Let’s Review Important Information

5 10 2007

Since July we’ve posted about the dangers of the Kimkins diet and the deceptions used in selling it.

For those just tuning in, please take a few moments to read some of our most important posts:

Information about the class action lawsuit is available here.

Information about requesting refunds at PayPal is available here.

A summary of the controversy is available on Wikipedia. (Wiki deleted the article)

UPDATE: Ducky is taking the weekend off to spend time with family and friends. For those new to our blog, please take some time this weekend to read our posts and understand why we feel it is important the truth about Kimkins and Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) be exposed. For those continuing along and keeping up, we’ll be back on Monday and hope you’ll take a breather this weekend too to relax and have some fun!

We will be moderating comments over the weekend, so if you leave a comment, it will be in the queue until we get to it as we have time throughout the weekend.

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October 5, 2007 at 2:06 pm

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October 5, 2007 at 2:28 pm

McLurkypants

After some back & forth over deletion attempts, I’ve gotten an article to stick on Wikipedia – all familiar with Wikipedia editing should feel free to hop over there and contribute! Kimkins Controversy on Wikipedia.

October 5, 2007 at 2:51 pm

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October 5, 2007 at 2:58 pm

BamaGal

Here is something else that needs addressing, the Ezine articles. I did a couple of blog posts about it. I still have not received any info from them. But they have addressed it in their own blog. Check out these links.

Ezine Articles « Kimkins Scam

EzineArticles Blog » Battles We Did Not Ask For

October 5, 2007 at 3:07 pm

captivated

mclurkypants – that is beautiful!

i can’t stop watching this story unfold. it’s like the OJ trial!

October 5, 2007 at 11:12 pm

Cryssi

*********for ducky**********

This was made by Gina for you over at LCF. These are the new badges we’re all sporting in leiu of the rubber ducks.

http://www.lowcarbfriends.com/bbs/9311882-post872.html

October 6, 2007 at 2:07 am

Susan

Looks like the Wiki article is down. I was really hoping to check it out, too!
Did anyone copy the Wiki article anywhere that can be read now?

October 6, 2007 at 2:58 am

Kimmer Is Busted

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 3:02 am

kim

Dude, go to LCF, they found the red dress.

October 6, 2007 at 3:02 am

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October 6, 2007 at 3:07 am

kkatastrophediet

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

red dress alert!

October 6, 2007 at 3:12 am

HoneyBee

The big fake picture source was found…Kimmer in the red dress goes by the name Lesya http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 3:47 am

Concerned about kimkins

Ducky Wake the hell up!!!!

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 3:53 am

BamaGal

The lady in the red dress as been found!!!

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 5:34 am

Laura

Here’s the Lady in Red:

Lesya

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=2

October 6, 2007 at 5:47 am

McLurkypants

Have you heard that the RED DRESS photo Kimmer presented as hers has been found on one of those Russian mail order bride sites by a woman named “Buzzybee” at LCF??

HERE she is!

October 6, 2007 at 5:48 am

McLurkypants

OK I don’t know if that link works?

http://www.behappy2day.com/girls_info.php?i=6077&f=1

October 6, 2007 at 8:30 am

Princess Dieter

The Red Dress has been found. 🙂 And Ducky missed it. Dang, Ducky.

But I’m sure by Monday, when you return, there will be all sorts of new reports about the Kimtanic.

Happy Weekend All. I feel sooooo good about that pic being found. YES!

The Princess

October 6, 2007 at 1:02 pm

Susan

Hmm, my post of last night is gone… Anyway, I had posted that the Wiki article is down. Anyone have a copy posted elsewhere that we can read?

October 6, 2007 at 1:13 pm

Princess Dieter

Yeah, it supersucks that they deleted it. McLurky had done a great job, lots of good links. I hope it’s reinstated.

The Princess

October 6, 2007 at 2:14 pm

Susan

PD, I know – I hope to see the Wiki article soon.
McLurky, any chance you kept a copy?
Wow! I wake up this morning to a Blizzard of Red Dresses! This is great.

October 6, 2007 at 3:11 pm

thatgirl

I can’t get into LCF right now. Grrrr. Internet page cannot be displyed. I wonder if Heidi was letting Brandon out his hacker hat on again.

October 6, 2007 at 4:42 pm

Susan

Yep, LCF boards appear to be down. I was able to go to LCD and to the main board page, but was unable to access specific links such as Stillmans etc.

Can’t wait to see what Darth Kimmer still has up her sleeve.

My prediction is her next spin will be to play her sympathy card. She will take a page from the Paris / Brittney playbook.

October 7, 2007 at 2:13 am

McLurkypants

Susan & Ducky, I am having to go thru the challenge procedure on Wikipedia (AGAIN). I have the support of the admins who deleted it the first time I put it up – we shall see what happens.

I AM SO PISSED that I didn’t save a copy of it! Others had gone on and edited & added so much stuff, it was really growing. I hope it will come back – I’ll spread the word when it does. Glad you appreciated it!

October 8, 2007 at 3:10 pm

theTRUTH

This is for the California attorney generals consumer complaint form.

http://ag.ca.gov/contact/complaint_form.php?cmplt=CL

December 27, 2007 at 4:57 pm

katinsac

Friends don’t let friends do Kimkins! Remember that cover girl on the WW Mag? Well, she learned the hard way about Kimkins and it’s dangers!! Read her blog and decide for yourself.

http://the-journey-on.blogspot.com/

December 27, 2007 at 9:43 pm

katinsac

Now that you know the Truth…Join the Lawsuit!!

http://kimkinslawsuit.wordpress.com/





Tippytoes Blames Members for Health Problems

2 10 2007

This morning, Tippytoes (Jeannie Baitinger) is digging in and trying to explain the changes made to the homepage of the Kimkins website. In it, she lays blame for health problems on those following the Kimkins plans.

Tippytoes wrote:

What happened to Kimmer’s Red Dress Picture?

We are making many new and positive changes to this site every single day. We have chosen to remove the red dress photo and in place use People magazine. Too much contravery surrounds that pic and rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it. The success stories are still there although someone else did ask me where they went. I checked and they are there. Not sure if this is a tech glitch or not. But I can look further into it. Does anyone else not see them?

I think it was well said previously that Kimkins diet has been abused by some members at their own doings who now point the finger in blame towards us. We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own. We do not promote starvation, laxitive abuse or any of the like and we are making this clear. There will always be room for improvements and we are always willing to make them. We have even introduced a cycle option as part of the positive change and to help transition towards maintenance later.

We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff. However, rest assured we have some new gathering ideas in the works for next year. What we have in mind will be better and will geer more in tuned with Kimkins diets than an all you can eat fest cruise. I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.

The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here. We have a walk for breast cancer coming up and I will be posting more soon. In addition we are considering a fundraiser challenge to benefit Toys For Tots. Members participating would make and pay their own pledges directly to Toys For Tots. There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.

So hang tight, my fellow Kimkinettes! Change is GOOD!

I want you all to not be afraid to see positive changes being made. This only means we are here to stay and getting better all the time.

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October 2, 2007 at 2:32 pm

Dottie

“rather than try to defend its use we have decided to simply replace it.”

But of course… much easier just to pretend it never existed.

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

Melt’s contribution to the renovations?

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October 2, 2007 at 2:46 pm

Kimmerexia

Tippytoes sez: “We are encouraging everyone to not abuse the plans or themselves for weight loss. They don’t have to! Kimkins works beautifully all on its own.”

No need to “abuse” Kimkins. At 500 to 1,000 calories, it’s already starvation!!!

Tippytoes spins: “We have also removed the cruise info. We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard [SIC] for Kimkins members as well as staff.”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Wouldn’t have anything to do with Regandy, the cruise organizer, jumping ship from the sinking good ship Kimtanic, would it? Noooooooooo, of course not!!!

Tippytoes defines: “Kimkinettes!”

Ah, so THAT’S what the remaining smattering of duped sugar-free kool-aid drinking minions are officially called.

Tippytoes pathetically optimistically quips: “The year 2008 is going to offer a lot of fun for members here.”

Yes indeed. The lawsuits, governmental investigations and transitioning former KimkinETTES from starvation to healthful ways of eating is gonna be a friggin’ laugh a minute.

October 2, 2007 at 2:52 pm

Kim

“I have cruised many times and it is not possible in my opinion to not gain some weight. So we are making positive changes in this area as well.”

Don’t trust the members to make their own decisions on what they eat? Why not tell the real reason….Heidi still wouldn’t show her face and too many questions were asked about it, so it was decided to just remove all info and hope they’ve banned everyone who knew about Heidi’s refusal.

October 2, 2007 at 3:05 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Members abusing the plan and eating low calories against Kimmer” will?
This is typical “blame the victim” abusive thinking.

Anyone who has been around Kimkins for long knows that ultra-low calories was always Kimmer’s intention. It is precisely what makes it Kimkins, not Atkins.

When I was on Boot Camp, exercising, eating an average of 465 calories a day, and stalled, and had the nerve to complain about it and decide to increase my fats, Kimmer’s emailed response was (and i quote):

“Someone can “eat clean” and still be too high in
calories, even if they’re low by other diet standards.

Certainly no one would think 900 calories a day is
“high”, but it’s 3 times as much as someone doing the
Egg White Challenge at 300 calories a day. Weight
loss will be different. Don’t forget people who
dabble in days of fasting, too.

If someone wants to lose “as quickly” as someone else,
maybe it behooves us to see how they did it. Was
their weight loss accomplished by methods we would
want to follow? Many people on this site have a
problem with very low calories and refuse. “

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October 2, 2007 at 3:40 pm

Kimmerexia

Funny that Tippytoes doesn’t refer to the pic as “Kimmer’s AFTER picture.”

No, it’s referred to as “the red dress picture” because even Jeannie Baitinger, Director of Public Relations for Kimkins doesn’t believe that it could possibly Kimmer’s AFTER picture.

October 2, 2007 at 4:31 pm

regandy

The cruise… SAFETY ISSUE? I don’t understand.

OH …. yeah…. must have SOME kind of answer even if it is “made up”. I guess some people just create answers and repeat them often enough that they begin to believe it themselves.

Just ANOTHER reason to get away from anything that has to do with that place.

If they will lie about one thing, they will lie about all things.

October 2, 2007 at 4:42 pm

anani

I am sick beyond words that Tippy would put the blame on the members for taking the diet to extremes. The extreme nature of this diet was carefully coached and taught by Kimmer herself. The following is a direct copy of Kimmer’s words to a newbie. I have the screen shot to back this up if it is ever needed.

Member asks Kimmer:
I’m new here – just started yesterday.

Which plan is designed for the fastest weight loss results?

I’m on KE and don’t have a problem with it. I was looking at Boot Camp and wondering is it’s designed for quicker weight loss results?

Thanks!!

Kimmer’s response:
The very fastest would be the Meal Replacement Shake option because there’s no chance of messing up. 450 calories a day, that’s it.

Second is Boot Camp because the protein and salads are limited, but someone could still pick a higher calorie protein by accident.

K/E was originally the fastest, but it’s not always anymore because some people tend to be creative about what a “lean” protein is plus overeating with too big portions or small snacks all day .

Kimkins is the slowest and still way faster than any other non-Kimkins plan except water fasting.

Another Member asks:
Hi Kimmer

You just posted a relpy that the Replacement Shake option is 450 caloris a day but when I look at the plan under KIMKINS Diet Plans it says 800 calories a day. Which is correct?

Kimmer’s response:
It would be 800 if you choose 200 calorie shakes and 4 per day. Personally, as long as I’m doing shakes (which are not incredibly exciting anyway), I’d find a 150 calorie version and limit to 3 (skipping a snack shake).

But I’m impatient.

October 2, 2007 at 5:03 pm

ixtapacheryl

“A clear conscience is usually the sign of a bad memory”

OMG more fund raisers? No cruise scheduled because of safety issues?

October 2, 2007 at 5:05 pm

Stiff

So, this morning Yahoo greeted me with these articles:

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19365/6-diets-to-avoid

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/joybauernutrition/19885/the-skinny-on-4-fad-diets;_ylt=AtuWsn6WiXWM8xqU5xWQeuka788F

Mmmmmmmm I smell Kimkins in those guidelines…

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October 2, 2007 at 5:26 pm

Stiff

“There are also talks of a fund raiser coming soon to benefit local low cost animal sterilization services.”

This really makes me laugh after Melt/Kimmer PM about animals. 🙂

October 2, 2007 at 6:16 pm

cando

I can’t believe this. Back in June when I posted on that site I was having “potty problems” I was told to try Exlax by several memebers and Kimmer. Becky Lil Bit came through with the suggestion of Smooth Move tea, which is herbal. I went with Becky’s suggestion and another one of two stalks of celery a day…that worked. ’cause I know that Exlax used on a regular basis can really mess you up big time.
But until people started complaining, they were promoting laxatives as a way of life. It seem to me that when I first joined, all people were eating on that site were eggwhites and Exlax. Back in my 20’s, I went on an Exlax, Dr. Pepper, M&M’s and cigerette diet for about a month, Lost tons of weight.
Man, I need to get me a web site and start sellin’ that. It was way more fun than egg whites and Exlax.

So, Tippy, your plan use to promote laxative use. Which attorney told you to stop?
And fundraisers? Man, that’s great. I guess getting $59.95 one time out of members isn’t good enough. “fund raisers” for the Pad My Pocket foundation. I’ll pass thank you.

October 2, 2007 at 6:36 pm

Antikimmerite

To top it all off SingingAss needs to learn to spell. Or edit. That was painful to read.

October 2, 2007 at 6:39 pm

finleysmom

This post made me so angry!! This was my reply on the site with my goodbye.

Too much controversy surrounding the red dress???? Are you kidding me??? Why not fix this then????? There should be NO controversy!!! FIX THIS by proving what is real! I don’t understand what the problem is. If the picture is Kimmer then PROVE IT! Why all the secrets, changes, drama, and lies??? WHY??? I have been around since the beginning on LCF. I was one of the first 20 members of Kimkins when all was hailed…”isn’t it nice to be on a site where you can speak freely and not have PM’s read and posts changed/deleted” WTF? This place is worse than LCF EVER was. What is wrong with you crazy people?? This is a nut house now. I can’t believe what has happened to this place. I feel so sad for the members who don’t understand that all of this change is a horrible sign. I am so sad it has come to this.

Goodbye all and good luck to finding what works for you!

October 2, 2007 at 6:43 pm

finleysmom

Oh, and yes I was banned for this post LOL!

October 2, 2007 at 9:06 pm

Princess Dieter

There is no limit to Tippy Toes’ reprehensible twisting of actual experiences and reality. Dang, that’s some shiny 30 pieces of silver there, Tips.

Controversy and the red dress? hahaha There would be no controversy if it was Kimmer, now would there be? The controversy is that it’s NOT.

And all that site scrubbing. Did you get all those Kimmer posts urging people to eat less, less, less and take laxatives? Did you?

And the members to blame? Boy. For someone who doesn’t follow the plan, you have some nerve judging those who DID in good faith.

You know, some people really do need to go down hard with the ship and captain…

So glad Christin and others are out there to put the lie to Tipper’s propaganda.

The Princess

October 2, 2007 at 9:52 pm

CR

“the red dress picture”

Why not say the “picture of Kimmer” LMAO…..

What a freakin JOKE!!!!

No cruise because there is food on it ROFLMAO…..

it just gets better everytime….the lies, the twists, the stupidity LOL

October 2, 2007 at 10:55 pm

moo

“We have decided that a cruise would present a safety hazzard for Kimkins members as well as staff”

WTF lol. Oh and would someone PLEASE buy TT a friggen dictionary (and teach her how to use it).

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October 3, 2007 at 7:36 am

Sue

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Becky Continues

27 09 2007

Just moments ago, Becky posted a continuation of Kimkins: The Perfect Storm.

Now, a look at the professional practices of Kimkins.

Kimmer first gave out her brand of diet advice (as well as hair care and skin care tips) for years on Low Carb Friends, which garnered both followers and foes. I am not sure when the idea of her own site first began in her mind, whether it was all a carefully-laid plan, or just an opportunity too good to pass up when it arose. Judging from her track record of not sticking very long with any one thing (whether it be school or work or a relationship), I would guess that it was the latter. My conjecture is that she joined the diet site in all sincerity, hoping to lose weight like anyone else. She probably learned some things and had some initial success, but then, being Kimmer, she just couldn’t help embellishing things a bit, highlighting her successes and ignoring her failings, amplifying it more and more, becoming more extreme over time, as it began to attract some attention. Gradually, the gap between her words and her actions widened, as she could not follow through with her knowledge and intentions, but could not allow herself to back down and admit it, either.

She may have done what many of us have done —- promised herself to get back on track tomorrow, next week, next month, try to be extra strict to make up for it, only to give in to her old ways again. Her real life wasn’t working for her at all — but online she could be the best possible version of herself, everything she every dreamed of, until perhaps she came to believe it herself. The attention and approbation were too addicting.

At some point, it seems, delusion reigned supreme, and there was no backing down. As her claims became more grandiose and her polarizing presence began to dominate and draw heat more and more at the LCF forum, another member, Catherine, approached her with the idea of an ebook and a website to sell it. (Read more here.) I think it was the brass ring, the golden goose, and Kimmer/Heidi grabbed at the opportunity for . Once that thought was there, I do believe Kimmer purposely aggravated her enemies and gathered her fans even more, setting the stage for her big exit. Soon, ‘Kimmer’ flounced off in a huff, and Kimkins.com was launched as a partnership between Heidi Diaz, supposed diet guru and Catherine McDonald, tech expert.

In the early days of the Kimkins website, Kimmer seemed to have it all — a successful diet plan, satisfied customers who were easy to please, low overhead, and a competent business partner who made her ideas work. Her departure from LCF calmed down hostilities quite a bit all around, and Kimmer was left to operate her own site in her own little corner of the internet with little interference. If she had made the right moves then, Heidi/Kimmer might possibly have been able to continue on course to a legitimate business success for quite some time to come. However, because Kimmer at her core is a fraud, it was inevitable that any enterprise built on that basis would soon begin to crumble.

Kimmer was not only a fraud in her own personal claims of large, rapid weight loss, but she soon began building the business of Kimkins around fraud at virtually every level — member service, marketing, and management.

~ Fraudulent Member Service: She lied to her members about the safety and efficacy of her diet plans, leading them to believe her plans were safely based on the recognized plans of doctors such as Dr. Atkins and Dr. Stillman, while continuing to push them ever farther away from the cautions and sensible limits of those plans. She assured members it was safe, because, after all, it had worked so well for her, or so she said. She also began to be less and less available to members, despite her promised member benefit of ‘personal coaching‘. She ignored or gave inadequate and misleading answers to valid member concerns. This was because she apparently preferred to spend her energies on marketing, to keep new paying customers coming in the front door while leaving the members mostly on their own to look out for one another.

~ Fraudulent Marketing: In her marketing campaign, she lied to prospective members by spamming Craigslist with fake listings to plug Kimkins, by posting phony ‘articles’ and answers and numerous blogs for Kimkins all over the internet under various names, by promoting Kimkins with false implied celebrity endorsements specifically to target teens, and primarily by posting numerous fraudulent ’success’ stories with ‘lifted’ and photoshopped ‘before’ and ‘after’ pictures. She also made numerous claims she had no proof of or right to make, in violation of FTC regulations.

~ Fraudulent Management: Heidi/Kimmer entered into partnership with Catherine originally under false pretenses, and continued to lie to her about many things, including the source of the ‘success stories‘. It also appears that Heidi skimmed a certain part of the gross proceeds from the partnership before profits were split, by funneling income to supposed affiliate accounts which actually led back to her. It is unclear whether proper legal or tax filings were ever made, though it does not appear they were.

In matters big and small, every bit of the Kimkins enterprise was fraught with deception. It was bound to catch up to her sooner or later.

Before too long, Catherine began to have concerns about Heidi’s integrity, and backed out of the partnership. At this point, Kimmer claims to have brought in 4 other partners to finance Catherine’s buyout, but this is highly doubtful. For one thing, one of the partners she claims to have brought in at that time is Heidi Diaz, but photographic and written evidence clearly shows that Kimmer herself is Heidi Diaz. (For example, Kimmer has always acknowledged that Catherine was her partner in the beginning, and Catherine signed the original partnership agreement with Heidi Diaz.) Other names mentioned as possible ‘partners’ include Dennis Sharp (her son), Vanessa Sharp and/or Romero (Vanessa Romero is her niece), Nicki or Nikki Sharp, and Tish Diaz. It is extremely unlikely that these relatives are actually working, decision-making partners as Kimmer leads people to believe. It is possible they put up some money so Heidi could buy out Catherine; it is possible she got money from them under some other pretext; it is very possible they know little or nothing, and she is just using their names to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise. Nicki and later Vanessa disappeared from the “Meet Your Team’ roster some time ago, so it is possible they were based on actual people who became aware of the use of their identities, and protested it.

I have seen various things supposedly ‘written’ by some of those names and now Brad Johnson. To me. they all have the same unmistakable writing style, and are all almost surely written by Heidi herself, who freely admits to writing frequently under various male and female names. No one has ever spoken or communicated with any of them, except through Kimmer, and she trotted out the same excuses over and over as to why they were not available. (Usually they were ‘called out of town to deal with a sick father’.) Kimmer herself often spoke to me of doing all affiliate payouts and answering affiliate questions, even though she supposedly had an affiliate manager. These ‘partners’ were probably a construct that Kimmer used to pass blame, as when criticizing someone (’the partners don’t think they are getting their money’s worth’) or floating unpopular ideas (’the partners are pressing to make the fees monthly vs. lifetime membership’, which she brought up to me several times), as well as to provide other ‘identities’ under which to hide income.

In fact, there is no good reason to assume that the entity of Kimkins is anything other than Heidi Diaz sitting at her computer pumping out fraudulent marketing and picking up funds from Paypal and the mailbox, with a tech guy or two working remotely and unaware of the real situation, and paid and unpaid admins and members doing the heavy lifting on the site.

The best of businesses, with a solid business plan and an experienced team of managers would have been hard pressed to absorb the massive explosion of growth that occurred with the Woman’s World magazine feature. Kimmer only had forum helpers with very little knowledge of the true nature of the business; after all, she could not afford to bring anyone into her confidence, because she had too many secrets to hide. So, Heidi was suddenly way out of her league. She was gleeful at the funds rolling in, and foolishly thought she could continue to get away with the same type of scamming indefinitely. She was even in contact with Star magazine for another feature. Who knows? Maybe she even thought she could lose the weight, go legit, and make it work. However, her newfound success soon began to cave in on her.

Once thousands of new members hit the site and began trying to understand and apply the diet, the pressure was too heavy and all the cracks in the foundation soon began to appear. Without the personal mentoring and reinterpretation of the diets that new members had received before, the flaws and gaps in Heidi’s business soon became very evident. Many of those coming in with fresh eyes clearly saw the disparity between what was promised and what was delivered. Many clearly saw the dangers of the diet plans, all of them. Of the 40,000 or more who joined, most never even tried the diet once they actually saw it, and many who did try it did not stick with it long. Meanwhile, all the massive attention the diet was receiving reignited the souldering controversy that she thought she had left behind at LCF. However, Heidi did have two things working in her favor: the misplaced support of people like me who encouraged new members to stick with it, and the absolute sheer desperation of overweight people who had almost given up hope. For my own blindness and supporting role in it, I am sick-to-my-stomach sorry, and beg forgiveness.

At this time, Heidi seemed manic with delight over the income rolling in, and eager to spin off new ventures – more magazine and media features, merchandise, and related enterprises like the nutrition business she offered me. She could hardly be bothered with member support or complaints, and brushed off all concerns as something irrelevant, hardly worthy of her attention, even as worrisome side effects and evidences of her dishonesty mounted. Thus, the round of emails I pressed on her, with the results that we admins began to leave and express our concerns and experiences.

Our exits and warnings further precipitated a rash of blockings and bannings, as other members took up the banner and began speaking out. The business of Kimkins is now woefully in breech of the terms of their agreement with their members, who paid for lifetime membership in a healthy and safe diet followed by a woman who lost 198 lbs in 11 months and maintained it, only to be booted without warning when they complained that the diet was unsafe and the owner’s story was a lie. Members have had ‘privileges’ like private messaging and blog links in their signatures revoked, have been flamed and harangued mercilessly for any hint of breaking ranks,and have been banned without warning, redress, or refund on the vaguest pretext of ‘violation of Terms of Service’, which, like the diet plans and disclaimers, are an ever-moving target, conveniently changed after the fact.

Kimmer had it all — a million dollar website, a great staff, great member loyalty, and great future prospects. And due to great greed, arrogance, and dishonesty she threw it away.

Kimmer is now behaving like a rat backed into a corner, biting and snarling, while looking for a way of to escape unscathed. She is starting to meltdown, trying to cover her tracks and salvage what she can, leaving more of the running of things in the hands of unqualified admins. Perhaps she still thinks she can pull it off, or perhaps she is making her exit plans. As she continues to overestimate herself and underestimate her opponents, she will find, once again, that she has made a grave mistake in waiting too long.

Kimmer is a dangerous fraud, and the business of Kimkins is a dangerous fraud.

Both need to be stopped, and the sooner, the better.

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September 27, 2007 at 7:50 pm

Mimi

A note about the timeline … correct me if I’m wrong, but from all the digging that’s been done, Kimkins.com was set up BEFORE Heidi left LCF.

She had found LCF fertile ground for cultivating a crop of victims, but couldn’t harvest them until (according to the CreditBoard) her bankruptcy and other liens had “timed off.”

In the meantime, she was getting the website ready. When the time-off date had passed, that’s when she left LCF and started charging money for memberships.

This is, to the best of my knowledge, the REAL timeline.

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September 27, 2007 at 8:10 pm

Becky/Littlebit

I believe that Kimkins.com as a domain name was registered in April. 2006, the big flail-up happened in late May or early June, with site launch very shortly after.

Catherine or Martin would know more.

September 27, 2007 at 8:21 pm

Mimi

Yes I’m confusing registration of the domain, with opening the board. What I mean is, basically, she was laying the groundwork for the board, preparing, and building up to her dramatic exit from LCF.

As one of the other commenters has stated elsewhere, Heidi isn’t mentally ill — she’s simply evil, and she knows exactly what she’s doing. She’s fully aware of her intentions and her actions, fully capable of outcome-based behaviors.

September 27, 2007 at 9:54 pm

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Becky (assuming you come back to this blog), after the WW article, was it ever *confirmed* that over 35,000 new members actually paid the life-time membership fee? Confirmed by anyone other than Kimmer, I should say. Did you have access to those types of figures, names and numbers?

I was a member there at the time and, yes, it was mind-boggling with the flood of new members, but close to 40,000? I’ve always had trouble believing that figure. If that’s really the case, the vast majority of them obviously didn’t stick around to post in the forums.

Don’t get me wrong. I don’t doubt YOU, Becky. But I can see how Kimmer would exaggerate the numbers just, as you said, “to seem like a larger and more legitimate enterprise.”

If the 40,000 figure is anywhere close to accurate … where are all these people? Those of us protesting here, at ALC, LCF, etc. are just the tip of the iceberg.

September 27, 2007 at 10:19 pm

Princess Dieter

It would be interesting to know when Kimmer-Heidi’s son turned legal age. Maybe THAT is what she was waiting for, since she put the site under his name. If the son turned 18 Spring of 2006, that would definitely put the motivation there…

(Can a 17 yeard old have a site registered under their name? I have no idea.)

And I totally believe she’d be going to LCF to gather her following before heading off.

The Princess

September 27, 2007 at 10:45 pm

antikimkins

Kimmer certainly doesn’t appear to be a millionaire, in fact, she still seems to have money problems. I wonder out of the thousands who joined after the WW article, how many requested refunds within that 24 hour block?

September 27, 2007 at 11:20 pm

Becky/Littlebit

Kimmer canceled the 24- hour refund policy prior to the magazine feature. She did give out some refunds from those who joined and cited kidney problems or other medical concerns, once they saw the diet, but very few.

I cannot prove those figures are accurate, but i would not be at all surprised if the membership numbers are not actually higher now.

I know how busy i was. I saw the posts rolling through there. At one time, I had access to member service emails, and she was getting literally thousands of emails a day. I was getting scores of PMs, as were many others. We had thousands online at a time, and hundreds posting intros and joining new challenges every day.

She also became suddenly very elated, and became much more willing to pay for help.

I imagine many signed up, looked at the diets, and left quickly, chalking it up to an expensive lesson learned. Most were not a typical online crowd. Quite a few lurked, but did not post. Many posted, but have dropped out now. Many have gotten banned, or cowed into silence. Still, they paid, and she kept the money.

She only took the membership and online numbers down when she began drawing too much fire from LCF, Slamboard, etc. I believe she wanted to reduce speculation into her gross profits once people started doing the math.

I have heard people say that they would look online and not see many people there back then. Perhaps they were not looking in the right places, because that was not at all the case then. The way the site was set up, the number reflected on a forum index page did not reflect the number actually viewing threads within that particular forum, but only the number of people looking at that index page at the time. You would have to open each thread to get a full count.

Only she knows for sure what her full intake was, but I have reason to believe it was quite high.

She told me she had only put back into the business what was absolutely necessary, and had the rest invested at a 10% rate of return. Who knows if that is true?

I do not believe she planned this out years in advance. I think she posted at LCF first for ego and power, and only later for money. I just don’t see her as someone who can sustain hard work for long without some kind of a payoff, but rather as an opportunist. I could be wrong. Time will tell.

September 28, 2007 at 2:04 am

Tam (Kimkins refugee)

Thank you, Becky, for that insight. I guess I’ve been hoping for lower numbers because that would mean fewer people were scammed, but it looks like she really was/is raking in the big bucks. Thanks again.

September 28, 2007 at 2:47 am

Dottie

Becky that’s very insightful. I also do not think that this giant “venture” was on her mind when she started out on LCF. Looking back on when she left, I really think she was planning on just getting $$ out of maybe a couple of dozen of her “fans” off LCF, then shutting the site down due to lack of funds (or hitting the members up for more $$ to “run” it).
I don’t really think she had any idea that it would take off in the big way that it did.

September 28, 2007 at 7:15 am

Princess Dieter

I totally believe there was a windfall from WW. That kind of coverage is sure to do that.

And I’m sure H/K knew to keep the money inflow quiet and the lifestyle discreet so as to keep all sorts off her back. Spending oodles would have drawn attention, I think. There is also the miser phenomenon where accumulating the money is the kick, not spending it. In fact, spending it reduces the pleasure of actually having a hoard.

Even if it’s half the reported 40K, that’s a lot of mookah going mostly to ONE woman who is hardly accountable. She got the Paypal and the checks. Why should she be truthful about how much when she’s not truthful about the rest?

And if she can offer Christian a car, then 100K for an Oprah brass ring, trust me, that means she had to have a nice, tidy reserve.

It would only have taken 10K members after WW to get 600K. And if that’s not reported or paid taxes on, that’s a nice chunk for any “disabled” person on government dole.

Didn’t someone say that the son bragged mom had a million in Paypal? (Can’t verify where that came from. Just remember reading it.)

The Princess

September 28, 2007 at 8:31 am

Sherrie

I think you’re right Becky.

September 30, 2007 at 8:12 pm

Peaches12

Why did all the admin. wait until the same time to quit. If you knew the diet was dangerous why did you continue to state otherwise, was it just the money that kept you going. I’m so confused, I continue to do Kimkins but with a higher fat intake since my body stalled and the increase intake helped it to lose quicker. How could so many been individual’s lifes have been put in jeopardy for merely a paycheck. Can you answer that, Becky?





Three Admins Step Up With Dangerous Advice

26 09 2007

What do you get when you combine one confused newbie and three Kimkins admins?

Dangerous advice that may be fatal.

New Kimkins Member
Subject: Frustrated I need help!!

Okie dokie…
well, I know this is my fault, but my weight is going wacky this week. I was 174 on monday and have gone up and down every day between there and 178?!? is this normal? I have usually only been weighing once a week, because when I first started I was going a little crazy with the scale.
Anyhow, I have been very naughty (mostly because I’m caught up in other things) and I’ve not been entering my food into fitday. Shame on me, I know. I HAVE to do this. I feel like it keeps me more honest. (But I dont’ cheat, just have a tendency to overdo with the “extras” like cheese & jello)

ALSO- I’ve been having massive muscle cramps in my legs? I drink at least 2literes of water a day… and I take vitamins, so I dunno what’s up? Do other people get this? My dis-approving family tells me it’s my “diet”

Last- I have been doing well on kimkins. Better than anything my whole life!! But I am constantly being berated by family members and friends that say the way I’m eating is not healthy and it’s too drastic and I’m just going to “get fat again” They even go to the lengths of cutting out magazine articles and printing out things to “prove” to me that what I’m doing is wrong and unhealthy. This is really starting to drag me down and I’m wondering if in fact that has something to do with my wacko weight?

Thanks so much!!

SingingLass (admin and self-professed psychic) replies:

Lots of things can cause little scale hops anywhere in a five pound range or so….water retention, undigested/ expelled food, water intake, TOM…ya name it. I try not to worry about it when I see it, because it always corrects itself out in a day or two, especially if it is water retention or TOM.

You may want to try taking an additional potassium supplement for the leg cramps….when someone non-low carb dieting gets them, it often is prescribed to eat bannas for the potassium. Of course, if it continues to happen, consult your doctor.

I think we all have gone through the ropes of those who are not fully educated on low carb eating etc…and remind yourself that you have done much more research on this then any of them have, and thus can better decide what is healthy for you and what is not. Sometimes other people who do not have the courage, strength, whatever…to dedicate themselves to this kind of WOE and change for their ownselves, try to make themselves feel better by pulling those back/ putting down others who are making that effort. I know that sounds bad, but it is something many people have reported unfortunate incidents of. Hold your chin up sweetie, only you can decide what is best for you.

Next at bat, TippyToes (admin) replies:

In general dieting shifts our water balances and can cause the leg cramping. I take a calcium/magnesium supplement and it does the trick.

Sorry you are yo-yoing for the moment. I must say the one food that causes this for me is the beloved cheese. Try a few days without it and see if it cures the problem.

And then it’s Kimmer’s turn (admin and Heidi Diaz) to reply too, dragging a former admin into it:

KimATC recommends calcium & magnesium supplements for leg cramps. You can read more in the Work Out Zone forum.

Of course the only person who can advise you medically is your doctor — and many people still think you “need” carbs — so why not fax your doctor a copy of the Kimkins diet and ask what he thinks? Many Kimkins members have gotten the “thumbs up” from their docs and are on their way to staving off (or controlling) diabetes.

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Note, none of the above admins are medical professionals or qualified to provide nutrition or supplement advice.

No warning was provided to this new member that potassium supplementation itself can be fatal if not done properly.

No one warned her that her leg cramps may be a warning sign of electrlyte imbalance, a potentially fatal condition if not resolved.





Kimkins Dangers Reachs Out…

17 09 2007

On Saturday, Kimkins Dangers reached out in a post to current staff, admins and members. It is an open letter worth repeating!

Dear Kimkins Staff, Forum Admins, Affiliates and Members,

Much has happened to Kimkins over the course of the last month, none of it good. Many loved and well respected members have fled the scene, Becky, Christin and Deni among them. All of them had their reasons and many of their reasons were the same. Please click on each name to read their own accounts of their time at Kimkins. Really. Read them. These are the stories of three women who had cheered for Kimmer and Kimkins for a long time. They had promoted the diet to their friends and others. They worked very closely with Kimmer to forge the foundations of the plan that you are now following and promoting to others. You need to understand why they left. They are not “haters”. They are not “jealous”. They are not Kimmer’s ex-business partner (and neither are we, fyi.). They truly believed in Kimkins and in Kimmer and you owe it to yourself to find out why they changed their minds.

In case you haven’t noticed, there has been a mass exodus of Kimkins members recently. Some of them voluntary, but many were banned for airing their opinions or asking questions that were uncomfortable for Kimmer. They are also not haters, nor are they jealous. They were paid, lifetime members that had concerns that Kimmer would not answer. They wanted to know, from Kimmer’s own words, if the bloggers and forum posts about Kimkins were true. They wanted to know if those pictures posted on slamboard really are of Kimmer now. They just wanted to know. Instead of answers, they were banned from accessing the site that they paid for. Why is that?

One of the new admins is now posting stories that this entire mess was begun by Catherine, Kimmer’s ex-business partner. We assure you that is not the case. We do not know Catherine, have never exchanged a single email with her or have had any contact with her at all. We know of her story, but that is it. We here at Kimkins Dangers are not jealous and we are not haters.

We are very worried about everyone that is on the Kimkins diet plans. We are worried about your health first and foremost, for even though you may not believe that the diet can be dangerous, there is ample information that says otherwise. Information that comes not from personal experience, though that is also available, but from medical studies, peer reviewed case histories and the like. Real, factual, honest evidence, not supposition and opinion.

We are also concerned for those Kimkins members, staff, admins and affiliates for the possible legal liability that they may soon face. The lawyer that is spearheading the class action lawsuit has now confirmed his involvement and has been sent reams of information and evidence pertaining to the Kimkins website, it’s owner and it’s staff.

We know that the California Office of the Foster Care Ombudsman is actively investigating the situation, specifically as it pertains to Heidi’s claims of foster children in her care and the subsequent fundraiser that ensued. The same member that began that fundraiser is now asking other members to partake in yet another fundraiser, though this time for diabetes, allegedly.

Other agencies, local, state and federal are likely to become involved in the near future. This again is not simply opinion, we state this as fact. We will not say anything more on this at this particular time to protect the parties involved and the work that is being done. But be assured, the work IS being done.

If you have been contemplating leaving the sinking ship that is Kimkins, now would be the time. We have read all of the excuses, the ones that say that it does not matter if Kimmer weighs 300 pounds or more, the ones that say it doesn’t matter if she’s lied about this, that or any other thing, the ones that insist the diet is safe and healthy, even the ones that say they aren’t doing the diet, but want to remain for the friendship and camaraderie of the forums. Whatever the reason, understand that the window of opportunity is closing and the time to leave is now.

It matters greatly that Kimmer weighs 300 pounds or more. She sold her plan based on her own claims of having lost 198 pounds in 11 months. This was not true. False claims have crippled companies much larger than Kimkins and they will bring Kimkins to it’s knees as well.

It matters greatly that Kimmer has lied about this, that and the other thing. The list of her lies is very long and growing every day. Integrity is something you should place a very high value on, not eschew in favor of a “quick fix” to your weight issue.

For those who are simply staying for the friendship and the forums, there are many other places you can go where you will be welcomed and supported, yes, even LCF. Active-LowCarber forums, Jimmy Moore’s forums, Amy/Curlygirl’s website, etc., etc. Please consider joining one of these communities as you will find many other ex-kimkins members there as well.

When Kimmer states that there is nothing more dangerous than being overweight, understand that this is not true. Read the stories of those who have suffered health problems as a result of following Kimmer’s diet plans here. Read the medical evidence that shows clearly why diets such as Kimkins are truly dangerous, not only in the short term, but also in the long term. You may not have any symptoms right now, but continue along that dangerous path, and you will very likely end up far worse off than you are now. Please do your research. Your health is not worth wasting simply to lose weight faster.

Many people say “but the diet works for me!” Well, of course it does, for awhile. Anyone that doesn’t eat more than 500-800 calories a day will lose weight, for awhile. They will see the scale dropping quickly, for awhile. They will slowly begin to see other problems cropping up. Hair loss, amenorrhea, dizziness, fainting, heart palpitations and other symptoms of malnutrition and dangerously rapid weight loss. Crack cocaine makes people lose weight quickly too, but you wouldn’t use that, would you?

Please, consider the information that is presented all over the web. Read the blogs. Read the forums. Do the research and discovered for yourself the truth that you so desperately need to know. Open your eyes and you will see.

Please do it now before it’s too late.

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September 17, 2007 at 6:30 pm

theTRUTH

Crack makes you lose weight quickly? Kimmer! What a great Idea! You can add a 6th option to Kimkins and make another boatload!

September 17, 2007 at 9:55 pm

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September 18, 2007 at 6:03 pm

OddManOut

Have there been any responses from the current staff? I don’t expect them to speak out since they’re taking the lead from the boss herself, but there’s always a chance that one of them will break radio silence (and probably get banned haha).





Getting to Know Tippy Toes

11 09 2007

One of the newest admins at Kimkins is Jeannie Baitinger, aka ‘Tippy Toes’ in the Kimkins forums and Low Carb Friends forums. For the purpose of keeping things simple here, we’ll refer to her as ‘Tippy’ throughout.

Tippy joined Low Carb Friends back in April 2004 when she started a low carbohydrate diet (Atkins) and weighed 263 pounds. Since that time she’s admittedly struggled to lose the weight desired and declared herself at goal on September 8, 2006 after losing 100 pounds. In the last year she’s maintained her weight between 150 and 155 pounds, alternating between Atkins and Kimkins. Why we make this an issue is that she recently wrote a positive 5 star review at the BBB for Kimkins, on September 7, 2007,

This is the BEST weight loss website I have been to yet! Thanks to Kimkins.com I have lost 112 lbs, have never been sick, got off blood pressure and cholesterol meds and I feel terrific! I have NEVER experienced anything but positive help from the site and I was NEVER told to use laxitives OR lower calories–ever.I cannot say enough good things about the website. I tried other weight loss plans and they did not work but that Kimkins sure did! And I have medical records and pictures to prove it. Just ask me for them.

Within the Low Carb Friends postings she’s made, it’s clear she did not follow Kimkins exclusively.
In fact, through her own posts at Low Carb Friends, we learn she lost 47 pounds following Atkins, stalled for six months, moved to South Beach, then Eat Fat Get Thin, then a Fruit Rotation regiment, then Kimkins, and then finally a rotation of Atkins and Kimkins.

Yet, in the above review she attributes her entire weight loss to Kimkins. This may well be because she was the featured weight loss success recently in the Kimkins newsletter (issue 20). In that feature she states she started with Atkins and then found Kimkins when her weight loss stalled, she was frustrated and “starving and felt terrible…I was desperate.” In that feature she also willingly states she alternates between Kimkins and Atkins. This fact is curious given Kimmer’s (Heidi Diaz) disdain for Atkins and its allowance for higher fat meats and dairy. When we review the situation, it is clearer why Kimmer is open to Tippy saying many of the things she does in her success story. Kimmer is losing staff left and right and needs to replace staffers fleeing her company and site. She knows one thing about Tippy, and that’s her long standing desire to be an Admin at Low Carb Friends, a position she is now more than willing to extend to Tippy now that she, Kimmer, is desperate.We recently learned that over the years Tippy has long desired a position of Admin at Low Carb Friends and has made this desire known to many close to her, including Kimmer prior to her departure from that forum.

Last year Tippy stirred up things on a weight loss challenge thread on Low Carb Friends by being very critical of the Low Carb Friends admins at the time. She made it known she believed she was qualified to be an Admin and when a position as one was not offered, she started passing along private information about the Low Carb Friends admins behind the scenes in emails and Private Messages in an attempt to turn them on each other. In those communications we are told she alluded to questionable behavior by the Low Carb Friends Admins at a pig roast in Tennessee she attended, allegations we will not detail here, but suffice to say included implications of inpropriety between Admins whom were not married to each other.

An attention junkie like Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) she spent months attempting to garner a position of Admin within Low Carb Friends to no avail, but her desire to be one continued.

As soon as Kimmer offered an Admin position to Tippy, she jumped at it and quickly told her friends, expressing her delight at the opportunity. We’re told she said she was thrilled by the “authority” Kimmer entrusted her with and also expressed a grand plan to completely revamp the Kimkins diet plans into something she believed would be healthier and much less objectionable to those concerned over the safety of the plans as currently written.

May we remind her she need only look as far as Becky to see such changes will not be tolerated by Kimmer. Read Becky’s Reasonable Appeal to make changes and Kimmer’s reply point by point.

What is more disturbing than her less than accurate BBB review however, is that she’s taken to doing Kimmer’s biding on Low Carb Friends. In a very recent post there, she laid the groundwork to instill doubts in the minds of those concerned about Kimkins and Kimmer by questioning not only the motivation of those engaging on the Facination thread, but also attempted to lay blame for the entire situation on one individual, former business partner Catherine (whose husband is releasing details of that partnership at Slamboard).

Her post, titled Are We Being Used, includes the following,

Just a thought. Notice the person who started this thread is a junior member (meaning newly registered) and does not continue to post? Notice so many junior members coming in now? It is easy to assume they are from Kimkins site BUT I wonder about the truth in that assumption for many reasons. One, I recall Catherine telling X LCF members how easily identity can change so they could come back without admins knowing it was them… Cutie–remember that? Two, I notice the junior members seem computer savvy enough to post info and pics I would not have a clue about myself… Now I am not saying every single junior member here is ficticious. But I think many may be. Tom, can you check out this possibility?Is it possible this whole thing has been created by the ex biz partner, who is clearly mad as heck? Also, keep in mind it is the same creator of slamboards and…perhaps Ducky? Oddly enough, Catherine admits it was her idea to start a website for Kimkins–not Kimmers. So I don’t think Kimmer spent countless hours here plotting but I think Catherine did. Also, Catherine just thought Kimkins was a wonderful plan and fully endorsed and followed it, according to her. Until the partnership disolved, that is. Now it can kill you…WTH?

And the Kimkins survivors blogs… Are they real? How do we know? And the 14 year old–was that real?
The threats to anyone who is a moderator for her site–threats of fraud and lawsuits… A bully tactic for sure to intimidate them into walking out. The claims of KimATC being 50 lbs over weight…How rude was that, asking her how that Kimkins diet was working out? In fact, that statement points that Kimkins doesn’t work and we have established it does. We all have weight problems which is why we diet. The pressure is on–but by whom? The reasons seem pretty obvious.

Don’t get me wrong. I KNOW there are some of those people here in a genuine manner. I know a couple of you from her site and I know you had concerns (even if you are ALL at goal now thanks to her diet). I do not agree with cutting calories further in the event of a stall either. But perhaps Kimmer was in the learning process herself and it was a bad decision, or mistake. And maybe Kimmer did gain weight back and won’t tell. Take a good look around this site. How many people have gained their weight back and refuse to remove the skinny avitor pics and change stats accordingly? I think many of us are guilty for that.

Are we all puppets on a string being manipulated by a raging X partner?

We know in the past Kimmer has taken to manipulating situations to motivate individuals to do things they might not do on their own. An example of such behaviour in the past is the January 2007 blog by Jimmy Moore, where he attacked Low Carb Friends and did so in a scathing and vicious manner. He’s since retracted that post, but our memory is long here and we’ve been told that Kimmer’s input was indeed the impetus for that post.

It’s interesting that many of the points Tippy brought to her post at Low Carb Friends are now the same points Kimmer is trying deperately to convince her members of within the Kimkins forums. It appears much of Tippy’s post contents were scripted by Kimmer. Tippy seems unaware of the manipulative instincts of Kimmer and may not realize how she too is now being used by her as a means to an end.We ask this, Tippy how could you associate yourself with Kimmer given all the facts now in the public view?

EDITED TO ADD
We’d like to remind readers that this is the same Tippy Toes who organized the fundraiser for Kimmer’s (Heidi Diaz) phantom foster children last summer. Tippy accepted the position of Admin after revelation of the fact Heidi Diaz has no foster children and has not had foster children in her care since at least 2000.





Bye-Bye KimATC

10 09 2007

After we provided some background details on one Kimkins staffer, KimATC, she quickly fled into the confines of the Kimkins website, leaving her friends at Low Carb Friends.

Guess what Kimmer (Heidi Diaz) will wake up to learn?

Today, in a move calculated to ensure some readers saw it before it is deleted, she posted her goodbye to members.

Bye-Bye KimATC!

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September 10, 2007 at 1:44 pm

kimatc

Okay enough is enough. I did NOT stop posting at LCF because of Kimmer – it never had ANYTHING to do with her. I stopped posting at LCF because someone I thought was a good friend posted personal and private information that was only shared in an email. An unknown blogger (I think you are “RightNow” at LCF right?) doesn’t have that kind of power.

September 10, 2007 at 1:45 pm

kimatc

and you will delete my name out of your search word list

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You were a legitimate employee of Kimkins, therefore a valid search term here as we profiled your position and relationship to the Kimkins website. Sorry, no can do!

September 10, 2007 at 3:29 pm

Concerned about kimkins

Kim I would assume since you are a “certified trainer” you would not condone a program that boasts the ability to lose mass amounts of weight with no exercise. That’s just my thought on it though. AND her name is HEIDI! But good job for leaving non the less.

September 10, 2007 at 3:55 pm

Chimp

KimATC is a victim!

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 3:59 pm

Kimkins Dangers

We are hearing that KimATC is in fact banned from the Kimkins website. Is this true?

September 10, 2007 at 4:12 pm

Chimp

I think so. It’s posted here.

http://www.lowcarbonostra.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41032

September 10, 2007 at 4:36 pm

flowerpower

According to the thread Chimp posted, KimATC is blaming me for information posted about her. If anyone knows why, I’d love to hear it. What did the author of this blog ever get from me? I don’t even know who this author is? I would have guessed Tooter, but it doesn’t matter.

My concern for KimATC all along was the fact that I believed Kimmer was taking advantage of her. I posted about that quite a few times on the fascination thread and elsewhere on LCF.

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We will clarify what we can. While we will not divulge our source, we can assure you our original information on the issue did not originate from Flowerpower or someone named Tooter.

September 10, 2007 at 4:46 pm

OddManOut

Ducky you said you’d remove it.

http://kimkinsexposed.wordpress.com/2007/08/24/getting-to-know-you-kimatc/

August 24th, 2007 at 3:35 pm

Maggie
Ducky, if KimATC disassociated with Kimkins and quit her staff position, would you remove this post about her?

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While she remains on staff and promoted as such, she remains part of the Kimkins team, thus this post shall remain. If she leaves Kimkins and is no longer on staff and is removed from the Kimkins team page, and no longer is providing advice within the Kimkins forums, then yes, this post shall be removed since she is no longer associated with Kimkins.

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That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.

September 10, 2007 at 5:17 pm

OddManOut

There was no time limit in your promise.

September 11, 2007 at 3:13 am

concerned

[i]That was two weeks ago. She’s a dollar short and a day late today. We did remove her children’s names when they were edited off the Kimkins site. We will not now remove her profile article because she took too long to act. Sorry.[/i]

Wow… I totally support your effort to stop Heidi/Kimmer/Kimkins, but it seems a bit vindictive to continue to publicly scrutinize KimATC by continuing to post her profile after she has resigned.

How does continuing to embarrass KimATC help the effort to stop Kimmer?

September 11, 2007 at 5:42 pm

WOW

Ducky, I was a staunch supporter of yours, but now I realize that you are a liar, you never gave Kim a time line, ever. You are a liar and no better then Kimmer. Learn to keep your word and do the right thing.

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How we feel about this situation: Her departure carried no remorse for association with Kimmer/Heidi and made no attempt to disassociate from Kimkins and Kimmer. She may regret her association with the site and the woman, but she has no clearly stated such in any of her posts on various forums since she left. As we said before, a day late and a dollar short.

That said, we also must point out something we were not aware of at the time when we made our statement. Due to KimATC being a paid staffer, we cannot expunge material which may be relevant in an investigation given what is now known. We would like to be able to keep our word, even though we do feel her actions do not warrant such, but cannot at this time due to legal implications. Destruction of evidence does carry penalty and we are not willing to destroy materials potentially relevant to an investigation. As we noted, we DID remove her children’s names from the original article posted.

Thank you for your understanding.

September 11, 2007 at 6:20 pm

KimATC

Hey cut Ducky some slack. I have shared a lot of private emails with Becky and Christin and others. A small amount on a public board. But the biggest thing I learned from Ducky is NOT to post anything personal on the web. You just never know who is reading it, copying it, and posting it elsewhere.

Just think of the irony of this, changing the “terms” afterwards sounds kind of like changing a TOS after one has already agreed to it. 🙂

I appreciate the above comments, I really do. But this is Ducky’s blog and he/she can do as he/she sees fit. So, let’s just move on please 🙂 I believe he has more current and relevant things to deal with.

September 11, 2007 at 6:23 pm

WOW

Ok, lets move on, cut some slack, your right! Ducky is simply a liar. Heidi is simply a liar. I think Kimmer feels she has more important things to do as well 🙂

September 11, 2007 at 8:07 pm

Disappointed

Ducky, since I have been searching for and have yet to find anything to contradict this as of today:

“Her departure carried no
remorse for association
with Kimmer/Heidi and
made no attempt to
disassociate from Kimkins
and Kimmer.
She may regret her association
with the site and the woman,
but she has no clearly stated
such in any of her posts on
various forums since she left.”

I agree that that is very disconcerting.

Perhaps it would be wise to avoid making any further promises that an entry will be removed if they leave, unless you are satisfied with them appearing to leave for that reason instead of conviction.