WHAT SHE WAS eating! although not in that order…

I am so SICK of seeing half truths about this diet.
WE DON”T CARE ABOUT KIMMER…..we are there to lose weight, can’t you GET that?
I don’t want to have coffee with her, or see if she pays her taxes.

many of you have NOT even done the plan, so how would you know?
and most of you ignore the fact, that this plan WORKS!!!

and you ignore the fact that many did not join the web site to sit with kimmer…whomever she is…. WE DON’T CARE!!!

The web site is “us” the people who enjoy being there!
We have formed a wonderful community there, it is the people on the web site that make the web site what is is … not Kimmer..

Now that it is invaded by LCF worms it is very hard to be there anymore.
and that is sad…

Let me ask you this… when you joined LCF…did you join it for TOM? or for the community support?
I joined LCF for the support and when I joined I didn’t even know WHO Tom was …nor did I care.

I’m beginning to care tho’ because of the blood thirsty lynch mob his site has spawned… what is going on there, is no better than what kimkins is being accused of… ruthlessness on both sides..its sick!

I have read posts on LCF stating how horrible the Kimkins site is because of her deleting posts and banning people, and reading PM’s

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? SERIOUSLY????
I think she learned how to do that FROM LCF. What a joke!
WHAT A JOKE! Are you all forgetting something??
LCF was the forerunner of Kimkins… she got good training.

It’s time LCF looks in its own back yard and cleans it up, before it goes any further launching vendettas against someone else!

I am leaving Kimkins… Not because of anything that the community there has done…
but because of the underhanded deviousness that LCF has allowed to happen there.. when I post something and then see it elsewhere and only with half the truth, then I consider that deviousness, and just outrageous…

when you have to go STEALING peoples posts and twist them to your own way of thinking, or not state the whole truth, wellll… then something is just messed up!

Don’t have enough ammunition for your hate vendetta?… OK go dig some up and twist it your way… NICE!

as FOR THE 14 YEAR OLD…I AM SORRY TO HAVE OFFENDED HER… not my intent to a 14 year old… that is NOT who I am.
But she wrote what she wrote…and are you all saying a 14 year old can’t think abnd write what she feels because she is 14?… hogwash!
I knew what I was doing at that age. 14 year olds are NOT stupid!

Stop looking for excuses to fly your evil plane… stop using a 14 year old to keep your hate crusade going .
Get over it!

You need to know I am not defending Kimmer…. I am defending my post over there, and the GOOd people on that web site!

——————–

Thank you for stopping by. You’ve spectacularly shown the world exactly the type of person you are. Bravo!

September 8, 2007 at 10:17 pm

osuzana

Thank you for stopping by. You’ve spectacularly shown the world exactly the type of person you are. Bravo!

You are so very welcome!…
perhaps I have shown the world that there are 2 sides to every story… and exposing, and explaining, something that is misleading is the RIGHT thing to do!

The “Sensationalism” in this headline is VERY misleading, It reads like a rag sheet ……like the National Enquirer….
NO ONE “ATTACKED A CHILD” tell the WHOLE true story… (yeah right)!

September 9, 2007 at 1:02 am

kkatastrophediet

It was Kimmer’s responsibility to block her access, per her stated “policy” as soon as she knew she was a teen. Instead she advised her she didn’t need anymore calories, KNOWING FULL WELL it was a teen. You don’t care who Kimmer is? Many members don’t. What does that say? There are MANY good people on that website, and thanks to the fact that I tried to let you and others know it was a 14 year old girl, in a non-confrontational way, I might add, I WAS BANNED. Were you? I was on that site for a year, and it is an awesome place for support. Unfortunately it is also a place where teens are told to not eat more (true, whether you want to admit it or not), where people are manipulated (you’ve seen Becky’s blog, right?) and where the owner is involved in shady business practices. If you are not defending Kimmer, does it really matter what address is on your screen and where your support comes from? No, if you’re not defending Kimmer, it shouldn’t.

September 9, 2007 at 1:17 am

GinaC at LCF

Good thing you don’t ‘CARE ABOUT KIMMER’ cause apparently Kimmer don’t care about you. Don’t believe me? Go read Becky’s latest!

September 9, 2007 at 1:27 am

graciej

Hi Osuzana,

Just wanted to let you know that I posted your comments at ALC, not LCF. I posted the whole thing. I didn’t twist it. How was it “half truth”? They were your words.

I find it hard to believe that you didn’t know that she is 14 because she has been a topic of much discussion on this blog and lcf for the last few weeks. But even giving you the benefit of the doubt that you didn’t know she is 14, there is no excuse for that type of post directed at anyone. It was rude, period. But really, it was typical for you.

I have done kimkins. I have experienced the negative side effects that have been discussed here and elsewhere. I will continue to shine the light on the inside goings on of kimkins.com until that site no longer exists.

September 9, 2007 at 1:31 am

mariasol

How would you NOT know that she was 14? She had her pics in her signature (the same ones that have been posted all over the internet by now) AND there is that little button under her name that shows her birthdate when you click on it. This girl never hid her age on the board.

September 9, 2007 at 1:45 am

Karen

So, Osuzana…you don’t care that Kimmer sells her website and her diet plan based on her own success with it….even though that success has been proved to be a lie?? Have you read the blogs about Kimmer? Do you see all her lies? The lies she has been telling for years? And that honestly doesn’t bother you???
I really can’t understand that mindset.

September 9, 2007 at 1:56 am

Kimkins Dangers

So.. you’re all so close over there, such a great bonded community, so tight knit and loving and all that.. but you didn’t know that regular poster (who WE all knew) was a teen? Riiiiiiight.

September 9, 2007 at 2:31 am

Kimmerexia

osuzana freaks out: “We were “brainwashed” idiots who were drinking “the kool aid”
nice huh?”

That’s “brainwashed idiots who were drinking the SUGAR-FREE Kool-Aid,” hun.

Diet Coke flavored. That way it’s even allowed during extended periods of fasting and laxative abuse.

September 9, 2007 at 7:17 am

kkatastrophediet

Were you banned? Let us know! List being compiled at
http://kkatastrophediet.wordpress.com/

September 9, 2007 at 2:21 pm

ban kimmer

Again I maintain WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU? Every kimmeroonie supporter is so angry and ugly when posting. Sorry that some of us found fault in the way you spoke to the teen. Let me make it easier on you, I don’t care if you were talking to a kid or adult your post was juvenile! Go eat your peanut buter sandwich? That’s so stupid. You sound like the fat kid at the playground picking on all the other fat kids.

We, the people who actually care about people haven’t even made those fat joke comments to your leader as we have all been there done that at some time.

Why is it ok for you to make ugly comments like that?

Because you are just as bad as her. You don’t care about anyone but yourself, and you don’t care about anything but the diet working.

Well punkin I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again….the diet does work, so does crank, heroin and tape worms but no one is touting useing those are they? DUH! Of course if you stop eating and drink only water or diet coke you’ll lose weight a retarded monkey could have figured that out. What you need to understand is you are doing damage to your metabolism.

But don’t think about that now. And when you are 40 yrs old and you can’t lose all the weight you will gain back let’s see who’s hurling fat jokes then ok? Sheesh!

September 10, 2007 at 1:22 pm

Bye-Bye Osuzana! « Kimkins Exposed

[…] Monday, September 10th, 2007 in low carb friends, online tracking, Low-Calorie Diet, Kimkins Diet, kimkins fraud, kimkins controversy, Osuzana, kimkins admins, kimkins dieting, Kimkins.com, vLCD, dieting, lies, Diet, Weight Loss, Low-Fat, Malnutrition, Heidi Diaz, Kimmer, Kimkins, security In a very vocal diatribe recently, Kimkins member Osuzana made quite a spectacle of herself here in comments. […]

October 3, 2007 at 7:33 pm

schemingturkey

hey everyone,

i just joined and wanted to say hi. 🙂

October 19, 2007 at 6:44 pm

hollywoodheidi

Hi! I just found this forum and it looks really cool.

Now, I gotta run off and read some posts. 🙂

October 25, 2007 at 2:01 pm

Speajepireeld

What’s Up?,

I’m just starting here. And it feels like an awesome forum.

I just wanted to give a nice hello to all of you here. 🙂

-Dana

November 14, 2007 at 11:14 am

keydaytaf

Hello
I’ve just registered at the forum. This is my first message.
Please don’t become angry about me.
Thank you.

January 3, 2008 at 1:22 am

WhereistheLOVE

osuzana’s comments, her demeanor and energy in general is what perpetuates the stereotype that women are “catty”.

April 11, 2008 at 4:52 am

upliftist

Hello my friends 🙂 😉





Kimkins Imploding from Within

5 09 2007

Members are slowly coming to realize the deception.

A member wrote:
I just read on Christin’s blog that she had health problems from the woe.   She told everyone she was given a clean bill of health.  I guess that ws after she was treated for the problems?

Another just replied:
Im not sure if it was Christin that said she got a clean bill of health or those were Kimmers words.
Nevertheless the truth is coming out about this plan.
Of course we all want to lose weight
Of course we want to lose it fast
But long term damage to your health wasnt listed as one of the side effects when i signed up
Of course your going to lose weight only eating 500 calories a day ….duh
The real Kimmer needs to show herself as she is not who she says she is
She had her stomach stapled many moons ago to lose weight
And has since regained it all plus some
they’ve found out the truth
Stay tuned to the news and magazines…….





Kimkins, Not Safe for Diabetics, as per TOS

4 09 2007

Kkatastrophediet posted today about the changes to the Kimkins site Terms of Service. Within the change is a notable warning,

This program should not be attempted by anyone with the following conditions without prior approval from their physician: pregnant or nursing mothers, patients with history of gout, kidney failure or disease, gallbladder issues, those under the age of 18 and those with blood glucose issues such as diabetes or hypoglycemia. The content relayed on Kimkins.com is not to be interpreted as advocating the self-management of your medical condition(s) or those of your family.

Contrast that with the promotional page ‘Thinking About Kimkins?’ that lures the unsuspecting with the following bold statement,

Is Kimkins good for diabetics? Kimkins is perfect for all diabetics!

It appears Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will say anything to convince those reading her promotional material to sign up and pay her $60, even if it means potentially compromising the health of someone with diabetes. How shameful.

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September 4, 2007 at 3:36 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Bla bla bla “don’t sue me.” Bla bla bla “don’t tell anyone what I told you.” Bla bla bla “pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.” Wtf ever. Wow…someone is really good at slide of hand!

Don’t forget Kimmeroonie, you said it was good for diabetics on your pod cast. 🙂

September 4, 2007 at 3:57 pm

Kimkins Dangers

Kimmeroonie, lol.

The “safe for all diabetics” issue is one that I have been very upset with from the beginning. Now suddenly her tos is changed and if you read the entire post at the Kkatastrophe blog, you’ll see how many times it says “WE ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANYTHING BAD THINGS THAT HAPPEN TO YOU ON THIS DIET”.

If the diet is so great, so healthy, so wonderful, why would they need to say that?

September 4, 2007 at 4:06 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Uh….let me expound….that would be because kimmeroonie is staring at the business end of a class action lawsuit. Woops!

September 4, 2007 at 4:20 pm

Healthy LCer

This is still on her home page:

And, Kimkins is the perfect diet for type 1 and 2 diabetics! Our program offers superior blood sugar control. In fact, many type 2 diabetes members get off their meds like Glucophage and Metformin!

September 4, 2007 at 4:46 pm

Laura

A disclaimer does not absolve you if you continue to make statements saying the opposite. Her promotion and terms of service/disclaimer are not aligned, thus she remains open to liability!

September 4, 2007 at 4:49 pm

ooBoo

Kimmer is way open to liability, she knows it and pretends it’s not there. I seriously hope her members initiate a class action suit soon, they have cause and should take the opportunity while the irons are hot, hot, hot!

September 4, 2007 at 4:58 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Yup and don’t forget that she’s been dumb enough to record her claims for all posterity on Jimmy’s pod cast. Good thinking! All it takes is a first year law student and someone’s out of business and refuinding all of her clients money. :))

September 4, 2007 at 5:36 pm

LisaLC

“Yup and don’t forget that she’s been dumb enough to record her claims for all posterity on Jimmy’s pod cast. Good thinking! All it takes is a first year law student and someone’s out of business and refuinding all of her clients money. :))”

IF that was her. How do we know? What prevents her from saying it was someone else posing as her? It was just a voice recording, after all. She has woven a tangled web, for sure. I can hardly wait until this whole thing is blown wide open.

September 5, 2007 at 3:32 am

ban kimmer

Oh trust me, if it gets to a court phase, they are going to do all they can to prove that it was her, including but not limited to finding out how Jimmy contacted her to make arrangements, what phone number was used, what email to set it up. It will be substantiated. And the SSKimmer will be sunk.